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dont understand crappy audio

I dont understand it.. samsung sells video cameras ... if they sold one with the crapy audio of our phone no one would buy it and they wouldnt sell any.
So they know how to record acceptable audio.. Why cannot they tweek the audio settings when you start camera to record acceptable audio (assuming they need to be different than for a phone) and change back when exiting/using phone?

What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.

andrewluecke said:
What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.
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It's way too sensitive... I recorded a concert (and a drive in teh car) and the audio was crap. Distorted in the car, unbearable in concert (way distorted/nosiy... literally couldn't hear the actual music).
Saw other videos with phones and they were MUCH better (audio wise). And no, it wasn't an extremely loud concert.

I think the audio is really good for a phone this size. Are you comparing it to a bose system or what? Lol
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I had the same problem with Omnia HD. The sound of videos was so poor too. It was resolved by firmware update, where the audio codec was updated.
Anyone knows if exists any firmware with an acceptable sound quality of recorded videos on i9000??
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Playback is great, it is the recording that is a bit crazy, the mic is super sensitive.. hopefully they can adjust this in a firmware.

True i was in rally few days ago and recorded some videos from there , video quality was awesome but sound was terrible. Too sensitive mic!

Impressed by 720p capture, very disappointed with the audio.
Case in point: Recording as of today: youtube.com/watch?v=oQPov5mUTm8
not loud inside at all, just some general background noise.
Using latest official firmware from Samsung JG4 (Optus Aus)

It has one mic, designed for minimising out ambient noise during a phone call, you can't really expect it to be good at recording a concert.

Bs my kids 5800 an my wives n 85 and other Nokia phones all recorded acceptable audio.
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OP, your meaning of "audio" should be more carefully explained.
DO you mean:
1) Audio playback?
or
2) Audio recording?
My guess is #2. Yes, the microphone is quite sensitive. There were tons of people using the Samsung Omnia ( the prior generation android smartphone) who complained about the microphone NOT being sensitive enough. So Samsung decided to make the mic more sensitive.

Poor video recording :(

I really love the phone and especially its photo capabilities.
Yet the video lags while recording are really bad.
Here a random unedited testvideo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NbXSOsVaE0
At the end theres no sound which probably results from the freezing where no sound is recorded.
Therefore the video is longer than the recorded sound.
I just checked and firmware is up to date, battery was full & taskkiller emptied RAM before recording.
Hope there is a fix incoming

Turn off image stabilizor in video mode & try again

Mano1982 said:
Turn off image stabilizor in video mode & try again
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Its turned off already
Probably cuz I set it to scene: landscape

kiyu727 said:
Its turned off already
Probably cuz I set it to scene: landscape
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Oh Ok i don't make videos, so i m not sure... Just tested video capturing 2 minurtes after turn off image stabilizor & it was fine.. But i had all other settings default

there is a known bug in the video recording of the arc, check some other threads on here. It has been reported to S.E so hopefully they will release a patch to solve the problem.

Is the sound on playback alot better than the X10? Because the X10 sounds pretty damn bad! Like im in a tin can.
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
Is the sound on playback alot better than the X10? Because the X10 sounds pretty damn bad! Like im in a tin can.
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I recorded yesterday some concert fragments and I must say the sound is very good IMO.

doministry said:
I recorded yesterday some concert fragments and I must say the sound is very good IMO.
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Did you own an X10 before to make that comparison?
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I took a test video and it looks and sounds just fine to me. Mind you, I don't have a billion apps running in the background either.
P.S. The stabilization is ON

mtechfan said:
I took a test video and it looks and sounds just fine to me. Mind you, I don't have a billion apps running in the background either.
P.S. The stabilization is ON
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Sounds and looks good. Nice dog btw!
Ps. Is it better to use image stabilization when video recording? I know its bad for photos, but didnt really know about video.
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
Sounds and looks good. Nice dog btw!
Ps. Is it better to use image stabilization when video recording? I know its bad for photos, but didnt really know about video.
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Thanks!
Well, with stabilization on you get distortion as the frame moves, but it's hardly noticeable. Beats a jerky video.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Did you own an X10 before to make that comparison?
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No. When I had X10 for a moment I didn't record any video.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Sounds and looks good. Nice dog btw!
Ps. Is it better to use image stabilization when video recording? I know its bad for photos, but didnt really know about video.
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Why image stabilization is bad for images?

doministry said:
Why image stabilization is bad for images?
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It destroys the image with to much compression. Usually ends up with a more blurry pic.
But im speaking from the Xperia X10, not the Arc. But I could only assume its the same as of now.

ive just replaced the memory card on my arc to a 16gb kingston class 4.....seems marginally better with regards to video stutter...need to run a few more tests first though.

kiyu727 said:
I really love the phone and especially its photo capabilities.
Yet the video lags while recording are really bad.
Here a random unedited testvideo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NbXSOsVaE0
At the end theres no sound which probably results from the freezing where no sound is recorded.
Therefore the video is longer than the recorded sound.
I just checked and firmware is up to date, battery was full & taskkiller emptied RAM before recording.
Hope there is a fix incoming
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Yeah that a **** video dude..I ve got the same problem..The video lags a lot..I dont know whether there is a solution..hopefully a 3rd party app??

My mum told me to record my little brother's rehearsal for the regional artistic cycling tournament (he got silver btw ) cuz she was at work .The vid lagged so badly, also with the 5 sec freezing and some random 1 sec freezing. The whole performance is only about 10 min. I tried with and without image stabilization and some other settings as I was desperate to get it recording. In the end I asked my brother to do it again and used the milestone(Droid) from the coach to record it.
I have the fragments of the recording on my arc if anyones interested
Not that I care much of the performance as its his first year, but my mum was angry and laughing at my phone.
Bottom line: Awesome cam but useless videorecording.

Sony should come up with something..Video recording is ****.. :S

Audio capture in loud environment, Horrible!

The SIII for U.S variants has the S4 DAC. I recorded a video in an indoor concert/club recently and the audio quality sucks! There is too much bass in the audio making it crack/distort beyond! Is there any type of way to reduce mic gain? Has anyone tried recording with the headset plugged in? I heard that reduces the bass level a bit...
Voodoo will come to the SIII, but I hope it will come to the U.S models since it doesn't have Wolfson.

Try the LGcamera app, it's got a video recording feature that allows you to decide which microphone(s) and bit rates you want to use. Experiment with it

Gadgetz said:
Try the LGcamera app, it's got a video recording feature that allows you to decide which microphone(s) and bit rates you want to use. Experiment with it
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Do I set the mic to microphone, default or camcorder? They all sound the same. Haven't tested in loud environment though...
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contentryder said:
The SIII for U.S variants has the S4 DAC. I recorded a video in an indoor concert/club recently and the audio quality sucks! There is too much bass in the audio making it crack/distort beyond! Is there any type of way to reduce mic gain? Has anyone tried recording with the headset plugged in? I heard that reduces the bass level a bit...
Voodoo will come to the SIII, but I hope it will come to the U.S models since it doesn't have Wolfson.
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Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.
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Galaxy S with voodoo sound! Not only concerts, but maybe clubs etc
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contentryder said:
Do I set the mic to microphone, default or camcorder? They all sound the same. Haven't tested in loud environment though...
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I'm not too sure, try it in the different configs and see which sounds the best for you. I haven't tried it myself but heard it helps with the issue you brought up.

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.
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iPhone can handle loud environments without issue.
The Galaxy SII also had this same problem, there was either none, or very bad automatic gain control. All loud audio was recorded very distorted. I'd love to find a fix for this!

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
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sadly the iPhone 4 sounds great in clubs or concerts
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Enjoy the club or concert, don't be a troll getting in people's way with your sub par camera phone.... unless it's totally epic
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This is an Android problem, not a Samsung one. Basically the hardware drivers are extremely primitive. I am a musician and therefore look for audio apps all the time, and there just aren't any because Android's audio is just too primitive. There is NO way to adjust the gain down, only up. If you don't believe me, Google audio gain and Android and you'll find a lot of stuff. Latency is a also huge issue, and that's why apps like Songify don't exist.
I wanted to record my band practices with my phone too. It's impossible. I use an iPod touch with an I rig mike instead.
It's really a shame Google just doesn't care about audio, ICS fixed nothing.
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sluzbenik said:
This is an Android problem, not a Samsung one. Basically the hardware drivers are extremely primitive. I am a musician and therefore look Ford audio apps all the time, and there just aren't any because Android's audio is just too primitive. There is NO way to adjust the gain down, only up. If you don't believe me, Google audio gain and Android and you'll find a lot of stuff. Latency is a huge issue, and that's why apps like Songify don't exist.
I wanted to record my band practices with my phone too. It's impossible. I use an iPod touch with an I rig mike instead.
It's really a shame Google just doesn't care about audio, ICS fixed nothing.
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All this is true
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Goodbye, girl.
I recorded some footage of "Squeeze" playing the other night in Westbury, NY.
wow.. i can't post a link to youtube. I love this board as a resource, but I don't know how I'll ever be able to participate with all of these rules!!!
ANYWHO, the sound quality is amazing to me and if anyone knows of a good way for me to share it with everyone please let me know! also, these captchas are impossible.

sluzbenik said:
This is an Android problem, not a Samsung one. Basically the hardware drivers are extremely primitive. I am a musician and therefore look for audio apps all the time, and there just aren't any because Android's audio is just too primitive. There is NO way to adjust the gain down, only up. If you don't believe me, Google audio gain and Android and you'll find a lot of stuff. Latency is a also huge issue, and that's why apps like Songify don't exist.
I wanted to record my band practices with my phone too. It's impossible. I use an iPod touch with an I rig mike instead.
It's really a shame Google just doesn't care about audio, ICS fixed nothing.
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Hmm I see songify in the play store? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smule.songify&hl=en
Also, that new Nokia pureview phone has an amazing camcorder. There was a video of a concert recorded with that phone and it looks and sounds amazing.

Milk Tea said:
Have you ever recorded audio in a loud club/concert which did NOT have clipping and distortion? If so, I'd love to know what device it was.
A bit off topic of your use case, but I've always been of the opinion that shows are loud to prevent piracy of the show, because being up front it's more than loud enough to damage your hearing.
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Stock DROIDx had a concert mode and it worked very well
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maybe someone can import the camera apk from the droidx...

Video Recording Test With a Jet Fly By

Just picked up this phone a week ago and I was very sceptical at first. Being a long time Samsung user and a fan of TW I'd thought I couldn't get used to the Sense..
But the phone is still in my hands. Not because of battery life, or screen. But because of the amazing sound out of those tiny speakers. Today I went to a local air show and thought I'd see how the mic's would enjoy some extreme loud scenarios.
As you will here, the One does exceptionally well. I've taken many cell phones to concert events and hockey games that just can't record properly when under anything loud.
This is also by far the loudest I have ever recorded a video before. The video does not do it justice. A F-18 flying that close, I can't describe it. You can feel it in your chest.
Anyways, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VeKXztMeo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Wow.... I have recorded airshows with a camcorder that doesn't have the audio quality of that video
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WOW!!! I told people who were worried about having a bad mic on this phone to record a jet (in the general forum somewhere), would never have guessed that it would turn out sooo AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing
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Awesome. Guess that dual membrane mic is a heavy hitter . can't believe how great that sounds. Concert recorders will love this phone
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I have some great recordings too. Best phone ever.
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Crystal clear. I really haven't record any video on the phone but taken lots of pictures and watch movies on it.
I had the dark night rises gassing on the phone and everyone wanted to see
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dtblair24 said:
... Concert recorders will love this phone
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You're damn right! Went to a Muse concert recently, the sound is just great!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQE4RFw11XM
(Video resolution was edited by the gallery with which I uploaded I guess, original is much higher quality)

I'd beg to differ. Yes, the HTC One records really loud sounds, but for some reason it sounds like the audio is coming out of a plastic cup or something. It sounds hollow for some reason ): I've seen quite a few vids of the One recording audio as well. Not sure why this is though /:

I've had a lot of phones (as you can see) and the One has the best audio recording I have experienced. My brother in law recorded the same fly by with his S2 Skyrocket and it was terrible.
I'll have the S4 soon (phone whore here) and I'll be amazed if it can beat the one in terms of audio recording / playback.
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g2tegg said:
I've had a lot of phones (as you can see) and the One has the best audio recording I have experienced. My brother in law recorded the same fly by with his S2 Skyrocket and it was terrible.
I'll have the S4 soon (phone whore here) and I'll be amazed if it can beat the one in terms of audio recording / playback.
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It probably won't record audio that is as loud as a jet plane, but normal recording the S4 seems to handle audio better from what I've seen. For some reason, the HTC One has a weird hollow feel to their audio ): I hope that it's fixable in software ):

Poor mic recording quality

I've found the audio recording on the stock video recorder to be pretty low quality and heavily compressed. Is there a way to change this within the recorder app itself? Or it hardware and not software causing the problem? Also, I notice that the sound comes out stereo, but most of the audio plays inconsistently from only one speaker.
You can see [hear] what I mean HERE.
PS: this is totally not a plug . It's just the kind of thing I'd like to record on my phone once in a while and I'd be disappointed if I couldn't find a way to improve the quality.

It plays from one speaker cause it has only one speaker....Except if you mean outside of the phone.You cannot change it from the app its fixed.

woof123 said:
It plays from one speaker cause it has only one speaker....Except if you mean outside of the phone.You cannot change it from the app its fixed.
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Thanks for your reply. I did mean outside the phone. Using headphones or playing the video on another device yields weird stereo issues. I am aware that the two grills at the bottom are for the speaker and microphone.
Might you know of a decent video recorder app that would have better audio quality?
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Try Hi Q Mp3 recorder. I have the pay version and it works fine for recording your voice etc. In the options I chose rear mic and it seemed better to me. I did notice that if you are recording voices in the background and not directly in front of the mic that the recording comes out very choppy though. On my old Nexus it was perfectly clear so not sure if that is the noise cancellation messing it up.
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I may have found the solution; I forgot that I had Jishnu Sur's camera mod installed (2.5.3). When I reflashed with a freshly downloaded zip, the issues seem to have gone away. I'll keep using it and see if that fixed it for good.