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Here is my latest application SMS Switch which can trigger a command line based on the SMS received.
Built with the idea of ‘Push LIKE mail’ where the device gets the SMS notification on ‘New mail’ from your email service. rk-SMS Switch intercepts the SMS and based on the SMS sender and/or message text executes the command line (such as \Windows\tmail.exe) to synchronize the emails.
Required:
Your device is able to synchronize the emails using pocket outlook.
Your device receives the SMS notification on new mail message.
Uses:
Push LIKE mail
Not wasting bandwidth for keep checking the server at regular intervals.
Saving the battery since you do not need always on gprs.
If you have multiple email accounts and want to make use of wifi network etc, then you might want to check up my other application rk-OSR which has support for command line execution.
This is just an idea and initial version. Let me know if you guys like it.
(Updated latest working version 1.0.4)
Version 1.0.4
Supports square screens(320 X 320)
Version 1.0.3
Now the triggerring SMS are automatically removed from your inbox! All normal SMS will only appear in the SMS inbox.
Now the application can be activated by the menu short cuts etc. No need to go to today screen. New option added to put it to tray or not.
Not tested much as I do not have SMS plans to play with each SMS i send to test get charged
Version 1.0.2 Hotfix
Bug fix: Please do not use version 1.0.1 which has a issue to sync up outlook and unusable.
Version 1.0.1 Updates
Separate tabs added for command line OR Outlook use.
If using the command line to invoke rk-OSR then timeout option added so that if multiple sms received only one the command line is executed(based on the timeout)
If want to sync up only one account then use the 'Outlook' option and only configure the 'Outlook' tab.
If using outlook show/hide outlook option added.
Since I am using Windows Live Push mail I am not using this application so you will be the tester!
If you like the application please show your support by donation on Paypal
Download from here
thank again great work
This is a great concept. I don't need it, as I don't push email to my phone, but I might now with this great program.
great program! if only i had data plan, so sad
How does this work?
I tried to run it, and nothing happened. I keep clicking the icon it placed in my start menu, and I can't figure out how to configure anything.
This sounds like a great solution, if it works that is...
It needs some documentation!
EDIT: found it on the today screen. Gosh, I wouldn't have known to look there!
Now, my question is how to manage the incoming sms it creates... If I receive a bunch of emails, I now have a bunch of SMS messages cluttering up my inbox. Can anyone think of a good way to hide the incoming SMS and silently delete it?
Dishe said:
Now, my question is how to manage the incoming sms it creates... If I receive a bunch of emails, I now have a bunch of SMS messages cluttering up my inbox. Can anyone think of a good way to hide the incoming SMS and silently delete it?
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Yes, I know the SMS needs to be cleared, Hopefully in the next version.
thank youuuuuuuuuuu i like it
tytnguy said:
Yes, I know the SMS needs to be cleared, Hopefully in the next version.
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Yeah, cuz that extra step sort of kills the whole convenience of it...
what I *used* to do when I wanted to save battery power, is forward my gmail to my sms address, and when I saw the first 160 chars with my sms, I'd delete it, go over to outlook and fetch new mail.
With this, at least I don't have to actually click fetch new mail, but it still requires manual deletion, so its not a complete solution yet. :/
looking forward to the next version then...
By the way, how do u get sms notifications for your email? Do you just forward a copy of your email to your sms address? Because if doing it that way, how do u tell the difference between what is coming from your email and what is just something someone sent to your sms directly?
if someone sends you an sms, most likely they will send it through a phone number. if forwarded from an email, the sender will not be a phone number, most likely an email address or some other sender info that is separate from a standard phone number like you would get from a normal sms.
I think that's how it works.
I currently do the same style as you. have gmail forward me an sms of the email message. if it looks important i go to outlook and download the entire message.
Dishe said:
... how do u get sms notifications for your email? Do you just forward a copy of your email to your sms address?
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Well, For me I use windows live so actually I do not need it . But I thought it might be a battery saver so developed it.
Dishe said:
...how do u tell the difference between what is coming from your email and what is just something someone sent to your sms directly?
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The field 'From' contains... Should have a partial email address... May be @Gmail.com(I am not sure about how you get emails forwarded, check the text message from address and set it)
You could also use 'Message' Contains option to check only if there is a predefined text in the message.
To use either of the two options use 'OR' option.
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The field 'From' contains... Should have a partial email address... May be @Gmail.com(I am not sure about how you get emails forwarded, check the text message from address and set it)
You could also use 'Message' Contains option to check only if there is a predefined text in the message.
To use either of the two options use 'OR' option.
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ah, see gmail is good enough to leave the message intact exactly as it is recieved, original sender and all. So, as I said, there's no way to tell it was forwarded from gmail at all.
Maybe what I should do then is forward to hotmail or something that DOESNT leave everything intact, and from THERE forward to my inbox... a bit backwards...
yes i agree. gmail is good in that they are generous enough to convert the email address to only showing the Sender's name. normally this is appreciated, but in this case, it makes things a bit more complicated as now like Dishe said, it is impossible to distinguish between a normal sms and one being forwarded by gmail.
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EDIT: I may have a work around. When GMAIL forwards an email to your phone with an sms notification, the sms contains the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" within the body of the SMS as part of the actual text message.
The program lets you set a filter for the FROM field and/or the MESSAGE field. So using the program, you can put the filter to either one of the three "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" instead of the default "@". This would eliminate the need to know that it was forwarded from GMail at all.
This would solve the problem because regular SMS when sent does not show the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" in the body of the sms. in theory it looks like works, i havent tested it. i installed the program, can you please let me know what is the command line argument to have it send/receive?
Right now i have the command line sent to windows/tmail.exe and it just opens the email prog. I guess i need the argument too to have it actually send/receive.
NguyenHuu said:
...I may have a work around. When GMAIL forwards an email to your phone with an sms notification, the sms contains the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" within the body of the SMS as part of the actual text message.
The program lets you set a filter for the FROM field and/or the MESSAGE field. So using the program, you can put the filter to either one of the three "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" instead of the default "@". This would eliminate the need to know that it was forwarded from GMail at all.
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Nice suggestion NguyenHuu!. It should work as you suggested
NguyenHuu said:
... can you please let me know what is the command line argument to have it send/receive?
Right now i have the command line sent to windows/tmail.exe and it just opens the email prog. I guess i need the argument too to have it actually send/receive.
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Try the cammand line as follows
Commanline ----> \Windows\tmail.exe
Arguments------> -service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
Where "Gmail Account Name" should be the name of your account as typed on the pocket outlook and double quotes are required.
it worked! i tested it three times.
1. sent regular sms via a IM application on PC (AIM).
2. sent SMS via another cell phone.
3. had email forwarded through gmail to phone
i used FRM: for FROM contains, and SUBJ: for Message contains. I chose teh "OR" option.
worked as planned. the first two regular sms was sent without activating the inbox syncing. the third time when gmail forwarded the email to my phone sms, since it contained the field: FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" it automtically sync my inbox.
one thing though, it automatically syncs the inbox which is great but it does so in the background so you still need to go to the inbox then go to the message to read it. is it possible to make it so after it syncs, it opens the actual inbox so you can see your list of unread emails? maybe through adding to the argument?
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it worked! i tested it three times.
1. sent regular sms via a IM application on PC (AIM).
2. sent SMS via another cell phone.
3. had email forwarded through gmail to phone
i used FRM: for FROM contains, and SUBJ: for Message contains. I chose teh "OR" option.
worked as planned. the first two regular sms was sent without activating the inbox syncing. the third time when gmail forwarded the email to my phone sms, since it contained the field: FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" it automtically sync my inbox.
one thing though, it automatically syncs the inbox which is great but it does so in the background so you still need to go to the inbox then go to the message to read it. is it possible to make it so after it syncs, it opens the actual inbox so you can see your list of unread emails? maybe through adding to the argument?
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The problem that I mentioned before was that ALL EMAIL sent to [email protected] will have FRM:, SUBJ:, MSG in the body, whether it comes from gmail or not.
Sometimes, if I'm at my desk and want to remember something, I'll send an email to my phone's sms address. Also, I have freinds with data plans and no sms plans who email to sms ([email protected]) all the time.
Your solution could not differentiate between those emails sent purposely to an sms address versus ones meant to trigger syncing.
Right now, its not a big problem yet since the app doesnt delete the trigger sms. But at the same time, I hate having to clear two independant inboxes of new messages now (both email and the sms trigger need clearing), so I need the function to remove the trigger after it syncs eventually.
If the email wasnt supposed to be a trigger, you can understand why this may prove problematic.
hmmm...
NguyenHuu said:
great program! if only i had data plan, so sad
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I Know! Outrageous prices, to put it mildly.
xd1936 said:
I Know! Outrageous prices, to put it mildly.
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heh, mine's free. Not to brag or anything, but Sprint over here in the states has killer 3G data plans. I'm just looking to maximize my meager battery life.
EDIT: By the way, TyTnGuy, I went to set up a hotmail/windows live account so that I could try forwarding email THERE and then have THAT forward to my sms with the @hotmail account in the header, but guess what? Live/Hotmail doesn't support forwarding AT ALL!!
So, it looks to me like you couldn't possibly have gotten this to work yourself... What are you not telling us?
he said he doesnt need the program since he uses live mail which should have its own pushlike mail in wm. he creating the program for people who may need it, and specifically cited gmail in his example. i think haha.
i am still trying to figure out if there is a commandline argument that opens up the inbox after it syncs. that's a really good thing to have i think. right after you get the notifications, the inbox opens and you can see all your unread email.
i am about to set up a dataplan, not just for this but for other business, and so that is why, despite my earlier comment about not having a dataplan, i am so interested in it now haha. better then polling every X-minutes indeed.
sorry to bring this back up. anyone happen to know the command line argument to open up inbox?
this is the current argument that makes it sync when you get a sms notification: service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
that works fine, but it does so in the background. I was hoping there is more to the argument where after it syncs it opens the inbox for you. or it open inbox then sync is fine too
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sorry to bring this back up. anyone happen to know the command line argument to open up inbox?
this is the current argument that makes it sync when you get a sms notification: service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
that works fine, but it does so in the background. I was hoping there is more to the argument where after it syncs it opens the inbox for you. or it open inbox then sync is fine too
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I am working on a next version I will do something to support the above request.
I just got into this article, new version 2.2 has just been released:
http://droidedup.com/2010/05/hullomail-2-2-for-android-now-available/
http://www.hullomail.com/us/android.html
And I found one alternative:
http://www.youmail.com
Is anyone using it with HTC Desire?
Any issue with it? Please if you can give short review
Have been using the previous version with no issues. Not had a lot of VM's but it works in that it sends you an MP3 of the message to your email address, or you can call the local number (included in your contract minutes normally) to retrieve the message as you normally would. You can also set custom greeting message if you wish. I would definately recommend - I've been on T-mobile in UK for few years and retrieving VM's were always the only 'external' charges on my bill each month - no more!
Thanks for your info. But I found this app is only for UK and US...
It is not available for other countries
Too bad, I live in NL.
And I can't find alternative.
I was thinking if there is an app that can simply record voicemail to local phone storage as mp3. That would be enough...
fdrzrich said:
Have been using the previous version with no issues. Not had a lot of VM's but it works in that it sends you an MP3 of the message to your email address, or you can call the local number (included in your contract minutes normally) to retrieve the message as you normally would. You can also set custom greeting message if you wish. I would definately recommend - I've been on T-mobile in UK for few years and retrieving VM's were always the only 'external' charges on my bill each month - no more!
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Found http://www.youmail.com/
The thing that I dont understand, how does it works "actually"? Because the basic service is free.
From their FAQ:
Q. How does YouMail work?
It's really simple. Calls you don't answer get forwarded to YouMail instead of your current wireless voicemail. That's it.
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So, I will still pay to forward the voice mail to YouMail, correct?
I tried hullomail for about a day, and frankly didnt really like it,
had to sign in every time etc.. was just annoying so gave it up
Sign in? I never have to sign in. The only problem with hullomail I guess is that if you have your internet connection off, you wont get to know that you have a voicemail. (someone plz correct me if i am wrong here)
veryjiggy said:
Sign in? I never have to sign in. The only problem with hullomail I guess is that if you have your internet connection off, you wont get to know that you have a voicemail. (someone plz correct me if i am wrong here)
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Unfortunately, this appears to be the case - if your phone is offline you get no notification. Hullomail originally offered SMS notifications, but they are no longer available. Customers who set-up SMS notifications in the past are still receiving them however!
WORKAROUND TO RECEIVE OFFLINE HULLOMAIL SMS NOTIFICATIONS
When a voicemail or missed call is registered by Hullomail, the system can send you both an email with the details/message, and a separate notification email.
It's possible that you could set the notification to go to an email>sms address - a number of providers, including some mobile companies - offer this service. (ipipi is one such provider that used to.. You'd have to double check)
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Unfortunately, this appears to be the case - if your phone is offline you get no notification. Hullomail originally offered SMS notifications, but they are no longer available. Customers who set-up SMS notifications in the past are still receiving them however!
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My SMS notifications has stopped.
UpdateHullomail now offers SMS notifications, and transcription.
Both services are at a cost, and can be purchased in the 'in-app store' after installing the app in Google Play. One or more services might not be available for certain countries.
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I've been using this for years, on Blackberries then Androids. It's always been flawless for me, and it's handy to have a permanent email with the voicemail attached. The facility to "just" dial in to get your voicemails when there's no data signal is great too.
Anyone recommend a decent visual voicemail app ?
I'm aware that t-mobile US do an app for android, but they don't seem to do it in the UK.
Any other apps that are recommended to do the same thing ?
I use Hullomail. Works fine. But the biggest problem is it gives you notifications only via emails. So if you are in an area which has no data connection, you would never come to know if you have a voicemail.
yeah i use hullomail too, its still a bit slow but they are actively working on it.
you can solve the problem of not knowing that you have a message by subscribing to free sms updates in your account, this will text you if you have a missed call or a voicemail.
kinkade said:
yeah i use hullomail too, its still a bit slow but they are actively working on it.
you can solve the problem of not knowing that you have a message by subscribing to free sms updates in your account, this will text you if you have a missed call or a voicemail.
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How do you subscribe to free sms updates? I can't see an option anywhere.
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How do you subscribe to free sms updates? I can't see an option anywhere.
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you need to login to hullomail on the web and go to the notifications tab, there are two check boxes there which you cant miss, one for missed calls and one for voicemails.
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you need to login to hullomail on the web and go to the notifications tab, there are two check boxes there which you cant miss, one for missed calls and one for voicemails.
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Don't have a tab called notifications. Have an option for missed calls, but none for sms updates. Weird.
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Don't have a tab called notifications. Have an option for missed calls, but none for sms updates. Weird.
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Are you lloking on the hullomail website or in the app? because i'm talking about the website and inbetween the email and service info tabs is one called notification and the option for sms reminders is there. I have no tab for missed called on the website.
have you setup your provider? i'm with t-mobile possibly the service of sms is only provided in conjunction with them.
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Are you lloking on the hullomail website or in the app? because i'm talking about the website and inbetween the email and service info tabs is one called notification and the option for sms reminders is there. I have no tab for missed called on the website.
have you setup your provider? i'm with t-mobile possibly the service of sms is only provided in conjunction with them.
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was talking about the website as well. i don't have anything between the email and service info tabs. the missed call option is under the 'General' tab. I am also with t-mobile btw.
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was talking about the website as well. i don't have anything between the email and service info tabs. the missed call option is under the 'General' tab. I am also with t-mobile btw.
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ok dude, i've emailed the devs to ask as they have been very helpful to me in the past when i was using a blackberry.
you are in the uk right?
yep, in the UK.
Thanks so much for contacting them!
For you, does the sms service work seamlessly?
yeah it all works really well.
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yeah it all works really well.
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Second that! Hullomail sms service works really well for me too.
Also no SMS option, in the UK
this is the answer from andy at hullomail, so you can email them ad they'll enable sms notifications.
Hullo Will,
Yes that is the downside of any data notification mechanism - can't wait for data to be the only carriage so we get 100% coverage .
We are balancing two issues with SMS, usability and expense. Our aim is to keep our service free so we've gradually been limiting the use of SMS as its the single most expensive element of running the service. Today HulloMail is taking over 2M messages a month in voicemails and missed calls and currently growing 20% month on month.
However saying all that we enable SMS on a per request basis -- it can be requested via [email protected]. We will be bundling SMS freely as part of a premium bunch of features which can be switched on and off via the mobile app as and when needed in Q3.
On the background thing we will be adding this functionality. We currently use a mix of web and native views but our plan is to evolve the message list to auto-update in the background -- bare with us on this one
I hope I answered all your questions.
cheers
andy
Thanks Kinkade!
Thumbs up for Hullomail here too.
I've just logged in and I'm fortunate in that I get the option for SMS notifications.
It's probably because I've been using Hullomail since the middle of last year.
Regards,
Dave
Yeah, the HUllo mail guys are awesome, they have always been really quick whenever i've queried summat.
apparently they are growing at 20% per month and process over 2million messages a month. thats the main reason for having to request sms notifications apparently its the biggest cost for them
So my Girlfriend is living in japan for now and she gave me the handy email address that is linked to her phone(blahblah at i.softbank.jp) so i can text her without getting hit with international rates... but the problem is, when i text her from my phone in handcent and the stock messaging app it sends as a MMS... which is annoying because when she replies it sends a lot of sprint mumbo jumbo with it instead of just the text she sent. is there a way to stop the phone from automatically changing my text into a MMS when sending a text to an Email Address??
I don't know the answer to your question, but could I offer suggestions?
You didn't say what kind of phone she has. Is it android? If it is, you could get her a gmail account and use google talk. Another idea could be to have both of you open an account with someplace like msn, aol, icq, yahoo, etc and just use the im program that's on just about every phone I've seen. I would think that way wouldn't rack up international charges.
I'm sure there are other possibilities to communicate relatively quickly without extra charges.
or just use gmail to text the number
or use the google voice app to text/email the number
goodelyfe said:
or just use gmail to text the number
or use the google voice app to text/email the number
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thanks for the suggestions but... it seems like using gmail wont be as instant since i would have to refresh the app every minute just to see if there was a reply and then with google voice i cant send a text to an email address and sending a text directly to her number wouldn't work because she'll have to break the bank to reply to me since the number is still a US number.
i mean holy *&[email protected]
is a refresh too much to ask for? lol guess you really dont wanna talk to her THAT bad
Internet instant messaging programs don't, or shouldn't, care where on the earth you are as PNG as you are connected to the net.
As for the refresh issue, I'd think it would almost be instant. Maybe a minute or two at the most normally. Your phone does need sync on for your gmail account for the email to come in almost instant
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but the problem is, when i text her from my phone in handcent and the stock messaging app it sends as a MMS... which is annoying because when she replies it sends a lot of sprint mumbo jumbo with it
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Are you sure that it's your phone that is sending the MMS?
Her carrier in Japan could be converting the email to MMS to send to her phone, and as such, she replies in MMS.
ace27 said:
it seems like using gmail wont be as instant
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Gtalk.
I'm looking for a mod/app/tweak that will play a notification sound when an email has been successfully sent. I don't know why its not there by default but it's not. I'm using stock HTC mail app..I don't care for Gmail app and have deleted it from my phone.
TIA!
Rooted Evo - Caulkulin's 1.5
Open your mind, Quaid.
Abracastabya said:
I'm looking for a mod/app/tweak that will play a notification sound when an email has been successfully sent. I don't know why its not there by default but it's not. I'm using stock HTC mail app..I don't care for Gmail app and have deleted it from my phone.
TIA!
Rooted Evo - Caulkulin's 1.5
Open your mind, Quaid.
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Have you had an issue of emails not being sent? Everytime you type an email and hit send, I am pretty sure it sends it and if it doesn't, you get an error message. So, having a notification about a successful send it kind of a mute point but whatever.
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Have you had an issue of emails not being sent? Everytime you type an email and hit send, I am pretty sure it sends it and if it doesn't, you get an error message. So, having a notification about a successful send it kind of a mute point but whatever.
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No issues or errors..I would just like some sort of conformation tone..even though it sends I always find myself going back into mail and checking my sent/conversation box.
Open your mind, Quaid.