Froyo on my wife's phone runs like crap. This is the official update from minikies and it's applied to both my phone and her phone. We did them back to back. On my phone, I did the update and tossed it on the nightstand. On her phone, we did the update and rather than wait for things to "settle out", she started surfing the web, etc, immediately.
Any thoughts?
just do a reset....
As in, what, a reboot? It's been rebooted quite a bit.
Each phone may run different as using it after an update should not affect speed at all. My phone ran butter smooth with JI6 while others reported lag. You may want to wipe all the user data and cache data through the phone's recovery. To access recovery:
Shut down phone.
Hold both volume buttons along with the power button.
When the Vibrant screen comes up release the power button but hold onto the volume buttons.
A blue menu comes up and use the volume buttons to scroll and power button to select.
Keep in mind this will erase all her data and may or may not work.
Try to erase the cache first though(also through recovery). It won't erase the user data but refreshes the phone again. Start up may take a while though.
yeah I had done the cache and the other data wipe. I was seriously hoping to avoid wiping the user data because she's purchased textbooks from third party appstores and I'm not sure if they will live.
So the next question - If we move these apps to the memory card (the textbooks) and then tell the phone to nuke the user data, they will survive the experience or does wiping it also wipe the SD?
tiber said:
yeah I had done the cache and the other data wipe. I was seriously hoping to avoid wiping the user data because she's purchased textbooks from third party appstores and I'm not sure if they will live.
So the next question - If we move these apps to the memory card (the textbooks) and then tell the phone to nuke the user data, they will survive the experience or does wiping it also wipe the SD?
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There's never a guarantee that no data will ever be lost. To be safe and sure, backup to a computer or backup everything on your external Sdcard and remove it before doing anything.
Keep in mind that RFS(Sammy's file system) will slow down over time and is only fixed in android 2.2.1 (mostly). Your best bet would be to flash a new custom rom with ext4 or just a voodoo kernel but stay stock.
SO FUNNY YOU MENTION THAT. As of 2.2 (the official froyo flash from tmo), Clockwork doesn't install so consequently I can't make voodoo go. It's the 3E bootloader. Also I've had no luck with pushing the 3E fix whomever it was discovered. It simply doesn't take. If there's a workaround, I'm all ears. My first thought was "oh just remount it as RW" and I'm clearly missing something.
Ideas on making voodoo go? That was my low hanging fruit I was trying for initially.
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SO FUNNY YOU MENTION THAT. As of 2.2 (the official froyo flash from tmo), Clockwork doesn't install so consequently I can't make voodoo go. It's the 3E bootloader. Also I've had no luck with pushing the 3E fix whomever it was discovered. It simply doesn't take. If there's a workaround, I'm all ears. My first thought was "oh just remount it as RW" and I'm clearly missing something.
Ideas on making voodoo go? That was my low hanging fruit I was trying for initially.
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Want to install a custom rom. Drop back to 2.1 then flash a custom rom.
Maybe there's something I'm missing here, but if clockwork doesn't work on the phone, how shall I install a different rom - even an older one?
Moot point - I figured out how to get the recovery binary moved to /system/bin on my phone, but the goal was to fix the existing froyo rather than flash a custom rom. If there was a way to drop back to 2.1, I would drop back to 2.1 and then have the tmo official update it. So let me propose something...
Given that I now have 3e recovery doing The Right Thing, I would guess I need to install clockwork, grab the 2.2 Tmobile UKVA6 ROM, then use clockwork to flash that in place. Since I'm flashing from 2.2 to 2.2 and not changing anything, will her user data live through the experience or do these flashes reset the partition with her apps on it?
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May seem silly but I figured I'd ask.
If I use nandroid to WIPE the phone completely does this wipe it to a blank state including the recovery partition on the phone that I flashed when I rooted the phone?
If it doesn't, is it safe to say that I can then just load Fresh or whatever rom I want and click the UPDATE and load the new rom.
I am also running the Gumbo kernel, would this also need to be redone as well?
Apps that were PAID on the market can they be re-downloaded for free or will they have to be purchased again?
IF the above nandroid wipe doesn't work what is best to wipe the phone and start from scratch? I dont' mind if I have to re-root my phone etc.. I just want to make sure if I have to do it i am prepared.
Also how does one do a factory wipe if you have the phone rooted and a different rom?
Sorry for all the questions, but something is seriously messed up with my phone cause I can't install any apk's from the SD card and I am getting a parsing error.
-Nigel
Lots of questions in on here. If you use Apps2sd, your apps will remain if you wipe from recovery. Just about everything else is gone, but apps are still there. Your ROM and Kernel are mostly unchanged by the factory wipe. It as far as I know doesn't write anything back to the phone, just deletes a lot of what is on it.
If you want to go back to a completely stock phone use RUU - look at the sticky wiki's at the top.
Apps that are paid are tied to your google account. as long as you don't change that you are fine redownloading and won't have to pay again.
Judging from your errors....use RUU and start over. Something went nutz on you.
A data wipe clears your downloaded apps (except if you used apps2sd), google account, email accounts, homescreen setups, etc. If your apps are gone, you can open the market and click on My Downloads, and your paid apps can be redownloaded for free. Gumbo Kernel and whatever ROM you're using will stay on, as will Amon_RA recovery.
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A data wipe clears your downloaded apps (except if you used apps2sd), google account, email accounts, homescreen setups, etc. If your apps are gone, you can open the market and click on My Downloads, and your paid apps can be redownloaded for free. Gumbo Kernel and whatever ROM you're using will stay on, as will Amon_RA recovery.
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I just did a full Wipe holding down the Home and Back arrow and then hitting power.
Looks like the stock crap is all back onhowever I still see superuser permission program still there..lol
Is the phone currently rooted?
I did see the Recovery image is still on the phone which is good.
Just want to make sure if I need to root the phone again.
Thanks again,
-Nigel
I think I might RUU back to stock tonight, re-root, reformat my SD Card and just start fresh.
I've done so much to this phone, and I'm starting to see some glitches that I think I can solve by restoring to stock and going form there.
Now, if I can just remember how to run UnrEVOked in Ubuntu....
It does fix a lotta problems
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Sometimes when my phone used to act a little slow, I'd just wipe cache and dalvik cache and it would go back to normal. Now that I create NAND's every few days and delete the previous one (in case I have to restore my phone, this way my NAND will be as current as possible), I just wipe both caches during the NAND process and I haven't noticed my phone slow down one bit.
dont need to un-root. Just run the format-all.zip twice, flash a rom and reload apps.
One of the glitches is that none of my Nandroids will restore, which is part of why I want to start fresh, so I can have a fresh stock/rooted nandroid, and several of my apps aren't restoring data with Titanium Backup, for some reason.
Now for some reason, and this MAY be ROM related, my Swype stops Swyping, even though I just updated it via the Swype Installer, uhh, several timeas.
One other thing, I originally rooted with the one step root method, which kept freezing up, then UnrEVOked failed in Windows, which is why I did it on my Ubuntu, so right from the start things were a little messed up.
Besides, I can't remember what stock was even like anymore... lol
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Besides, I can't remember what stock was even like anymore... lol
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I predict you won't like "stock" ... and even if it's tolerable, the urge to slip into that old dark rain coat will be lurking!
lol... 5 mins after Stock, I'll be reaching for a new ROM, I can see it already....
See that's the difference. On the Moment, you almost HAD to restore to stock before flashing a new ROM.
Just seemed like a lot less problems that way.
**solved**
Have you tried Eugene's Froyo that doesn't brick? I once have a problem installing the first versions of voodoo lagfix do to my NAND (or something like that) being of a different size than the majority of the vibrants. The phone soft-bricked but I brought it back with Eugene's froyo and flashed back to stock 2.1. I noticed that all my stuff inside the internal SD Card was deleted (or reformatted...i really don't know). Maybe this can help you get rid of the ghosts of past roms. Good luck.
http://eb-productions.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=samsungsgs&action=display&thread=8
No, I hadn't thought of that. I wasn't sure if flashing any more ROMs would be a good idea. I'll try it though and see what it does. Thank you.
Let me know if it worked for you.
Hi,
I tried this and no luck - still the same. I wasn't able to get rid of any of the aforementioned problems.
I'm getting desperate at this point. If anyone knows of anything that could easily fix the problem, even if it carries a risk of making things worse, I'm willing to try anything and not hold anyone responsible for the actions I take...
Surely there are adb commands that can format or delete these ghost files & folders, or if someone could tell me where to go and manually delete files & folders through something like DROIDEXPLORER or ROOT EXPLORER, I'd be willing to try anything.
Again, thanks in advance!
Have you tried checking the "Re-Partition" box when you Odin back to 2.1?
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Have you tried checking the "Re-Partition" box when you Odin back to 2.1?
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Yes, I have. I've tried two different versions of ODIN, the re-partition option, I've formatted the internal and external SD, etc. This is all what leads me to believe that there are files/directories used during the flashing process that are *not* cleared/wiped by ODIN or other flashing methods. There are ghost files, I just don't know how to get to them and get rid of them. Maybe I need a Vibrant Exorcist, LOL.
Wipe dalvik cache had been broken for quite some time, actually there's been some threads about it. If you can't odin the only other option is just wipe data/ factory reset in clockwork recovery.
I've seen those Dalvik cache posts, but I must have misunderstood the issue. As far as the others, I can ODIN - It's just not wiping everything. I can also wipe/reset in CWR, but again, it's not wiping everything. Stuff is getting left behind (I can only assume) which is preventing me from doing certain things. The phone works, but certain things will no longer work - such as not being able to use mini-Kies to go to 2.2, format BOOT in CWR, can't root via SOC due to mount path error, etc.
WIPE WIPE WIPE!!!!!!
Use the Eugene's Froyo...etc. Keep doing it--it might take a few tries. Hell, try re-partition and NOT re-partitioning. Sometimes this phone can get finicky. Just be patient and persevere and it will pop into place. ODIN re-creates all software--but is pretty un-reliable for obtuse issues like yours. Just keep at it.
Get to 2.1 stock NO MATTER WHAT...then flash your choice of rom. It can iron itself out with a little sweat and rage.
i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
i think it started happening after i partitioned the sd card for those old sense roms that needed extra space.. cant remember..
but it seems like theres a portion of rom that isnt being wiped and all my settings are being carried over to the next rom flash..
how can i fully wipe my phone or get it back to normal?
this is weird, and i want it to stop. any ideas?
i just flashed back to amonra
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i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
i think it started happening after i partitioned the sd card for those old sense roms that needed extra space.. cant remember..
but it seems like theres a portion of rom that isnt being wiped and all my settings are being carried over to the next rom flash..
how can i fully wipe my phone or get it back to normal?
this is weird, and i want it to stop. any ideas?
i just flashed back to amonra
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Are you using ROMs that have Google back up enabled?
Also, if the zip isn't set to wipe /data and you're not wiping it then you'll still have all of your data.
That has happened to me too. Are you wiping sdext and android.secure in recovery. I always wipe those and haven't had that happen since I started doing that.
We're comin from a pure power source.
naw i turn off all that google backup stuff.
thats the thing, when i try to wipe sdext it gives me an error (from the last i remember doing it)
Hmmm. Latest version of amon ra?
We're comin from a pure power source.
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
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You should be wiping data as well when flashing new roms.
I flash vrsuperwipe everytime I flash, but I use Google backup, so when I flash a new sense ROM it saves a lot of my settings, and my SD-ext apps automatically appear. Good feature imo.
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thanks guise.
still wondering about other options before testing some new roms
same thing happened to me so I tried repairing sdext and then re-partitioned my card and left it ext2 instead of ext3,wipe data/cache/dalvik cache/system flash superwipe, then flashed rom. don't know which one worked but it stopped. Also I noticed it mainly happens when I flash 3.0 roms but it has happened on CM7 to
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i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
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You did not wipe data. If you do this you will preserve all of you apps (if they were not on card), data and system settings. This may work for you if the new ROM that you are moving to is similar enough. It can cause big problems if the structure of the ROMs is too different. You can end up with a phone that lags and has wakelocks (at best) or is not functional at all due force closes all over the place.
You should really wipe data as well before flashing a ROM and then do a selective restore of data on the new ROM.
A coworker of mine installed the OTA update Verizon was pushing down, after rebooting the phone was stuck at the Samsung logo.
We can get the phone into download mode, but recovery errors and none of the buttons respond. (Similar to this thread)
If need be I can take a screenshot or type out the error text he receives trying to go into recovery (stock)
A little more info i can give as is: his phone is stock rom, but I do believe he has it rooted.
I have flashed roms onto my phone (Captivate) so I am familiar with working with Odin, but the problem is that he has data on the phone he needs to recover.
ADB does not recognize the phone, but his computer does seem to detect it.
Does anyone have any advice on getting something to recognize the phone so we can pull data, or is there a rom/setting that would leave his data as is?
If you odin a rom or even flash a rom it doesnt touch any of the data on the SDcard. he will loose call history and sms history. Pictures and things will be left on the sdcard untouched.
This is the most complete and up to date guide for the fassy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
Thanks for the heads up.
Just to be clear we are talking about the internal SD card right? Not the removable one.
He is apparently mostly concerned with losing his app data. As long as that will be safe I can have him up and running in a matter of minutes, especially with your link.
NO app data will be gone as well
What rom did he have or was it stock?
when i said the sd card i was referring to the removable one.
I figured that was the case
He is running the stock Froyo rom.
Would it be possible to use Odin (or some other tool) to push CWM onto the phone and maybe get it to mount from there?
He did say Odin recognizes a device when it's plugged in.
You may be past the point of no return. Since the phone is boot-looping and not actually booting up there may be no way to root the phone to flash CWM.
Odin is unfortunately a one-way street. Its designed to flash data ON to the phone, Not pull data off.
the phone does not have to be rooted to odin cwm....that being said, op try odining cwm2.5.1.x red and three finger into recovery, wipe cache & dalvik, then go to my guide section 1, use ccampos powerwashed ed05 froyo. That rom is close enough to what stock froyo is, so it might work! Or you can try geewiz froyo also, but one of those might get the phone back up and running without completely wiping everything.
just fyi once you odin a full rom all app data is gone. I have never attempted to pull app data from the mounting of the internal memory using cwm.
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just fyi once you odin a full rom all app data is gone. I have never attempted to pull app data from the mounting of the internal memory using cwm.
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Thats why I suggested to try and flash a close to stock froyo rom in cwm without wiping data. odin will do a full wipe, so thats his only option that I am aware of.
Could he odin a recovery, make a back up, flash a new close to stock rom, advanced restore data? It would probable have alot of issues but may give him the opportunity to make a backup.
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Could he odin a recovery, make a back up, flash a new close to stock rom, advanced restore data? It would probable have alot of issues but may give him the opportunity to make a backup.
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my co-worker had something similar happen and this is what I had him do. It didn't fair too well but it was worth a shot.
Ended up using odin to push a stock verizon rom and started over. Then I MADE him put cwm on his device and make a backup immediately incase it were to happen again.