Ok so we all know that the HD2 be it a great phone.............
that it hasnt got very much internal storage, i have not got anything in my documents section of the internal storage and i have still no space left i dont understand what is going on, when it coems up ont he computer it is only showing 4.5mb free of 181mb (i thought it was meant to have 512mb internal) so what is going on there???? i dont know what else i can delete although i know i can use the micro sd i am getting fed up of not having much internal space left and i cant find out what i need to delete etc
anyone else having this problem? anyone can she some light on this?
dragonglance said:
Ok so we all know that the HD2 be it a great phone.............
that it hasnt got very much internal storage, i have not got anything in my documents section of the internal storage and i have still no space left i dont understand what is going on, when it coems up ont he computer it is only showing 4.5mb free of 181mb (i thought it was meant to have 512mb internal) so what is going on there???? i dont know what else i can delete although i know i can use the micro sd i am getting fed up of not having much internal space left and i cant find out what i need to delete etc
anyone else having this problem? anyone can she some light on this?
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I did have the same problem, but when I flashed the 1.48 ROM I obviously started from scratch again and was just more choosy about what I installed on the phone. I got myself a 16GB card and just use that as the primary work area. I only install things like theme mods and more commonly used apps on the phone (coreplayer, tweaking apps, utilities etc..)
It's a pain, but the way I see it is that I could have a 16GB iPhone and be in exactly the same position as I am now.
I didn't have this problem, I know it's better to never install in main memory and to prefer to install in sd (16go)
so is it ok to just install everything to the sd card then instead of the phone inc luding sense changes etc??
I have just bought an Archos 101 16gb and downloaded just a few small apps.
I got a "Low on Space" notification today....but i cant understand why. Under /settings/staorage in shows under "Internal Storage" total space 14.44GB and available space 14.15GB.
I dont have an SD card yet
On system storage it says Avaialable space 25.25MB
Can someone help me understand whats going on here. Whats the differnce between Internal Storage and System storage and where do apps get stored by default....
Many thanks
Hey Pete,
System Storage is storage for apps that you can't put on internal storage or and SD card. Now, in order for you to only have 25mb free, you must have put a lot of data on there as well. I have a whole boatload of apps on my system and still have 162mb free on system storage (most are not on the SD). If you were to think of system storage in computer terms, it would be like RAM memory.
Internal storage is the storage where you put your data. Think of this storage as your "hard drive."
The next storage is, of course, the SD card. This is another place to store your data.
Finally, there is external storage. This is for things like flash drives and external hard drives.
By default apps load to the system storage area. You can go into your system preferences and move some to SD once you get an SD...but seriously, something else is at work for you to only have 25mb free right now.
ExploreMN said:
Hey Pete,
System Storage is storage for apps that you can't put on internal storage or and SD card. Now, in order for you to only have 25mb free, you must have put a lot of data on there as well. I have a whole boatload of apps on my system and still have 162mb free on system storage (most are not on the SD). If you were to think of system storage in computer terms, it would be like RAM memory.
Internal storage is the storage where you put your data. Think of this storage as your "hard drive."
The next storage is, of course, the SD card. This is another place to store your data.
Finally, there is external storage. This is for things like flash drives and external hard drives.
By default apps load to the system storage area. You can go into your system preferences and move some to SD once you get an SD...but seriously, something else is at work for you to only have 25mb free right now.
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Thank you that. Really helpful. So on my internal storage or "Hard Drive" I just have two apps, Aldiko and World Newspapers, totally 9mb.....
I had a look under /manage applications/downloaded and their is the AppsLib icon with 120MB next to it. That cant be right surely. This is just the Archos AppsLib app..... The MArket app is only 2.89 MB. If I look at the Application Infor for AppsLib under storage it says Total 120MB, Application 1MB and Data 119MB. What is this 119MB???
Also how do I set up storage preferences and what should they be.
Many thanks
OK, sotday the problem has changed. The missing 119MB of System storage has re-appeared. It seems that the AppsLib app which had shown 119MB of data cleared itself before I could uninstall it. No Idea why it had created 119MB of data in the first place.
So, can someone explain this for me. Not sure Im upto spead with this whole storage regime yet :-(
under /settings/storage "System Storage" was showing 119MB available.
I then downloaded Angry Birds (1.87 MB) and Angry Birds Seasons (1.99MB). Then checking /settings/storage "System Storage" now shows 104MB.
Next checking /settings/applications/manage applications and then clicking the "On Internal Strorage" tab I see the two Angry Birds apps there on Internal Strorage.
So my question is how come my "System Storage" has gone down by 15MB when the two apps only add up to less than 4MB. But, as manage apps shows them on the internal storage i.e. my 16gb storage, why did my system storage available space change at all. I'm very confused........
Update. I just checed AppsLib under /settings/applications/manage applications and its showing under application infor "Stroage" Total 41.46MB, Appkication 1.0MB and Data 40.46 MB. Whats going on here. What is the 40.46MB of data made up of. Its eating my System Storage.....Why?
Pete917 said:
Update. I just checed AppsLib under /settings/applications/manage applications and its showing under application infor "Stroage" Total 41.46MB, Appkication 1.0MB and Data 40.46 MB. Whats going on here. What is the 40.46MB of data made up of. Its eating my System Storage.....Why?
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have you installed Dolphin Browser HD or something similar?
In the options you can set cache to write into System Storage....
You should set the option to write cache into sdcard instead!!
Remember first to delete all caches...
I don't know if in the standard browser there is a similar option...
Honestly Pete, I have no idea what to tell you. I mean I'm not doing anything special and I have about 60 apps installed and still have 120mb of system storage, about 5gb of my 8gb internal storage and my 8gb SD card is maxed out with movies, music, documents, and some e-books I'm reading.
I have angry birds (not seasons...not feeling Christmas at the moment) and several other games as well.
I haven't done anything with the apps other than hit the "install" button. I know there are a lot I can move to SD, but since I don't need to I haven't.
The system memory does jump around though. As you use applications, load and unload, etc. Try using Archos's task manager to stop all apps, wait like 10 seconds (1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus type 10 seconds...) , then check your storage. I bet that might be the issue. Hell, it almost has to be!
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Honestly Pete, I have no idea what to tell you. I mean I'm not doing anything special and I have about 60 apps installed and still have 120mb of system storage, about 5gb of my 8gb internal storage and my 8gb SD card is maxed out with movies, music, documents, and some e-books I'm reading.
I have angry birds (not seasons...not feeling Christmas at the moment) and several other games as well.
I haven't done anything with the apps other than hit the "install" button. I know there are a lot I can move to SD, but since I don't need to I haven't.
The system memory does jump around though. As you use applications, load and unload, etc. Try using Archos's task manager to stop all apps, wait like 10 seconds (1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus type 10 seconds...) , then check your storage. I bet that might be the issue. Hell, it almost has to be!
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Thankyou. I think Im getting there. I noticed that in /settings/apps/manage apps the Archos AppsLib was showing 120MB. Weird I thought. So looking that the App Info for it said App 1MB data 119MB.
So I have uninstalled, re-booted and then sideloaded the latest build of AppsLib from Arcos. No App Info shows 1MB. Magically Angry Birds re-appeared too ...
This sounds like it has something to do with the problem and I now have to keep an eye on AppsLib to make sure it doesnt start eating System Storage Again.....
This seems very unusual to me. Maybe something is coded incorrectly by Archos in their latest release of AppsLib. Can others please tell me what amount of Data AppsLib has created on their devices? Thanks.
I havent got an external SD card yet, so I think that's going to be a must. Whats the biggest SD card that it can take? 32GB???
I should maybe also get Apps2SD. There seems a few versions out there. Who's the author of the one everyone here has loaded?
My appslib is 0.93mb of that, only .02mb is the data part.
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My appslib is 0.93mb of that, only .02mb is the data part.
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Thanks. Mine is curretly 1.05MB. The data part being 0,05MB. I'll keep an eye on it now I have re-installed to make sure it doesnt creep up again. What version are you running?
the most recent one.
Im still having problems in thw whole storage and could do with some help.
The System Storage is listed as 299.44mb available when I look in App2sd. It shows I have 86.29mb available.
Using App 2 SD it shows the list of immovable apps on the System Storage. When I add up their indivdiual file sizes it comes to 65.919mb.
So where is the other 147.23mb gone?
Is System Storage where the Android OS sits? If so would that account for 147mb?
Many thanks Guys.
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Im still having problems in thw whole storage and could do with some help.
The System Storage is listed as 299.44mb available when I look in App2sd. It shows I have 86.29mb available.
Using App 2 SD it shows the list of immovable apps on the System Storage. When I add up their indivdiual file sizes it comes to 65.919mb.
So where is the other 147.23mb gone?
Is System Storage where the Android OS sits? If so would that account for 147mb?
Many thanks Guys.
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No, the OS is on a different partition, specifically a mounted squashfs. There will always be more data on the /data partition(System Storage) than is listed in the Applications menu. Keep in mind all the System Apps (ones you didn't install) will still need to store databases, settings, etc. on the /data partition, because the OS partition is read only.
147mb seems like alot, but my Archos has about the same amount of storage available(~86mb), and I have about the same amount of installed apps(~65mb), so I guess it's right.
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No, the OS is on a different partition, specifically a mounted squashfs. There will always be more data on the /data partition(System Storage) than is listed in the Applications menu. Keep in mind all the System Apps (ones you didn't install) will still need to store databases, settings, etc. on the /data partition, because the OS partition is read only.
147mb seems like alot, but my Archos has about the same amount of storage available(~86mb), and I have about the same amount of installed apps(~65mb), so I guess it's right.
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Thank you for answering that. I thought i was going nuts loomlking fot the missing storage
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Thank you for answering that. I thought i was going nuts loomlking fot the missing storage
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No problem. I never really did the math, but it seems like an awful lot is used by non-download apps. I may have to do some crawling through the file system to see what's using so much.
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No problem. I never really did the math, but it seems like an awful lot is used by non-download apps. I may have to do some crawling through the file system to see what's using so much.
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If you discover anything please let me know. 147mb seems a lot to have gone missing
I contacted Archos support and they gave this answer:
"Dear Customer,
The information given by the 3thd party software is not correct, we do not support 3thrd part software.
Kind Regards,
Archos Technical Support"
So they are not helpful at all. Given the amount of money we pay for these devices you'd think they wouldnt just dissmiss my request for support and perhaps try and help even a little bit....
Do you both think that an operatingsystem can run without any memoryneeds?
Android is build for small memory devices but it still needs some memory or all that ui, threading, file and other services.
It is a bare Linux which consumes around 100MB depending on the features you have installed/switched on.
This is my first Android device, so sorry for the noob question. I searched, I really did.
How do you view the size of the drives (built-in and microSD) and the amount of space still available on these drives?
When I go to the folder manager, I see "sdcard" and "Removable". The right side arrow allows more information, and this is what's shown:
sdcard: 161MB, 85 files
Removable: 2.12GB, 225 files
The "removable" is the microSD, and the size shown is about how much data is on the drive. No information about how big Android thinks the drive is.
I assumed the "sdcard" is the internal flash memory. On my Transformer, it should be a 32GB capacity. So does that mean I'm only using 161MB of that 32GB? That seem kinda small, so I doubted that I was looking at the right place.
Check out an app on the Market called DiskUsage, Nice little program that shows you all sorts of info on your drives! And it's free!
Settings>Storage. Shows total space and a break down of what is using this space. Shows Internal Storage and MicroSD under that.
No need for an app.
edit: also welcome to Android
+1 or Disk Usage. Very informative. Also prior to installing new apps always check memory usage ( listed in app description).
Thanks all. It's been fun playing with this. xda is great.
I have a 64GB sd card in my phone to use. Right now, I have about 18GB of free space. I've also figured out by looking at my folders on the SD card that I've used up less than 20GB. Why does my SD card show that I only have 18GB of free space then? I should have another 20GB+ of free space. What is taking up this space and where can I find it and get that space back?
For a quick FYI, I'm positive I've rooted and put my ROM into the stock partition.
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I have a 64GB sd card in my phone to use. Right now, I have about 18GB of free space. I've also figured out by looking at my folders on the SD card that I've used up less than 20GB. Why does my SD card show that I only have 18GB of free space then? I should have another 20GB+ of free space. What is taking up this space and where can I find it and get that space back?
For a quick FYI, I'm positive I've rooted and put my ROM into the stock partition.
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Go to settings / storage, then tell us what it says the TOTAL SPACE is for your SD Card. That'll give us a better idea of whats going on and possibly help you.
It's possible your card is only formatted to 32gb due to it possibly being in fat32 and its a bit more of a challenge to format it to the 64gb. This might shed some light on what i'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2041679
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Go to settings / storage, then tell us what it says the TOTAL SPACE is for your SD Card. That'll give us a better idea of whats going on and possibly help you.
It's possible your card is only formatted to 32gb due to it possibly being in fat32 and its a bit more of a challenge to format it to the 64gb. This might shed some light on what i'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2041679
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Looks like it says total space is 59.48GB
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Looks like it says total space is 59.48GB
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Then it is formated and showing correctly. On that same page it should tell you how much free space you have. My suggestion is to hook it up to your pc, highlight all the folders on the SD Card and click properties. Might have more there than you think. Its possible you have some backups going to the SD Card?
Ok guys need some help from experts.
I am trying to move some apps from internal storage to my SD card, but during the app transfer I receive a message of not enough space for transfer. I have a 128 GB from SanDisk with 50% of free space. The game I am trying to move to SD card has more or less 800Mbytes of size. So I have much more space than the necessary.
Looking in the internet I found some users with similar problems and they solve it leaving the SD card with less than 32GB of free space since it seems that android has problems with more than 32 GB.
But I really want to believe there is a better solution since we a talking about Android 6.01 and S7 Edge.
Anyone knows a better solution for this?
Thanks
Eduardo
Have you tried it using apps?
Penelope559 said:
Have you tried it using apps?
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What do you mean? Apps like app2SD ?
No I have not tried. I dont want to use an extra app to simply move my applications. It should be simple. But if there is no other way I will try.
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Eduardo
Sorry to revive this thread but I am just curious if you ever found a solution or did you use an app instead?