Android 2.3 provides 2 methods to open the camera (link):
1) open()
2) open(cameraId)
Method 2) is new to Android 2.3, but not many apps use it yet. Method 1) is provided in Android 2.2, which many video chats app uses. Unfortunately, it is hardcoded to access the rear camera:
public static Camera open() {
int numberOfCameras = getNumberOfCameras();
CameraInfo cameraInfo = new CameraInfo();
for (int i = 0; i < numberOfCameras; i++) {
getCameraInfo(i, cameraInfo);
if (cameraInfo.facing == CameraInfo.CAMERA_FACING_BACK) {
return new Camera(i);
}
}
return null;
}
I would like change this logic so that it read in the camera index from some file, e.g. defaultCamera.txt, so the user can change the default cam any time without recompiling.
For someone who has compiled Android before, it would be easy to make this mod. Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to do it.
Any takers out there?
Can't you just use Fring?
James_Caliber said:
Can't you just use Fring?
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If Fring works on 2.3, then I'd say it's one of a very few apps that are using the 2) method above. However, most other apps are still using the 1) method.
One of them is Adobe AIR 2.5.1, which my ReelPortal app depends on. So while waiting for Adobe to update it's AIR runtime to use the new 2) method, I figured it may be possible to change the underlying Android 2.3 to works with older software by modifying method 1).
You are probably wondering why don't I just abandon AIR. It'd be a lot of rework that I can't afford to do, and more importantly, AIR allows my software to run on multiple platforms. Currently my app runs on PCs, Android, and Blackberry Playbook (simulator). But I anticipate it to work on WebOS when that's out. And potentially iPhone/iPad as well if/when Adobe and Apple play nice w/ each other.
James_Caliber said:
Can't you just use Fring?
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Haven't used Fring but Tango uses the front camera. And exceptionally well even on 3G.
reelportal said:
Android 2.3 provides 2 methods to open the camera (link):
1) open()
2) open(cameraId)
Method 2) is new to Android 2.3, but not many apps use it yet. Method 1) is provided in Android 2.2, which many video chats app uses. Unfortunately, it is hardcoded to access the rear camera:
public static Camera open() {
int numberOfCameras = getNumberOfCameras();
CameraInfo cameraInfo = new CameraInfo();
for (int i = 0; i < numberOfCameras; i++) {
getCameraInfo(i, cameraInfo);
if (cameraInfo.facing == CameraInfo.CAMERA_FACING_BACK) {
return new Camera(i);
}
}
return null;
}
I would like change this logic so that it read in the camera index from some file, e.g. defaultCamera.txt, so the user can change the default cam any time without recompiling.
For someone who has compiled Android before, it would be easy to make this mod. Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to do it.
Any takers out there?
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This would probably be very easy to do. I'll take a look at it
im sure i can speak for everybody when i say we would rather use skype. the update needs to come quick.
charlieb620 said:
im sure i can speak for everybody when i say we would rather use skype. the update needs to come quick.
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I wouldn't say "everybody", but I'd agree most people would use what they are used to. My software is designed to be more flexible for unconventional use.
For example, when both front and back cameras are fully supported by the underlying layers (AIR or Android), it would be possible to stream from both cameras simultaneously. So you can place the phone on a table for a video conference call, and the other side will see everyone at the front and back. I'm just thinking out loud here, as I hadn't actually done it with any phone yet.
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im sure i can speak for everybody when i say we would rather use skype. the update needs to come quick.
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Thats not necessary man. reelportal is trying to develop an alternative that has other uses as well and telling him that others do it better is just rude.
reelportal said:
I wouldn't say "everybody", but I'd agree most people would use what they are used to. My software is designed to be more flexible for unconventional use.
For example, when both front and back cameras are fully supported by the underlying layers (AIR or Android), it would be possible to stream from both cameras simultaneously. So you can place the phone on a table for a video conference call, and the other side will see everyone at the front and back. I'm just thinking out loud here, as I hadn't actually done it with any phone yet.
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Keep up the work man, some fools man not see the point in trying to do what hasn't been done but I appreciate your effort.
kenvan19 said:
Thats not necessary man. reelportal is trying to develop an alternative that has other uses as well and telling him that others do it better is just rude.
Keep up the work man, some fools man not see the point in trying to do what hasn't been done but I appreciate your effort.
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Thanks for the support. Sometimes it's hard to get new ideas across to everyone. ReelPortal as it is right now is just a foundation for the stuff that I want to add on later, so there's a lot of work ahead for me.
I'm not saying what he is doing is irrelevant I'm talking about the availible video chat apps that our phone can use. I was not being rude. I'm speaking for people that would like to use other choices besides tango because android didn't develop much for our phones
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I support you as well that's why I better clarified what I said. i would like to see this as well
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I'm not saying what he is doing is irrelevant I'm talking about the availible video chat apps that our phone can use. I was not being rude. I'm speaking for people that would like to use other choices besides tango because android didn't develop much for our phones
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You came across as rude because the original post has nothing to do with other video chat apps. He was asking a programming question and you replied with 'use fring'
It's like if I asked about building an engine for a car I'm making and someone replies back 'take a bus'
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i THINK Qik now supports SNS video calls. The update says 'support for Dell Streak' but it doesnt crush on my SNS anymore....
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i THINK Qik now supports SNS video calls. The update says 'support for Dell Streak' but it doesnt crush on my SNS anymore....
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I confirm this!
For the record, I just discovered Reelportal, and anyone who hasn't tried it simply doesn't understand how amazing it is or why we totally need this in addition to Skype video.
You can't compare it to Skype, its not the same thing at all. Skype is an account-based system where you log in and find users. This is more like an impromptu video chat room that supports up to 5 people simultaneously.
Skype does support multiple people (not sure if the new Skype 2.0 does for mobile yet), but only if you are willing to pay for it. Oovoo supports 3 people free, but you have to find people who are signed up for and installed Oovoo.
Here's the thing with Reelportal: IT RUNS IN A FREAKING BROWSER WINDOW!
That means you could tell everyone and anyone to join in your video chat from any computer (browser with flash required, that's it!), sort of like a video party line. You can keep your room private by putting a password on it as well, or even host your own server if you don't want to keep it publicly available.
I'm imagining the uses now- a group meeting with coworkers across the world, just tell them a time and what room name to log in and meet you. Or if I'm giving my 1 year old her first ice cream cone and want my whole family from multiple locations to log in and join us live.
I think this is totally brilliant and I'm beside myself at the short sightedness of folks who quickly dismissed this as just another Skype, Fring, Yahoo IM, Qik, etc. Those apps are all awesome, but this is something different.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure I understand the problem with accessing the front camera. I thought the new camera API was supposed to make this simpler for developers?
Is the problem that setting it for the front camera breaks support for older devices that rely on the old routine (G-tablet, etc)?
Why not offer two versions of the app- one for Gingerbread, and one for legacy?
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I know people might not answer this, but what the hell, you never know.
I'm a programmer; good old fashioned programmer. That's what I do. I've coded in Assembler, PASCAL, RPG II/III, COBOL, C/C++, SQR (a DB language), Easytreive (mainframe), CICS (more mainframe), JCL (mainframe "language"), JAVA and now Android.
Currently unemployed due to crappy market and my location. I've coded a couple of apps and they are on the market selling, albeit slowly.
My problem is, I'm NOT creative LOL IMO, I can code the pants off anything, but I'm just not good at coming up with ideas. I think it's that "left brain, right brain" thing!
Anyone care to throw out some app ideas? Seems like I think of stuff, but it's "been there, done that" on the market. I have my own hosted site and ability to store 10 gigs of database data if that helps.
I'm not interested in doing games or themes or wallpapers (remember, NOT creative!) LOL
I'm new at coding and I have ideas coming out of my ears, so to speak, but I don't have the means (knowledge) to make them a reality. How familiar are you with the android sdk and APIs? I'm kinda new at this, having only released one app into the market. I would like the help of an experienced coder. Check out my website www.fufurinnovations.blogspot.com to see what I'm working on. Thanks in advance
I am looking for an app like Mail Tones for Blackberry that alerts you with a different tones for selected email contacts. By default the notification tone for all incoming emails is just one for all. I tried Mail Alerts but it is very unreliable. Maybe you like this idea? This is a very helpful app in BB since it lets you know when an important email comes up without looking at the screen. Weird that there is only one app in the Market and it just doesn't work.
And what about another app like a camera add-on that lets you level all your pictures using the inclinometer and allows you to take pictures having always the horizon line leveled.
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And what about another app like a camera add-on that lets you level all your pictures using the inclinometer and allows you to take pictures having always the horizon line leveled.
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Love this simple but effective idea!
posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
I need, and many android users will agree, that sms messages do not need to be kept forever. I want an app, an addon, an alteration whatever that deletes old messages up to a set time period... 7 days, 14 days, 31 days etc.
If I had a text from o2 highlighting the fab new offers I ignore it and 30 days later its automatically deleted!
posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
I'd love an app that emulates the standard iPod USB protocols well enough to control my Android music player from my car stereo.
Theres a lot of people in a thread in this forum wanting a gtalk widget for android....and willing to pay for it.
Enhanced camera
KelvinMead said:
Love this simple but effective idea!
posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
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I actually thought that the app called Theodolite was going to do this but it was actually a triangulation app. In any case, it comes with an inclinometer that allows you to measure the angle of the camera in x and y. It has a measurement of angles kind of like the vision from Terminator, very cool, but then if you take the picture, those measuring things stay in the picture and the picture itself comes out at a lower resolution so it is not really a photography app, its a measurement app. It could be cool to have a bip once you get the camera/phone leveled with the horizon line.
Cameras nowadays don't come with this feature? You can then sell them the program...
you can help me out with my music app im only decent at concepts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10692674
How about an app that is able to identify if someone in the area is running android and to be able to strike up a gtalk convo via invite. idk if that'd be possible.
WOW! Thanks to all the repliers (is that a word? LOL). Oh my, there's an idea right there for my database space...a dictionary or thesarus!
Some very, very good ideas out there and I DO appreciate them very much. I can definitely see 2 or 3 apps that I can start working on.
Keep the ideas coming and I'll get my fingers going on development of some of the replies up to this point.
Thanks again!
Figure out bluetooth hid in sense roms or video out for aosp roms.
Hello,
An application that encrypt/decrypt phone conversations in real time between two android phones could be nice...
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One app i really think is missing is a good working RSS-reader which makes it possible not to juggle between the RSS-reader and a browser.
An example would be a super simple reader like Google Reader that can open up the posts in background inside the reader, having the same possibilities as a browser.
I am tired of HTC sync not working right with custom roms. I need something (app or software) that will sync my pc Outlook contacts and calendar with android phone. There is a need for business people that want to use their android phone for business! IMHO
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I don´t know if exist an app that can do what I want...so...here it is the idea:
It´s an app that can change the apps icons in the drawer...like the one we use to change icons in desktop....but....for the drawer...
Or maybe a widget for app launcher...I know there ir a lot of it....but make one like the objetdock for windows...if you know what I mean...
Cheers! and thank...
i have many great ideas, but im not a programmer...my only problem with you is that you seem to want people to GIVE you their ideas...like recently, i had someone develop a clock widget for me in which i provided the graphics...we are splitting the profits 50-50...so maybe if you could make an agreement like that or a 60(you)-40(me) agreement then i might be able to help you out...and you could help me
schwartzman93 said:
i have many great ideas, but im not a programmer...my only problem with you is that you seem to want people to GIVE you their ideas...like recently, i had someone develop a clock widget for me in which i provided the graphics...we are splitting the profits 50-50...so maybe if you could make an agreement like that or a 60(you)-40(me) agreement then i might be able to help you out...and you could help me
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Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that ...my bad.
Of course I would be willing to split profits on a joint-effort project. And, I'm terrible with graphics design and the like. And sometimes, the user interface can make or break the applications (people like "Wow, cool" or flashy app interfaces).
I'm more of a "meat and potatoes" guy; input your data, get info back LOL
So yes, I'm willing to pursue a multi-person project as I think it's beneficial to both parties, not only monetarily, but the possibility of learning from each other.
Thanks,
Roots
Im sorry, i didnt mean to come off rude, lol...and im good with photoshop and UI ideas...i have no degree in anything just to let you know, im a self taught 17 year old, who like i said has no programming skills just ideas...i will get back to you though...im currently working on trying to update this other app i have
Skype is long overdue for Android. There was supposed to be support on the Xoom tablet, but reports show yesterday that they withdrawed their business/services for the tablet and future laptop/devices .Its word going around that now they will continue to work on a better agreement to bring video chat to the platform. I looked online and alot of Androidians (lol) arent too happy with this. Everyone is wondering was there a Apple pay-off and what is taking so long. Will Skype video chat/3g calls every come to us?
Don't know why Google didn't write their own freaking application for it. I video call through gmail on my laptop fine, seems like the logical step to integrate their phones and tablets into that.
Seriously if Google isn't going to step up and write some BASIC polished apps for their own platform rather than having devices being released half-baked, apple is going to continue to dominate the tablet market.
dinan said:
Don't know why Google didn't write their own freaking application for it. I video call through gmail on my laptop fine, seems like the logical step to integrate their phones and tablets into that.
Seriously if Google isn't going to step up and write some BASIC polished apps for their own platform rather than having devices being released half-baked, apple is going to continue to dominate the tablet market.
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I think its ridiculous. Its taking way too long.
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Unless things like this change, I won't be using the Android platform in the future. One of my top priorities/needs is great app support. If you don't have that, all this new hardware is useless IMO.
meetagrawal said:
Unless things like this change, I won't be using the Android platform in the future. One of my top priorities/needs is great app support. If you don't have that, all this new hardware is useless IMO.
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i can agree with that. i was happy to get a front facing camera but i have yet to use it. so whats the point. i could have kept my g2 around.
Well Google released video chat on the Xoom via google chat so hopefully it wont be long until they integrate it into phones
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Well Google released video chat on the Xoom via google chat so hopefully it wont be long until they integrate it into phones
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hopefully it may come
It's not just Android, if you check the last update for the Linux client, don't be surprised how long ago that was (January 20, 2010; 13 months ago from Wikipedia).
I've already completely lost faith in Skype, I don't trust them anymore.
ehm??? no 3G calling?
what have i been doing the last few day's?
you can call with 3G.wel atleast i can.
Using skype over 3g service and video calls. And no you haven't been doing it
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I don't think that Skype has any intention of releasing a free Android app. They seem to only be interested in installing video-enabled Skype on devices sold by manufacturers/carriers that will pay them directly. e.g. Verizon or Nokia.
Of course, the strange part of all this is that Skype w/video is available for iPhone 4.
Oh well, if Google releases video chat before skype does, then my skype account, along with the rest of my family's, will be gone.
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
Carne_Asada_Fries said:
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
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i have been questioning this as well. why it didnt happen yet.
unless :
- there is no phone that is out right now and has skype video call in it
OR
- even if they managed to do so, it wont connect to skype network so it was useless " something to do with skype knowing your phone before it connect to the server, and if the phone is not registered in their database, it wont connect.
There's always Fring;
http://www.fring.com/android/
That said, as a Skype subscription holder it'd be nice to have video supported.
Think about the legal ramifications. Google talk is praticially installed on every device and can't be uninstall. Remember way back when Netscape sued Microsoft for having monopolistic capatilism with having IE installled by default? Eventually they got told By the surpreme court that they have to allow more competitive practice with third party vendors. as far as I can see Google is allowing third party vendors to coexist with their own apps...and thank good. I lovvvve my choices. I'm sure we'll see a filtered down version of honeycomb to smartphone. I bet Google chat will even come as a newly downloadable app from the market with such features. Google certainly have their hands fill. I'm pretty sure they got their hands fill for coding for tablets and smartphones at the same time.
Btw I hate using Skype...why doesn't the app have a turn off button?
thommcg said:
There's always Fring;
http://www.fring.com/android/
That said, as a Skype subscription holder it'd be nice to have video supported.
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How dare you....
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inspiron41 said:
Think about the legal ramifications. Google talk is praticially installed on every device and can't be uninstall. Remember way back when Netscape sued Microsoft for having monopolistic capatilism with having IE installled by default? Eventually they got told By the surpreme court that they have to allow more competitive practice with third party vendors. as far as I can see Google is allowing third party vendors to coexist with their own apps...and thank good. I lovvvve my choices. I'm sure we'll see a filtered down version of honeycomb to smartphone. I bet Google chat will even come as a newly downloadable app from the market with such features. Google certainly have their hands fill. I'm pretty sure they got their hands fill for coding for tablets and smartphones at the same time.
Btw I hate using Skype...why doesn't the app have a turn off button?
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You can uninstall any app on the phone if your rooted. And there is a log off/turn off button in skype.
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Carne_Asada_Fries said:
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
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Not a noob question. The xoom would have had it but skype pulled out. There is no android device that has it. The xoom and the thunderbolt were supposed to be the first to have it.
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Not a noob question. The xoom would have had it but skype pulled out. There is no android device that has it. The xoom and the thunderbolt were supposed to be the first to have it.
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heh that means my theory is right. damn i am good
There is a Skype app. It does make (voice only) calls over 3G (and 4G if you believe all the marketing hype). I use it quite regularly to talk with my family back in the US.
As for Google taking forever to put out all these apps, you have to understand that they are subject to the same dev process all other app developers are. They have to wait until the SDK is available. Yeah, they may get it a bit sooner than other devs, but I'd say only a week at most before. It doesn't benefit them to hold out just to get their stuff (apps) out first. And it takes time to produce [email protected]$$ apps. If you dev outside of an existing engine, even longer.
I praise Google for what they've done so far and I look forward to their contributions.
Yahoo video chat works wonderfully with the back camera. But I don't know how to set it to the front camera. Please help me. Anyone know how I can change to the front camera?
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Yahoo video chat works wonderfully with the back camera. But I don't know how to set it to the front camera. Please help me. Anyone know how I can change to the front camera?
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Where did you get yahoo messenger for transformer?
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Where did you get yahoo messenger for transformer?
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You need to install both of the following apps.
I know there are a lot of video apps out there that work for the transformer (fring, google talk, etc.). But the problem is not everybody has a honeycomb tablet. My relatives have everything from a viewsonic gtab to galaxy tab to the ipad2. Right now, the only thing that would allow all of these devices to video conference with one another is the yahoo video. Everything else works fine with yahoo video chat except for the damn transformer. I can't seem to figure out a way to switch to the front camera.
Anyway, the following 2 apps you need to install. They will work in all 2.2, 2.3, and 3.0 androids.
thanks a lot for this.
kdeguy said:
thanks a lot for this.
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Don't thank me. Just figure out how to switch to the front camera.
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You need to install both of the following apps.
I know there are a lot of video apps out there that work for the transformer (fring, google talk, etc.). But the problem is not everybody has a honeycomb tablet. My relatives have everything from a viewsonic gtab to galaxy tab to the ipad2. Right now, the only thing that would allow all of these devices to video conference with one another is the yahoo video. Everything else works fine with yahoo video chat except for the damn transformer. I can't seem to figure out a way to switch to the front camera.
Anyway, the following 2 apps you need to install. They will work in all 2.2, 2.3, and 3.0 androids.
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Woot, thanks for the links. Im downloading these right now.
Not sure where you got those apk files, but I want to thank you for sharing this.
I was very certain that yahoo messenger is available and should work in Transformer before I got mine, as I have been using it in my Android phone and love it so much.
Then I got my Transformer and what? Yahoo Messenger was not available in the Market?
Hopefully they will come out with a better one that works/optimized for the Honeycomb!
Shoot yahoo an email and tell them to incorporate the proper cam switching api.
Come on, guys, I know there are other video apps that work for the transformer, but do you honestly expect all your relatives to have a transformer? The yahoo messenger video is the only one that allows all tablets to talk with each other, including the ipad 2. Until skype comes along with an android video upgrade, this is the only multi-platform video chat program. Are you guys really going to let this slip?
Please help me figure out how to make this thing work for front camera on the transformer.
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Come on, guys, I know there are other video apps that work for the transformer, but do you honestly expect all your relatives to have a transformer? The yahoo messenger video is the only one that allows all tablets to talk with each other, including the ipad 2. Until skype comes along with an android video upgrade, this is the only multi-platform video chat program
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This isn't true, both can use fring (though it transmits your video upside down). As well, there is an iPad/iPhone/iOS/Android app called VTok, that will let you talk to other Android/iOS users via Google Talk Video Chat. I'm sure there are other options as well, but those are the best options off the top of my head
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This isn't true, both can use fring (though it transmits your video upside down). As well, there is an iPad/iPhone/iOS/Android app called VTok, that will let you talk to other Android/iOS users via Google Talk Video Chat. I'm sure there are other options as well, but those are the best options off the top of my head
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Um, no. These apps don't work in non-android 3.0. Some of us still use froyo and ginger.
Again, not everyone has a honeycomb tablet. And I'm thinking of video chatting with people with phones, not just tablet owners.
Again, you can't expect everyone to buy a honeycomb tablet.
Actually, VTok works with the following phones, according to their Android Market page (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skymobius.vtok):
This is an initial beta release of the app with limited device support. Front facing cameras on the following devices are supported:
HTC Evo 4G
Google Nexus S
Google Nexus One
All devices using Android OS 2.3.x
Looks like phones to me. fring also supports phones, though as I mentioned, it will transmit your video upside down to your friends
goodintentions said:
Come on, guys, I know there are other video apps that work for the transformer, but do you honestly expect all your relatives to have a transformer? The yahoo messenger video is the only one that allows all tablets to talk with each other, including the ipad 2. Until skype comes along with an android video upgrade, this is the only multi-platform video chat program. Are you guys really going to let this slip?
Please help me figure out how to make this thing work for front camera on the transformer.
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Unless someone hacks up the .apk, Yahoo has to change how the application sees the hardware on the device. I was being entirely serious about sending an email to yahoo so they can update it btw.
Tango seems to work also across iOS/Android platforms, except i think i needed to hold my Transformer upside down so it may not be detecting camera orientation when chatting with an iPad2 at the other end so not sure where the issue is, will need to test some more.
Deetz307 said:
Tango seems to work also across iOS/Android platforms, except i think i needed to hold my Transformer upside down so it may not be detecting camera orientation when chatting with an iPad2 at the other end so not sure where the issue is, will need to test some more.
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Sounds like the same thing as fring. I don't think it's a problem with the other end not detecting the orientation, I think these apps are simply not sending the video correctly as others are perfectly fine, but I could be wrong. Xoom users were also reporting the same thing with the upside down video with fring, it seems like an issue with fring/Tango not being ready for Honeycomb/it's APIs
Please keep this topic intact, we are discussing about how to get Yahoo Messenger video call works with the front camera here.
No offense here, but please do not distract the discussion in this thread to some other thing like other video calls solution. We all know they exist and work in some degree. But this thread was intended to find a solution for the Yahoo messenger issue.
Thanks!
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Please keep this topic intact, we are discussing about how to get Yahoo Messenger video call works with the front camera here.
No offense here, but please do not distract the discussion in this thread to some other thing like other video calls solution. We all know they exist and work in some degree. But this thread was intended to find a solution for the Yahoo messenger issue.
Thanks!
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The reason I provided alternative options is that it is highly unlikely that we'll have any workaround without any intervention from Yahoo itself. As well, I imagine most people would probably prefer to use Google Talk, if they realized it was possible. But, if you prefer I will keep my suggestions to myself...
Here's a solution that will work, two mirrors.
You're welcome.
JCopernicus said:
Unless someone hacks up the .apk, Yahoo has to change how the application sees the hardware on the device. I was being entirely serious about sending an email to yahoo so they can update it btw.
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Not gonna happen, though. These companies don't care what their customers think. The back facing camera has been an issue for a year now. If you do a search online, you will see that there are thousands of people have been complaining for the last year, and yahoo has done absolutely zip to fix the issue.
Since when did any of these companies respond to their customers' needs?
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The reason I provided alternative options is that it is highly unlikely that we'll have any workaround without any intervention from Yahoo itself. As well, I imagine most people would probably prefer to use Google Talk, if they realized it was possible. But, if you prefer I will keep my suggestions to myself...
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I value your suggestions. I really do. But google talk doesn't work with a lot of devices out there. And it certainly doesn't work with anything less than a 3.0... the video part I mean.
Again, you can't expect everyone to be using a 3.0 tablet. Yahoo is the only thing right now that seems to work with everything. If it weren't for the back-facing camera issue...
I find it insanely ridiculous that this Skype update didn't bring Video calling to the Xoom ( hell, not even to the Thunderbolt). Is there anybody working on a customized apk to have video calling work on the Xoom( unrooted, just install the apk no mods or anything). Link to a thread? Thanks
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glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?
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glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?
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Not sure, I did see an apk for other devices (Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S 2, etc) but none for Xoom. Anyone have a clue if this has worked for Xoom?
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I find it ridicuolous that they couldn't release support more phones and devices. Can someone post the apk?
Here you could find modified apk that works with other devices. I tried to install it on the XOOM, but I couldn't pass registration page. It's just return you to main screen without any feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
DEVs please modify it that we could use it on our XOOM tables.
Anyone here working on it?
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Guys I got a Skype update for my Transformer via Android Market and it sort of looks like a tablet app. High resolution graphics and stuff, you know. Also, it mentioned video calling on start up, I think - but I couldn't figure out how to use it. This is definately coming, give it a few more days
Skype almost worked
I downloaded and installed Skype awhile ago and was able to create an account but then it said it was unable to connect me to the network
Dunno why it wouldn't connect to my wi-fi network ... but it was exciting for a few minutes when it looked like it was going to work. After creating an account it went into connecting mode and until the error message popped up about not being able to connect it looked like it was going to work.
So close ... it almost made it. Perhaps it would work for someone on Verizon.
So far the only device added to the list of compatible devices is the Nexus S 4g. Not a single tablet.
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Skype with video chat for the thunderbolt was leaked like 3 months ago. I'm surprised it wasnt released during the official launch especially since the Thunderbolt was the first device skype with video was supposed to launch on.
Yeah I find this all very weird. Who knows, they did stop making Skype a Verizon exclusive... maybe that's why
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Well Verizon just unloaded that turkey to Microsoft. It's their problem now. Lol.
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I think what's obvious is that the skype video is basically a hack and not like google talk video since its so phone specific
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Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.
edengberg said:
Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.
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Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)
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Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)
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Thanks for correcting my post. I will still refrain from using Skype.
Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.
stobal02 said:
Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.
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That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.
LiViD said:
That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.
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With video, the point of using Skype on a tablet...
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So wait, I got a XOOM, and SKYPE works in general, can chat and voice talk, but NOT Video talk.... am I missing something?
Thanks
So..
Skype got updated and video call is now supported on some handsets (Desire S, Xperia, Nexus etc)
Nice new interface also..
Anyway some devs can get video working on our tablets ???
Tango works perfectly and its free, you can download it at Market.
Cheers!
meh on Tango. Installed the Thunderbolt version of Skype on my HTC Sensation and video worked fine. I wonder if it would work on the Iconia
Yep, screw tango, skype is allover the world, works on my epic with video but not on iconia (no video).
Skype uses NEON and Tegra 2 doesn't have it.
FearL0rd said:
Skype uses NEON and Tegra 2 doesn't have it.
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Does this mean Skype video will most likely never work for the Iconia a500?
I'm really going to be disappointed if this is the case... been waiting for video support for a while now.
I, like other, have tried the new skype 2.0.0.47 'hack' by theos0o (v5 i believe) but surely, skype crashes with the 'enable video' checked in the advanced menu.
Anyone?
I have been considering other video app options, only most of my friends and family are skype users... also I have been using skype for many years now, so it sucks their rotten suppprt for us android users...
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I really hate that we have to jump through hoops to have video chat on an Iconia. You see, it's really a selling point to have a front facing camera on a tablet. Automatically you would assume that since it has a front facing camera, it would have some video chat suite included..
lynxznet said:
I really hate that we have to jump through hoops to have video chat on an Iconia. You see, it's really a selling point to have a front facing camera on a tablet. Automatically you would assume that since it has a front facing camera, it would have some video chat suite included..
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It does, and it's included. It's called Google Talk, or on our tablets simply labeled "Talk". You can video chat with anyone on another tablet, pc, or even a mac.
kjy2010 said:
It does, and it's included. It's called Google Talk, or on our tablets simply labeled "Talk". You can video chat with anyone on another tablet, pc, or even a mac.
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I don't even think my Rom came with Google Talk, lol. Either way, I tried to use some google talk substitute before (can't recollect exactly what it was called), but.. it was quite bad =P
Johnny0906 said:
Tango works perfectly and its free, you can download it at Market.
Cheers!
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Everybody i know uses skype. Do we expect them all to change just so I can use the iconia for vid conferencing?
Tango doesn't work that well... Personally I tested it and it has a lot of audio problems. Anyway that's not the majoir problem with it. Tango is not a pc platform. I want be able to talk to anybody not just to the ones having a smartphone or a tablet. That's why Skype is superior, cause it works on every platform, and that's why it would be great having video support. It's all theoretical of course, cause, due to the fact our a500 mic is the worst mic ever built, to talk to somebody is impossible for the ones not living in the middle of a desert... To use voice I have to yell so loud that I could wake up ppl living 2 miles from my house.
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Everybody i know uses skype. Do we expect them all to change just so I can use the iconia for vid conferencing?
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Well, actually, yes. Skype is not very well supported on most mobile devices, as it is more of a PC app.
In my opinion, the best multi-platform thing going is Google Talk. It works on all of my current devices -- phone, tablet, desktop and notebook PCs. Anyone that I know who won't switch to Google Talk will only get to talk with me when I'm in front of my PC, and since I got the A500, the time spent in front of my PC is lessening every day.
If Skype doesn't quickly start improving support for mobile devices, it's only a matter of time before it starts quickly losing popularity.
lynxznet said:
I don't even think my Rom came with Google Talk, lol. Either way, I tried to use some google talk substitute before (can't recollect exactly what it was called), but.. it was quite bad =P
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You didn't think it came with GTalk?!?
Do you really own an A500?!?
A GTalk substitute is not the same as GTalk.
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Well, actually, yes. Skype is not very well supported on most mobile devices, as it is more of a PC app.
In my opinion, the best multi-platform thing going is Google Talk. It works on all of my current devices -- phone, tablet, desktop and notebook PCs. Anyone that I know who won't switch to Google Talk will only get to talk with me when I'm in front of my PC, and since I got the A500, the time spent in front of my PC is lessening every day.
If Skype doesn't quickly start improving support for mobile devices, it's only a matter of time before it starts quickly losing popularity.
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Exactly! And if you have a PC, or Mac, all you have to do is login to your gmail account and you can GTalk video chat right in your browser.
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...............That's why Skype is superior, cause it works on every platfor.......
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Except ours with video chat, but GTalk does video chat across all platforms ugh!
How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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dito33 said:
How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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You already have your answer. Why? Because Skype does not work on your tab, but Google talk does work. Skype is not a part of the Google family of products.
dito33 said:
How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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Get a new grandma! lol
I too wish Skype would just add video chat capabilities for all devices. It can't be THAT hard. I've got plenty of friends who use Skype, but I have absolutely NONE that use Google Talk and again, none of my friends' friends use it either so it wouldn't be possible to start converting them to Google Talk.
The simple fact is that Skype is way, WAY more popular than Google Talk.
WereCatf said:
I too wish Skype would just add video chat capabilities for all devices. It can't be THAT hard. I've got plenty of friends who use Skype, but I have absolutely NONE that use Google Talk and again, none of my friends' friends use it either so it wouldn't be possible to start converting them to Google Talk.
The simple fact is that Skype is way, WAY more popular than Google Talk.
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When I got my tablet, no one used Google talk for VC, but all I had to do was ask, n it was easy cuz if you have a gmail account, which almost everyone does, either by choice or by Droid, you can chat. You don't need another account, another program, anything! And for the (very!) Few I come across that 1) want to VC with me, 2) have a Skype, 3) don't have a Droid, and 4) somehow missed the gmail revolution, I convert them. They get to talk to me, AND get better email. Win-win. N seriously, how often do you come across someone that fullfills all of those criteria? Cuz if they are missing any of those 4, you're set