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Which is the best way to flash the Leo now?
Some chefs recommend flashing back to an original rom then to a custom.
Now we have a working HSPL, until now Bepe's custom RUU was used for flashing just the OS part (and this util is still part of the Rom's on here). Do we now no longer use this and use UDK's customRUU instead?
It just seems that when I flash one custom rom over another and one over that one etc etc, I always end up with strange rom results :-/
jonboyuk said:
It just seems that when I flash one custom rom over another and one over that one etc etc, I always end up with strange rom results :-/
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I would of thought that problems with ROMS are due more to them all being new and the chefs trying to iron out the bugs....I ended up going through most of the roms available on the site until I found one that worked for me.
The only time I install an official rom is if I have problems booting and am not able to get activesync working otherwise I just go straight over the top of whatever rom is on my device and then hard reset before booting up for the first time.
Awesome! Good advice, thank you!
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
chris_ah1 said:
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
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I believe that the micro sd card should be formated FAT32. Just remember that when you flash an offical ROM, it will also remove the HSPL so you will need to reinstall it.
chris_ah1 said:
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
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I only use SSPL, but I've got a Goldcard in case of problems.....just follow the guides and without the goldcard, it's a good idea to make sure that HSPL is installed so you've got a way to revert back if you have any problems. Hope that explains it a bit better
Yep, that's precisely what I thought. thanks for confirming it.
I understand that some regulars are getting irritated by general newbie questions but sometimes it is good just to confirm and understanding of how it all works before hosing a device and then asking stupid qs on how to fix rather than posting how great a new ROM is
sadly I'm a bit too lazy to do the goldcard thing. But I might get one done for safety.
chris_ah1 said:
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
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You do not need any sspl to install a cooked rom when you've hspl'ed your leo.
You can revert back to the original spl by using the sd card method with a stock rom.
chris_ah1 said:
Yep, that's precisely what I thought. thanks for confirming it.
I understand that some regulars are getting irritated by general newbie questions but sometimes it is good just to confirm and understanding of how it all works before hosing a device and then asking stupid qs on how to fix rather than posting how great a new ROM is
sadly I'm a bit too lazy to do the goldcard thing. But I might get one done for safety.
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too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
Svenvdmeer said:
too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
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Am i bad, just trying to help. Still all they were after was some reassurence they wouldn't brick there device and what i said was at worst long winded.
Didn't see anyone else rushing to help.
So are we supposed to use UDK's RUU utility to flash now?
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too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
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So no cooked ROM will over-write HSPL?
ah, good. I just saw some ROm page (i think Xannytech) which said use only SSPL.
I dunno - it's all a bit technical for a first timer. perhaps i should stick to official updates and CABs for now.
Hopefully someone can put down some clear methods/ways for the new people, as there seems to be a lot of conflicting ideas (or maybe i'm imagining it).
I just tried flashing stock 1.61 to my 1.48 Leo, (after installing HSPL, which seemed to install fine).
I done a bad flash though (for whatever reason) as the phone just went in to perpetual rebooting after the update utility completed. Just managed to get it started by reflashing 1.48 back on to it.
Well here is the issue Hskalay:
You are meant to be able to uninstall HSPL...but some say that flashing a stock rom does not uninstall it.
Some say that cooked roms include SPL.nbh and that it will overwrite HSPL. In fact some rom cookers have said in their posts to only use SSPL and not sd flashing via leoimg.nbh and HSPL. However others say that cooked ROMS do not (and should not) overwrite the HSPL.
From what I have gathered without clear consensus is that as long as HSPL is on the device, ANY rom can be installed from the sd card - cooked or official. Without HSPL you NEEDED goldcard. With HSPL you can still use goldcard but it isnt essential, as long as HSPL works and boots.
From what I have read, it appears that HSPL is a bootloader like GRUB or windows boot loader or LILO. The difference from SSPL is that HSPL gets written to the boot sector, and SSPL is a temporary fix as if you installed GRUB/LILO to your linux system partition and had the stock bootloader in the boot sector point to it to boot.
Goldcard: you dont need a working bootloader (Bepe's HSPL or stock), you dont need a working ROM.
HSPL: you need a working bootloader (i.e HSPL of course), you dont need a working ROM.
SSPL: you need working rom, and working bootloader.
If you ever over-write your Bepe HSPL you will need to put it back on. hence it is not a once only deal. However, it appears as said that it is not over-written.
Thanks for your reply Chris.
With HSPL - Do the rom HAVE to be installed via the SD card? Or can they be launch and installed from the PC (via USB). ie install HSPL to the phone, and then running the standard update program for say, 1.48 to 1.61 (which needed goldcard previously if I am correct).
Right just tested everything out this morning. Installed HSPL.
Can run installs either using CustomRUU or SSPLRUU tools either leaving the phone in active sync or in the boot loader menu by holding down Vol Down key.
To install new Radio ROM just use CustomRUU as this won't wipe your device
and just install the radio. There is a tread with all the Radio only roms here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Also wiped HSPL by installing original O2 ROM and this did clear the HSPL. To install original ROM, just copy the nbh to the device, rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and then reboot into the Bootloader and it will then reinstall the rom. Just to let you know I got some wiered error when doing this and it restarted the update and then completed. Hope this helps
It's been said that at the moment you shouldn't install custom ROMs by copying the nbh files to your memory card.
Update:
To reinstall HSPL again after flashing original ROM, I had to remove my memory card or it would not work.
I did a little searching around the forums but some of the answers posted to similar questions didn't really help, plus most of them were links to other threads.
Ok so heres my situation:
I recently upgraded to 2.13xxxxxx ROM from the T-Mobile HD2 website. Im having difficulty with the touch sensitivity and i have tried a cab file someone posted that tweaks the registry. I guess it worked but anyways. Since Flashing and tweaking i decided i want to revert back to the Stock 2.10xxxxx ROM that came with my phone. I plan on Flashing with custom roms in the future.
My question is simply, what do i need to do to flash my rom from 2.13xxxx back to 2.10xxxx with stock radio 2.8xxxxx. I have visited xmoo's thread with stock roms but im still unsure of what im doing since i just got this HD2 recently.
Heres some additional info,
Currently i run:
2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE ROM
ROM Date: 4/28/10 (Leaked?)
Radio version: 2.10.50.26
When i updated my ROM from 2.10 to 2.13 i use the USB Active Sync method suggested on the Tmobile download website. I didn't flash from the SD Card
EDIT: I went into Bootloader mode and what i see is this:
SPL-2.10.0000 8G XE
Does that mean anything?
I heard a lot of talk about doing something to ur HSPL and SPL or something, but i have absolutely no idea wtf people are talking about lol.
So if someone could give me the details as to how i can flash my rom back to stock, that would be helpful. And yes, i have read the tutorial about flashing your first GSM, still dont get it.
flash via SD card
I did the same thing and what you need to do is take this link and make a folder somewhere and right click on the winrar file and extract here to the folder you made and take the nbh file and rename this (LEOIMG.nbh) and place it on your sd card make sure its on the root of the sd card and not in a folder.Here are some instruction i used.Good Luck,ping33tx P.S remember that you will have to redo the spl and run the hspl again,once that's done your home free to flashing till you get tired of it,lol.
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device
[ROM][6 May 10][V2.0][23568][B 2.10.1][Kumar's TMOUS HD2][Available in 3 Flavors]
Premium Version 2.0 with HTC messaging:
http://www.4shared.com/file/CRF3NcXL...V20_S2356.html
Thats awfully confusing for a first timer like myself. lol
And your link is broken... xD\
EDIT:
I did some searching and found some threads where peoples custom roms are BASE 2.13. Can i just flash those roms on my current version if i don't downgrade to 2.10? Cause if theres custom roms that works with my current version then im more than ok using those.
since im here, im a little confused with why some custom roms say, 6.5.5 or 6.5.X. Does that mean i need windows mobile 6.5.5 to use those roms or does it mean something else?
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Ive seen some custom roms that have a number like 23475 (for example), is that the OS build needed to run the rom or the Custom rom's build?
My current build is: 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Thank you everyone for your help!
Lahnas said:
I did some searching and found some threads where peoples custom roms are BASE 2.13. Can i just flash those roms on my current version if i don't downgrade to 2.10? Cause if theres custom roms that works with my current version then im more than ok using those.
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no, you always need hspl for custom roms.
since im here, im a little confused with why some custom roms say, 6.5.5 or 6.5.X. Does that mean i need windows mobile 6.5.5 to use those roms or does it mean something else?
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that's the winmoversion used in the rom. 6.5.3 and 6.5.5 are updates to the current released winmo, 6.5
i think 6.5.3 is just about being shipped but .5 isn't official yet.
the big difference is the start button on the bottom of screen and slightly more finger friendly menus.
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Ive seen some custom roms that have a number like 23475 (for example), is that the OS build needed to run the rom or the Custom rom's build?
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that's the windows build used in the rom. 21xxx is 6.5 and i think 23xxx is 6.5.3, but there are more than three builds.
Almost the similar issue
I had a stock tmobile hd2. I never did any customizations to the phone or any kind of hard spl. Today I installed the tmobile official update that set my SPL to 2.10 making it incompatible with the hardspl tool.
I want to just flash a stock rom through the sd card, and revert the spl back to 2.08 so it can be compatible with the hardspl tool and then I can install the energyROM.
I downloaded the 2.01 stock rom from the rom thread in the leo forum, and right before I was going to rename the file and flash the SD card I read a post above saying that if I revert this back to a stock SPL version, and then try to run hardSPL, I will brick my phone. Is that true??
Suggestions??
mattjirmanos said:
Almost the similar issue
I had a stock tmobile hd2. I never did any customizations to the phone or any kind of hard spl. Today I installed the tmobile official update that set my SPL to 2.10 making it incompatible with the hardspl tool.
I want to just flash a stock rom through the sd card, and revert the spl back to 2.08 so it can be compatible with the hardspl tool and then I can install the energyROM.
I downloaded the 2.01 stock rom from the rom thread in the leo forum, and right before I was going to rename the file and flash the SD card I read a post above saying that if I revert this back to a stock SPL version, and then try to run hardSPL, I will brick my phone. Is that true??
Suggestions??
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flash 2.10.0 from sd card to reset spl to 2.08
You don't need to flash 2.10.0 from sd card to reset from 2.10 SPL to 2.08 SPL. You can flash 2.10.0 over activesync (using the .exe linked to in xmoo's thread) and the SPL will be reverted to the 2.08 version.
Thank you to everyone who posted and a special thank you to samsamuel for clearing things up. Maybe this thread will come in handy for people wondering the same thing.
Gonna move you over to General, also closing since issue has been resolved..
Peace,
Joshua
For the past week I've been on the fence as to whether or not I would keep my HD2, and for a couple of days I thought I was going to return it. I ended up finding the source of the problem I was having, and after really getting to understand the OS, I changed my mind.
I ran HardSPL and flashed to a couple of different ROMs, but after encountering similar issues with both cooked ROMs, I decided to flash to a stock ROM and try again. By this point, I was convinced I was going to return it, so I went ahead and flashed via microSD, uninstalling HSPL.
Now that I've decided to keep it, and figured out what was causing the problems, I would like to go back to one of the cooked ROMs (Dnik and Miri's.) I'm hesitant, because I read that reinstalling HSPL after flashing to stock SPL via microSD, I could brick my device. Is this true, or could I reinstall HSPL on my device, and start flashing ROM's again?
In the meantime, I'm making due with the stock ROM (with a bunch of tweaks installed,) and I'm cool with it, but I would much rather the one I was using before.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this!
Okay is there any reason why you went back to SPL using that method?
All you had to do is run the HSPL program and select part to SPL.
Now that you want to keep it the best thing I can tell you is to maybe go in as a warranty exchange so you don't risk it just make something up and since you have a normal SPL they should take it back.
I was actually thinking of doing that, but would rather not if I don't have to... you know?
I will keep it in mind, just in case.
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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I was thinking the same, but it specifically says this in the tutorial on flashing for newbs. It sounds logical that if I flashed to a stock ROM with a hackable SPL version, I should be able to reinstall HardSPL... but I'm not taking the chance without confirmation.
glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry
rlacsamana1989 said:
If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry
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So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the "how to flash via microSD" sticky at the top of this forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.
gilla409 said:
So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the sticky at the top of this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.
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Well according to your post you updated a stock rom higher than 2.01 but I do not know if that rom had an SPL2 because then it would over write your HSPL2. that initially what you need to find out to see if that stock rom had an SPL2 attached to it.
If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.
Bumping this to the top, can anyone sort this out? Today is the last day of my buyer's remorse period, so I need to know if I should exchange my device or not.
gilla409 said:
If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.
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You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.
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You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.
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That clears things up perfectly, THANK YOU!
I'm getting ready to flash back to 2.10 now, and reinstall Dnik & Miri's ROM... so stoked!
whick HSPL is best for my hd2!?!?! and which radio version!?!?
Can i install hspl without storage card!?!?!?thanks(and sorry for my silly questions....im noob )
Yes
How about details of your phone, ROM, Radio ROM, operator
HTC HD2 LEO
OS: 5.2.21869(21869.5.0.82)
MANILA: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM: 1.48.482.4(71294) ELL
IM NOT SURE IF ITS RADIO: 2.05.51.05_2
do you want these?!
i want to install them without Storage card.... because i havent!!! i ll buy one....!! can i install costum rom without card!?!?!
Since you haven't got the American T-Mobile version of the HD2, then you can play about with custom ROMs (make sure you first flash the radios the chefs select).
The American T-Mobile version is vulnerable to being bricked if the wrong radio or ROM installed.
Prior to doing any of this install the latest version of HSPL. This allows custom ROM and also enables you to be back to 'as shipped' condition if you have to return it under warranty.
Please read the excellent guide for flashing for noobies in the ROM section. Then importantly, read it thoroughly again.
(make sure you first flash the radios the chefs select) what do you mean with this?!
can i install hspl without SD Card yeah?!?!
can i install rom without sd card?!?!?!
ALL VIA WMDC!!!
and if i stop in hspl stage,the phone will work fine?!?!
because i read that if i want to install a costum rom i should have sd carfd....
(make sure you first flash the radios the chefs select) what do you mean with this?!
can i install hspl without SD Card yeah?!?!
can i install rom without sd card?!?!?!
ALL VIA WMDC!!!
and if i stop in hspl stage,the phone will work fine?!?!
because i read that if i want to install a costum rom i should have sd carfd....
yes you can do this without sd card.
konvict550 said:
(make sure you first flash the radios the chefs select) what do you mean with this?!
can i install hspl without SD Card yeah?!?!
can i install rom without sd card?!?!?!
ALL VIA WMDC!!!
and if i stop in hspl stage,the phone will work fine?!?!
because i read that if i want to install a custom rom i should have sd carfd....
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You don't need a microSD card to flash, as it can be done via the pc (activesync on XP and WMDC on Vista and 7). The SD Card method should only be used if you have serious problems and cannot connect to the pc.
You can just hspl your phone and it will still work the same as it did.
You can then flash either a HTC (unbranded) ROM v1.66 or you can go for one of the custom ROMs.
The HTC ROM includes the main ROM and the Radio ROM. If you use this one, then you can flash a newer Radio ROM after.
If you want to flash a Custom ROM then the people who create them will have tested them with specific Radio ROMs to make sure that they run well. SO if you want to flash a custom ROM, then after hslp-ing the phone you have to flash the Radio ROM they suggest. Once this is done then flash the custom ROM.
i ll install hspl3... but in this step (*You can select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL) which one?!!?
2.08HSLP. This allows you the option to install custom ROMs (although you don't need to install a custom ROM).
SPL2.08 only allows mobile operator ROMs and HTC ROMs.
I have installed 1.42 HSLP (because HSLP 1 was all that was available at the time) and installed HTC 1.66WWE (World Wide English). The reception wasn't that great so I flashed 2.10.50.08.2.
I would flash a custom ROM, but the standard HTC one works fine for me.
i read on some topics that hspl doesn't go well with stock roms 3.14 for example there is a 50mb program memory limit (is it ram or storage limit?), i wanted to get more advice on the matter because i read many opposite info about hspl on the forum, is it safe to use hspl3 to flash 3.14 stock roms? in particular this rom: RUU_Leo_S_HKCSL_WWE_3.14.831.3_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship this was released in december
What a coincidence, I was about to ask the same question, although I'm only using HSPL2.
So, is it ok to install a 3.14 stock ROM with HSPL2/3 still installed? Or do we have to flash back the original SPL first?
Remove HSPL, then if allowed you can install 3.14 ROM. If you are not allowed this ROM, then you need to use the GoldCard method, then install the 3.14 ROM.
Installing 3.14 ROM when HSPL is installed will make you phone prone to be unstable and have have a major reduction in RAM - So don't do it.
Ok thanks for the info fred_up. One other question, after I put the original SPL back, can I flash stock 3.14 over the USB cable? I did that with 1.43 -> 1.66, so I', assuming I can still do that?
ram loss is possible with hspl3 flashing rom 3.14! i had more free ram on my x1
can anyone confirm if the only solutions are the goldcard or flashing the rom for which your device is made??
AinsCrowbar said:
Ok thanks for the info fred_up. One other question, after I put the original SPL back, can I flash stock 3.14 over the USB cable? I did that with 1.43 -> 1.66, so I', assuming I can still do that?
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If you downloaded the 3.14 ROM from HTC with your phone's serial number, then HTC are saying that you are entitled to upgrade to that ROM.
solai said:
ram loss is possible with hspl3 flashing rom 3.14! i had more free ram on my x1
can anyone confirm if the only solutions are the goldcard or flashing the rom for which your device is made??
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At this moment, if you are not entitled to flash the 3.14 ROM, then the only option is to GoldCard before flashing the 3.14 ROM - remembering to remove HSPL first. Your other options are to run the latest ROM from your Operator or run a custom ROM that isn't based upon the 3.14 ROM.
Is it OK to install a stock 3.14 ROM optop of HSPL via SDCard? Won't this erase HSPL?
can you confirm that using a goldcard automatically erases hspl? i think yes
novaci said:
Is it OK to install a stock 3.14 ROM optop of HSPL via SDCard? Won't this erase HSPL?
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yes it will erase hspl but becareful because if the rom is not the correct one for your device it will still fail to install BUT hspl will have allowed the spl to update to 3.03.0000 andyou will get exclamation mark screen and phone won't boot. in this case you will only get it working again by flashing an older correct stock rom.
solai said:
can you confirm that using a goldcard automatically erases hspl? i think yes
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yes, because the spl is updated to 3.03.0000 and
it can only do that by overwriting the spl, and hence hspl is gone.
use sspl
sspl is only any use if you already have a working 3.14 rom on your phone with spl 3.03.0000.
you cant run 3.14 on any other spl, not just hspl, so whilst SSPL would flash the 3.14 rom (for example from a current 1.66 rom) it would still have the memory issue because the spl would return to 1.66.0000 after the first restart, and the memory glitch would be there.
samsamuel said:
yes it will erase hspl but becareful because if the rom is not the correct one for your device it will still fail to install BUT hspl will have allowed the spl to update to 3.03.0000 andyou will get exclamation mark screen and phone won't boot. in this case you will only get it working again by flashing an older correct stock rom.
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I downloaded the ROM straight off HTC's site with my own s/n so it worked out OK. I'm just taking the phone out for warranty repairs and I wanted to make sure I'm getting the correct SPL when I install the latest official ROM on the phone. Thanks!