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Release rk-SMS Switch: Possible ‘Push LIKE mail’[Updated 27 May 2009]

Here is my latest application SMS Switch which can trigger a command line based on the SMS received.
Built with the idea of ‘Push LIKE mail’ where the device gets the SMS notification on ‘New mail’ from your email service. rk-SMS Switch intercepts the SMS and based on the SMS sender and/or message text executes the command line (such as \Windows\tmail.exe) to synchronize the emails.
Required:
Your device is able to synchronize the emails using pocket outlook.
Your device receives the SMS notification on new mail message.
Uses:
Push LIKE mail
Not wasting bandwidth for keep checking the server at regular intervals.
Saving the battery since you do not need always on gprs.
If you have multiple email accounts and want to make use of wifi network etc, then you might want to check up my other application rk-OSR which has support for command line execution.
This is just an idea and initial version. Let me know if you guys like it.
(Updated latest working version 1.0.4)
Version 1.0.4
Supports square screens(320 X 320)
Version 1.0.3
Now the triggerring SMS are automatically removed from your inbox! All normal SMS will only appear in the SMS inbox.
Now the application can be activated by the menu short cuts etc. No need to go to today screen. New option added to put it to tray or not.
Not tested much as I do not have SMS plans to play with each SMS i send to test get charged
Version 1.0.2 Hotfix
Bug fix: Please do not use version 1.0.1 which has a issue to sync up outlook and unusable.
Version 1.0.1 Updates
Separate tabs added for command line OR Outlook use.
If using the command line to invoke rk-OSR then timeout option added so that if multiple sms received only one the command line is executed(based on the timeout)
If want to sync up only one account then use the 'Outlook' option and only configure the 'Outlook' tab.
If using outlook show/hide outlook option added.
Since I am using Windows Live Push mail I am not using this application so you will be the tester!
If you like the application please show your support by donation on Paypal
Download from here

thank again great work

This is a great concept. I don't need it, as I don't push email to my phone, but I might now with this great program.

great program! if only i had data plan, so sad

How does this work?
I tried to run it, and nothing happened. I keep clicking the icon it placed in my start menu, and I can't figure out how to configure anything.
This sounds like a great solution, if it works that is...
It needs some documentation!
EDIT: found it on the today screen. Gosh, I wouldn't have known to look there!
Now, my question is how to manage the incoming sms it creates... If I receive a bunch of emails, I now have a bunch of SMS messages cluttering up my inbox. Can anyone think of a good way to hide the incoming SMS and silently delete it?

Dishe said:
Now, my question is how to manage the incoming sms it creates... If I receive a bunch of emails, I now have a bunch of SMS messages cluttering up my inbox. Can anyone think of a good way to hide the incoming SMS and silently delete it?
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Yes, I know the SMS needs to be cleared, Hopefully in the next version.

thank youuuuuuuuuuu i like it

tytnguy said:
Yes, I know the SMS needs to be cleared, Hopefully in the next version.
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Yeah, cuz that extra step sort of kills the whole convenience of it...
what I *used* to do when I wanted to save battery power, is forward my gmail to my sms address, and when I saw the first 160 chars with my sms, I'd delete it, go over to outlook and fetch new mail.
With this, at least I don't have to actually click fetch new mail, but it still requires manual deletion, so its not a complete solution yet. :/
looking forward to the next version then...
By the way, how do u get sms notifications for your email? Do you just forward a copy of your email to your sms address? Because if doing it that way, how do u tell the difference between what is coming from your email and what is just something someone sent to your sms directly?

if someone sends you an sms, most likely they will send it through a phone number. if forwarded from an email, the sender will not be a phone number, most likely an email address or some other sender info that is separate from a standard phone number like you would get from a normal sms.
I think that's how it works.
I currently do the same style as you. have gmail forward me an sms of the email message. if it looks important i go to outlook and download the entire message.

Dishe said:
... how do u get sms notifications for your email? Do you just forward a copy of your email to your sms address?
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Well, For me I use windows live so actually I do not need it . But I thought it might be a battery saver so developed it.
Dishe said:
...how do u tell the difference between what is coming from your email and what is just something someone sent to your sms directly?
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The field 'From' contains... Should have a partial email address... May be @Gmail.com(I am not sure about how you get emails forwarded, check the text message from address and set it)
You could also use 'Message' Contains option to check only if there is a predefined text in the message.
To use either of the two options use 'OR' option.

tytnguy said:
The field 'From' contains... Should have a partial email address... May be @Gmail.com(I am not sure about how you get emails forwarded, check the text message from address and set it)
You could also use 'Message' Contains option to check only if there is a predefined text in the message.
To use either of the two options use 'OR' option.
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ah, see gmail is good enough to leave the message intact exactly as it is recieved, original sender and all. So, as I said, there's no way to tell it was forwarded from gmail at all.
Maybe what I should do then is forward to hotmail or something that DOESNT leave everything intact, and from THERE forward to my inbox... a bit backwards...

yes i agree. gmail is good in that they are generous enough to convert the email address to only showing the Sender's name. normally this is appreciated, but in this case, it makes things a bit more complicated as now like Dishe said, it is impossible to distinguish between a normal sms and one being forwarded by gmail.
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EDIT: I may have a work around. When GMAIL forwards an email to your phone with an sms notification, the sms contains the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" within the body of the SMS as part of the actual text message.
The program lets you set a filter for the FROM field and/or the MESSAGE field. So using the program, you can put the filter to either one of the three "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" instead of the default "@". This would eliminate the need to know that it was forwarded from GMail at all.
This would solve the problem because regular SMS when sent does not show the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" in the body of the sms. in theory it looks like works, i havent tested it. i installed the program, can you please let me know what is the command line argument to have it send/receive?
Right now i have the command line sent to windows/tmail.exe and it just opens the email prog. I guess i need the argument too to have it actually send/receive.

NguyenHuu said:
...I may have a work around. When GMAIL forwards an email to your phone with an sms notification, the sms contains the text "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" within the body of the SMS as part of the actual text message.
The program lets you set a filter for the FROM field and/or the MESSAGE field. So using the program, you can put the filter to either one of the three "FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" instead of the default "@". This would eliminate the need to know that it was forwarded from GMail at all.
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Nice suggestion NguyenHuu!. It should work as you suggested
NguyenHuu said:
... can you please let me know what is the command line argument to have it send/receive?
Right now i have the command line sent to windows/tmail.exe and it just opens the email prog. I guess i need the argument too to have it actually send/receive.
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Try the cammand line as follows
Commanline ----> \Windows\tmail.exe
Arguments------> -service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
Where "Gmail Account Name" should be the name of your account as typed on the pocket outlook and double quotes are required.

it worked! i tested it three times.
1. sent regular sms via a IM application on PC (AIM).
2. sent SMS via another cell phone.
3. had email forwarded through gmail to phone
i used FRM: for FROM contains, and SUBJ: for Message contains. I chose teh "OR" option.
worked as planned. the first two regular sms was sent without activating the inbox syncing. the third time when gmail forwarded the email to my phone sms, since it contained the field: FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" it automtically sync my inbox.
one thing though, it automatically syncs the inbox which is great but it does so in the background so you still need to go to the inbox then go to the message to read it. is it possible to make it so after it syncs, it opens the actual inbox so you can see your list of unread emails? maybe through adding to the argument?

NguyenHuu said:
it worked! i tested it three times.
1. sent regular sms via a IM application on PC (AIM).
2. sent SMS via another cell phone.
3. had email forwarded through gmail to phone
i used FRM: for FROM contains, and SUBJ: for Message contains. I chose teh "OR" option.
worked as planned. the first two regular sms was sent without activating the inbox syncing. the third time when gmail forwarded the email to my phone sms, since it contained the field: FRM:", "SUBJ:", "MSG:" it automtically sync my inbox.
one thing though, it automatically syncs the inbox which is great but it does so in the background so you still need to go to the inbox then go to the message to read it. is it possible to make it so after it syncs, it opens the actual inbox so you can see your list of unread emails? maybe through adding to the argument?
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The problem that I mentioned before was that ALL EMAIL sent to [email protected] will have FRM:, SUBJ:, MSG in the body, whether it comes from gmail or not.
Sometimes, if I'm at my desk and want to remember something, I'll send an email to my phone's sms address. Also, I have freinds with data plans and no sms plans who email to sms ([email protected]) all the time.
Your solution could not differentiate between those emails sent purposely to an sms address versus ones meant to trigger syncing.
Right now, its not a big problem yet since the app doesnt delete the trigger sms. But at the same time, I hate having to clear two independant inboxes of new messages now (both email and the sms trigger need clearing), so I need the function to remove the trigger after it syncs eventually.
If the email wasnt supposed to be a trigger, you can understand why this may prove problematic.
hmmm...

NguyenHuu said:
great program! if only i had data plan, so sad
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I Know! Outrageous prices, to put it mildly.

xd1936 said:
I Know! Outrageous prices, to put it mildly.
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heh, mine's free. Not to brag or anything, but Sprint over here in the states has killer 3G data plans. I'm just looking to maximize my meager battery life.
EDIT: By the way, TyTnGuy, I went to set up a hotmail/windows live account so that I could try forwarding email THERE and then have THAT forward to my sms with the @hotmail account in the header, but guess what? Live/Hotmail doesn't support forwarding AT ALL!!
So, it looks to me like you couldn't possibly have gotten this to work yourself... What are you not telling us?

he said he doesnt need the program since he uses live mail which should have its own pushlike mail in wm. he creating the program for people who may need it, and specifically cited gmail in his example. i think haha.
i am still trying to figure out if there is a commandline argument that opens up the inbox after it syncs. that's a really good thing to have i think. right after you get the notifications, the inbox opens and you can see all your unread email.
i am about to set up a dataplan, not just for this but for other business, and so that is why, despite my earlier comment about not having a dataplan, i am so interested in it now haha. better then polling every X-minutes indeed.

sorry to bring this back up. anyone happen to know the command line argument to open up inbox?
this is the current argument that makes it sync when you get a sms notification: service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
that works fine, but it does so in the background. I was hoping there is more to the argument where after it syncs it opens the inbox for you. or it open inbox then sync is fine too

NguyenHuu said:
sorry to bring this back up. anyone happen to know the command line argument to open up inbox?
this is the current argument that makes it sync when you get a sms notification: service "Gmail Account Name" -sync
that works fine, but it does so in the background. I was hoping there is more to the argument where after it syncs it opens the inbox for you. or it open inbox then sync is fine too
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I am working on a next version I will do something to support the above request.

Text Messaging Over Internet

I have unlimited internet for my HTC Vogue, but no free text messaging. Does anyone know of a program that lets you send text messages over the internet instead of as a text message? I know there are websites that do this, but they're kinda annoying to use. I'm on Bell too if thats important.

Buy a $5 text messaging package But seriously it’s probably going to be a bigger pain to jump through those kinds of hoops then it’s worth. What if someone text messages you? It will come in as a regular text message, it will not get routed through the Internet even if you send your original txt through some website or via some special software.
I use OctroTalk as my XMPP client (jabber/Google Talk) to get connected to Google Talk.

You can use AIM. I'm not sure if it sends SMS to out of the US though, but if they are in the US just do +1(number)

It may be possible, but I haven't seen this. SMS is huge these days, so I'm sure carriers try to prevent this from happening since they probably make a good deal of money with these text packages.
I do know however, that when I used to use the VZAccess Manager to tether my phone, I could sends SMS. I didn't have a text plan, since it was just a USB modem, turns out the text would take away from my allowed data usage of 5GB. I kept asking the rep how it was possible, but of course she had no idea.
Either way, just spend the small amount of money for the text, I'm sure you get a bunch for about $5.

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SMS is huge these days
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SMS is really very useful. It’s like IM everywhere all the time. The new ROM from Bell Mobility for the Vogue has threaded SMS which makes it just like having an IM app.
I also have various RAID arrays and environmental monitors (temp, humidity, etc) in server rooms across the GTA that will SMS me when something goes wrong. It’s such a great way for me to add value to the services I offer my customers. I can walk in their front door because something is wrong before they even know there is a problem.
The Fish

Text messaging over the Internet is trivial. All you have to do is send an email to the carrier's EMAIL/SMS gateway. The tricky thing of course is that you need to know the carrier of the recipient and the carrier's gateway. There are lists of these things on the Internet. For example, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateway
Just a few are:
Verizon: [email protected]
Sprint: [email protected]
Tmobile: [email protected]
AT&T/Cingular: [email protected]
Using any decent email client to send the email. Limit the entire text to 160 characters. The other issue is what you put down as a reply address, your email address or your phone's address (which is just like that listed above). That would depend on whether you *really* don't want to RECEIVE replies by SMS either.
If you don't know the recipient's carrier, you can try the service TELEFLIP.COM. Send the textmsg email to:
[email protected]
and it will figure out the carrier for you. It mostly works, but isn't 100%.
Oh, and there are also analogous carrier email gateways for MMS (picture msgs). They are also listed in the link above. For example, for Sprint, send the email with the pic attached to:
[email protected]

awesome, thanks.
that's exactly what I was hoping for.
I know it's only $5, but I'm pretty cheap

Send email............

Can you send to an email account using SMS?
everytime I try I get the error
"Cannot recognize one or more recipients or the address is not valid. Would you like to send the message anyway?"
"Yes or No"
I click "Yes"
and get
"The text message account cannot be used to send email messages"
The reason I am needing to do this, is because my mail servers at work are blocking my MMS mails, but my text messages get through fine, if I reply to one.

Query-Why cant you just send regular emails to your work? Do they HAVE to be texts?

ashasaur said:
Query-Why cant you just send regular emails to your work? Do they HAVE to be texts?
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I had them "White list" my email account, because 1st it was being blocked because it was all [email protected]. NOW it is being blocked because when you send an MMS message from T-mobile, it attaches GIFs, so the spam blocker don't like that, and still blocks it, but the spam blocker will allow my text messages to come through.
I can't send an actual email because I don't have data on my account.

Alright, well the simple solution that I see it to get just some kinda regular free email adress from somewhere, or use one that you got. The way that T-Mobile's MMS stuff works is just how you described it, they attach GIFs to the messages when you send them, whether they where there or not.
I would just get a Live or AOL email adress and send them that way.

i send emails threw MMS, i dont put a pic in but i type my message were its says "type here" n they get it and are also able to replay.....give that a shot

gplock said:
i send emails threw MMS, i dont put a pic in but i type my message were its says "type here" n they get it and are also able to replay.....give that a shot
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Right, that's what I do.

ashasaur said:
I would just get a Live or AOL email adress and send them that way.
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Explain please?
I have a Gmail account that forwards to my phone..........but how can I send through that account since I dont have the data plan?

AHA!!! Therin lies your problem! I did not know that you didnt have a data plan! Well, I just did a little bit of research, the those GIFs that are attached to each of your messages is T-Mobile branding, which I beleive is tied to the T-Mobile ROM.
Which ROM are you using? If it is the official T-Mobile one, than I would suggest trying a cooked ROM from here and seeing what happens.

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AHA!!! Therin lies your problem! I did not know that you didnt have a data plan! Well, I just did a little bit of research, the those GIFs that are attached to each of your messages is T-Mobile branding, which I beleive is tied to the T-Mobile ROM.
Which ROM are you using? If it is the official T-Mobile one, than I would suggest trying a cooked ROM from here and seeing what happens.
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I am, using a T-mobile ROM, however, I had a CECT P168 and it also sent them as well, So I am wondering if T-mobile's server attaches them

Address Book Glitch?

I have had my EVO for about 2 weeks (came from a Blackberry) and noticed something odd in the address book contacts.
For every phone number within the contacts, it gives you the option to send a message. It gives you this option even if it is not a mobile number. Can this be fixed? Is there another way to store contacts within Android - because several times I've pressed the wrong number to send a message to without realizing it and then get a message of course saying they never received the message (because it was sent to their landline or fax).
Thanks in advance for your help in this matter -
Sincerely,
Kevin
twitter.com/kstagg

This is not a glitch. Sprint offers text to landline. Edit: NVM it does not cost extra
http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popups/pop-txt2landline.html
Solution, dump the default messaging app get handcent and turn on the handcent option that only shows mobile numbers. Now when you want to type a new message make sure you go into handcent find the person there and it wont' show anything but their mobile.

many thanks...
...but was hoping that rather than a purely SMS app that there was a replacement address book app. Is there such a thing? Something with all the functionality of the default address book?
I have a gmail account - is there a google option for this? Please forgive noob question as I'm very new to android and am trying to figure this all out.
Many thanks bud.

kstagg said:
...but was hoping that rather than a purely SMS app that there was a replacement address book app. Is there such a thing? Something with all the functionality of the default address book?
I have a gmail account - is there a google option for this? Please forgive noob question as I'm very new to android and am trying to figure this all out.
Many thanks bud.
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No the address book will let you send text messages to any number. You either need to be more careful when choosing a number there to text, or instead go to your text message app and initiate new messaged through there.

Wifi Texting?

Are there any apps for the HD2 where you can text over wifi?

I think your best option would be to download AIM for Windows Mobile (it's in the marketplace and it's free) or a IM client that supports AIM. Then go to aim.com to create an account, launch the AIM or IM client program, sign in, add your friend's/family's number (including area code), and talk away! Be sure to tell them who you are since the text message that they will be receive will show your screen name (unless you use your name as your screen name). Hope this helps

atn_chargers said:
I think your best option would be to download AIM for Windows Mobile (it's in the marketplace and it's free) or a IM client that supports AIM. Then go to aim.com to create an account, launch the AIM or IM client program, sign in, add your friend's/family's number (including area code), and talk away! Be sure to tell them who you are since the text message that they will be receive will show your screen name (unless you use your name as your screen name). Hope this helps
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Ive already done this, but thanks anyway!

soopahsteve said:
Ive already done this, but thanks anyway!
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So it doesn't work? Or are you just looking for an alternative option?

soopahsteve said:
Ive already done this, but thanks anyway!
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So it doesn't work? Or are you just looking for an alternative option?

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So it doesn't work? Or are you just looking for an alternative option?
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I think hes after something that will let you send a SMS over wifi for free, but it will be revieved by the other person as a normal SMS.
However, i might be wrong

lonelykatana said:
I think hes after something that will let you send a SMS over wifi for free, but it will be revieved by the other person as a normal SMS.
However, i might be wrong
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AIM let's you send SMS over wifi for free. When the other person receives the text, it will just say "Sent from AIM (Screen name)". Although one problem that comes to mind would be teh fact that the other person won't be able to send him a SMS unless he is logged in? Or it might show up later when he signs in. But it would definitely not notify him automatically that he has an incoming message unless he is logged in.

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AIM let's you send SMS over wifi for free. When the other person receives the text, it will just say "Sent from AIM (Screen name)". Although one problem that comes to mind would be teh fact that the other person won't be able to send him a SMS unless he is logged in? Or it might show up later when he signs in. But it would definitely not notify him automatically that he has an incoming message unless he is logged in.
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But I guess AIM is only available for US only and therefore this person must be looking for free services for other countries.

nicedude_abad said:
But I guess AIM is only available for US only and therefore this person must be looking for free services for other countries.
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Good point! The search continues to find an answer for my fellow HD2er.

atn_chargers said:
So it doesn't work? Or are you just looking for an alternative option?
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It does work, but I am in fact, looking for a possibly native app like text free plus for the iPhone
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I think hes after something that will let you send a SMS over wifi for free, but it will be revieved by the other person as a normal SMS.
However, i might be wrong
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Yer right.
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But I guess AIM is only available for US only and therefore this person must be looking for free services for other countries.
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No, I aim works for me out of country, but I am in the US.... Sooooooooooo.

Some email accounts support this too. I know I've received SMS from att.net and yahoo.com users and was able to reply via SMS to them. Google also supports SMS via google talk worldwide.

Phantoms said:
Some email accounts support this too. I know I've received SMS from att.net and yahoo.com users and was able to reply via SMS to them.
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Yeah, I was just googling my question, and I came up with a website that told me to set a mail2web account and use microsoft's direct push to send SMS through wifi.

I feel your pain, I assume you want SMS via Wi-Fi due to no coverage where you are.
unfortunately its not possible in the traditional sense as SMS are transmitted via the network, not the internet. So for an SMS to be delivered (and sent) you need to be connected to your carriers network.
If the HD2 were UMA compliant we wouldn't have any issues, since its not the chances this will ever work are slim/none. Sorry

Use palringo for mobile, it's great!
(supports AIM, MSN, Google Talk, etc. etc. and looks good)

soopahsteve said:
Yeah, I was just googling my question, and I came up with a website that told me to set a mail2web account and use microsoft's direct push to send SMS through wifi.
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With my provider (T-Mobile USA), I can send SMS from the web. I have to log into My.T-Mobile.com (faq here) which I can do with my phone from any wifi access point. So it's basically accessing the internet on the phone via wifi to send a SMS. On the phone I can make a link to this page which means one click to send a SMS from the web. I can also access this same feature from any computer.
Check with your cell provider and see if they offer something similar.