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Stock FRF85B to root?

So I've got a stock FRF85B setup. I'd like to be able to run some rooted apps, mainly something like SetCPU. Do I have to run a custom ROM or can I just obtain root and then install what I want?

clickwir said:
So I've got a stock FRF85B setup. I'd like to be able to run some rooted apps, mainly something like SetCPU. Do I have to run a custom ROM or can I just obtain root and then install what I want?
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if apps requiring root are all you want, yes.
if flashing custom ROM or kernel are what you are looking for, you need custom recovery as well.

I got a file called 'update-nexusone-FRF85-root-signed.zip'. Can I just rename that to update.zip and do like I was doing for the other updates 2.1->FRF50, FRF50->FRF72 etc?

clickwir said:
So I've got a stock FRF85B setup. I'd like to be able to run some rooted apps, mainly something like SetCPU. Do I have to run a custom ROM or can I just obtain root and then install what I want?
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have you unlocked you bootloader?

clickwir said:
I got a file called 'update-nexusone-FRF85-root-signed.zip'. Can I just rename that to update.zip and do like I was doing for the other updates 2.1->FRF50, FRF50->FRF72 etc?
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+1... thanks

clickwir said:
I got a file called 'update-nexusone-FRF85-root-signed.zip'. Can I just rename that to update.zip and do like I was doing for the other updates 2.1->FRF50, FRF50->FRF72 etc?
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If that is the (about)530KB update then you can do it that way if you want to go the long route.
You can get the already rooted custom ROMS like kang-o-rama frf85b final and flash them through custom recovery. Then you will be on 85b.
Also, here is the full update from 2.1. It took me from t-mobile stock 2.1 (edr79) to frf85b, but it works from most ROMS. This one you change to update.zip and go through stock recovery...If you haven't received it yet OTA.
Post #291
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712902&page=30

fineiwill89 said:
have you unlocked you bootloader?
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No I have not. It's stock except for I've applied the google provided updates as they came out.
@adambenjamin The file I have is 2.9MB. How is it the long route?
My current understanding is I just rename this to update.zip, reboot into stock recovery, apply and reboot. There's more to it maybe? I think this is the one provided by Lox...? maybe.

Yes just rename update.zip with astro and boot into recovery just like the manual update process.

Well I tried it. Apparently there's more to it.
I got an error saying it's not a signed update. So I posted in the thread in the DEV section about it and we'll see what everyone says. Some people seem to be saying they need a custom recovery to run this, but can't put a custom recovery on because they need root first. I don't know.
No root for me.

If this helps at all I pulled some info from this guide to cobble something together. I already had my bootloader unlocked and I am unsure if the same method will apply to you as you are coming from stock. This also assumes you use a mac. Ignore the fluff about custom radios and images etc - this guide isn't specific to FRF85.
If you aren't urgent about this, I would hold off until you get better direction. If you don't mind tinkering around with your device then maybe this can get you in the right direction.
http://theonda.org/articles/2010/03...-performance-boost-and-some-serious-geek-cred

I wouldn't touch a mac with a 10 foot pole... unless I got a running start
I'm tempted to just wait for Cyanogen Mod 6 and go with that. There doesn't seem to be any easy way to get root. It seems complicated enough that I'd rather go with a full unlock, custom recovery and custom rom.

The method in the dev section works perfect on frf85b. I've got root with stock rom and stock recovery.
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[Q] unroot help for OTA DL09

Can someone please help me out. I've tried to get the OTA for DL09 all day, and every time it errors out. I'm rooted but I'm running completely stock with the exception of launcher pro plus. I can't just flash the files through odin because I don't have a PC, just a mac.
can I just remove the SU file from the xbin folder using root explorer? I'm assuming that I can't update because of the root and CWM?

Don't you have a friend with a pc? You may need a pc if you unroot to root the second time.. I had to use adb when I rooted the second time
Rocking dj05 and jt's voodoo 5

Make sure u aren't using wifi to pull the update. 3G ONLY. Being rooted shouldn't cause error problems with the download??? U are rooted....I would follow the instructions for the leak DL09 since u will have to reroot anyway.
-Blackhole 3.0

I rooted through terminal on my mac the first time, is there a way to unroot by opening a shell through terminal again?.
my fiance has a pc, but she took it with her for her overnight shift at work..

40kalkillah said:
Make sure u aren't using wifi to pull the update. 3G ONLY. Being rooted shouldn't cause error problems with the download??? U are rooted....I would follow the instructions for the leak DL09 since u will have to reroot anyway.
-Blackhole 3.0
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yeah, i'm on 3g I made sure of that. the download happens fine, it just errors out when it tries to install the update.

Follow the Mac instructions in this thread:
http://androidmixer.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=446
In terms of getting the OTA, I read that CWM is what is stopping you from updating.

so I unrooted my phone last night and reverted it back to stock as much as i could, but CWM was still installed (it worked when I selected "update.zip" from the stock recovery) I have no idea how to get rid of it if that's the actual cause of my problems. the OTA still won't work when it goes to install the download.
My only thought as what may also be wrong is after I rooted I had installed adblocker and thought it may have been messing up my phone, so i uninstalled the app.. problem was, that i still don't see any ads in any of my apps. Could the adblocker have done something to my system enough to screw up the OTA?

thanks to those who have responded so far, does anyone have any other thoughts on why this is happening or how I can fix it? please?

If you have CWM you have to get rid of it. You do this by flashing the stock recovery and kernel from fallingup's "return to stock"thread I the development forum

Get Odin, download the official DL09 from this site and do it that way. Odin wipes CWM, and the official DL09 has the kernel, fs, recovery and modem in one.

okay, i'll have to commandere the fiance's laptop when i get home and download odin. Thank you for the help guys! hopefully after i get it back to stock, the OTA will work.. if not, I'm going to replace the phone at VZW.

b_beau_09 said:
okay, i'll have to commandere the fiance's laptop when i get home and download odin. Thank you for the help guys! hopefully after i get it back to stock, the OTA will work.. if not, I'm going to replace the phone at VZW.
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If you haven't moved any of the bloat (or have already moved it back) then all you need to do is flash the kernel and recovery found here. The links in the OP seem to be down, so just follow those and you should be good. Had to do it to my wife's Fascinate yesterday for the OTA to take

just an update, used odin to flash back to stock DI01 and was able to download the OTA for DL09. Now i"m running DL09, and have already re-rooted using adb on my mac, and installed CWM. now to move on to some of these better non-voodoo kernel's! FINALLY!
Thanks for all your help guys! very much appreciated!

do I need s=off for cyanogenmod 7?

I have ROM manager premium, and I just downloaded CM7 through it, and was about to flash it, but remembered I dont have s=off.
Also, I cannot get past this screen no matter what. htt p://img145.imageshack.us/i/20110222142411.jpg/
Any help will be appreaciated I really want to be able to run CM7

You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

epsix said:
You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.

Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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This Statement is correct.
jessek17 said:
Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.
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for short terms "s" Means security protocol. If your S=ON that means the phone will do a search each time you boot the phone on to see if anything as been tampered with. and if it has it will revert back to a factory status. Just like you first bought the phone. Which includes rooting, recovery images, boot images, engineering screens. What ever you do to your phone that isn't factory will be undone.
It is impossible to do. Because you need to flash the ROM from the recovery image. And since one you boot your phone it will replace Clockwork ROM manager with the factory style recovery image, you cannot not even get to the place you need to flash it from.

jessek17 said:
Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.
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Correct because you flashing the Clockwork Recovery image will not STICK unless you have s=off.
They system will replace the aftermarket image with the original EVERYTIME you turn off the phone.

That is the Stock Recovery. You need S-Off and ClockworkMod Recovery. And the right release of CWM Recovery, also. Use CWM Recovery 2.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.2 (Froyo) based ROMs, including stock, and CWM Recovery 3.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) based ROMs, such as CM7.
There is a special version of CWM Recovery that can manage both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs: 3.0.0.6. Search for it in the Development subforum.

Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?

jessek17 said:
Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?
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Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.

neidlinger said:
Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.
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Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.

jessek17 said:
Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.

neidlinger said:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.
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Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.

jessek17 said:
Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.
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That's kind of my point. People don't read.
If you take your time and read and do the entire process you won't have a problem. but you need to read all the way through something prior to jumping in the ring. There is a very strict set a rules that need to be followed.

Instructions on rooting your CDMA Hero with z4root

This is a tutorial for people who have trouble rooting with z4root and get a half rooted phone after clicking 'permanent root' in the first place.
1. Download z4root from 4shared. (Latest version is 1.3 I believe?)
2. install the z4root apk.
3. Open z4root, make sure usb debugging is on. (Settings>applications>development>usb debugging)
4. Click the temporary root button.
5. Once the temporary root completes, click the permanent root button.
6. When the permanent root completes and says 'rebooting..', pull your battery and boot up the phone.
That's it. You're now rooted. Install clockworkmod recovery through Rom Manager from the market or download the recovery.img and zip it in a HERCIMG.zip and install it via hboot (which is my personal preference)
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA Premium App

The first time I used z4root I was really frustrated when it got stuck on the "rebooting" and it seemed to take several tries. The key is to open your app drawer after rooting. If you see Superuser, you're good.
Also, just want to point out that the HERCIMG.zip installing only works if you're S-OFF. In any case, if you're S-OFF you don't even have to go through the root process, anyway

i downloaded it and but it refuse to let me install the apk ... a lil help please

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i downloaded it and but it refuse to let me install the apk ... a lil help please
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Allow third party apps
®patience is a virtue©

Also to add... quit recommending flashing through rom manager. Its horrible and too many things go wrong. ALWAYS flash in recovery and bootloader. Will solve a ton of flash problems.
®patience is a virtue©

Will this method work for all HTC Hero radios?
Does anyone know if this will work on an HTC Sprint Hero with a radio of 2.42.02.10.29 Mar/2010,16:02:39
I have read that people have had issues. I was also told that I would need to update my phone to FROYO. Is that true?
All I want to do is move stuff to my SD card to free up space.
Also, if I need to, can I unroot? Thanks!!
Mike

thisll work on all the official sprint updates

Unroot?
How would I unroot if need be?

mikeinstlouis said:
How would I unroot if need be?
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Il Duce posted this complete Hero guide in the q & a section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063843
From there you should be able to find everything you ever wanted (or need) to know about the Hero. Bookmark the page it's been invaluable.

hockeyfamily737 said:
Il Duce posted this complete Hero guide in the q & a section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063843
From there you should be able to find everything you ever wanted (or need) to know about the Hero. Bookmark the page it's been invaluable.
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Agreed.
#Root/Hack-Mod_Always*

What have i done!

Ive got a Samsung Galaxy S unlocked on 3 Network using Gingerbread 2.3.3. What ive done is i tried to gain access to the SuperUser account using the CF-Root method. All went well until i wanted to see if i could remove the SuperUser account because when it comes to Christmas i am wanting to sell the phone to a Friend. When i used GingerBreak 1.2 to UnRoot the Phone the SuperUser app uninstalled it self but the CWM and Tweaks app was still on the Phone. I attempted to remove the Apps going through Settings > Applications > Manage Applications but then i noticed it was locked into the phone unable to delete (FACEPALM). So i tried to Re-Root the phone using the CF-Root method again but it didnt give me back SuperUser access nor did it install the SuperUser app but the Odin Application claimed that it was successfully installed.
So what i am wanting to do is remove them two applications from my phone (CWM and Tweaks).
The Plan was to Root the phone and then install Darkys Rom since it looks Cool and Green But since ive never done anything like Rooting the phone or Jailbreaking an Ipod i really didnt have a clue what i was doing. Youtube help me to root it but then i messed it up.
Hope someone will know how to fix this phone and maybe get back on track on installing Darkys Rom

the tweaks and cwm apps are baked into the kernel.
If you want to get rid of them you'll have to flash a stock kernel

2 questions.
1) How do i flash it back to a Stock Firmware
2) How do i find the Stock Firmware right for my phone

grahamn95 said:
2 questions.
1) How do i flash it back to a Stock Firmware
2) How do i find the Stock Firmware right for my phone
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www.samfirmware.com
it has all the stock firmwares and also has instructions on how to flash them
good luck !

Well flashing the stock firmware is actually quite easy but there's loads of them out there depending on what country you're in and network. If you're in the UK I'd go for I9000XXJVQ which I think is still the latest, I'm using it anyway.
Sign yourself up at http://www.samfirmware.com and you can go in to the firmware section, then in to android and then the I9000 and there's a whole list of them there.
They've also got guides in there to follow on how to use Odin which is the flashing software, oh and bit of advice I'd go for Odin V1.3 if I were you. I've heard a few rumors about problems with V1.8. I alway use 1.3
Good news is its actually quite difficult to really kill a galaxy S so take it nice and easy and follow the instructions and you'll be fine. Anyway the best way to learn is fixing it after its gone wrong he he.

Dudes, JVR is the latest
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Sorry I wasn't very clear there.
The latest stock firmware in the UK according to Kies on my phone was JVQ.
I took it right back to the original JM1 it came with and that's as far as it went for me.

i am amused how do you try to help not knowing what is going on, thank god noone said put the phone to fridge for 5 minutes
to regain su flash cfroot for example and then via cwm this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14900939&postcount=311
but cfroot untouched itdelf should give you su as long as you will not try to update it via market - if you will lose su after that or due flashing some newb kernels use above link to regain it