May seem silly but I figured I'd ask.
If I use nandroid to WIPE the phone completely does this wipe it to a blank state including the recovery partition on the phone that I flashed when I rooted the phone?
If it doesn't, is it safe to say that I can then just load Fresh or whatever rom I want and click the UPDATE and load the new rom.
I am also running the Gumbo kernel, would this also need to be redone as well?
Apps that were PAID on the market can they be re-downloaded for free or will they have to be purchased again?
IF the above nandroid wipe doesn't work what is best to wipe the phone and start from scratch? I dont' mind if I have to re-root my phone etc.. I just want to make sure if I have to do it i am prepared.
Also how does one do a factory wipe if you have the phone rooted and a different rom?
Sorry for all the questions, but something is seriously messed up with my phone cause I can't install any apk's from the SD card and I am getting a parsing error.
-Nigel
Lots of questions in on here. If you use Apps2sd, your apps will remain if you wipe from recovery. Just about everything else is gone, but apps are still there. Your ROM and Kernel are mostly unchanged by the factory wipe. It as far as I know doesn't write anything back to the phone, just deletes a lot of what is on it.
If you want to go back to a completely stock phone use RUU - look at the sticky wiki's at the top.
Apps that are paid are tied to your google account. as long as you don't change that you are fine redownloading and won't have to pay again.
Judging from your errors....use RUU and start over. Something went nutz on you.
A data wipe clears your downloaded apps (except if you used apps2sd), google account, email accounts, homescreen setups, etc. If your apps are gone, you can open the market and click on My Downloads, and your paid apps can be redownloaded for free. Gumbo Kernel and whatever ROM you're using will stay on, as will Amon_RA recovery.
HeroMeng said:
A data wipe clears your downloaded apps (except if you used apps2sd), google account, email accounts, homescreen setups, etc. If your apps are gone, you can open the market and click on My Downloads, and your paid apps can be redownloaded for free. Gumbo Kernel and whatever ROM you're using will stay on, as will Amon_RA recovery.
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I just did a full Wipe holding down the Home and Back arrow and then hitting power.
Looks like the stock crap is all back onhowever I still see superuser permission program still there..lol
Is the phone currently rooted?
I did see the Recovery image is still on the phone which is good.
Just want to make sure if I need to root the phone again.
Thanks again,
-Nigel
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I have the cyanogens 4.0.4 rom installed on my G1, and i was wondering, if I install the cyanogen updater and decide to update it, will my apps, widget homescreen positions, and settings get erased?
I know it's a newb questions but trust me I search the forums and nobody answers that, which leads me to believe that everything stay in tact.
I just want to know this, because with donut released today, I want to know how to update if and when cyanogen throws out another rom.
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I have the cyanogens 4.0.4 rom installed on my G1, and i was wondering, if I install the cyanogen updater and decide to update it, will my apps, widget homescreen positions, and settings get erased?
I know it's a newb questions but trust me I search the forums and nobody answers that, which leads me to believe that everything stay in tact.
I just want to know this, because with donut released today, I want to know how to update if and when cyanogen throws out another rom.
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CM Updater does not wipe, it just installs. Most likely you won't need a wipe ifyou go from one CM rom to another BUT just incase it doesn't load after say 30 mins, then you may need to wipe and reinstall. Goodluck.
Thanks for the clarification. In case I do have to wipe and clean install, is there any app that can save my phone as it is, with all the apps installed my home screen customized with icons, and all the settings intact?
I've read about some apps that do this put I think that just save the apps and not the phone state.
prash said:
CM Updater does not wipe, it just installs. Most likely you won't need a wipe ifyou go from one CM rom to another BUT just incase it doesn't load after say 30 mins, then you may need to wipe and reinstall. Goodluck.
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thepoetvd776 said:
Thanks for the clarification. In case I do have to wipe and clean install, is there any app that can save my phone as it is, with all the apps installed my home screen customized with icons, and all the settings intact?
I've read about some apps that do this put I think that just save the apps and not the phone state.
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If you are running CM 4.0.4, you are probably running Apps2SD as well. What this means is that all your applications are saved to your SD card.
So, as long as you don't delete the ext2/3/4 partition on your SD card, all the applications you download will be saved. (Even if you wipe the PHONE)
EDIT: Sorry, I misunderstood the question. If you want to backup the phone in its entirety, you have to do a Nandroid Backup through the Recovery Console (HOME + POWER on boot)
run backup for root users and a nandroid backup
because 4.0.4 is still cupcake with donut sprinkles, updating to full donut there is a very high chance u need to wipe....
all your apps will still be there if ur using a2sd
and if you run backup for root users before and after all your stuff should be fine
i assume you are waiting for cyanogens next rom before updating?
from what i have heard, you will have to have a donut rom (either the htc adp1 or one of his before the C&D)
in which case you will definetly need to wipe
backup for root is a life saver and a2sd makes it all a little smoother
good luck
How can I restore my contacts, message, apps etc... after I flash my phone with a new rom?
dannieboiz said:
How can I restore my contacts, message, apps etc... after I flash my phone with a new rom?
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Contacts - Should always save them as "Google contact" so they automatically go into your contact list after logging in on your phone.
Messages - Go into market and search "SMS Backup" back it up then once you install your new ROM, download the same app again and restore it.
Apps - Use Titanium Backup to back up the apps. Then install it again after flashing and restore the apps.
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How can I restore my contacts, message, apps etc... after I flash my phone with a new rom?
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Sure is. The simplest way is to make a backup with Clockwork recovery before you install the new rom and do wipe of data/factory reset, and all caches etc...
Once you have flashed the new rom, while still in Clockwork, goto Backup/Restore, choose Advanced, choose the backup you just made, and select only Data from the list. Everything you've asked for should be restored. Some widgets will not work on the first boot, you will have remove them from the home screen and re-add them.
Some apps will behave as if it's the first time you have run them, be aware of this.
This method makes for the simplest method of restoring everything that gets wiped when you install a rom that requires a full wipe of data + factory reset.
cool thanks, I got both methods done. gonna try to flash now. thanks
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Sure is. The simplest way is to make a backup with Clockwork recovery before you install the new rom and do wipe of data/factory reset, and all caches etc...
Once you have flashed the new rom, while still in Clockwork, goto Backup/Restore, choose Advanced, choose the backup you just made, and select only Data from the list. Everything you've asked for should be restored. Some widgets will not work on the first boot, you will have remove them from the home screen and re-add them.
Some apps will behave as if it's the first time you have run them, be aware of this.
This method makes for the simplest method of restoring everything that gets wiped when you install a rom that requires a full wipe of data + factory reset.
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Holy heck. I had no idea Clockwork had this. Saves me a bunch of time.
Here I am thinking I knew what I was talking about
dever76 said:
Sure is. The simplest way is to make a backup with Clockwork recovery before you install the new rom and do wipe of data/factory reset, and all caches etc...
Once you have flashed the new rom, while still in Clockwork, goto Backup/Restore, choose Advanced, choose the backup you just made, and select only Data from the list. Everything you've asked for should be restored. Some widgets will not work on the first boot, you will have remove them from the home screen and re-add them.
Some apps will behave as if it's the first time you have run them, be aware of this.
This method makes for the simplest method of restoring everything that gets wiped when you install a rom that requires a full wipe of data + factory reset.
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Does the backed up old data integer with a new rom/kernel though? I've been tempted to do this, but I'm worried that the data will conflict and cause issues.
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phantomevo77 said:
Holy heck. I had no idea Clockwork had this. Saves me a bunch of time.
Here I am thinking I knew what I was talking about
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Indeed, this method saves a lot of time.
I've had no issues using it, aside from widgets not working, until you re-add them to a home screen.
Vanquish46 said:
Does the backed up old data integer with a new rom/kernel though? I've been tempted to do this, but I'm worried that the data will conflict and cause issues.
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"Integer"? Did you mean integrate? or perhaps interfere?
I haven't had any issues using this method. I'd imagine any conflicts would be overwritten by the nature of restoring /data. If a rom author includes some .apks inside of /data, those will get over written. It's very easy to add them back though, just strip them from the roms zip, and copy over to the phone, then install.
I find this much easier than using Titanium Backup or some other app to restore apps and settings lost due to installing a rom.
dever76 said:
Once you have flashed the new rom, while still in Clockwork, goto Backup/Restore, choose Advanced, choose the backup you just made, and select only Data from the list. Everything you've asked for should be restored.
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Choosing data only will restore installed apps?
jfg69 said:
Choosing data only will restore installed apps?
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Yes, and their settings.
mattallica76 said:
Yes, and their settings.
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While that seems to be perfect as far as restoring (and it does restore everything.) I seem to be having a problem with it once I run my rom, I'm having issues with sms locking up and the phone not coming out of sleep. I'm using Epic Exp 1.2.02 and Phoenix 1.43.
I've reloaded and restored date 3 diff times and still no luck..
jfg69 said:
While that seems to be perfect as far as restoring (and it does restore everything.) I seem to be having a problem with it once I run my rom, I'm having issues with sms locking up and the phone not coming out of sleep. I'm using Epic Exp 1.2.02 and Phoenix 1.43.
I've reloaded and restored date 3 diff times and still no luck..
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Are you using SetCPU, while also having it set to something other Conservative mode? Try keeping it set to conservative. Also, SetCPU doesn't play nice with the Epic if you use a "Screen Off" profile. I don't have a solution other than to not use a Screen Off profile in SetCPU.
Boot recovery. Wipe data cache and dalvik (unless your rom requires somthing different) flash your rom/kernel. Reboot your phone and test. Determine whether the issue is with the rom/kernel or with the data restore. If the issue is the rom, head over to the rom's thread for support. If its not the rom boot into clockwork and try to restore data again. Maybe do an advanced restore?
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Thanks dever76 for that tip, I now can switch to nightly builds on my Nexus. I appreciate it!
i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
i think it started happening after i partitioned the sd card for those old sense roms that needed extra space.. cant remember..
but it seems like theres a portion of rom that isnt being wiped and all my settings are being carried over to the next rom flash..
how can i fully wipe my phone or get it back to normal?
this is weird, and i want it to stop. any ideas?
i just flashed back to amonra
TorxT3D said:
i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
i think it started happening after i partitioned the sd card for those old sense roms that needed extra space.. cant remember..
but it seems like theres a portion of rom that isnt being wiped and all my settings are being carried over to the next rom flash..
how can i fully wipe my phone or get it back to normal?
this is weird, and i want it to stop. any ideas?
i just flashed back to amonra
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Are you using ROMs that have Google back up enabled?
Also, if the zip isn't set to wipe /data and you're not wiping it then you'll still have all of your data.
That has happened to me too. Are you wiping sdext and android.secure in recovery. I always wipe those and haven't had that happen since I started doing that.
We're comin from a pure power source.
naw i turn off all that google backup stuff.
thats the thing, when i try to wipe sdext it gives me an error (from the last i remember doing it)
Hmmm. Latest version of amon ra?
We're comin from a pure power source.
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
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You should be wiping data as well when flashing new roms.
I flash vrsuperwipe everytime I flash, but I use Google backup, so when I flash a new sense ROM it saves a lot of my settings, and my SD-ext apps automatically appear. Good feature imo.
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bump for any other answers or advice
thanks guise.
still wondering about other options before testing some new roms
same thing happened to me so I tried repairing sdext and then re-partitioned my card and left it ext2 instead of ext3,wipe data/cache/dalvik cache/system flash superwipe, then flashed rom. don't know which one worked but it stopped. Also I noticed it mainly happens when I flash 3.0 roms but it has happened on CM7 to
TorxT3D said:
i started noticing that after i flashed a new rom, alot of my settings are set to the way i had them before. and some apps are already installed that would otherwise need a marketplace install..
keep in mind, i always do a wipe of cache/dalvik/sdcard
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You did not wipe data. If you do this you will preserve all of you apps (if they were not on card), data and system settings. This may work for you if the new ROM that you are moving to is similar enough. It can cause big problems if the structure of the ROMs is too different. You can end up with a phone that lags and has wakelocks (at best) or is not functional at all due force closes all over the place.
You should really wipe data as well before flashing a ROM and then do a selective restore of data on the new ROM.
I have a T-Mo G2 and want to keep my Froyo image to reinstall later if I cannot get theGingerbread to work right. I want to make an image file that will restore the phone to exactly how it is now. I have tried all kinds of stuff, but am not able to make the "img" file so that I ca do a restore when booting...
Can someone point me to what I need to install to do this, and if possible some directions on what/how to create the "img" or restore file ?
I would be most appreciative, as I had to reverse everything from the OTA of Gingerbread, since too many apps didn't work, ESPECIALLY the GPS!
My current Froyo is a temp-root system.
Thank you all!
Aloha. .
I would do full root via the wiki, and then install 4EXT (the full one that's like $2) - it will keep your old stuff straight
Ditto on previous reply
Root your G2
Backup all your apps with using Titanium backup
Get Clockwork mod ROM manger or 4ext ( I prefer 4ext) and backup your stock rom. You can download new ROM CM7 for first ROM.
If you don't like the ROM you can restore your stock ROM with CWM or 4ext at anytime.
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
WTF? said:
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
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1. I have had zero problems with TB personally.
2. Without it your app data is gone.
3. Triple wipe, takes a few extra minutes and makes a world of a difference.
4. Do not restore system data!
5. Check md5 sums BEFORE doing anything!!!!
6. Make sure you have a recent nandroid backup and you'll be fine either way.
7. triple wipe before flashing anything including nandroids. Preferably with different wipes aka factory reset, superwipe+ ext4, then recovery wipe!
Just my 2 cents, it's saved my a$$ more then a few times...
I know this has been asked but i am new to Android. This is my first device i am tring to root and cannot root i have tried using Iconia root and Gingerbreak. Both do not work on my device. I don't want to take my device (Acer Iconia A500) to a older android software. and was wondering if somebody can point me in a direction of a valid way to root HC 3.2, i would be in your dept.
Again i am sorry for making this tread i know it has been asked and asked and asked but there is alot of bogus things and/or solutions for older software for my device.
Unfortunately, to root 3.2 due to the new acer bootloader, you first have to rollback to an older version of HC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Not that it can be a little bit unstable, but most folks were able to work with it, and have success.
After you get your root, you can flash most of the 3.2 roms in the dev forum for the 500.
It seriously is not as bad as it sounds to roll back to the 3.01 software, root, and then install your custom rom. once you get the files downloaded, you'll be good to go in less than 30 minutes (probably less than 15 if everything goes flawlessly).
Yea I was surprised at how quick and painless the process was, and some of the custom ROMS are far better than the Acer OTA one. The rollback to 3.01 I believe is the simplest but I think I read before of someone rooting 3.2 without rolling back. It was a very complicated procedure though and I wouldn't recommend it.
yea
This is what i feared is i had to go back to a older system, but i understand and i may do it. All i need to know is does going back to the old software delete all my files on here and if so whats the best backup program to use? by files i mean apps, music, and settings.
bfoster said:
This is what i feared is i had to go back to a older system, but i understand and i may do it. All i need to know is does going back to the old software delete all my files on here and if so whats the best backup program to use? by files i mean apps, music, and settings.
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Anything on the sd card is safe (if you keep your music and fotos there). As for apps, the Market always remembers paid apps, and the newer market usually remembers most of the free apps you downloaded (I believe the apps are synched to google), so when you flash a new rom, it usually (in my experience) starts to download them all once you login to your account on first boot.
Out of luck on settings though. Installing a different rom will wipe away all user data. App settings, etc. You can use a backup app like Titanium backup, and backup like game data and app settings, then restore them after flashing a new rom, but really, I feel it's better to get a fresh start on a new rom
Moscow Desire said:
Anything on the sd card is safe (if you keep your music and fotos there). As for apps, the Market always remembers paid apps, and the newer market usually remembers most of the free apps you downloaded (I believe the apps are synched to google), so when you flash a new rom, it usually (in my experience) starts to download them all once you login to your account on first boot.
Out of luck on settings though. Installing a different rom will wipe away all user data. App settings, etc. You can use a backup app like Titanium backup, and backup like game data and app settings, then restore them after flashing a new rom, but really, I feel it's better to get a fresh start on a new rom
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If you are worried about backing up your apps, there are free apps in the market that will create backup files of your APK's. As for music and files, i find that flashing a new ROM they are still there, but just to be safe you can transfer them to a usb stick or something if you are worried about losing them. As for settings in the apps, you might be out of luck. I don't know a way of keeping them, but at the same time I never really cared to.
bfoster said:
This is what i feared is i had to go back to a older system, but i understand and i may do it. All i need to know is does going back to the old software delete all my files on here and if so whats the best backup program to use? by files i mean apps, music, and settings.
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I used method #2 in this link and it worked great for me. Then installed one of the rooted 3.2 roms in the development section and was up and running in no time. No data was deleted and all my apps were ready to go. When you first boot after the downgrade you will get a bunch of force closes, don't worry that is normal. Just follow the directions, install and run iconiaroot1.3, then install the cwm recovery through the acer recovery installer, then install the rooted 3.2 rom and when you boot up everything will be working correctly and you will be rooted. Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Also, I downloaded and installed the iconiaroot 1.3 and the acer recovery installer before downgrading so everything was ready to go. After you install and enter the cwm recovery, only wipe dalvik and cache before installing the 3.2 rom. If you wipe data you will loose all of your data. Took me about 10 minutes for the whole process and I didn't loose any data or have to re-install any apps.
tring but not success
i downloaded the zip file and installed the files in the zip file to my external cd card......then when i try to reboot using the power+vol-down keys it starts to load files then the android emblem comes up loads to 3/4 the the bar goes away and the android stays and now has a caution symbol in the middle and then the tab boots normal with all normal software......and help as to why i cannot flash the old software
Sounds like the file got corrupted. If you downloaded from a PC, try downloading it again. If you downloaded from the tab, try doing it from a PC and then transferring it to the tab.