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i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
anyways im hearing the phone itself won't be in sprint stores and you cannot get it serviced at sprint either. you have to buy it online from google and send it in for repairs, is this true? if soo i smell a BIG fail coming. will the phone even be branded with a sprint logo at all?
Why is this posted in the HERO forum?
That sounds consistent with how the N1 has been sold so far, as far as I know.
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i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
anyways im hearing the phone itself won't be in sprint stores and you cannot get it serviced at sprint either. you have to buy it online from google and send it in for repairs, is this true? if soo i smell a BIG fail coming. will the phone even be branded with a sprint logo at all?
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Well that has been their trend so far with the other carriers, so it's very possible, but it's kind of to early to tell art this point
That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
fixxxer2008 said:
i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
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That would be great if you got an N1.
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That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
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Well, the problem is that since you bought it from google.com, when you have problems and call Sprint for help, they can say "You have to call Google."
Of course, Google doesn't seem to have any publicly available phone numbers for you to call, so you're stuck with their worthless message boards...
Plus, if the actual hardware craps out, you can't walk into a Sprint store and get it replaced the same afternoon, you have to deal with shipping in two directions and be without a phone for a week....
Or at least that seems to be the major complaint about the N1 currently on the market....
just wait for the evo 4g, its got better specs then the nexus and a bigger screen,
No, just wait even more, pre 2011, dual core Snapdragon 1.5ghz phones running android will be out. If you buy the Evo, you'll wish you had waited lol
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just wait for the evo 4g, its got better specs then the nexus and a bigger screen,
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i have no 4g here in michigan plus i don't like the design.
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That would be great if you got an N1.
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what does that mean? if it's about before please give it a rest already!
id like to keep this thread clean and on topic. i put this here because alot of users will be leaving the hero when the n1 & evo come out.
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That would be great if you got an N1.
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I LOLed in real life
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That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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No, just wait even more, pre 2011, dual core Snapdragon 1.5ghz phones running android will be out. If you buy the Evo, you'll wish you had waited lol
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if you pay 69.99+ with sprint, you can get the full upgrade every 365 days so by the time that all happens, you can get a DC snapdragon 1.5 right around the corner and still have an EVO
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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Sprint customers whine too damn much anyway.
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That would be great if you got an N1.
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Yes I would have to agree
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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Hang on to your hero then. I still have every phone in my sig as a backup. I'm glad that google is doing SOMETHING to shake up the status quo a bit. Remember if you buy phones that are sold and supported by sprint, you'll have to wait on sprint for things like android 2.1, just like we're doing now. If google is able to get sprint (and other us carriers) to budge from their traditional phone-tied-to-carrier model, it'll just put us one step closer to breaking the wireless phone oligopoly.
Many years ago, you had to buy your land line telephones from your land line provider. They were sold and supported there, and they had very high costs. Then over time, that changed and people bought phones that weren't branded by their carrier. (or supported by them either, omg!). I'm sure it was a very scary time, but think about how ridiculous that sounds today.
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yeah, yeah...well ill make sure when i get it i come back to bug you some more.
Fix, i have no idea what will happen when the N1 launches? Im torn between the N1 and the EVO.
My god people, let the past go. he has the right to start a thread. Just like children around here sometimes. It's getting old already.
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Hang on to your hero then. I still have every phone in my sig as a backup. I'm glad that google is doing SOMETHING to shake up the status quo a bit. Remember if you buy phones that are sold and supported by sprint, you'll have to wait on sprint for things like android 2.1, just like we're doing now. If google is able to get sprint (and other us carriers) to budge from their traditional phone-tied-to-carrier model, it'll just put us one step closer to breaking the wireless phone oligopoly.
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Ah, I am just flicking ya ****!
I am not real impressed with the way they have handled their phone either!
I do agree with this above, things like this tend to change the way company's think!
Roman
Hey guys, wondering which version of the tab is the best to get, eg: the one that has least trouble flashing and will work in most places.
Reason i ask is that a friend of mine is looking at getting one after playing with mine but he has just gone to the US for a couple weeks. Should he get a tab up there, or one when he comes back to Australia?
it would be a P1000T if he was to get one down here (same as mine)
Thanks
I would have gotten AT&T (my cell carrier), but I wanted to pay it off over several months, so I bought the Sprint version with my Best Buy CC. I do love that glossy white back surface.
Oh, and I'm using mine as Wi-Fi only, so I don't worry about paying a month carrier fee. Can always tether my phone if I need something and I'm not near a AP.
Sprint is getting much less dev love, but it is much newer.
Sprint better video? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10370530&postcount=11
More storage in non PCS ones.
I would rate the Sprint tab as dead last, *if* want you want to do is uncripple it and re-ROM it.
Sprint crippled the ability to pair and connect bluetooth keyboards and mice to it. Also, each day I check in vain for Clockwork Recovery love for the Sprint version, and no ROMs around as yet. :-(
Wait till he gets back to Australia as the voice app have been disabled on us models and would need some hacking whereas the aus one wouldn't as far as im aware!
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I would rate the Sprint tab as dead last, *if* want you want to do is uncripple it and re-ROM it.
Sprint crippled the ability to pair and connect bluetooth keyboards and mice to it. Also, each day I check in vain for Clockwork Recovery love for the Sprint version, and no ROMs around as yet. :-(
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Well it is the only one that lets you make ~free calls.
Ok thanks guys, ill tell him to hang on, and yeh the australian version has everything enabled
If you have not gotten a SGT yet and your in the US hold on and get Verizon's new Samsung Tablet with 1.2ghz and a 5mp upgrades.
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If you have not gotten a SGT yet and your in the US hold on and get Verizon's new Samsung Tablet with 1.2ghz and a 5mp upgrades.
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wow, really, that's such an apple thing to pull, i myself already have one, if that upgraded one doesn't get released in Australia ill be happy, if its anytime soon, ill be pretty mad
Okay, we DEFINITELY know that ATT (as expected), buzzkilled the SH*T out of the accessories for the Atrix. But, let's see possibilites of the future.
First off, I believe the phone can still be $149 if bought from CostCo/Bestbuy with the 2 year contract (hence, the proof of pictures and Amazon), and $199 through ATT. The accessory docks though... yeah, blew us out of the water.
Although, it's a tad bit early to say the least, to give up on these accessories (as for most people, the REAL deal killer is ATT's idiotic mindset that it is considered tethering your phone to an object that works only as good as my flashlight (laptop dock)). We have lots of brilliant minds waiting to get their hands on the dock (hopefully, if the pricing still wasn't enough to kill it), and there may be possible solutions for not having to get the tethering add-on price to it.
We all know many of us here already tether with our grandfather unlimited smartphone plan, what's the loss in trying it out with webtop.
Prerequisities:
We would have to find ways to buy the laptop dock not through ATT so they don't force change our precious current plans
Ideal:
We can use the laptop dock (regardless of price paid for the accessory) and we wouldn't have to be paying for the tethering add-on.
Possible Problems:
ATT and Motorola have figured out a way to "lock" laptop dock usage without the tethering plan. I've not the slightest clue as to how they will do it, but it's very possible.
Possible Solution:
Some devs find a way to bypass those requirements and we'd be able to use the dock scott-free. After that, we can treat it as how we treat how we tether our laptops.
So, we can look up to this, buy the Atrix for 149 or 199 JUST for now, and hope that in a couple of months there will be a solution to this madness. Hell, ATT may put it on sale because of low sell rate, or just competitive pricing, and by then some devs have figured out some ROMs that let us use the webtop app.
NOT ALL IS LOST YET GUYS..... WE DON'T NEED ATT!
Mark my words, bootloader will be locked far worse than on DroidX. They will encrypt the **** out of it.
This is the last straw, I'm spending my last days with AT&T and switching to VZW with MUCH better network, LTE, Xoom and Bionic.
I mean, it's still a bad ass phone by itself. I didn't plan on getting the docks either way, so I'll take my Atrix along with my unlimited data and have one of the best phones out there spec wise
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I mean, it's still a bad ass phone by itself. I didn't plan on getting the docks either way, so I'll take my Atrix along with my unlimited data and have one of the best phones out there spec wise
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My thoughts, exactly (well, I don't have an unlimited data plan, but it's still a bad ass phone, and its price is OK).
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My thoughts, exactly (well, I don't have an unlimited data plan, but it's still a bad ass phone, and its price is OK).
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It's still a really good phone. Basically a bionic with 1gb ram and finger scanner.
What happened to the 1gb ram thing is it actually 1 gb ram.
If not can some developers hack it so all the 1gb is used for android?
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you can be all pissed off at AT&T and be pessimistic about everything or you can take it for what it is.... a very powerful phone with a great display, lots of memory, lots of battery etc.
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Mark my words, bootloader will be locked far worse than on DroidX. They will encrypt the **** out of it. Xoom and Bionic.
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The Xoom and Bionic won't be locked down? Weird reasoning.
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you can be all pissed off at AT&T and be pessimistic about everything or you can take it for what it is.... a very powerful phone with a great display, lots of memory, lots of battery etc.
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And a useless, horribly expensive laptop dock. Tethering? Hell no.
I'm torn, man. Pissed at the situation, but torn on what to do.
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For me, the glimmer of hope is that the most powerful and impressive phone to date can be bought on contract for $150-$200.
I never had a use for either dock.
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And a useless, horribly expensive laptop dock. Tethering? Hell no.
I'm torn, man. Pissed at the situation, but torn on what to do.
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yep I agree, IF the dock is not around $150 it's too much BUT I would forget about it and just look at the phone by itself. If alone the phone is not enough then I say move on, meaning, wait for a better phone to hit in a month or so. To me the phone alone seems like a great phone...as long as it itself is not too expensive... Time will tell I guess for all of us.
It is easier to be positive in my neck of the woods though cause I don't think Bell will block sideloading and tethering etc..
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yep I agree, IF the dock is not around $150 it's too much BUT I would forget about it and just look at the phone by itself. If alone the phone is not enough then I say move on, meaning, wait for a better phone to hit in a month or so. To me the phone alone seems like a great phone...as long as it itself is not too expensive... Time will tell I guess for all of us.
It is easier to be positive in my neck of the woods though cause I don't think Bell will block sideloading and tethering etc..
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They didn't block sideloading for Samsung's Galaxy S. Can't see why they'd do it for the Atrix. And waiting for a better phone in Canada may take way more than a month The only other "big phone" announced is Telus' Desire HD! That's so 2010...
The reason the laptop dock will require tethering is because it uses a full desktop Firefox browser, hence you will be loading full desktop websites. If you were to use your standard dataplan, loading full desktop websites will immediately eat into your data usage.
My $.02.
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The reason the laptop dock will require tethering is because it uses a full desktop Firefox browser, hence you will be loading full desktop websites. If you were to use your standard dataplan, loading full desktop websites will immediately eat into your data usage.
My $.02.
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nope...don't buy it....if that was the case why doesn't the multimedia dock "need" tethering...because you can use the same full firefox browser on that....
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nope...don't buy it....if that was the case why doesn't the multimedia dock "need" tethering...because you can use the same full firefox browser on that....
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Yep, that's ATT counterproducing itself. It's stupidity at it's finest.
I can picture how ATT thought about the pricing:
"Oh hey, the internet is mostly excited about the laptop dock and we are getting such a huge fanbase on our Atrix... Let's jack up the price of the laptop dock and add the so-called tethering on it... that'll DEFINITELY kill their joy."
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For me, the glimmer of hope is that the most powerful and impressive phone to date can be bought on contract for $150-$200.
I never had a use for either dock.
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Yea, if you aren't interested in the laptop dock then the phone is still a legit deal; I really, really wanted it though and the fact that it requires a tethering plan eliminates the possibilty of me geting it.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
DarkDvr said:
Mark my words, bootloader will be locked far worse than on DroidX. They will encrypt the **** out of it.
This is the last straw, I'm spending my last days with AT&T and switching to VZW with MUCH better network, LTE, Xoom and Bionic.
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So efing true, But Im not going to CDMA, prob gonna wait for the Pyramid for TMOBILE
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They didn't block sideloading for Samsung's Galaxy S. Can't see why they'd do it for the Atrix.
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I realize you're talking about Bell here, but after talking to some folks with AT&T, I can confirm that sideloading is blocked on the Atrix, at least the AT&T version.
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I realize you're talking about Bell here, but after talking to some folks with AT&T, I can confirm that sideloading is blocked on the Atrix, at least the AT&T version.
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It was on my Captivate, too. Until I got home and fixed that.
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It was on my Captivate, too. Until I got home and fixed that.
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Yeah, it's easy to fix using Sideload Wonder Machine or Droid Explorer.
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nope...don't buy it....if that was the case why doesn't the multimedia dock "need" tethering...because you can use the same full firefox browser on that....
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I agree. I think the reasoning for the tethering requirement is quite simple: economics.
Look at it this way: If Motorola prices the dock at $500, and AT&T subsidizes the price down to $300 (if bought as a package), where will the $200 come from? Obviously it isn't in their interest to give away something for nothing, and AT&T obviously subsidizes devices in exchange for a contract. So I'm sure AT&T is figuring that the $200 discount should be made up for by paying for tethering.
The fact that Moto thinks the dock is worth $500 is still idiotic, however. The real dealbreaker of the tethering plan is the loss of unlimited data that's required for those of us that have it.
I would bet that the laptop dock drops in price pretty rapidly, especially since AT&T/Motorola are going to sell about four of them at that price.
This according to a story from ByteNow.
First off, Staples will be selling the XOOM. Interesting.
The article says that in an "internal sales training memo" to Staples employees, the much desired WiFi only flavor of Honeycomb goodness will hit the market at the end of March or early April. This goes along with what another member posted here on XDA earlier who heard from a contact at Costco that the WiFi XOOM will launch 30 days after the 3G version goes on sale. (A theory from that same thread is that they are delaying it until the 30 day Verizon and 14 day BBY return period is over. If you buy at Costco, you have 90 days to return.)
This means that other retailers are also getting "internal memos" with details Motorola has failed to deliver. So if you're an employee and have access to one, let's get some confirmation. Find a memo and sneak a pic of that puppy!
Exciting days are ahead!
I don't think Verizon offers 30 days on tablets... pretty sure its just 14
You're right. I forgot they changed their policy and shortened the return window.
I wonder why they're waiting so long to release it, then. They need to get the dang thing out so we can all go buy one already!
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You're right. I forgot they changed their policy and shortened the return window.
I wonder why they're waiting so long to release it, then. They need to get the dang thing out so we can all go buy one already!
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They want to get as many early adopters to shell out $800 as they can before they release the wifi only model. Also, I dont know how long they can wait and still introduce the wifi model at $600, because the 3g model will be on sale by mid April. Motorola is going to have to compete with a stampede of tablets being released around that time.
Yeah. It will be interesting to see how things play out. iPad 2 is supposed to be revealed March 2. If they follow last year's trend and price the comparable 32GB + WiFi Only Pad at $649, the XOOM will have already won at $600, but Toshiba might hit the mark at $500 with their version (Since they are also a hardware manufacturer, they have the luxury of selling a little cheaper). I was actually thinking about getting a Toshiba Honeycomb tab (the Antares?) until I found out the XOOM had an unlocked bootloader. That + all the features + vanilla Android = win.
I had planned on having a friend get me an employee discount at BBY, but I found out this Sunday that he doesn't work there anymore. I'll bet he still has friends there, though.
This would be awesome. I'm trying to hold off on buying one until after my exam block is over next week. I have no need for 3G, so waiting another 3-4 weeks after that wouldn't kill me if it lets me save $200!
Wifi Only
I was looking around on ebay today for accessories for the xoom and noticed that some are selling the wifi only version of xoom, so some places might have them sooner then we thought.
I found 1 listing that doesn't state it is a 3g model.
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I was looking around on ebay today for accessories for the xoom and noticed that some are selling the wifi only version of xoom, so some places might have them sooner then we thought.
I found 1 listing that doesn't state it is a 3g model.
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scam? tenchar
Prob so, but I did get a lil excited then thought about it and decided it cant be true. The prices there are crazy high.
Yea I am gonna get the 3g because...one...day.....I might need it. I always look ahead. I would love to save 200 but I am already with Verizon so if I ever needed service I could bump it onreal quick
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csseale said:
Yea I am gonna get the 3g because...one...day.....I might need it. I always look ahead. I would love to save 200 but I am already with Verizon so if I ever needed service I could bump it onreal quick
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Why don't you just tether?
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I'm wondering if tethering is possible (since it's ad-hoc). If not, I'm sure someone here on XDA will have tethering figured out before the end of the week.
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I'm wondering if tethering is possible (since it's ad-hoc). If not, I'm sure someone here on XDA will have tethering figured out before the end of the week.
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ad-hoc tethering probably won't work. Do you not have a device capable of a proper infrastructure connection?
I have a rooted OG Droid. The wireless tether app for root users does ad-hoc. I even have issues getting my PC to connect to it sometimes. I've found that Barnacle Tether for root users works better, but it's also ad-hoc, I believe.
the wifi tether app, if i remember correctly, got an update to support infrastructure. I cant verify any phone besides the one in their description which says the Evo is supported.
Guess I have been in the dark
I thought I was going to buy a WI-FI only model in the morning... smh
Nope. Those greedy bastards are making us wait.
So, I can't tether with my OG Droid? I wonder if there will be a patch available for the XOOM that will allow it. I don't mind carrying around a Mini USB cable for wired tethering since just about everywhere I go has WiFi. Would be nice just to turn on the WiFi tether app and keep my Droid in my pocket, though.
If I have to wait 30 more days I might as well get the LG Slate.. Same specs + 3d.. Better screen
Moto, you got screwed by Verizon on this release. I would have bought the WiFi only in a heart beat, but waiting till April? Yeah, good move. Wait till iPad 2 is announced next Monday and the world forgets about your Xoom...genius, just genius!
Verizone, good going, make sure to promote whoever negotiated that deal with Moto!
i got it confirmed by a product manager from Costco that the Xoom wifi is coming in March.
Hi guys!
Well just as the title says, im going ot be switching from T-mobile to Verizon, but i am torn between two phones. Either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus. I know there has been other threads on this im sure, but i had to post and ask just to get other feedback. All the other threads i have seen just go back and forth "get the rezound because of XYZ, get the GNex because of XYZ" So im a bit torn lol
Any feedback is much appreciated!
Merry Christmas!!
The nexus will come out on friday. (I know a guy who got the mgs from the big red)
If you want unlimited data then, look at this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370720&page=14
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The nexus will come out on friday. (I know a guy who got the mgs from the big red)
If you want unlimited data then, look at this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370720&page=14
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thanks for the reply.....i'm actually getting the phone through work with unlimited minutes, data and texting. Great thing is i get to choose my phone
Anyone else have any feed back or suggestions as to which phone to go with and why?
Buy a used phone on Amazon
Even though the new smartphones phones are cool, most have limited memory and poor audio quality. Another option is to just buy a Samsung Vibrant on Amazon. You can get one used for about $150 and you won't have any contract committments. Its a great phone and you can upgrade the ROM to ICS on the Vibrant forum.
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Even though the new smartphones phones are cool, most have limited memory and poor audio quality. Another option is to just buy a Samsung Vibrant on Amazon. You can get one used for about $150 and you won't have any contract committments. Its a great phone and you can upgrade the ROM to ICS on the Vibrant forum.
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i had a Vibrant, i liked it, but i would rather put the $150 to a newer faster phone. The samsung is for T-mobile, i am moving to Verizon through work and they are paying for the phone so no point in me dishing out money. Besides, t-mobile has been terrible the last 4 months. tons of dropped calls, phone wont ring when its right next to me....my current phone is a mytouch 4G, and its been replaced 4 times......then they offered me a crap Sidekick which even gets terrible reviews on their website. Then to top it off, I have overages because i used so many darn minutes to call people back everytime my call dropped, they wont even credit me for that. So basically they are giving me the FU, so im going to do the same Any who, i hope the GNex is a great phone, if not i may go with the rezound....i was hoping to wait till the Quad-core phones came out but unfortunately work needs me to get a phone so i need to settle with a dual core
Is there any way to get a discount onVerizon like Sprint 23%?
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Is there any way to get a discount onVerizon like Sprint 23%?
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I believe we get 25% off phone accessories and the rate plan.....i know it was a number in the 20's just cant remember 100%
Any other thoughts from people?
If your work is footing the bill, get the hottest, newest, most advanced phone Verizon has.
Galaxy nexus hands down.
i know people like HTC but beats audio is just a gimmick.
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The Galaxy nexus for the big red form the guy I know says they are having alot of hardware and software bugs. I don't know if I can say it's better than the razr I got to day, but try before you buy if you can.
ya i am hoping to try it out first but i have yet to get my hands on one. We shall see. I heard it was delayed again?
My friend says that all the over heating and software bugs is delaying it.
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I believe we get 25% off phone accessories and the rate plan.....i know it was a number in the 20's just cant remember 100%
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Is it done similar to the way it was done on sprint?