Does anyone still use autokiller with their evo? I remember using it before but haven't heard anyone talk about it lately
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Nooooo waaaayyyy. Autokillers are bad news! Use Autostarts instead to prevent crap from ever starting instead of killing it once it does. Your battery will thank you!
why did you bring it back up? hhmmmmm......
I was an avid user of ATK until about a month ago, I saw someone with a stock unrooted evo (3.70 OTA updated), that had been off battery for 10 hours and still had 40% battery. They didn't have any task killers running at all. So I said to myself if that guy can do it, Myn's RLS5 with Netarchy's 4.3.1 CFS HAVS NOSBC can definately do it.
Needless to say, I don't know why I ever used a taskkiller, my battery has been awesome by just letting android do its own thing.
Autokiller and ATK are two completely different apps though that do different things..
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Autokiller and ATK are two completely different apps though that do different things..
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Yea, thats my point...ATK is of course stupid, but I thought autokiller would work better. I'm guessing its built into the custom kernels, so no need?
I just googled it, I didn't know there was an app called autokiller. I thought you were referring to the autokiller function of ATK or other task killers. It seems that it is significantly different than a task killer. I guess it directly adjusts the way android deals with memory management?
None of that crap is needed with Froyo.
I use autokiller, I estimate it gives me maybe another hour of battery per day, if that, but things run smoother when I open more apps than normal. Don't run into the sluggishness that I used to run into with too many apps open. It lets android smoothly kill off apps im not using more agressively than it normally would.
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fachadick said:
I use autokiller, I estimate it gives me maybe another hour of battery per day, if that, but things run smoother when I open more apps than normal. Don't run into the sluggishness that I used to run into with too many apps open. It lets android smoothly kill off apps im not using more agressively that it normally would.
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What settings are you using?
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What settings are you using?
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I use the "aggressive" preset, seems to work well for me
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I have mine set on auto kill. I guess I'm still stuck on eclair mode.
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I have advanced task manager,(paid) but really the only time I use it is to quickly uninstall apps. Sometimes I clear all apps after a boot but after that I leave it alone.
I have it start at boot and use custom presets. Have used it since it came out for the hero. Now it saves time especially when using the 128K read ahead buffering scheme. The buffers got to go somewhere, they are more than a only pio/mio setting.
I wish I never bought it... I fell for the app just to find out I really didn't need it
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I have advanced task manager,(paid) but really the only time I use it is to quickly uninstall apps. Sometimes I clear all apps after a boot but after that I leave it alone.
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Do you use a task killer?
If yes or now, how's your battery life and what rom/kernel are you using?
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
check out the link for info on task killers
No I do not and I recommend everyone I know uninstall them.
I am using baked snacks 1.7 with the pre-loaded kernel running manup's theme and minfree manager on aggressive settings.
I had ninety percent this morning at five thirty and at five this evening I was at ten percent. That is with moderate usage while at work.
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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I've read that also...
I'm using Fresh 3.2 with kingkernel #8
Just wondering what others are using or not using...
Task Killers are no good.
I uninstall the stuff I don't want and use "autostarts" to manage when the stuff I do want gets started.
No need for task killers when a) you prevent the apps from starting in the first place and b) they don't work anyways.
nebenezer said:
Task Killers are no good.
I uninstall the stuff I don't want and use "autostarts" to manage when the stuff I do want gets started.
No need for task killers when a) you prevent the apps from starting in the first place and b) they don't work anyways.
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without a search, can you point me to autostarts?
Found one in the market for .69, is that it?
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without a search, can you point me to autostarts?
Found one in the market for .69, is that it?
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the most popular task killer is ATK, or advanced task killer. BUT... i dont recommend task killers for any device on froyo, it really does more harm than good
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without a search, can you point me to autostarts?
Found one in the market for .69, is that it?
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Yeah that sounds right. It was a paid app but very cheap. The icon is a little red car..
Also, spelled exactly: "autostarts", there is only one on the market.
It's a great app, a little tedious to set up but once you get it set it's a big help.
When you open it it will run and show you all the conditions that would start an app (not just at startup) and you can prevent, for example, photobucket from running every time you take a picture.
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the most popular task killer is ATK, or advanced task killer. BUT... i dont recommend task killers for any device on froyo, it really does more harm than good
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autostarts is not a task killer, it prevents apps from being started in the first place.
I quit using a task killer, my battery life didn't seem to change. I easily get 12 hours with moderate usage. I don't have a problem getting through a work day without charging. Stock Evo 2.2
Edit: I got my nephew to take his task killers off his MOTO Droid 2.2 and he said he's getting better battery life. He had juice defender and automatic task killer and advanced task killer
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Edit: I got my nephew to take his task killers off his MOTO Droid 2.2 and he said he's getting better battery life. He had juice defender and automatic task killer and advanced task killer
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You do realize Juice Defneder is not a task killer right?
The combination of Autostarts and Juice Defender net me over 24 hours off the charger with moderate to heavy use. I never chose to not use my phone in order to preserve battery, unless I'm below 10%.
Autostarts + Juice Defender = WIN
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You do realize Juice Defneder is not a task killer right?
The combination of Autostarts and Juice Defender net me over 24 hours off the charger with moderate to heavy use. I never chose to not use my phone in order to preserve battery, unless I'm below 10%.
Autostarts + Juice Defender = WIN
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Yeah I know but I was cleaning up his phone for him and he says he's getting better battery life now, never used juice defender myself, seen it around though.
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No I do not and I recommend everyone I know uninstall them.
I am using baked snacks 1.7 with the pre-loaded kernel running manup's theme and minfree manager on aggressive settings.
I had ninety percent this morning at five thirty and at five this evening I was at ten percent. That is with moderate usage while at work.
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Since 11 this morning with moderate usage until rightnow (9:13 pm) I'm at 72%. Stock 2.2 Rom ota .28 w/ root. Using ATK.
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I'm a heavily user and manage to get atleast 4 hours.. but as juice defender which I did use and did help if you didn't use your phone, I just used the data widget and manually turn data off before I shut my phone off. I turn it back on if I use a app that uses data. Not a big hassel its a 1 click thing. Unclicked background data and auto-sync and notice the same or better than juice. The only thing I notice so far foe background data is market used it. I turn data on and open email and it syncs. My input on juice. Atk is a no no in my books.
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I thought Android 2.2 removed the API that task killers use to kill apps?
The only things I use is the Running Services if something isn't closing, or SystemPanel, other then that, no task killers.. I use to all the time until I learned they really don't do anything.
Not anymore, I do keep an eye on system panel though.
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I use ATK but only manually after I am done using an app. No point in keeping them in memory if I'm not going to be using it, I also leave the services alone and uninstall anything that likes to autostart. For battery life I regularly get 12 hours with fairly heavy usage for about four or five hours. That's streaming pandora, or using the music app, over bluetooth while browsing the web or reading the news. If I don't use it but for calls and some texts it will usually last a day or two.
Stock de-odexed ROM with Netarchy's 4.1.9 CFS kernel.
I'm almost positive that anyone running froyo is getting nothing out of using a task killer. Google axed the ability for these types of apps to work properly in 2.2. They are nothing more than a waste of cpu cycles and battery.
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I had a Evo before and the Android System used maybe 15% of the battery (as seen in the battery stats section of the settings.) Now I have an Evo with far worse battery life, and it says that 55% of the juice is being used by Android System? Anyone know why, or how to fix it? These are essentially stock Evos, no rooting or such. Thanks.
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Mine says 30% right now but that's with me playing on it for a while tonight. Try a battery pull, or reset it.
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Click on it and see how many apps "android system" contains. Also if you havent made any phone calls or used 3rd party apps to much "android system" will occupy most of the battery.
Ok, did some research and found that people have been having issues with version 1 of the HTCfacebook app keeping the phone awake all the time and killing the battery. Seems.it.can not he deleted on non-rooted phones, but I did force close it and the drain on the battery seems to have slowed, and the system is down to 30% battery usage. now, does anyone know how I might delete this app without root? (this is the app which comes preinstalled and runs all the time in the background, not the one downloaded from the market.)
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Ok, did some research and found that people have been having issues with version 1 of the HTCfacebook app keeping the phone awake all the time and killing the battery. Seems.it.can not he deleted on non-rooted phones, but I did force close it and the drain on the battery seems to have slowed, and the system is down to 30% battery usage. now, does anyone know how I might delete this app without root? (this is the app which comes preinstalled and runs all the time in the background, not the one downloaded from the market.)
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Did you make sure it's not set for auto sync using the HTCfacebook app?
You should be able to update it to the newer version that fixed that issue. No need to delete.
How does one update the preinstalled version? Thx.
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How does one update the preinstalled version? Thx.
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I re-read one of your posts and noticed that its the htc facebook that's giving you the problem.
You should be able to download facebook for android (ver. 1.3.2 I believe) on the market and that should become your default facebook app and solve your issue.
Thanks lovethyEVO, I have done that but the default app keeps running in the background
Wonder if you went to settings, applications, and found the bad fb. App. Then hit clear defaults. Now set the upgraded version as default. Idk. It might work
Was going to suggest an autostarts type of app, since you can't uninstall it unless your rooted, but it looks like you have to be rooted on autostarts also. You can maybe try to find one that doesn't need root, or an autokill type of app. You can't uninstall it, but maybe you can keep it under control.
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Thanks all. Well, I spent about 2 hours rooting from 2.2 today, and now I am running Fresh, which seems to have far superior battery life. Thanks for all of your ideas. (rooting the Hero was way, way easier)
Hey guys, If you have been involved in this community for a while then you well know how developers feel about task killers. Many such as Cyanogen have spoken out saying they are useless and not good for the phone. Heck, even Google released a blog about how Android works.
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/google-and-cyanogen-comments-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
So, is the stock task killer build into the J16 update going to have the same negative effect? I am wholly against task killers. I work in the industry and every time I am helping a customer or selling a phone I make sure they know the negative impact these have on a phone. But i want to know what you guys think.
Dev doesn't have problem with Task manger per se, they have problem with the "auto-kill" ability of some of the task manager in the Market.
I personally think JI6 task manager is cleanly done. It even tells you the CPU usage, so you can just kill of the "trouble" APP. It also doesn't show any of the system apps so, making it impossible to screw things up.
Plus, it's got other information that are helpful as well.
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Dev doesn't have problem with Task manger per se, they have problem with the "auto-kill" ability of some of the task manager in the Market.
I personally think JI6 task manager is cleanly done. It even tells you the CPU usage, so you can just kill of the "trouble" APP. It also doesn't show any of the system apps so, making it impossible to screw things up.
Plus, it's got other information that are helpful as well.
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True, it is that System app that can mess with crap. But what about apps that share processes with other apps?
Task managers are total crapware...well for the most part...auto killers are the plage avoid them...the bully in task manager seems to be okay for only one thing to kill an app that had locked up or needs to be reset...other than that its a waste of space and battery drain if you run the widget.
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Task managers are total crapware...well for the most part...auto killers are the plage avoid them...the bully in task manager seems to be okay for only one thing to kill an app that had locked up or needs to be reset...other than that its a waste of space and battery drain if you run the widget.
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All the widget does is tell you how many active apps are running. The task manager is welcome seeing as how even some built in apps don't allow you yo cleanly exit them and Android apps tend to consume large amounts of RAM.
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I think I've made it clear on my stance, but I will say the task manager on JI6 seems fine. The fact that it shows the CPU usage is the key part. And like others have said, it does not show system apps... just don't end the obvious ones that are syncing or widgets...
Well after running battery graph with and without the widget running...the widget takes 1% from the battery every 10 mins it runs...I liked the factor of seeing what was running in the bg but too much battery use on my stock battery...got a 3300 on the way...might use more widgets and apps after that but with this weak battery not going to use anything that eats battery away....btw running b 1.7 with voodoo lagfix
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Personally I don't mind the Task manager. I had "Where" go bonkers on me and I didn't realize it. It was running 80% and my phone started to get hot. I killed the app and it returned to normal.
Never mind the fact that I started "Where" probably 15-20minutes earlier and it ate nearly 20% of my battery in the period with the screen off and sitting at the home screen.
Apps can go rogue and in my opinion thats when they should be used not because it gives you a false since of your saving battery power or to make room for other apps.
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Personally I don't mind the Task manager. I had "Where" go bonkers on me and I didn't realize it. It was running 80% and my phone started to get hot. I killed the app and it returned to normal.
Never mind the fact that I started "Where" probably 15-20minutes earlier and it ate nearly 20% of my battery in the period with the screen off and sitting at the home screen.
Apps can go rogue and in my opinion thats when they should be used not because it gives you a false since of your saving battery power or to make room for other apps.
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wow. your phone consumes 20% even when it's not used?
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wow. your phone consumes 20% even when it's not used?
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Its cause the app was eating his battery up. Read please.
The widget does not use 1% battery per 10 minutes. Please make up something believable...
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Nevermind responded when I didn't need to.
It's not a ' task manager ' as they call it, its a process manager... in the original vibrant Rom JFD , if you create a shortcut for the activity, 'running services' , it links to the same service... I don't use it but don't mind it as long as they never add an auto kill feature to it... I think it will also stop new users from getting app/task manager crap_ware from the market...
I like it and i think its better than the task killer in the market,
At least it is not suggesting killing everything but showing how much CPU the app is using.
For sure, i won't put that stupid ugly widget in the desktop as it is really useless
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Its cause the app was eating his battery up. Read please.
The widget does not use 1% battery per 10 minutes. Please make up something believable...
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Hey, I know that the apps are consuming the battery life. But mine is not like that.
Is there anyway to increase the battery life on the aria? I love it, and I love sense, but within about twelve or so hours of moderate use in the day my battery is left with roughly 20%. With cyanogenmod, the same period of time and usage, I was left at 60% battery. I know the sense launcher and Widgets play a little part of that, but even with my hero, battery life wasn't that much of a difference between vanilla and sense roms.
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I would suggest an App killer. I have yet to try cyanogen's ROM but am on Attn1's Liberated Rom. I have Bluetooth enabled all day and by the end of 12hrs it is at 25% or so. Not saying switch. I would try Advanced task killer. Have many friends using that on their EVO's and Nexuses and their battery is wayyyy better.
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I would suggest an App killer. I have yet to try cyanogen's ROM but am on Attn1's Liberated Rom. I have Bluetooth enabled all day and by the end of 12hrs it is at 25% or so. Not saying switch. I would try Advanced task killer. Have many friends using that on their EVO's and Nexuses and their battery is wayyyy better.
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I've tried all the tricks. I always have advanced task killer no matter what rom I'm running. I change thee location settings, network settings, screen brightness etc. I love htc sense but I don't want the battery life that comes with it. I know what my tricks are,i just want to see what the community had come up with.
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I would suggest an App killer. I have yet to try cyanogen's ROM but am on Attn1's Liberated Rom. I have Bluetooth enabled all day and by the end of 12hrs it is at 25% or so. Not saying switch. I would try Advanced task killer. Have many friends using that on their EVO's and Nexuses and their battery is wayyyy better.
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I have read somewhere on the google (official google page about android stuff), using task killers does NOT improve battery life because background apps stated as "suspended" when they are in background. I dont know if I get it right. I will post link if I can find.
P.S. Couldn't find it but it was something similar with this:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Of course, you must take control off applications really "running" in background and preventing the phone sleep state. Not just "killing" all applications.
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I have read somewhere on the google (official google page about android stuff), using task killers does NOT improve battery life because background apps stated as "suspended" when they are in background. I dont know if I get it right. I will post link if I can find.
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That is good to know, I think I've read this somewhere before.
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An update from liberated 007 to the newer 008 has given me tremendous amount of battery life back. With the cm kernel fixed I'm getting the same life that was expected out of cm 6.1
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An update from liberated 007 to the newer 008 has given me tremendous amount of battery life back. With the cm kernel fixed I'm getting the same life that was expected out of cm 6.1
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Mmmmm. If there's one thing that could drag me over from the standard Liberated ROM over to the Froyo ROM, it would be longer battery life.*
Perhaps I'll give it a shot this weekend.
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* I've resisted the urge to switch, only because I've heard wildly conflicting stories about how fast it runs on the Aria.
don't use task killer it will kill the app but the app will just start up again in the background cause the battery to run out. it says its in the background and that's true but its not running its idle and isn't affecting battery.
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I have to say, at stock clock it got sluggish at times, overclocked to 800 though its running absolutely great!
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You might want to try out an app called Autostarts. Just make sure you don't turn anything off you really are gonna need. Try this with advanced task killer and the apps wont load back up.
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I've tried all the tricks. I always have advanced task killer no matter what rom I'm running. I change thee location settings, network settings, screen brightness etc. I love htc sense but I don't want the battery life that comes with it. I know what my tricks are,i just want to see what the community had come up with.
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Check that you do not have an app constantly running in the background - on my stetup, I found that the XDA app was burning 3-5% CPU time spooling in the background doing nothing. (using OSMonitor)
For what its worth, I went back to the Sense ROM (FR008) from CM6.1 because of strange battery behavior - some days dropping to 30-40% after a full day, others it would be dead by 5pm. I dont consider my self a heavy user either. I do not see a significant difference in battery life between the two ROMs, if you throw out the aberrant days that CM would go nuts on me.
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I am now on 25 hours without a charge and still have 65% battery left. Previously I couldn't make it through the day without hooking up the umbilical cord of life. I used to clear apps regularly with the stock task manager but would start out with 150MB free after boot and by the end of the day could not get better than 80MB free. Everyone was crying memory leaks. These are NOT memory leaks but errant programs that cache behind trhe scenes draining your battery and stealing resources. They are also immune to the stock task killer.
I found these bad bad apps by installing Memory Booster Lite from the market. After getting a 0 applications closed I went into the Task Killer in Memory Booster and found a bunch of apps loaded into memory still! Things like Google + hogging 28 MB of memory! There was Amazon Appstore, Maps, Facebook, Beatiful Widgets, Email, Telenav, Netflix, logsprovider....all immune to the stock task killer and slowly eating memory during the day as they load. I killed all the ones I recognized (no com.XXXX stuff) and then checked back in a few minutes to see what would reload. Google +, Beautiful Widgets, Facebook, Maps, and others would reload. Using the paid version of Titanium backup I froze apps like Google +, Maps, Netflix, and others that I don't use daily. You can use other apps for this like Autostarts. I deleted apps that are not worth my memory and battery power. I also set all syncs to manual and keep the display down as low as I need to. The results were tripling my battery life. I also stay on Wifi as much as possible and as soon as I get off XDA App, Tapatalk or any browser clear it with the stock task killer. I always have about 140 MB free now.
Your mileage may vary. The display is the biggest battery killer so if your a gamer, or spend hours reading, don't expect a lot of improvement from this but you will see some. I hope this helps battery life and memory leak myths for some of you.
The important thing in this forum is to have fun and help others.
I'm not trolling, and you do have great suggestions here. I just wish there were some easy way to get an entire day of full use without having to get an extended battery while using the epic to its full potential. I like autosync, adecently lit screen, and my range of Widgets which I use daily. Too bad I can't go more than 16 hours with everything on. I have tried at one point most of your suggestions, and it did greatly improve battery life. I suggest anyone at least give it a shot and then slowly turn back on the things they must have, like gmail sync or haptic feedback.
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Blankrubber, this is a good place to add on to what I just found. The key is to see what else is running that is immune to the stock task killer. I never knew how much Google + and Maps were killing my battery. I got rid of my extended battery long ago but now I am sill amazed. 29 hours and 52% left. But the key when you say using it fully is limiting display time and intensity. No matter what that is the biggest drain so if you are glued to your phone for over 4 hours it will always be tough to make it last. Phones that used to be just phones could go days without charge. Now they are little computers. Think...laptops only go about 2 hours runtime without a charge and those batteries are a lot bigger.
I use Bloat Freezer myself. It shows whatever is running in the background highlighted in gray. Google+,Maps, the others Kenny mentioned are the usual suspects. Doing what Kenny said will help out for sure. Yes, its annoying we have to do this to extend battery life but some apps are always at work. Memory Booster is pretty good. Viper baked it in a ROM a while back. Its definately worth checking out
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I use Bloat Freezer myself. It shows whatever is running in the background highlighted in gray. Google+,Maps, the others Kenny mentioned are the usual suspects. Doing what Kenny said will help out for sure. Yes, its annoying we have to do this to extend battery life but some apps are always at work. Memory Booster is pretty good. Viper baked it in a ROM a while back. Its definately worth checking out
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Thanks John, hard to keep up on all these apps to help manage apps and memory. Will have to check out Bloat Freezer. Hope there are less steps than Titanium to unfreeze.
I highly recommend Autokiller Memory.
After reading the dev's page and all he found I installed the app and after setting it up, its maintained my memory free of immune apps and battery life us off the hook!
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If something is just sitting in memory why would that have any effect on battery life? It should actually improve your battery life cuz then it just loads the app from memory and not a full re open of the app. Now if your saying that these questionable apps are just running processes then yes that would have an effect on battery as it is just sitting there doing something. But back to the memory side of this. Memory is used in all devices to take some of the load off the processor to make it load faster. It is there for a reason every device would not use memory if it was not efficient at loading apps and saving battery.
But if you only use the app once a week or so why waste those resources or the initial load time. If it sits in memory and another app needs that memory the processor uses more power and battery swapping apps in and out of memory needlessly. My phone is super fast and running 32 hours with 46% left. I can't put up a better argument than those results. Memory swapping is bad on battery it seems.
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Thanks John, hard to keep up on all these apps to help manage apps and memory. Will have to check out Bloat Freezer. Hope there are less steps than Titanium to unfreeze.
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I button to press to unfreeze with Bloat Freezer....actually 2. You press menu softkey then unfreeze all. The phones baked in apps are in red, running apps highlighted gray, and frozen apps blue. Its really user friendly
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I am now on 25 hours without a charge and still have 65% battery left. Previously I couldn't make it through the day without hooking up the umbilical cord of life. I used to clear apps regularly with the stock task manager but would start out with 150MB free after boot and by the end of the day could not get better than 80MB free. Everyone was crying memory leaks. These are NOT memory leaks but errant programs that cache behind trhe scenes draining your battery and stealing resources. They are also immune to the stock task killer.
I found these bad bad apps by installing Memory Booster Lite from the market. After getting a 0 applications closed I went into the Task Killer in Memory Booster and found a bunch of apps loaded into memory still! Things like Google + hogging 28 MB of memory! There was Amazon Appstore, Maps, Facebook, Beatiful Widgets, Email, Telenav, Netflix, logsprovider....all immune to the stock task killer and slowly eating memory during the day as they load. I killed all the ones I recognized (no com.XXXX stuff) and then checked back in a few minutes to see what would reload. Google +, Beautiful Widgets, Facebook, Maps, and others would reload. Using the paid version of Titanium backup I froze apps like Google +, Maps, Netflix, and others that I don't use daily. You can use other apps for this like Autostarts. I deleted apps that are not worth my memory and battery power. I also set all syncs to manual and keep the display down as low as I need to. The results were tripling my battery life. I also stay on Wifi as much as possible and as soon as I get off XDA App, Tapatalk or any browser clear it with the stock task killer. I always have about 140 MB free now.
Your mileage may vary. The display is the biggest battery killer so if your a gamer, or spend hours reading, don't expect a lot of improvement from this but you will see some. I hope this helps battery life and memory leak myths for some of you.
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1: you must never actually use your phone at all, if you do then your battery claims are bs
2: you obviously don't understand much about android/linux and how memory functionality works
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Zeinzu said:
1: you must never actually use your phone at all, if you do then your battery claims are bs
2: you obviously don't understand much about android/linux and how memory functionality works
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Whatever dude. Look at my posts count and thanks count. Got this phone a week after it came out in September and never could get better than 16 hours life out of the battery. I do a few simple things as posted and am at 38% with 32 hours. Obviously you are the one without a clue. Troll out of my thread if you have nothing constructive to add. Believe me or not I have nothing to gain by posting this.
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Zeinzu said:
1: you must never actually use your phone at all, if you do then your battery claims are bs
2: you obviously don't understand much about android/linux and how memory functionality works
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I've been around the Android platform for more than 3 years. I've pretty much read all google has shared with us (the Military) for application development and I do agree that there are dormit services that hog up your memory / battery even when your not using the phone.
I agree with this dev and his tool: http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
I think that he nailed it when he found out how did Android manage memory and the determination it takes in order to "kill" what you don't use.
Now... Do you care to share what you know about the subject that we don't, in stead of just coming bashing and leaving?
This is a forum, we are more than open to debates here.
megabiteg said:
I've been around the Android platform for more than 3 years. I've pretty much read all google has shared with us (the Military) for application development and I do agree that there are dormit services that hog up your memory / battery even when your not using the phone.
I agree with this dev and his tool: http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
I think that he nailed it when he found out how did Android manage memory and the determination it takes in order to "kill" what you don't use.
Now... Do you care to share what you know about that we don't, in stead of just coming bashing and leaving?
This is a forum, we are more than open to debates here.
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the v6supercharger fixed these issues for me. also if you use go launcher, there is a tab in the app drawer of running apps which you can close with ease!
megabiteg said:
I highly recommend Autokiller Memory.
After reading the dev's page and all he found I installed the app and after setting it up, its maintained my memory free of immune apps and battery life us off the hook!
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that's the app i use...i only kill the apps that don't close properly after i use them and frozen some services with titanium...i have amazing battery life (eco5 btw, gingerbread is not stable enough for me)
Tw wats ur onscreen time?? Would u post some screenshots? The longest battery I ever had was like 15 hours and 4 hours of onscreen time with around 10% left
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omair2005 said:
the v6supercharger fixed these issues for me. also if you use go launcher, there is a tab in the app drawer of running apps which you can close with ease!
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+1 for V6, im usually at 250mb free ram consistently, while closing NOT A DAMN THING
For that basher out there, I am sorry if I don't spend hours watching porn on my phone for you to really judge battery life but here is the pic:
And I may not be able to code Android but I am familiar in C++ and CPU usage and how much you lose by not having available memory to swap programs with.
omair2005 said:
the v6supercharger fixed these issues for me. also if you use go launcher, there is a tab in the app drawer of running apps which you can close with ease!
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Nice. That was my issue though is that some of these memory/battery killers don't show up in the launcher's task killers. Google + and Maps never show up and get stopped and continue to kill the battery getting data behind the scenes because Google wrote them in that way. It is important to at least check if you have bad battery life what else is running with a good task killer like Memory Booster Lite.
i think the best solution for battery life is autokiller, v6 script and titanium..the stock gingerbread task manager aka (the running services in settings) isn't that great...when i was on eg22, i noticed it displayed the wrong amount of ram left and didn't display every single app running in the background..autokiller is able to see every single app running in the background but never kill the programs with (com.google and android.process)...I only kills apps i use like engadget and pulse..when u exit these with back button, they always stay in the background and use autokiller to make sure it's completely killed...never set any task killer to autokill apps, that will drain your battery faster...and they are some annoying 3rd party apps that always run in the background since they are not coded well (imo)..for example, i froze the script manager with titanium after i implemented the v6 script because it kept restarting itself all the time..i suggest people follow RandomKing's tutorial on how to extend battery life, it helped a lot..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106524...i constantly have 150 to 200 ram free with im not running any apps..im on eco5 aosp rom with eco5 (eg22 and eh06 are not stable enough for me)
To be honest, I think you're overestimating the effect these task killers are having on your phone.
Your graph looks very similar to mine when I'm using it moderately, and I haven't installed any task killers. (And, yes, I've got the same Maps, Google+, etc apps on my phone). The only changes I've made are:
- Turning my screen brightness all the way down.
- Having very few non-push syncs.
Today I'll be using my phone a lot as a camera, but I'll try to remember to leave it off the charger one day this week so that I have a power graph that lasts longer than 18 hours.