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[Q] Flashing Clockworkmod on MAGLDR 1.13

Hi All,
I've been looking for an answer and have not found one yet.
I have an existing NAND build (MDJ cyanogen 7) of android that I flashed via magldr 1.11. I know I can update magldr to 1.13 safely without messing deleting the the nand rom i have already. But if I want to install Clockworkmod 1.3 onto the nand will I lose my existing rom need to reflash my rom again or does magldr know to flash clockworkmod onto another area of nand that wont overwrite my existing rom?
also with clockworkmod it says:
Download recovery with partition size for the type of rom you plan on using, see guide below if unsure.
it says to use the 150MB partition just wanted to see if anyone else using mdj's cyanogen 7 is using the same thing?
Your help is greatly appreciated

ascrackoo1 said:
Hi All,
I've been looking for an answer and have not found one yet.
I have an existing NAND build (MDJ cyanogen 7) of android that I flashed via magldr 1.11. I know I can update magldr to 1.13 safely without messing deleting the the nand rom i have already. But if I want to install Clockworkmod 1.3 onto the nand will I lose my existing rom need to reflash my rom again or does magldr know to flash clockworkmod onto another area of nand that wont overwrite my existing rom?
also with clockworkmod it says:
Download recovery with partition size for the type of rom you plan on using, see guide below if unsure.
it says to use the 150MB partition just wanted to see if anyone else using mdj's cyanogen 7 is using the same thing?
Your help is greatly appreciated
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Yes you will lose your current rom, so do a cwm backup first. After flashing the partition for cwm, you will get a kernel error on first boot, so boot into AD Recovery and restore the boot, system and data backups and all is back to normal. As for the partition size, use the same size as you did for the sd version. The guide suggests a 400mb partition for an unsquashed desire hd build, but I used the 250mb partition on my current rom and all is perfect.
PS! Please don't post questions in the ROM Dev section, there's a reason why there is a Q&A section.

ClydeB1 said:
PS! Please don't post questions in the ROM Dev section, there's a reason why there is a Q&A section.
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+1
Its so frustrating, why on earth would anybody post a question topic in here when we have dedicated Q&A forum??
It should be obvious to anybody that this is a "dev" forum for posting developments not for asking questions.

Since the rom was originally flashed via DAF, will CWM still allow me to do a backup?
Was hoping for a guide, it's so confusing.

No, from what I understand you don't have CWM installed yet, so you can't use it now. Use titanium backup (market), and then flash cwm so you can use it in the future.

ascrackoo1 said:
Since the rom was originally flashed via DAF, will CWM still allow me to do a backup?
Was hoping for a guide, it's so confusing.
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It seems confusing at first but it is not really that difficult.
StephanV said:
No, from what I understand you don't have CWM installed yet, so you can't use it now. Use titanium backup (market), and then flash cwm so you can use it in the future.
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Correct, on first flash of cwm it will erase all data/roms etc on NAND. You will not be able to backup the rom if it was initially flashed via daf. As StephanV says, use Titanium Backup or MyBackup Root to back up your data/apps etc and you can restore them after.
Once you have cwm installed and have flashed a new rom and set it all up, then you can do a cwm backup.

So if i use cwm then I can only flash zip based roms from that point on? I cant use the daf ones anymore then.

You can still use daf, but each time you run a daf file it will remove the cwm recovery partition and you will need to reflash it to use cwm again.

I'm finding that if i flash cwm ontop of a daf rom the rom becomes unbootable. and the only way to get it to work again is use a cwm version of the rom.

ascrackoo1 said:
So if i use cwm then I can only flash zip based roms from that point on? I cant use the daf ones anymore then.
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i'm not sure about the rom you are using but i was able to back up a few different roms with cwm which i installed using daf. this is what i did:
1. create a folder on sdcard name "cwm" (you can name it whatever you want). i actually have a folder for each clockwork recovery version.
2. put the zImage and initrd.gz for cwm (version 1.0,1.1,or 1.2) in the folder you just created. (do not flash anything at this point)
3. boot into magldr and go to services, boot settings, ad sd dir and select the directory you just created
4. now in magldr menu boot ad sd, and you should hopefully boot into clockwork
5. go to backup and restore and backup your rom. if you try cwm 1.2 and it doesn't work try 1.0 to back it up, you can then update to 1.2 again and it will still restore just fine.
6. before restoring your rom, install cwm1.3 and choose a partition size bigger than the size of the system.img of the rom that you backed up. clockwork backs up your rom in your sdcard->clockworkmod->backup. it creates a folder with the timestamp.
7. now you can follow the steps from the clockworkmod thread to load cwm1.3 and restore from there.

ClydeB1 said:
You can still use daf, but each time you run a daf file it will remove the cwm recovery partition and you will need to reflash it to use cwm again.
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ascrackoo1 said:
I'm finding that if i flash cwm ontop of a daf rom the rom becomes unbootable. and the only way to get it to work again is use a cwm version of the rom.
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dont bother 'installing' clockwork, just put the two files on your sd card, then go into your MDJcyanogen rom folder on the PC, open (in notepad) flash.cfg and it will look something like
boot ya|boot|ro filesize+1M boot.img
misc ya 1M
recovery ya|ro 3M
cache ya 3M
system ya filesize system.img
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize
the partitions 'recovery' and 'misc' will allow cwm to work, they arent needed for this rom, they are only there for compatibility however if you plan on flashing to a different rom using sd card/cwm, (rather than simply using cwm to do backups of MDJcyanogen) you will want to edit the
system ya filesize system.img
and maybe set it to one of teh recommended cwm sizes, example
system ya 150M
this is because the original line
system ya filesize system.img
will set a system partition of the same size as the MDJcyanogen system.img, (about 130meg) but if your next rom has a bigger system.img, when you try load it from cwm it wont fit, so wont work. by setting it to 150 (or whatever you want) you are allowing for different size system.img in various roms.
Whenever you flash a nand rom, so long as you edit the flash.cfg and make sure those two partitions, misc and recovery (and maybe cache too, i do) are there, then cwm will work.

how do u get 1.13

sbgleeko said:
how do u get 1.13
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Go to nand development and its in the thread called (quite cunningly) "magldr 1.13 released "

[Q] Restoring my mt4g

I rooted my phone. I flashed it. and i was attempting to put in iced glacier. I messed up one of the steps -.-
On the clockworkmod recovery i backed up my phone.
I restored it then hit reboot now.
I've waited for a while.. But all i'm getting is the mytough 4g screen >.<
Any ideas?

boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data

cybereclipse said:
boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data
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I think I am in the same boat as the OP.
I rooted the Mt4g, backed up stock Sense Froyo with Clockworkmod 3, then installed Cyanogenmod 7 with Clockworkmod 3.
I want to revert back to the stock Sense Froyo. I simply did a restore in Clockworkmod 3 to my Sense Froyo backup, and now all it shows is the white Mt4g screen.
Will clearing the cache and data before restoring the Sense Froyo be my fix too?
Thanks. OP, didnt mean to take over your thread but I think we are having the same issue so didnt want to make another thread.

The version of ClockworkMod Recovery you are using MATTERS. It MATTERS VERY MUCH.
Froyo based ROMs, including Stock and Iced Glacier, must be backed up, restored, and installed with CWMR Version 2. Gingerbread based ROMs such as CM7 must be backed up, restored, and installed with CWMR Version 3.
A higher number does not mean better. There are filesystem differences between Froyo and Gingerbread that require the correct tools.
There is a custom version of CWMR for the MT4G that can handle both types of filesystems (assuming you haven't already used the wrong tools) -- it is called version "3.0.0.6" -- you can look for it on the Development Sub Forum.

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I did not know that information at the time when I created the restore file.
When restoring with Clockworkmod 3 failed, I flashed Clockworkmod 2 and restored the recovery made by 3 using 2. Its working so far... It did show one or two errors when I restored.

cybereclipse said:
boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data
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So i'm new to all of this.
I don't want to make the wrong move.
I've got CWMR v3.0.0.5
Just to be clear. I go into CWMR. Do i wipe cache partition, then wipe dalvik cache, wipe data.. then restore again? or reboot system now?
OR do I need to flash CWMR 2 or 3.0.0.6? If so. How do i do that without going through rom manager? I'm noob.
Thanks!

Frankasaurus said:
So i'm new to all of this.
I don't want to make the wrong move.
I've got CWMR v3.0.0.5
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That is incompatible with Iced Glacier. You can't use 3.0.0.5 with Iced Glacier, or with the Stock ROM. Ever.
In addition, clearing /cache and /data and the Dalvik cache (which is inside of the /data partition, so won't actually do anything if /data is also reformatted) will not solve your problem. Because ....
The partition with the problem is /system -- which is where the ROM lives. That partition is now in EXT4 format, which a Froyo-based ROM cannot access. The Froyo kernel boots (from the /boot partition) and gets errors when it looks in /system.... and reboots. Hence, your boot loop.
Your easiest fix would be to install CM7 so that you have a functional Android OS on your phone. THEN ..... after getting CM7 running, flash a version 2 image of CWMR from ROM Manager (included in CM7), then boot it, and install Iced Glacier.

jggimi said:
Your easiest fix would be to install CM7 so that you have a functional Android OS on your phone. THEN ..... after getting CM7 running, flash a version 2 image of CWMR from ROM Manager (included in CM7), then boot it, and install Iced Glacier.
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Sounds like that's the course of action. Any threads leading to how to install CM7 in my situation? I'm watching youtube videos on different things trying to learn the best option. But I don't really want to trust tho

From Recovery 3.0.0.5, mount your SD card for use with USB (in the mounts and storage menu) and transfer a CM7 .zip to the card. Get it from http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=glacier
Factory wipe / System Reset from the main menu of Recovery, and install the .zip as you did Iced Glacier.
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CM7 does not include Google Apps. If you were intending to actually =use= the ROM instead of using it temporarily as part of a rescue process, you will likely want them. The .zip can be found at http://android.d3xt3r01.tk/cyanogen/gapps/gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip -- install from Recovery after installing CM7.
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Boot CM7. You'll find ROM Manager in the App drawer. Use it to Flash a version 2.x CWM Recovery -- look under "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom of the ROM Manager main screen.
Long press the power button. Select Reboot. CM7 will prompt you for what kind of boot. Select Recovery.
Do another full wipe/factory reset. Install Iced Glacier .zip as you did previously, and reboot.

jggimi said:
CM7 does not include Google Apps. If you were intending to actually =use= the ROM instead of using it temporarily as part of a rescue process, you will likely want them. The .zip can be found at ... -- install from Recovery after installing CM7.
Boot CM7. You'll find ROM Manager in the App drawer. Use it to Flash a version 2.x CWM Recovery -- look under "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom of the ROM Manager main screen.
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So the second zip is only if I want to keep the CM7 ROM? If I do, then I use that zip to get Google Apps?
Also, before I look under "All ClockworkMod recoveries" will I have to install CWM recovery 3.0.0.6 or 2.x first?
In that case. I'll do some research on CM7 too. Idk if iced glacier is better or CM7. Maybe it just depends on preference?

Frankasaurus said:
So the second zip is only if I want to keep the CM7 ROM? If I do, then I use that zip to get Google Apps?
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Correct.
Also, before I look under "All ClockworkMod recoveries" will I have to install CWM recovery 3.0.0.6 or 2.x first?
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3.0.0.6 could be used instead of a 2.x version. But it requires its own manual install. Based on the questions in this thread, I'm not recommending CWM Recovery 3.0.0.6 at this point, as you folks do not have a functioning Android system and would have to modify the 3.0.0.6 install procedures. There's only so much knowledge a person can absorb at once. Get your phones working, first.
In that case. I'll do some research on CM7 too. Idk if iced glacier is better or CM7. Maybe it just depends on preference?
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It is =entirely= a matter of personal preference. There are plenty of people who prefer one over the other. There are also those who prefer neither, and are using yet again another ROM. Poke around in the forum threads here to get a feel for what people think.

jggimi said:
3.0.0.6 could be used instead of a 2.x version. But it requires its own manual install. Based on the questions in this thread, I'm not recommending CWM Recovery 3.0.0.6 at this point, as you folks do not have a functioning Android system and would have to modify the 3.0.0.6 install procedures. There's only so much knowledge a person can absorb at once. Get your phones working, first.
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sweet. So i'll go with the 2.x version then. In that case, I won't have to install it? it'll just be there?
I'm not at home so I can't try any of it out yet. Just trying to learn as much as i can first

ROM Manager should be able to pull the image from the Internet. CM7, even without Google Apps, should automagically connect your phone and its number and its data plane to T-Mobile's network.

zomg. this is sweet. Thanks for all your help!!! I'm gonna keep CM7 for now. I installed the google app zip. Any suggestions on where to start exploring? The main thing that i wanted to root my phone for was to take screenshots. threads? Bah. so much to explore!

So if on 3.0.0.6 and wanting to go from CM7 to IG, you recommend going into "all clockworkmod recoveries", switching over to a 2.0 version (does it matter which?), and then doing backup, wipe, install?

No. 3.0.0.6 is a unique, one-off version that supports both ext3 and ext4 file systems, and deals correctly with both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs.
If you were on 3.0.0.5, and wished to install a Froyo ROM, you would back up first, before flashing a 2.x Recovery. Think about it.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5

jggimi said:
No. 3.0.0.6 is a unique, one-off version that supports both ext3 and ext4 file systems, and deals correctly with both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
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So I can just go directly into recovery from Rom Manager and backup/wipe/install Iced Glacier?

Yep. Please see the threads on it in the development sub forum.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5

jggimi said:
Yep. Please see the threads on it in the development sub forum.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
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Been reading them, but there is 371 pages in the nighlies thread, and 54 pages in the RC7 thread...I'm bound to miss a thing or two, I'm human
But thank you!

The 3.0.0.6 threads. Much lighter reading.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something

[Q] Backup HD2 Nandroid?

What is the best way to back up Nandriod on an HTC HD2? I have an aversion to trying most of the methods because they seem to all be specifically tailored to Native Android phones.

I take it that you have MAGLDR and Clockwork installed... why not just backup using the AD Recovery option in MAGLDR 1.13 and then choosing 'Backup and Restore'. Then just follow your nose.

So to clarify;
ClockworkRecoveryMod isn't its own ROM?
Nor will it override my current rom if I installed the rom before CRM?

You need to wipe your current rom to install clockwork. Flash clockwork from Magldr "usb flasher" then access clockwork with "boot ad recovery" option on magldr. Once in clockwork, install roms in zip format from SD card. You can also do full backup/restore and partition SD for sd-ext using clockwork.
Sent from my HTC HD2

polo735 said:
You need to wipe your current rom to install clockwork. Flash clockwork from Magldr "usb flasher" then access clockwork with "boot ad recovery" option on magldr. Once in clockwork, install roms in zip format from SD card. You can also do full backup/restore and partition SD for sd-ext using clockwork.
Sent from my HTC HD2
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So How do/can I save my ROM before installing clockwork?

omAcronAlpha said:
So How do/can I save my ROM before installing clockwork?
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I am also interested to know how to do it

Ironically the program in Clockwork is actually called 'Nandroid Backup' lol. It's not got to doo with HD2 and NAND Android though.
Basically you can't flash CWM and keep your current DFT ROM. It'll erase it as when you have clockwork you don't install ROM's by DFT flasher, you do it by .zip files on the phone.
Basically if you want to backup your settings and apps use a program like 'Titanium Backup' or 'MyBackup Pro'. Mybackup is my personal favourite, but it's up to you. It saves to your SD card so you can keep the file stored on your PC incase you need to back up.

Right Scellyyy and I also suggest to backup the SD card on the PC because for some ROM's you need to format or partition the SD card.
So if the Originial ROM is backuped you are now able to restore all the data.
1. Backup with Titanium or so
2. Copy whole SD card to PC
3. Be sure to have the actual installed ROM
4. Install Mag, Cwm and the NAND ROM of your choice with the certain tutorial for that
5. If you don't like it: Just flash the old ROM
6. Copy SD data back
7. Restore backup and your done
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nobnut said:
I take it that you have MAGLDR and Clockwork installed... why not just backup using the AD Recovery option in MAGLDR 1.13 and then choosing 'Backup and Restore'. Then just follow your nose.
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When i choose "AD Recovery" i get the message:"No boot source"

you have to flash clockworkmod recovery aka cwm. it's basically a separated partition for nandroid.
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omAcronAlpha said:
So How do/can I save my ROM before installing clockwork?
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try "mybackuppro" which is available in the market.u can backup ur data,but u cant backup ur current rom.u hav to use cwm dor that !
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[Q] Flashing another ROM over an existing ROM?

Apologies if I am at all asking a question that has been answered before (forum search did not help much), but I am trying to find out how to safely flash a different ROM onto my device.
I have installed HSPL3, Radio 2.15, MAGLDR 1.13, ClockworkMod Recovery and NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 using the NAND method.
I want to shop around and check a few different ROM's before donating to the one that suits my needs, but I need to know if it is simply a case of flashing a new ROM over the existing one using the same methods or is it slightly more complicated than that?
Thanks.

Ugh no need to flash over hspl, magldr, or radio. Just use cwm to flash it. However depending on the rom, you may need to flash a different cwm. Eg. Cyano is the 150mb partition, sense is the biggest partition.
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Kailkti said:
Ugh no need to flash over hspl, magldr, or radio. Just use cwm to flash it. However depending on the rom, you may need to flash a different cwm. Eg. Cyano is the 150mb partition, sense is the biggest partition.
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Hi,
If I were you ,I would backup your existing ROM in CWM(go to backup and restore).
That way if your next ROM is no good or if there is any problem,you can easily restore the original.
Before you install a new ROM,READ the [OP] carefully ,paying special attention to the size of the new recovery partition.
Then you can flash the new recovery partition,wipe data,cache partition and dalvik(in advanced),
then install zip from sd card.

Do I need to clear anything for smaller ROMS/MODS?
I currently am running the latest GingerTh3ory Rom with its respective radio. Then in it's candystor3 app I downloaded the 'honeycomb battery' full mod pack so that it uses a honeycomb UI with the battery and small things like that.
When I change the battery and do system and individual MODS should I clear anything? I don't want to slow my phone down by keep flashing MODS over top of one another? My friend convinced me to root and so now I'm getting used to this.
Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks

I have come to find that most new Rom's usually will format everything needed when you are flashing over another Rom. Just to be cautious go into CWM and maually fomat Boot, system, cache, sd-ext(if applies) data, and then go to advanced and wipe Dalvik cache...

[Q] please help regurding the clock work mod recovery

Hello every one. im using hyperdroid cm7 rom, i just flashed it two weeks ago with the MAGLDR 1.13 and the clock work mod v1.3_150MB but now im having a problem with clock work mod recovery and that is when i try to load the clock work mod recovery it says "invalid image" something like that and it dosent load the clock work mod recovery and goes back to the MAGLDR1.13 menu so how i should deal with it should i re-flash the clock work mod 1.3_150mb recovery? and if i do this will i have any problem with the rom or will lose any thing? please help me and thanks in advance to all.....

Wow 40 views not a single reply i think i asked a wrong question....

I would reinstall CWM. Be sure to install the CWM recommended by the Rom's chef as they can be different partition size. You should not loose your data by reflashing CWM. I believe the partition you are looking for 150M. Here is a link: http://www.multiupload.com/41E9UMRO45

Yea re flashing cwm will wipe all the nand partitions because they are all re created empty. If you have been using an ext partition you can save the contents of that, I.e your installed apps, , and if the rom you were on put the whole data part there you can maybe save your data too, tho I suspect you will have to bite the bullet and start from scratch.

samsamuel said:
Yea re flashing cwm will wipe all the nand partitions because they are all re created empty. If you have been using an ext partition you can save the contents of that, I.e your installed apps, , and if the rom you were on put the whole data part there you can maybe save your data too, tho I suspect you will have to bite the bullet and start from scratch.
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sam thx but my question i dont have an ext partition for the apps so if i re flash the 150 partition of cwm will i lose roms data and will i have to reinstall the rom again? and by doing this is there any chance bricking the hd2? what should i do please recomand.

michdj00 said:
I would reinstall CWM. Be sure to install the CWM recommended by the Rom's chef as they can be different partition size. You should not loose your data by reflashing CWM. I believe the partition you are looking for 150M. Here is a link.....
michdj ya i was recommended to use the 150 partition but im afraid to reflashing it what if i lose all the rom data and brick my hd2.....
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I do not really understand your problem...
Why do you go into CWM if you already loaded the ROM and using it successfully?
What do you want to do??
To get to CWM, go to Magldr select option 5 I believe (Recovery) press GREEN (call) button and you'll get CWM menu.
Does that answer your question?

Recovery is option 8.
I assume the issue was created be cause you tried ROM Manager with MAGLDR, it will mess up your phone. (use ROM Manager only with cLK Bootloader)

thanks
Tester30 said:
I do not really understand your problem...
Why do you go into CWM if you already loaded the ROM and using it successfully?
What do you want to do??
To get to CWM, go to Magldr select option 5 I believe (Recovery) press GREEN (call) button and you'll get CWM menu.
Does that answer your question?
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tester30 basically i needed to update a fix for the rom and it has to be done by loading into the cwm so when i got the fix from the rom thread i tried to load the cwm and i face the problem....

thanks
Marvlesz said:
Recovery is option 8.
I assume the issue was created be cause you tried ROM Manager with MAGLDR, it will mess up your phone. (use ROM Manager only with cLK Bootloader)
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Marvlesz i think u r very right actually i did a the "fix permission" in the rom manager and also pressed "backup rom" in the rom manager menu.I did it because in the rom manager it sayas clearly that backup using clock work mode so i thought of doing that what should i do now please help me out

sandb said:
Marvlesz i think u r very right actually i did a the "fix permission" in the rom manager and also pressed "backup rom" in the rom manager menu.I did it because in the rom manager it sayas clearly that backup using clock work mode so i thought of doing that what should i do now please help me out
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it would be better you flashed mgldr and cwm partition and install the rom again.

mutil said:
it would be better you flashed mgldr and cwm partition and install the rom again.
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i guess i have to do it.thanks for the info multi.