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I have picked up lots of bits of information about how to maximize space issues and maximize battery life for those of us who are in love with these amazing new NAND builds....especially those of us with European HD2 phones who only have 512MB to play with
I have compiled them below for ease of reference - I claim no originiality for these ideas...I am just bringing them together...so MAJOR THANKS TO ALL THOSE OUT THERE! You know who you are...
I have already posted this on the DFT thread as I love that particular build, but they should (might!) work for other builds and I post it here for further reference as it took me a long time to sift through the threads to find it all.
Space
1. Before flashing your phone, using DFT Stock Desire, for example, you can edit the flash.cfg file and change the following line:
cache ya 40M >>to>> cache ya 15M
This reduces the cache by 25M with no discernible impact on the speed of the build (imo).
This should give you in excess of 130MB free after a clean flash on that particular ROM. Expect that to drop to around 100MB once Market, Flash and a couple of other apps update themselves.
Some NAND ROMs will not even have this as an option, and others may look a little different. You can read about how the flash.cfg file is structured here.
2. Immediate install Z4 to root your device. You will need to get it from here. (Note: it may get stuck on 'Rebooting'. Wait a minute or so and then manually reboot - it will work fine and SuperUser will now work after the reboot)
Put it on your SD card and then install a file manager from the Market to browse to it and then install and run. Follow the details on the thread...
3. Install Move2SD. You can get it from the Market. Full details are here.
This allows you to move most (not quite all) apps to SD. It is the best option I have found to move most of those awkward apps.
I have now installed pretty much all of my apps that I used to run on non-NAND builds and have moved about 90%+ of them to the SD card. At time of writing I have loads of apps installed and still have over 70MB free
Battery
1. Install Battery Monitor Widget or Current Widget from the Market so that you have a way of tracking your current usage.
2. Install Set CPU - free for XDA members from here, but also available on the Market.
After setting your Main Screen to 'OnDemand' and 'Set on Boot', assign SetCPU a couple of profiles. I tend to use:
>> Screen Off: Max/Min 245000, Scaling 'OnDemand', Priority 50%
>> Battery <25% Max 384000/Min 245000, Scaling 'OnDemand', Priority 50%
You can play to your hearts content here, but these give me consistently 7ma in Standby.
Also, you can reduced the sampling rate to 20000 and 'Set on Boot' in Advanced if you like.
3. Avoid power hungry background stuff like animated wallpapers and turn off GPS, Wireless etc. There are LOADS of apps out there that can do this automatically for you free from the market, but I have found that making sure my GPS is off (I have a widget to show me) plus SetCPU is plenty. It may work for you though.
4. Some have reported that Darkstone's suggestion makes a major difference to their power consumption:
"To fix high power drain / usage in standby (60mA or 70mA) disable 'Use wireless networks' in Settings>Location menu. You will now get 7mA or less constantly. I discovered this as the main culprit last night. Also works in other builds."
Anyway, there you go - a few consolidated thoughts - happy NANDing!
How to root Gauner HD V0.3 ? root not the same /system/...
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How to root Gauner HD V0.3 ? root not the same /system/...
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Not sure I'm afraid...have you tried it? I tried it and Z4 got stuck on the 'Rebooting' screen, but when I manually reboot it had solved it...
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isn't that the v0.3 itself already been rooted at the first place?
I installed Root Explorer and gotten root access immediately...
But can't check permission some folder to change themem or something !
When you do this
"To fix high power drain / usage in standby (60mA or 70mA) disable 'Use wireless
networks' in Settings>Location menu. You will now get 7mA or less constantly. I discovered this as the main culprit last night. Also works in other builds."
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You will loose weather on main screen. It will say "To see local weather tap here"
SetCPU doesnt work on Nand ROM..Is there any similiar program like SetCPU for Nand ROM ?
well guys i really dont understand why everybody you complaining about nand build
well my nand build is nexus one and i get 2-3ma battery drain in standby
olso the spuset in on 1190smartass
i dont want to be a smartass guy, but please ram and rom is different
ram = random access memory
rom = read only memory
when i look at the thread title of couse i think about ram, not rom... and too much thread title have that 2 things mixed in and im sure that will make alot of people (including me) confused
btw i thank you for the info
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SetCPU doesnt work on Nand ROM..Is there any similiar program like SetCPU for Nand ROM ?
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It does for me Are you rooted?
aboveluna said:
i dont want to be a smartass guy, but please ram and rom is different
ram = random access memory
rom = read only memory
when i look at the thread title of couse i think about ram, not rom... and too much thread title have that 2 things mixed in and im sure that will make alot of people (including me) confused
btw i thank you for the info
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You're quite right - too much 'New Year cheer' the day before I started the OP
Have changed it as you correctly point out - thanks.
hello.
could you help me to chose economy kernel for my device i9000.
i need more working time on my device.
thx for answers
Well, if you are willing to sacrifice some power you could underclock with Damian's ultimate kernel and as well undervolt (whatever your phone can handle)
apart from changing the kernel, have you tried tasker? this app can really help you to save some battery...
I dont no about Kernels But ive heard 'insanity' ROM is amazing on battery life without losing speed and features.
check for it under development and see what Kernel people are using with it.
i try to underclock CPU but program that i use cant use all frequency only 100 - 500 mhz.
can you give me advice what program can underlock CPU and good task killer.
i need much web serfing
elxeon said:
i try to underclock CPU but program that i use cant use all frequency only 100 - 500 mhz.
can you give me advice what program can underlock CPU and good task killer.
i need much web serfing
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as for now, try damian's kernel, underclocking setting is in the recovery menu. As far as I know, he is working on an app for the new kernel but just try version 1.1
Concerning task killers, I found out that they do more harm than good. Don't use them...
The problem with web surfing is that the display is on all the time (what else?!^^) and it consumes a lot! there is not much one can do about it...
how can i reduce consamption of display? can i change white color on black in browser? to reduce consamption of energy?
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how can i reduce consamption of display? can i change white color on black in browser? to reduce consamption of energy?
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I assume you have already set brightness to minimum, in addition you could use the app "screen filter" which makes the display even darker but then it is only readable in the dark.
Do you set your brightness to automatic ?? thats a big help
As for changing display color i dont know if thats possible, unless you can find a themed version
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I assume you have already set brightness to minimum, in addition you could use the app "screen filter" which makes the display even darker but then it is only readable in the dark.
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i already done all your advice
may be thomething else?)
i use program that control brightness but i forgot how it's called. i download it from android marke and than reflash device
and say please One Click Lag Fix APK decrease or increase reducing power?
lagfix will always reduce battery life, but the more updated lagfixes use less, but still use more than stock.
Have you got the app "juicedefender" thats a good app and i have been using it daily for months.
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and say please One Click Lag Fix APK decrease or increase reducing power?
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I ran some test cycles with speedmod and ultimate kernel with both standard file system and converted system. Therefore, I can say that just changing the filesystem does not influence battery life in any way noticeable.
azzledazzle said:
lagfix will always reduce battery life, but the more updated lagfixes use less, but still use more than stock.
Have you got the app "juicedefender" thats a good app and i have been using it daily for months.
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it's realy working?
thx i will test it.
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I ran some test cycles with speedmod and ultimate kernel with both standard file system and converted system. Therefore, I can say that just changing the filesystem does not influence battery life in any way noticeable.
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as i know One Click Lag Fix APK change only file system?
its not MEGA improvement but the donate version has more options. what it does is cuts off all connectivity on screen off, so nothing is being used when it shouldnt be.
its really good IMO, and the partner to the app is 'juice plotter' this will identify what running processes are happening when the phone is idle, allowing you to modify to save battery life a little more. another similar app which is also good but a little hard to understand is 'task identifier' this is similar to juice plotter,
it tells you what apps and processes are starting up automatically. Over night i found 48 processes happening when i was sleeping. THAT drains battery
What exactly are your battery stats?
how long does your phone last on one charge? how long is the display on? how long do you call?
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i already done all your advice
may be thomething else?)
i use program that control brightness but i forgot how it's called. i download it from android marke and than reflash device
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I like speedmod's modification on screen brightness that allows for even lower brightness than I got from voodoo kernel. No idea if other kernel has such feature.
on one full charge i get roughly 2 days.
display is on automatic and i make about 5 - 10 calls a day, and text all day, i manually push emails every few hours and browse the market / xda / youtube for a few hours a day.
Im not a heavy user, but i play alot of games ( especially angry birds ) im more than happy with my battery usage.
Im also on the JQ1 modem, if this is of any use.
If you want to use screen filter, leave the brightness at automatic and it is great in all but the brightest sunlight. I use auto brightness and 60% filter to good effect. You can create a widget, so it can be turned off if required. It also plugs in to Tasker if you want to set up automatic profiles.
Also, the Super Optimized Kernel is worth a look. Each OC/UV value can be completely customized (unlike DamianGTO's kernel, which relies on a series of presets), using the "Voltage Control" app.
I would stay away from Ext4 lagfixes if battery life is of upmost importance. That said I use lagfixes and am torn between JFS and Ext4 with 'unsafe' mount options (selected in recovery). EXT4 with 'safe' mount options uses far too much battery IMO.
JFS is somewhat unstable, and EXT4 'unsafe' can become corrupt after an improper shutdown. The battery life with ext4 'unsafe' is slightly worse than JFS, but you get a corresponding slight increase in performance. Try each for a day if you go that route before choosing, but for the reasons described above be prepared to reflash in case of disaster...
This thread will only contain detailed but simple and easy to understand information and broken english because I'm Mexican and I live in Mexico.
This is my first thread in XDA, this phone is my first smartphone or touchscreen phone I got it a year a go when It came out and this post will have all my knowledge about SGS2 battery saving tips I've got from this year.
Some settings might sound dumb, like why would you disable a core if you paid for two, and why would you want lower brightness if you have a SAMOLED+ screen which is brighter than SAMOLED HD, well those settings are optional and you have to find which ones will help you when you need battery badly for an emergency or something.
First let's make a list of all the apps that you need to use and what they will do, all the apps and tips are optional but if you use all of them you will have some amazing battery life!
*This thread only contains free apps so you don't need to spend $ at all!*
#1 Screen filter: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5oYXhvciJd
This app is really useful because it allows you to go on lower brightness than what your phone allows you to! and if you have sensitive eyes it'll help at night, when I really NEED BATTERY I lower the brightness as much as I can (Don't go too low because you won't be able to see s**t.
while in use, screen filter make the install button in the package installer unusable; if you want to install an app, disable screen filter first
#2 Rescan Media ROOT: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5hZGR6Lm1lZGlhc2Nhbm5lcnJvb3QiXQ..
This app will allow you to enable and disable media scanner whenever you want. Media scanner drains ur battery a lot specialy if you're using a JB ROM! I don't know if it'll be useful with GB/ICS because I only tested it on a JB ROM, by disabling media scanner you won't be able to see pictures or videos from your gallery but you're able to play music, use this when you really need to save battery and you're not gonna use gallery.
#3 https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5yb290dW5pbnN0YWxsZXIuZnJlZSJd
BE CAREFUL WITH THIS APP! IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING ASK AN EXPERIENCED USER OR JUST LEAVE IT!
Titanium backup has an option to uninstall system apps but this one is free, just use it to freeze apps that you don't use and are always running, the apps I disabled are:
*Maps (I enable em when I need them)
*TvOut
*AccuWeather
*Movie Studio
*TalkBack
*Apollo (I use PowerAMP)
*Sound Search
*Voice dialer (Useless IMO..)
*SIM Toolkit (I don't know if this is safe to remove for all users but I had no problem)
*Trebuchet (I use Nova Prime)
*News & Weather
And you can disable other apps that you don't use, those are the ones I disabled.
#4 Startup manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnN0YXJ0dXBtYW5hZ2VyIl0.
This is my favorite, I don't know how useful it is but I hate to have apps I don't use running or on the background.
With this app you can disable the user and systemapps that auto start when you turn on your phone, they will start without any problem when you need them!
This app will give you more free ram! I don't know if the RAM on phones consume as much energy as PC RAM but I used it anyway..
The system apps I disabled are the following:
*Youtube
*Clock
*Email
*Download manager
*Media Storage (I guess you don't need this is you disabled media scanner already with the previous app)
*Gallery
Those are only the system apps, remember to disable YOUR apps that are always running on boot and you don't need them to be running (I only kept facebook, facebook messenger, nova launcher and whatsapp) I don't suggest you to disable many google apps, I think it gives problems when trying to connect to google servers (NOT SURE) disable them if you want and if it give you any problem just enable them again.
#5 FastDormancy Toggle: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...W5tb3JhbC5mYXN0ZG9ybWFuY3l0b2dnbGUuaTkzMDAiXQ..
First do a google search and check if your carrier supports FD, my carrier doesn't support it so I disabled it and you can uninstall this app after disabling it if you want.
#6 AdFree: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5iaWd0aW5jYW4uYW5kcm9pZC5hZGZyZWUiXQ..
This app gets rid of the annoying ads, they consume battery because they use 3G to load and they're annoying anyway, just install it and after it downloads the host files and installs them you can uninstall this app if you want, if you start to get Ads again just install it again and update the host files and uninstall or you just can keep it and let it download the new host files.
#7 GetRIL: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zaWJib3IuZ2V0cmlsIl0.
Some users have better batterylife after matching their RIL with the current modem, you can uninstall this app after installing the right RIL but I think the RIL will keep changing everytime you flash a new ROM. This app is supposed to keep you away from RIL crashes, try it. and uninstall after using it.
Ok that's it now let's move to the tips, some of them might have you tired already but I'll put them for the new users.
#1 If you're not gonna browse, use facebook or any app that requieres 3G just disable it, I have 2G most of the time because I only use whatsapp and gtalk the most.
#2 Disable WiFi, GPS, Bluetooth and Sync if you're not using it.
#3 Disable google now (It improves battery a lot according to some users)
#4 If you're lazy to control your brightness just set it automatic, I use the notification bar slide brightness from CM10 and I always have it really low.
#5 Try not to have too many root apps running on start up because SU makes the phone laggy when it tries to enable too many root apps.
#6 If you have a weather app set "refresh manualy"
#7 If for some reason after using all the apps from above you still have unwanted apps running just stop them manualy, I check running apps really often and stop them.
#8 Some people have better battery life with different modems, I always use stock modems so try different modems and check which one suits you better
#10 Don't let your phone charging overnight
#11 If you're REALLY need battery and you're on a trip only listening music with the screen off, set your CPU to 200 Mhz or 500 Mhz if you want, Music player is a light app but some music players keep going from 100-200 mhz to 800-1000 ..
#12 Try to enable the skip track with volume key from CM10/AOKP, this will save battery as you won't turn the screen on everytime you want to skip track and If you use the 200 Mhz max frequency you won't have to go through the lag to skip a track (If your galaxy lags a lot at 200 Mhz, some phones don't lag that much at that frequency)
#13 Disable BLN
#14 If you're not using the internet at all put flight mode
#15 Use dark or black wallpapers and themes, our SAMOLED+ Screen saves energy if you use black/dark themes/wallpapers
#16 If you have facebook and you need more battery try to log off your facebook and facebook messenger, it'll save you some battery (credits to Obagleyfreer for this tip)
Now let's get into the ROMs and Kernel subject.
I'm using Dorimanx 7.3 and I'm using JellyBam ROM at the moment but I change ROMs really often, I think JellyBam has vsync enabled so I guess a ROM without vsync and Dorimanx 7.3 will have better batterylife.
ExTweaks settings:
Easy.. Just go to recovery and go into specific kernel options and put Battery profile.. If you have ExTweaks plus you'll be able to change the profiles from the app and you'll see the Extreme_battery profile, enable it if you have ExTweaks plus.
After you set battery profile go to the CPU tab and put second core always off if you're just chatting and listening music you don't need both cores enabled.
Oh yeah and undervolt your CPU/GPU in ExTweaks, I have CPU UV -75.
If you did a charge cycle and your phone is at 100%, unplug it and go to the MISC tab on ExTweaks and Reset Fuel Chip and charge it again to 100%, I usualy reset it like 10 times after flashing a ROM, I unplug and reset and plug and like that a few times.. I'm not sure if it helps at all but I do it anyway.
**I think some users reported that slower charge gives better battery, in ExTweaks MISC tab theres an option for charging voltages, set the lowest AC/MISC:550mA USD:450mA (I haven't tested it but I will do it soon**
I'm adding more info to this thread and giving credits in a few minutes I have to eat dinner.
As I explained I'm from Mexico and this is my first help/guide thread in XDA, If you liked how I shared all my knowledge and want to help me with a donation feel free to do it, I'm from Mexico as some of you know this country is really poor and even 30 cents or 1 USD will help me, 1 USD is like 13 mexican pesos.. feel free to donate if you want, any amount will do fine.
Ok after trying to discharge my phone using Max brightness, both cores enabled, screen on all time, PowerAMP on speakers all the time with max volume, 1.5Ghz, Extreme_Perfomance profile I got 3 hours 30 mins screen time.. I couldn't take a screenshot cause I took too long to take it and I had media disabled Now I'm going to try with my settings and post the results! Please if you tried my guide and got amazing battery life post a screenshot of your battery graph and screen on time or tell us the results!
Mexico loves xda <3
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Great! Thank you!! I'll try it all!
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Great! Thank you!! I'll try it all!
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Thanks If you have any question feel free to ask, I'll add a FAQ question and more details to the thread if needed, this is my first thread and I'm really noob at this I hope you guys help me to make this thread perfect and maybe even get sticky! This ALL you need for good battery life, I forgot some stuff but I'll add it once I remember it xD
I need enable the other CPU core
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Mervingio said:
I need enable the other CPU core
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What do you mean? Both cores will run on your Galaxy when you need them but the second core isn't enabled all the time, only when you need it.
Great instructions.I am using JellyBam ROM 20121022 – i9100 daily [OUT DA SPACE REL] with siyah v5.0b1
Well i underclocked my device to 100-500 mhz with 2 cores running all the time... voltages as low a i can... gpu 40 66 100 mhz... the only thing i took from this thread is the screen filter,thanks for that! now i usually get 7 hours screen time 2 days running
Elistheman said:
Well i underclocked my device to 100-500 mhz with 2 cores running all the time... voltages as low a i can... gpu 40 66 100 mhz... the only thing i took from this thread is the screen filter,thanks for that! now i usually get 7 hours screen time 2 days running
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Your welcome You should try the startup manager to get rid of the apps that auto start!
A handy tip to help battery life is remove Facebook app. It is a HUGE battery drain.
The best thing to do is to log onto the Facebook Mobile site then when you're on the homepage just save as a bookmark.
Now you can add the bookmark to your home screen as an icon.
It's just like Facebook app only faster, less bugs and battery friendly
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A handy tip to help battery life is remove Facebook app. It is a HUGE battery drain.
The best thing to do is to log onto the Facebook Mobile site then when you're on the homepage just save as a bookmark.
Now you can add the bookmark to your home screen as an icon.
It's just like Facebook app only faster, less bugs and battery friendly
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Thanks, I'll add it to the list of tips
Great post
One thing though: I would advice you NOT to fully drain your battery unless absolutely necessary. This will lower the full capacity of your battery. It's the same thing that happens to laptopbatteries. Many people let it run dry from time to time and this is one of the reasons people experience such a severe hit on laptop battery capacity over time.
This is also the reason why you phone will shut down before battery hits 0%. It's simply to spare the battery from degradation.
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Thx !
abnesher said:
Great post
One thing though: I would advice you NOT to fully drain your battery unless absolutely necessary. This will lower the full capacity of your battery. It's the same thing that happens to laptopbatteries. Many people let it run dry from time to time and this is one of the reasons people experience such a severe hit on laptop battery capacity over time.
This is also the reason why you phone will shut down before battery hits 0%. It's simply to spare the battery from degradation.
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thanks, I removed the tip
nice!
here are some more facts about different batteries and their behavior. Remember that u have a lithium-ion battery in your smartphone:
h**p://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
This supports also the posting from abnesher.
//sorry for masking the url with * but im not allowed to post urls cause i am new
thx alot i'll try it
Ingesting Read! But I suggest you to add this disclaimer to the Screen Filter section: "while in use, screen filter make the install button in the package installer unusable; if you want to install an app, disable screen filter first"
Hope it's useful for you
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What do you mean? Both cores will run on your Galaxy when you need them but the second core isn't enabled all the time, only when you need it.
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System Tuner works like a charm
Thanks for the tip!
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Ingesting Read! But I suggest you to add this disclaimer to the Screen Filter section: "while in use, screen filter make the install button in the package installer unusable; if you want to install an app, disable screen filter first"
Hope it's useful for you
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Edited, Thanks!
Hi, finally here I am with my new Nexus 4. Through different devices that i disliked (like Acer LM, Nexus S in part), now I see a very good phone that does like everything. So here I wanna clear all my (and ours) main doubts regarding settings or tools that improves it. I red a lot in this and in a great italian forum, but some matter isn' t totally understood by people so informations may be subjectives and not in the same way.
So let's start
1- in the beginning of my history with android, 4 years ago, I thougt that 3g data with a good company works perfect with normal settings. But since 2 years I'm using a good and necessary app, Rom Toolbox. It also backup apps, but here it's important the set DNS function. In the past I saw improovements tapping Google DNS, internet was fast, but now, for example, using google search, it takes 2-3 seconds for showing results.
Why this "connection freezing"? Maybe other settings may be helpful for connection ?
ex."auto apply wifi/mobile network tapped, or improove dwd speed in some way...
2- A) I see that some rom users has wonderful battery experience. I would like me too , so I tried CodeFire X + matr1x 7.5 .
It has 10 days of life, but I would like to set everything, so : I need to do the undervolt fix, in addiction to the matr1x kernel (probably already undervolted), or this isn' t necessary?
Do you think that exists better ROMs regarding fluidity/battery improovements? Here I have 0 lag, for now (with a lot of apps installed with no notifications drains).
But I'm not very happy regarding battery: 2hours 22minutes, now 79% with 38% screen (46min), 32% phone calls (18min), 6% android and 4% firefox, connected with 3g (low use).
B) I tried Easy battery saver, i'm so uncertain regarding this kind of apps, because users opinion is so differents, like the choice (EBS, JD,2xB, Green Power). I choice this one only for download and stars rating.
But also Snapdragon may be good. For now, i found on them the lolzful situations: people that talks about 24 hours improovment(!!!) and a lot of people that is very happy, but on the other side others that says that process drains a lot of battery.
I think, at the end, that probably one of this apps may be good for battery, and you? If yes, I can't understand the best one.
3- A) android assistant: I can't understand if the "clear process" widget really free RAM or not. In the past I also red that task killing isn't good for android, but freeing RAM may be good (if apps are really closed, and don't re-open after memory release).
on nexus s I loved to close all processes with it's icon on the bottom of the screen. Now isn' t included (stock included, dunno why), so I can use Android Assistant as substitute?
B) boot assistant on AA really closes all app that i tap? I have everything blocked, like 10-15 processes ,unless sms and 2 widget.
4- I passed 4 hours for understand that dolphin can't import firefox bookmarks, it can't see folders. So I tried FF for android and now oviously they sync and passed everything. But I can't understand how to set FF bookmarks widget, no apps or ways to do it. If not, it's also perfect having a FF bookmarks shortcut
I red about a way to pass them on stock browser, ok , but after I can see on the stock widget all my folders and bookmarks inside?
5- FastGPS is always useful for improoving GPS signal?
please help!!
give me knowledge!!
4 years you have been using android and you still have not got it that battery life is 99% of the time kernel related...
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4 years you have been using android and you still have not got it that battery life is 99% of the time kernel related...
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seems to be a short answer for explaining all, but it only answer a half question - 2) B
I wrote 7 questions(5 +2), so there is much more to say than 20 words.
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4 years you have been using android and you still have not got it that battery life is 99% of the time kernel related...
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Hi,
Wrong, it's 99 % user related... (CPU settings -> overclock / underclock / undervolt / governor, brightness, sync -> mails / meteo / social network, rogue apps, data -> Wi-Fi / 3g, reception, usage -> games / browsing or just sms, etc...)...
Yes sometimes a bad battery life can be due to the kernel (bad kernel wakelocks) like sometimes a custom kernel can correct some weird little issues with battery life compared to the stock kernel, but people tend to believe that the kernel or the rom that makes your battery life and ONLY this. It's mainly the user... at least at 95 % of the time.
Don't blame the kernel if you have a rogue app, if you don't know how to use / set your phone (or your CPU) / set your apps correctly for better battery life...
viking37 said:
Hi,
Wrong, it's 99 % user related... (CPU settings -> overclock / underclock / undervolt / governor, brightness, sync -> mails / meteo / social network, rogue apps, data -> Wi-Fi / 3g, reception, usage -> games / browsing or just sms, etc...)...
Yes sometimes a bad battery life can be due to the kernel (bad kernel wakelocks) like sometimes a custom kernel can correct some weird little issues with battery life compared to the stock kernel, but people tend to believe that the kernel or the rom that makes your battery life and ONLY this. It's mainly the user... at least at 95 % of the time.
Don't blame the kernel if you have a rogue app, if you don't know how to use / set your phone (or your CPU) / set your apps correctly for better battery life...
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nice!
that was the reason because i asked theese questions.... so can i have your opinion?
still need help....
Since there are no threads on how to improve battery life I figured I would make one for all the lazy people out there
Let me start by saying don't be me! Use elemental x kernel and just freaking pay 3.99 for ex kernel manger its so worth it!!! It is an amazing app and kernel combo:good:. On stock rooted I was barely pulling out 2 hours screen on time with battery tweaks and low signal all day (no signal at my school) and 2.5 - 3 hours where i had a good signal. With the tweaks i am going show you I am getting 4 hours consistently and 5 hours on a good day.
THINGS YOU WILL NEED
i think this goes without saying but root access...
Build.prop editor or knowledge of how to edit it
Ex kernel installed on your current rom
Ex kernel manager (3.99 on google play... just pay for it... no free version exists help the developer out)
Usb cable and computer or a file manager
Greenify
1). add these lines to the build.prop
ro.mot.eri.losalert.delay=1000
ro.config.hw_fast_dormancy=1
persist.cust.tel.eons=1
ro.ril.set.mtu1472 =1
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=497
pm.sleep_mode=1
power.saving.mode=1
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
ro.vold.umsdirtyratio=20
2). Install ex kernel and wipe cache
3). Verify that you have it installed by going to settings/about phone and look for kernel version it will say elemental x somewhere in it if you installed it
4). Buy ex kernel manger for 3.99 on the play store (believe me it works)
5). Open the app and click the 3 lines on the top left and click cpu.
6). Scroll down to "Governor options..."
7). Now click save and make a name for your stock profile. (yes it is a needed step!!! it makes a folder you add files too):good:
8). Download ghost pepper or butterfly. (or any other one but those two are recommended for better battery life) You can pick which one gives you best battery life. The process is the same for all of them and its very easy to switch between them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P1LXnJnUdz9cC_qpcwMpfParUBlaPbIhyLZHOWjknUE/edit#gid=0
9). If you did step 7 right you will see a folder on the root of your internal storage called ElementalX inside that folder is a folder called gov_profiles. If it is not there read step 7 again. Copy the profile you picked here and remove the file extension. (IMPORTANT!) example instead of ghostpepper.txt you would rename it ghostpepper
10). Go back to the ex kernel app and click load. you should see the profile you just put in that folder and check it. If you want your settings to stick click apply on boot
11). Go back to the 3 lines and click miscellaneous this time.
12). Set your i/o scheduler to noop and click the power button on the right. That makes it apply noop on boot
13). Click fsync and disable it then click the power button again.
14). Download greenify from the play store its free
15). Open the app (grant it root) and click the plus button in the top right
16). Add apps that are keeping the phone awake. Snapchat and Instagram are two GREAT apps to put on this list because they eat your battery alive even with the screen off.
17). When your done click the check in the bottom right.
18). Click the 3 dots make sure it says "disable auto-hibernation". if it says "enable auto-hibernation" enable it.
19). Click the 3 dots again and click settings. make sure your working mode is root and check shallow hibernation and aggressive doze
YOUR DONE! If you have anything to add or disagree with me please don't be shy and comment. We can only improve this phones battery life by communicating
I get 5-6 hours stock rooted with no added build prop lines or governed tweaks. I didn't like the performance loss with ghost pepper and butterfly, and the battery improvement wasn't even noticeable. But everyone's results vary I guess
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I followed your guide, except for greenify, see what happens.
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Casey Walt said:
Since there are no threads on how to improve battery life I figured I would make one for all the lazy people out there
Let me start by saying don't be me! Use elemental x kernel and just freaking pay 3.99 for ex kernel manger its so worth it!!! It is an amazing app and kernel combo:good:. On stock rooted I was barely pulling out 2 hours screen on time with battery tweaks and low signal all day (no signal at my school) and 2.5 - 3 hours where i had a good signal. With the tweaks i am going show you I am getting 4 hours consistently and 5 hours on a good day.
THINGS YOU WILL NEED
i think this goes without saying but root access...
Build.prop editor or knowledge of how to edit it
Ex kernel installed on your current rom
Ex kernel manager (3.99 on google play... just pay for it... no free version exists help the developer out)
Usb cable and computer or a file manager
Greenify
1). add these lines to the build.prop
ro.mot.eri.losalert.delay=1000
ro.config.hw_fast_dormancy=1
persist.cust.tel.eons=1
ro.ril.set.mtu1472 =1
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=497
pm.sleep_mode=1
power.saving.mode=1
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
ro.vold.umsdirtyratio=20
2). Install ex kernel and wipe cache
3). Verify that you have it installed by going to settings/about phone and look for kernel version it will say elemental x somewhere in it if you installed it
4). Buy ex kernel manger for 3.99 on the play store (believe me it works)
5). Open the app and click the 3 lines on the top left and click cpu.
6). Scroll down to "Governor options..."
7). Now click save and make a name for your stock profile. (yes it is a needed step!!! it makes a folder you add files too):good:
8). Download ghost pepper or butterfly. (or any other one but those two are recommended for better battery life) You can pick which one gives you best battery life. The process is the same for all of them and its very easy to switch between them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P1LXnJnUdz9cC_qpcwMpfParUBlaPbIhyLZHOWjknUE/edit#gid=0
9). If you did step 7 right you will see a folder on the root of your internal storage called ElementalX inside that folder is a folder called gov_profiles. If it is not there read step 7 again. Copy the profile you picked here and remove the file extension. (IMPORTANT!) example instead of ghostpepper.txt you would rename it ghostpepper
10). Go back to the ex kernel app and click load. you should see the profile you just put in that folder and check it. If you want your settings to stick click apply on boot
11). Go back to the 3 lines and click miscellaneous this time.
12). Set your i/o scheduler to noop and click the power button on the right. That makes it apply noop on boot
13). Click fsync and disable it then click the power button again.
14). Download greenify from the play store its free
15). Open the app (grant it root) and click the plus button in the top right
16). Add apps that are keeping the phone awake. Snapchat and Instagram are two GREAT apps to put on this list because they eat your battery alive even with the screen off.
17). When your done click the check in the bottom right.
18). Click the 3 dots make sure it says "disable auto-hibernation". if it says "enable auto-hibernation" enable it.
19). Click the 3 dots again and click settings. make sure your working mode is root and check shallow hibernation and aggressive doze
YOUR DONE! If you have anything to add or disagree with me please don't be shy and comment. We can only improve this phones battery life by communicating
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Maybe giving your app usage / connectivity usage will help too.
Are you using Bluetooth / NFC / ... ?
Facebook ? Messenger ? Whatsapp ? ...
Anyway, I will try your method and give result after the weekend !
ex kernel manager has already all profiles added and built inside about governors... he added all of them somedays ago, so, no need to download each file and put them into the relatives directory as stated
timmylamoule said:
Maybe giving your app usage / connectivity usage will help too.
Are you using Bluetooth / NFC / ... ?
Facebook ? Messenger ? Whatsapp ? ...
Anyway, I will try your method and give result after the weekend !
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I do not use Facebook app or messanger. I use chrome notifications and Facebook.com. it works great like that. Don't use what's app and I just kinda of assumed people would know how to turn all that off and screen brightness down a bit
m4ssnet said:
ex kernel manager has already all profiles added and built inside about governors... he added all of them somedays ago, so, no need to download each file and put them into the relatives directory as stated
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I did all of this a while ago and didn't update the app. So I did and sure enough there they are lol
pbailey212 said:
I get 5-6 hours stock rooted with no added build prop lines or governed tweaks. I didn't like the performance loss with ghost pepper and butterfly, and the battery improvement wasn't even noticeable. But everyone's results vary I guess
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For sure you don't have any social media apps like messenger, snapchat etc?! I get 5hrs the days I don't use any social media apps, only browser, wifi and low brightness..
is elemental kernel necessary to add those build.prop lines? Or can i add them and still get the benefit without the kernel?
What exactly are those build.prop lines for?
joakimbo said:
For sure you don't have any social media apps like messenger, snapchat etc?! I get 5hrs the days I don't use any social media apps, only browser, wifi and low brightness..
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I use fb messenger, but not fb app. Screens 33%, wifi and LTE all-day long. The only other way I get similar battery with DU. But I always seem to have best results with stock.
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Here's where I'm at currantly
pbailey212 said:
I use fb messenger, but not fb app. Screens 33%, wifi and LTE all-day long. The only other way I get similar battery with DU. But I always seem to have best results with stock.
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Here's where I'm at currantly
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Not surprised du always gave me good battery. Report back with some of these tweaks I ran that rom a while ago
tlxxxsracer said:
is elemental kernel necessary to add those build.prop lines? Or can i add them and still get the benefit without the kernel?
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You just need to be rooted
jdubya42 said:
What exactly are those build.prop lines for?
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You can look them up individually but most are for battery improvement under low signal.
Thanks for the guide. I already had this set up except for the lines and greenify
What are the side effects of the lines in build prop? (will it work in pure nexus or maybe it already has something similar..?)
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I don't know, maybe it's just a placebo effect, but before adding those lines, I had some serious drain on mobile data. Today I was quite shocked, because it drain much much less! I'll give some feedback after a while. Maybe my 5x just had a good day today haha.
is anyone using glassfish 1.2?
eLeKTroDo7 said:
is anyone using glassfish 1.2?
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My experience was excellent battery life with glassfish 1.2 but worse performance than HawkTail 1.2. Sticking with HawkTail 1.2 since battery life is still very good.
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Can this work on N yet?
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