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2.1 in Q3

blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/16/x8-announcement-and-xperia-updates/
I smell "No x10 firmware update until Q3"....

disroyal said:
blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/16/x8-announcement-and-xperia-updates/
I smell "No x10 firmware update until Q3"....
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omg yeah just read this in a tweet! does this mean Q4 we get 2.2!? dammit just release it already!!!!

kmaximax said:
omg yeah just read this in a tweet! does this mean Q4 we get 2.2!? dammit just release it already!!!!
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Well the 2.2 isn't even mentioned, i doubt we will get it in this year.
BTW, great news, so we will get the 2.1 somewhere near september, not bad.

We are of course very glad to offer this upgrade earlier than originally planned. Xperia™ X10’s position will also be further strengthened through the addition of HD video recording as part of the same Q3 upgrade. A further upgrade to the Xperia™ X10 in Q4 will make it possible to connect and display wirelessly content on your television and enhance the Timescape™ and Mediascape applications.
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Froyo (wifi hotspot) hint?

Yes, read it on Easto, Such a great news And Mikrokiwi, You've a point

dlna
they mean

anders260 said:
dlna
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oh yea, makes sense
I've heard that they will skip froyo and move on to gingerbread anyway, but that is just pure speculations/rumors as always ^^

I really wish I could believe them when they say Q3...
The good thing is that we have a fairly functional Donut, we could've been stuck on a stock version and that would've been painful. When you avoid the cool but oh so slow stock apps like Timescape and add some stuff from the market it's a really nice OS.
What would be awesome though was if we could get vanilla images without all the extra stuff bolted on and the ability to customise it fully. But without root that's not gonna happen. :/

Sounds like the root news has scared them abit lol

Nice move SE
That's good to hear. I see where SE is going with this. Previously they planned one big 2.1 update on Q4 but after receiving numerous complaints they divided it into "2 phases" updates in Q3 and Q4. It’s clear from the announcement that the promised DLNA support along with other features will be postponed until phase 2 on Q4.

mikrokiwi said:
Froyo (wifi hotspot) hint?
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I think its more about Google TV. Probably u can use ur phone as remote or so.

Don't you just love how NOTHING about that small update was mentioned? Did they just stop with that one all together, or what?

great news!!! seems that SE started to listen to the market and customers. love SE!!!

so the first rollout will be september 30th! Just keep that in your mind and you will be ok!

Hopeful, but im still doubtful. Time will tell so lets hope they get it right.
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Theaccomplice88 said:
Don't you just love how NOTHING about that small update was mentioned? Did they just stop with that one all together, or what?
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* Apologies. I am aware that we haven’t followed up on the post re smaller software update that Sumit did a couple of weeks ago. We will get back to you with more info on this very shortly (read very shortly)
Wouldnt that be a little info?

At least it sounds like they're starting to listen to their customers "a little".
To survive on the market they have to provide smaller, faster update cycles. It's the new model to stay competitive. Releasing monolithic updates that take forever just doesn't work anymore because there are so many other alternatives available and people don't have to wait. They'll just move on and then all the work put into the update is wasted because no one is using your product.
So fingers crossed.

gr00vy0ne said:
At least it sounds like they're starting to listen to their customers "a little".
To survive on the market they have to provide smaller, faster update cycles. It's the new model to stay competitive. Releasing monolithic updates that take forever just doesn't work anymore because there are so many other alternatives available and people don't have to wait. They'll just move on and then all the work put into the update is wasted because no one is using your product.
So fingers crossed.
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That's not how SE thinks and works. A more obvious explanation would be the Release of the X8 , so they try to push the Phone ASAP to the market and as both Phones, with slightly differences , have the same Specs they try to get the X8 on the market WITH Android 2.1 , so they have to hurry up and as they do 2.1 for the X8 they spend the update to the X10 a bit earlier. SE learned how the market reacted to their release of the X10 with Android 1.6 and I'm almost sure they won't do the same mistake with the X8.
SE is pushing new Models to the market very quick and they want to sell them all. When we get 2.1 we can be happy because i don't see a further Release of 2.2 or higher for the X10 , this will be exclusive for their new Flagships.

All android phones shall be getting updates.
The only way flagships shall differ will be through hardware.
From a reliable source.

se_dude said:
All android phones shall be getting updates.
The only way flagships shall differ will be through hardware.
From a reliable source.
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So all devices will have outdated OS:es, but flagships will have beefier hardware they can't use?

Official update from Sony regarding v2.1 update

An official update from Sony Ericsson UK from 2 days ago:
The update including v2.1 and HD recording will be released before the end of September, and will not be delayed to Q4 like someone mentioned here on the forum.
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/21570424945

iamtal said:
An official update from Sony Ericsson UK from 2 days ago:
The update including v2.1 and HD recording will be released before the end of September, and will not be delayed to Q4 like someone mentioned here on the forum.
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/21570424945
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Old news is old, but thanks for the effort.

Good to know that they are aware of the Q4 rumours and have squashed them.
Hopefully they roll out the update in the early part of September.

ddewbofh said:
Old news is old, but thanks for the effort.
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It's not old, it is a new announcement from 2 days ago.
Someone here on the forum claimed that he has some internal information from Sony saying that the updated will pushed back to Q4 due to performance issues, and this new announcement reassures that the update will be released on Q3 as promised before.

iamtal said:
It's not old, it is a new announcement from 2 days ago.
Someone here on the forum claimed that he has some internal information from Sony saying that the updated will pushed back to Q4 due to performance issues, and this new announcement reassures that the update will be released on Q3 as promised before.
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I didn't mean old as in the passage of time but rather old as in that specific tweet had been discussed to death already. Was just trying to inject a quick quip before the hordes descended on the thread and flamed it into oblivion.

the announcement is very important. There has been a lot of rumors flying around the market. In this particular time, the consumers do need the official clarification instead of just guessing themselves. Thanks to SE UK for making the announcement again, which should have been done on the SE product launch blog.
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thanks for the information.

O Nozzz!
Without my upgrade tomorrow to 2.2 all the other kids in my class will think I am 2% less cool than they are!!
I read on the interwebs that Sony lied to me, and I will never ever ever ever forgive them. And I am going to cut myself.
/sarcasm

Was wishing to get it before school starts.. Guess not... BTW, we get to keep all our stuff/settings in the update right?

Here in denmark x10 will get a update next week, but don't know what phone of the xperia series it is
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knudsen81 said:
Here in denmark x10 will get a update next week, but don't know what phone of the xperia series it is
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How do you know?

miguelsantos1979 said:
How do you know?
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some that have buy a mini pro from telmore has got a note with it that says they will get a update in week 34
here is a link http://kortlink.dk/82tv

People make airplanes for 6 months and SE needs that time to implement OLD 2.1 on X10 device...they could build whole new X20 phone for that time.

You say "A" update are we talking 2.1 or what (Im dane as well) and where do you got that from
Oh it just say a updaye not what it is and just that it will solve known problems

NiJunge said:
You say "A" update are we talking 2.1 or what (Im dane as well) and where do you got that from
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it was uploaded on mobildebat.dk but i don't know what a update it is

damirbusic said:
People make airplanes for 6 months and SE needs that time to implement OLD 2.1 on X10 device...they could build whole new X20 phone for that time.
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I wouldn't set foot in an airplane that was designed in under 6 months
SE sure take some time, but I'd rather have them deliver a well refined 2.1 then some quick fix

beno1 said:
I wouldn't set foot in an airplane that was designed in under 6 months
SE sure take some time, but I'd rather have them deliver a well refined 2.1 then some quick fix
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Heh, airplanes take years to design, test and build. The 747 for example started development in 1965 before entering service in 1970.

ddewbofh said:
Heh, airplanes take years to design, test and build. The 747 for example started development in 1965 before entering service in 1970.
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But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .

chris_knows said:
But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .
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Exactly and remember how long it took to modernice the concord ???

chris_knows said:
But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .
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More like taking the blueprints for a 747, building a new body but keeping the infrastructure underneath while adding a fourth floor. It's not as big of a task as building it from scratch but it while take considerable time to develop, test and then finally build it. Might not take five years, but getting it done it under two would be a massive accomplishment.

2.3.4 Update in October

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...eat-news-about-our-latest-gingerbread-update/

Upgrade at a glance:
Xperia™ smartphones to be upgraded to the 2.3.4 version of the Gingerbread platform with new features including Google Talk with Video Chat for smartphones with front-facing cameras
Updated Facebook inside Xperia™ functionality for enhanced like, share and discover abilities
Xperia™ smartphones introducing world’s first 3D sweep panorama functionality powered by Sony.
The software upgrade enables consumers to turn their Xperia smartphone into a mini-mobile PC by connecting USB peripherals (mouse, keyboard or game controller) to Sony Ericsson LiveDock™ multimedia station. Connect the smartphone to a TV via HDMI to get a big screen experience.
Swipe text input - text input by swiping the finger from one letter to the next
Screen capture - allows the user to share a screen grab from anywhere in the phone

Just hope Swype will be not the only keyboard. I don't want it.
Great for screen capture.

What means
...will start the roll out during October at select markets.
Is this meaning that it will start in October on some markets and will follow other markets in next months?

tomo100brt said:
What means
...will start the roll out during October at select markets.
Is this meaning that it will start in October on some markets and will follow other markets in next months?
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....Well, yes......?

Go Sony Ericsson!
Everyone saying they'd slack on updates like they did with the X10 series is now horribly wrong We're getting nice new features all the bloody time with these updates!
http://youtu.be/ejP-zWWei3I -> Video with even more new stuff!
Native screenshots!

Its nice with the new update, I for one like the USB on the Go thing with LiveDock(TM) station. So now I can pretend I have a Nokia Communicator 9100i again, writing mail, documents and calendar tasks on a small keyboard while traveling. ha ha ha!
Sony panorama, swype and screen capture, we already have with 3rd party apps.

Wow.great.can't wait.hope no delay.bravo xperia
GN Multimedia - Xperia Arc

datagubben said:
Sony panorama, swype and screen capture, we already have with 3rd party apps.
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Well screen capture is only for rooted. With 2.3.4 for ALL.

doministry said:
Well screen capture is only for rooted. With 2.3.4 for ALL.
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MyPhoneExplorer Client on Market is also free for ALL?

datagubben said:
MyPhoneExplorer Client on Market is also free for ALL?
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But is it a standalone Android app which makes screenshots without rooting?
AFAIK it's the app which has to be installed on PC also.

Not sure why SE announces so early. Why not just wait and announce plus release it at the same time?

Thought it would be already upgrade to Xperia neo, but it seems a downgrade instead.

funkyblue04 said:
Not sure why SE announces so early. Why not just wait and announce plus release it at the same time?
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I makes sense as the new firmware is announced with new features on the comming phone models. I am sure everyone would complain if SonyEricsson had not promised to release this for the existing phone models like our Xperia Arc.
I can just imagine how the discussion would be instead, everyone complaining that SE is not delivering the new firmware to the Xperia Arc etc. It is also bad that they promise to deliver the same firmware to our xperia arcs that they include in the new phones
I am very happy to hear they are continuing to deliver new firmwares with extra functionality this frequent to our "old" arcs. Keeping even new models with allmost the same hardware specifications makes it much easier to continue to develop and improve the firmware which will work on all of the phones. Our Arcs might beging to be left behind when alle the new phone models are released with more powerfull hardware.

Raoa said:
Thought it would be already upgrade to Xperia neo, but it seems a downgrade instead.
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The camera is a bit smaller but you do get a 3D like screen and hdmi out. To me it sounds like an upgrade and the 5MP might even deliver as good or maybe even better pictures than the current 8MP camera especially if they have improved the optics as well. Lets wait an see until we see the first reviews how the camera performs.

hygge said:
The camera is a bit smaller but you do get a 3D like screen and hdmi out. To me it sounds like an upgrade and the 5MP might even deliver as good or maybe even better pictures than the current 8MP camera especially if they have improved the optics as well. Lets wait an see until we see the first reviews how the camera performs.
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The Neo V is supposed to be a even cheaper version of the Neo, with the update the Neo is better.

hygge said:
The camera is a bit smaller but you do get a 3D like screen and hdmi out. To me it sounds like an upgrade and the 5MP might even deliver as good or maybe even better pictures than the current 8MP camera especially if they have improved the optics as well. Lets wait an see until we see the first reviews how the camera performs.
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You're totally wrong. As it's been said before, the only difference is the camera. Because of the Japan Earthquake Sony is having difficulties producing the Exmor R-sensors, so the Neo V is just a regular Neo without the Exmor R sensor. It's just a cheaper Neo. There is nothing better abuot the Neo V.

Looking forward to this update, in particular the 3D panorama shot. Glad that SE are continuing to release updates like this.
Now if only they would include Smart Dial........

Doesn't seem like much of an update comparing to what we've got with the latest FW. I'm not really looking forward to seeing this one on my arc, but I'm okay with it. Maybe if they add some more features... I hope they will, it's still a month or two until the release.

sunbriel said:
Doesn't seem like much of an update comparing to what we've got with the latest FW. I'm not really looking forward to seeing this one on my arc, but I'm okay with it. Maybe if they add some more features... I hope they will, it's still a month or two until the release.
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Are you serious? I mean, you don't have to go mad about the update, but still. You can't expect a lot of new features every update... We're pretty lucky to see so many things getting added at all really. How many manufacturers add so many features to a device after release?
But okay, everyone their opinion. What would you like to see in the next few updates then?
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Xperia J ICS hope

It looks like we maybe able to get that ICS in a very official state.
|Look at the specs of Xperia J that will be released soon.
http://mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-j-st26i.shtml

Locutus5382 said:
It looks like we maybe able to get that ICS in a very official state.
|Look at the specs of Xperia J that will be released soon.
http://mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-j-st26i.shtml
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That would be nice if specs is true and xda devs could use it

Really? 5mpx camera (X10i has 8mpx)? 512 RAM (384 RAM)? Or maybe MSM7227A SoC (X10i has QSD8250)? Only the screen has same res and size. Xperia arc/arc s has ICS too, and many other Xperia line devices on similar specs have ICS. But similar is not the same and u can't take ROM from one device and put it in another just because they have similar specs. That's ridiculous, same as this topic.
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It's old Adreno 2xx so if this chip gets ics support than x10 might use the driver. It's needed for HWA
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Locutus5382 said:
It looks like we maybe able to get that ICS in a very official state.
|Look at the specs of Xperia J that will be released soon.
http://mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-j-st26i.shtml
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I am one of the owner of Xperia J phone. This is the lowest end Android phone that I have (in term of price) and I can tell you it is worth is, especially if you are going to use it for most of the time to read email and browse internet. The design is splendid and the battery life is good.

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I am one of the owner of Xperia J phone. This is the lowest end Android phone that I have (in term of price) and I can tell you it is worth is, especially if you are going to use it for most of the time to read email and browse internet. The design is splendid and the battery life is good.
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yep second that almost made 2 days reading emails and listening to music/radio

Taurenking said:
yep second that almost made 2 days reading emails and listening to music/radio
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Exactly.
Hope we will have active development and support for this model.
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Leak **** leak xperia z

My sources tell me that the Usa version of Xperia z will carry the new snapdragon 600 series !! That's why it didn't come out Jan or Feb and there releasing it Q2 and it makes total sense cause if it didnt have the new and improved 600 series snapdragon they should of released it q1 to not have any losses during all of quarter one but it makes sense why there there waiting for Q2.. whoopie .... Thanks Sony for using the new 600 series on the Usa version of Xperia z I'm glad I didn't try and buy a different phone now in quarter 1when I had an upgrade available ..
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why would only the US version of the Xperia Z get the new chipset?
your souces sound false.

Sv: Leak **** leak xperia z
That would be rather odd, if that was the case.. I'd like to see that, before I believe it. Would be the poorest marketing move of Sony yet..
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Delaying launch will only hamper sales as new competition will be out then... surely Sony never want that

Where is Spectre51.. he has a good insider to I believe

Yeah it's likely less than 1% true if you ask me. Although I would have believed it if it were samsung or htc but sony? Nah! Not gonna happen even if it would be the end of the world

No info on the different CPU part of the original topic. Highly doubtful.
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While I don't necessarily believe this so called "leak" I do believe that if we're to wait until Q2 for this phone, it should be updated with the latest chipset. Consumers don't want to feel like they are buying a new device with "old" tech inside, even if the performance is still great and it is not that old. I WANT Sony to sell their ZL here in Canada with the new 600 series, considering the new chips are available.

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While I don't necessarily believe this so called "leak" I do believe that if we're to wait until Q2 for this phone, it should be updated with the latest chipset. Consumers don't want to feel like they are buying a new device with "old" tech inside, even if the performance is still great and it is not that old. I WANT Sony to sell their ZL here in Canada with the new 600 series, considering the new chips are available.
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Exactly if they wanted to make sales and have ZERO losses at all period it would of released already globally but it didnt cause they want to make sure the usa version has the new An improved 600 series that's why its not out yet also hasn't given out any details regarding it there waiting FOR 21 to announce everything ...at that big show and they will use the new 600 series as the marketING scheme to get people to buy it.. I mean lets be total seriously here if its not gone have 600 series it would be released already GLOBALLY !!!!! It would have been the smartest choice to realease the best phone in Q1 before other great phones come OUT they would have had an entire quarter all to themselves for people to buy there phone but they can't so there waiting til Q2 when they have enough supplies of the 600 series to realease the phone with.
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gabrielpina4 said:
cause they want to make sure the usa version has the new An improved 600 series that's why its not out yet
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Not quite. There is another reason it isn't out yet but I can't talk about that yet. I wouldn't expect any hardware changes.
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They want to wait until it has jelly bean 4.2. Just my guess.

robertopod1968 said:
They want to wait until it has jelly bean 4.2. Just my guess.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Well then, sounds like one of the carriers might be picking one of the devices up after all (of course, after applying the usual branding). Good for Sony, didn't expect AT&T to pick up any Xperia's this period.
Might be something else but I can't really think of anything. Sony doesn't like making a lot of hardware adjustments (especially not internals) so that pretty much rules out a Snapdragon 600 for H1.

Ambroos said:
Well then, sounds like one of the carriers might be picking one of the devices up after all (of course, after applying the usual branding). Good for Sony, didn't expect AT&T to pick up any Xperia's this period.
Might be something else but I can't really think of anything. Sony doesn't like making a lot of hardware adjustments (especially not internals) so that pretty much rules out a Snapdragon 600 for H1.
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Now if only I can hold off not ordering a C6602 until then...
Will this be the C6606?
Spectre any ETA

amerikian said:
Now if only I can hold off not ordering a C6602 until then...
Will this be the C6606?
Spectre any ETA
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Yes but I'm not allowed to say. It will be C6606.
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Knowing the usual AT&T delay from Sony it'll probably be late April or May (pure speculation).

Spectre51 said:
Yes but I'm not allowed to say. It will be C6606.
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Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?

amerikian said:
Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?
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Nothing as far as hardware goes.

amerikian said:
Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?
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Awesome AT&T branding everywhere, if that's your thing