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Why is the Iphone killing the Diamond in number of available G-sensor apps??

The Diamond is clearly a superior product to the Iphone (with the exception of the Iphone having more screen real estate). Everytime I turn around, my Iphone-toting colleagues have downloaded a new game from the App Store that uses the accelerometer (g-sensor), and they're really nice games with really nice graphics! I have to pretend not to be jealous of the selection they have at their disposal.
So with all the talent and dedicated WinMo people here, why do you guys think there are only 10+ games for the Diamond? Do you think the revenue that can be made through the Apple App Store is driving higher production for games? Maybe the Iphone is more of a "toy" to some folks and the Diamond is more of an enterprise tool? (Mine is both a toy AND an office tool!)
I love my Diamond... just wish there were some more cool games (like Super Monkey Ball ) that I could get for it!
And yes, if I had one shred of coding skill to my name, I'd start doing it myself... but I don't. The apps that have come out so far though for the Diamond are awesome. Keep 'em coming guys!

I think there are a few things.
1) More iPhones sold - Must be around 10 million vs only maybe 2.5 million Diamonds.
2) The iPhone actually officially supports the G-Sensor, vs the Diamond's API not being officially released.
3) More excitement around the iPhone as a toy.
However, I am in contact with Winplay, and they have said:
Hi ************
Yes, we are working on several games that will take advantage of the accelerometers in devices such as the HTC Touch Diamond… Lots of cool stuff coming out shortly…
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Surur

Yeah, what they said.
Plus, they had that open SDK project going for sometime before it was actually released and developers were smart enough to know, that anything Steve Jobs is excited about, will sale like hotcakes, thus the opportunity for ton's of money.

That's great news! Thanks!

Marketing. Lots and lots of marketing.

I have the diamond and my husband has the iphone. My very gadgety 6-year-old son loved the diamond when he first saw the teeter game. But then the iphone was brought home and even my not-so-keen 4-year-old daughter kept saying she wanted to play "cowabunga" (a very colorful free game from iphone). My son of course was hooked on the car racing game that we downloaded. So far, he just said once that the wallpaper on my diamond was pretty and he didn't play teeter anymore (probably it's not as colorful ).
So conclusion, iphone is much more like a toy than the diamond.
BTW, a side issue. I noticed that iphone's power management is superb compared to diamond. Iphone can last over 2 days with wifi and bluetooth on ALL THE TIME and some games and moderate use. I can't keep my wifi on for my diamond for more than 2 hours.... as I know it can't even last for half day if I do so. And yes, bluetooth on iphone is only an icon on the screen without any use. I kept it on just to show to my husband that it's useless. It's undiscoverable, unpairable..... even its very dear brother Mac book can't make any use with it.
Yes, don't worry. I am still in love with my diamond.

If you want to win your kid over, here are a small collection of games on the diamond he may be interested in.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=accelerometer-game
Surur

surur said:
If you want to win your kid over, here are a small collection of games on the diamond he may be interested in.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=accelerometer-game
Surur
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I still believe that diamond is a more powerful device but with respect to games.... I have to admit that diamond can't win over my kids. I am a bit embarrassed to show the kids those diamond "games", when they can touch and scare the fish in "Koi Pond", or having silly fun with bouncing and falling cows that moo, or driving BMW or Mercedez like crazy in LA street... Yeah yeah, I know unbelievable, but you have to see to admit (go to youtube and take a look at "Koi Pond", "Cowabunga", "Asphalt 4").

Asphalt 4 for is available for Windows mobile too, so it should work on your diamond?

it is not only the Gsen - but for sure screen size and how you "hold" the phones.
I will never ever buy aniPhone, but I do believe it is easier to play Gsen games on it. Kids +6 can not be fooled

no wonder why, have you checked the beer apps on the diamond? I dont mean to offence anyone but its like running at 2fps. And compared to the iphone its [email protected]
Etc....

Mr.Sir said:
Asphalt 4 for is available for Windows mobile too, so it should work on your diamond?
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Asphalt 4 doesn't support VGA screens unfortunately.

BarateaU said:
no wonder why, have you checked the beer apps on the diamond? I dont mean to offence anyone but its like running at 2fps. And compared to the iphone its [email protected]
Etc....
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I agree completely. Wish it looked more realistic like the Iphone one. But then again, it's not a make-or-break app for me.

If you really like games ! use a psp or nintendo ds. I also have an iphone and
the diamond . Playing games on the iphone is pain in the ass

hi
Keep in mind also the Diamond is relatively new compared iSuck phones, the diamond just hit the US market a few weeks now so its like the word hasent gotten arround to dev about the Diamond as yet, which would relate to what ppl say about marketing, htc hasent really put the diamond in the US yet.
Also imo the iphone is eye candy and that all it will ever be, the diamond on the other hand is all round mostly for seriouse customers for business and what not.

Is this thread really going on???
What the hell is this?
I demand CLOSE.
Its so out of the element.
We all know the ifhone sucks ballzzzz.
And its not only the "functions" of the phone.
We are talking about you being represented by the kindo phone you choose.
I'm terribly sorry to say this but....
I dont like people that choose a fagphone as a first phone and actually go ahead and show it of!
-When ever a nerd shows of his fruitphne in y presence I just think "ya dude you and another billion of sheeps got the same no big deal"
On the other hand we as Diamond users took the dip because we rather have "bugs" (which I dont because WinMob works like a swiss watch) than fall in the pleasing of the crowds as rotten fruit likes!
Remember Felllassss Second best they are!
Sorry if i pizzz of some people but some one has to do it!
Greetings to all.
PS:Forgot:
1. I rather have less "estate" but a VGA screen. Not a dirty 320 by 480 or what ever it has.
2. What ever your "mates" downloaded from a insanely proprietary site has a high chance of being payed for.(obviosly not Jewels case) I like to call it open source.
3. The Diamond is been out for less than year. The ugly fruit is on its "second" gen (same crap).
4.I run a buissness on my own and manage t do a lot through the Diamond and WinMobs awsome connection capabilitys. (those fruitys cant even FTP Bluetooth!)

Sergio PC said:
Is this thread really going on???
What the hell is this?
I demand CLOSE.
Its so out of the element.
We all know the ifhone sucks ballzzzz.
And its not only the "functions" of the phone.
We are talking about you being represented by the kindo phone you choose.
I'm terribly sorry to say this but....
I dont like people that choose a fagphone as a first phone and actually go ahead and show it of!
-When ever a nerd shows of his fruitphne in y presence I just think "ya dude you and another billion of sheeps got the same no big deal"
On the other hand we as Diamond users took the dip because we rather have "bugs" (which I dont because WinMob works like a swiss watch) than fall in the pleasing of the crowds as rotten fruit likes!
Remember Felllassss Second best they are!
Greetings to all.
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I'll put this in my own words middle of night and i cant get techinal.. "Apple = for beginners, Windows = Advanced users who like to have things run the way they want it too, when apple runs things their way, and u r stuck with it." >.>

the iphone has been out for more then a year now with an SDK package for developers, plus a lot of marketing. The diamond is still a baby, and also not even released in US in full potential. With MS building a app repository service and the diamond + touch pro getting more user base, I have the very confidence that we'll be seeing a lot of applications utilizing the G sensor in either utilities or gaming. I mean the things that marvels us already are the g sensor alarm clocks, locking mechinisms and the full ability to use gsen to redraw the screen in any orientation, something the iphone cannot do.
All I can say is give it time, with now the hardware standards rising for windows mobile, you can totally bet that there's going to be pleanty of applications out there utilizing the new technology.

bbju said:
I have the diamond and my husband has the iphone. My very gadgety 6-year-old son loved the diamond when he first saw the teeter game. But then the iphone was brought home and even my not-so-keen 4-year-old daughter kept saying she wanted to play "cowabunga" (a very colorful free game from iphone). My son of course was hooked on the car racing game that we downloaded. So far, he just said once that the wallpaper on my diamond was pretty and he didn't play teeter anymore (probably it's not as colorful ).
So conclusion, iphone is much more like a toy than the diamond.
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bbju,
don't forget the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys

I hate it when people say the Diamond is for the business user. I don't use it for business i bought the phone coz it looked good and had some cool features.
What is everyones problem. As soon as somebody requests a game or app that the iphone has you all cry like babies saying fuk your gayphone and all that ****. I'm starting to get worried coz the "Gayphone" has games in nearly every category so looks like we're not gonna get left with many.

[APP] [REQ] Tamagochi

Do you guys remember the Tamagochi (sp?) virtual pets that we used to get?
You had to feed them and train them and play with them and just generally try to keep tham alive.
I think just about everyone had one of those at some point or another, or at least played a little with a friend's to "check it out"
I think it'd be awesome if we could have an application/game that could bring back those fond memories with the great technology and features we have at our disposal.
Any takers for this task?

Would indeed be very cool to see this happen!

Monsterchef said:
no. think i would have to kill the diamond if it gets on my nerves...
poor diamond...
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Haha ! It would be an app! That we could shutup at any time, unlike those old school blasted beeping animal devices that started out like a pixelated blob on the screen with eyes

Whoa..
Yea.. I used to have one of those in my much younger days, and I don't mind trying it again!
Perhaps some kind of app that can stay in the background while "growing" and vibrate/beep when hungry, etc.
Imagine.. with great high resolution graphics, BT connectivity (sending yr pets to yr friend's phone ) ... the possibility are endless.
Just just need an expert on this

great!
This can be legendary

Been playing with my hero the past 5 days but...

Im now torn on whether to keep it or send it back. I got a brown sim free one delivered on friday morning after.much delibration and hesitation.
The hardware is very nice and solidly built...at least mine was. No gaps or anything of the sort.
Android and sense are both great...love them and I love the market place, which in my opinion is superior to the app store since.most apps are free and policy is less...draconian
I want to keep the device I really do.but its just not polished.enough and i know once the novelty wears off and reality sets in i'll most likely be frustrated when using it daily
I've noticed several issues:
-The keyboard works well for the most part with little lag but the spacebar sensitivity/responsiveness could be better. I still make more errors than I do on my iPhone as it loves giving me a period instead of a space
-During calls there's this annoying hiss that gives me a headache.
-Also during calls, sound gets distorted.if you raise the.volume beyond a.certain point and it makesit impossible to hear the other party properly
-Lags/stutters although mine doesn't seem as bad as others have pointed out. Just 1-2sec lags/jerkiness. However it becomes slightly more apparent when browsing the web and viewing photo albums.
-Finally music playback (which is very important to me) kinda sucks. It stutters even when you're not doing anything at all and sound quality is inferiorto the iPhone, very 'closed', poor 'dynamics', relatively weak max volume and no EQ whichis a big setback as mytracks are all EQ encoded> Now i could get revert to an iPod but that defeats the purpose of.an all-in-one smartphone
Anyway like I said I really wantto.keepthe phone but I wantedto know how HTC handles their updates. Apple is very.much on the ball when it.comes to updates in my experience,they optimize, fix bugs and.add.features so you know you're well covered. Does HTC do.the.same.or doyou have to.suck it up and.live with what is shipped to you
If HTC do it like Apple then i'll keep the phone. Otherwise, it means my switch to Android will haveto wait a while yet
Ps the reason my post reads.funny is because.I'm.typing this from.the device and.going back to fix every error.is a.PITA

Regarding the keyboard, have you tried calibrating it? Press the settings button on the keyboard, -> Text Input -> Calibration tool.

kiz said:
Regarding the keyboard, have you tried calibrating it? Press the settings button on the keyboard, -> Text Input -> Calibration tool.
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Yeah i have done the keyboard calibration which is why i'm surprised its still finicky. *Shrug*

-Finally music playback (which is very important to me) kinda sucks. It stutters even when you're not doing anything at all and sound quality is inferiorto the iPhone, very 'closed', poor 'dynamics', relatively weak max volume and no EQ whichis a big setback as mytracks are all EQ encoded> Now i could get revert to an iPod but that defeats the purpose of.an all-in-one smartphone
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That is a breaker for me. The purpose of my looking into android phone is to replace my iphone because I'm sick of the proprietary media expience ala itunes and the ipod player. I want to just plug my phone via usb into a puter (or copy to SDcard) and play the music or radio show directly from some file manager. Android does this well for, at least it did on the g1 I tested with no lag. An all in one device should be that...the iphone is that, if you can stand going thru the hoops to do what should be simple tasks.
The hero seems like a decent machine but there are one of two things (maybe both) that make it seem like an unfinished product: the interface shouldn't be laggy as it is and we shouldn't have to be fussing with standard widgets to get it to function smoothly as it should. I can see tweaking to make it run better than normal, but "normal" being laggy and "smooth" being tweaked isn't a good start. I don't know if this is the hardware limitation or a coding issue. HTC should have either done more testing on the software side or should have including better hardware specs than the magic since the hero is suppose to be an "upgrade" from the magic. I was about to get a hero, but there are too many mixed reviews to make it worth $600. I wanna ditch my iphone 2G for android and still have a 3.5mm jack at the top of the device...is that so hard to accomplish? Guess I'm holding out till later this year to see what else is placed on the table. I almost got a 288 magic but for that money, I might as well save for a better phone that has the 3.5mm jack.
If you are really that annoyed by it now and know yourself well enough to know that you'll be really pissed later after daily use, I would just sell it now on ebay or in the XDA market place while the selling is good. Sure, you could hold out to see what the software update is gonna do...but without more details on that update you're still risking afore mentioned buyers remorse.

El Droid said:
sound quality is inferiorto the iPhone, very 'closed', poor 'dynamics', relatively weak max volume
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Fair enough if you don't like the phone, get rid of it but if you want your music louder than Hero gives you you're gonna have to start thinking about a hearing aid in the future! At least based on my Hero, which is loud!
PS, I trust you'll change your user name to El Pod once you've gone back?

Have you tried typing in landscape mode with 2 thumbs I find it really quick. the portrait mode does suck a bit. also remember there are new updates coming.

megaoptimus said:
That is a breaker for me. The purpose of my looking into android phone is to replace my iphone because I'm sick of the proprietary media expience ala itunes and the ipod player. I want to just plug my phone via usb into a puter (or copy to SDcard) and play the music or radio show directly from some file manager. Android does this well for, at least it did on the g1 I tested with no lag. An all in one device should be that...the iphone is that, if you can stand going thru the hoops to do what should be simple tasks.
The hero seems like a decent machine but there are one of two things (maybe both) that make it seem like an unfinished product: the interface shouldn't be laggy as it is and we shouldn't have to be fussing with standard widgets to get it to function smoothly as it should. I can see tweaking to make it run better than normal, but "normal" being laggy and "smooth" being tweaked isn't a good start. I don't know if this is the hardware limitation or a coding issue. HTC should have either done more testing on the software side or should have including better hardware specs than the magic since the hero is suppose to be an "upgrade" from the magic. I was about to get a hero, but there are too many mixed reviews to make it worth $600. I wanna ditch my iphone 2G for android and still have a 3.5mm jack at the top of the device...is that so hard to accomplish? Guess I'm holding out till later this year to see what else is placed on the table. I almost got a 288 magic but for that money, I might as well save for a better phone that has the 3.5mm jack.
If you are really that annoyed by it now and know yourself well enough to know that you'll be really pissed later after daily use, I would just sell it now on ebay or in the XDA market place while the selling is good. Sure, you could hold out to see what the software update is gonna do...but without more details on that update you're still risking afore mentioned buyers remorse.
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Agreed and yeah...i'm starting to think this might be the way things end up unfortunately
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Fair enough if you don't like the phone, get rid of it but if you want your music louder than Hero gives you you're gonna have to start thinking about a hearing aid in the future! At least based on my Hero, which is loud!
PS, I trust you'll change your user name to El Pod once you've gone back?
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Its not my hearing i've never reached the max volume on my iPods/iPhones but frequently have to do so with the Hero. Maybe its specific to my unit.
robboy said:
Have you tried typing in landscape mode with 2 thumbs I find it really quick. the portrait mode does suck a bit. also remember there are new updates coming.
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I typed my post exclusively in landscape mode. I wouldn't even try portrait...unless for short text messages

I will admit that I'm quite confused regarding the lag issues. It does not seem to effect everyone and the ones it does effect consider a problem that if it were solved, the phone would be a fantastic upgrade from an iphone 3g or 2g. At times I hear it is just the live widgets, other times I hear it is just the software in general during media playback and browsing. I honestly don't know what to think and would love to have a means to test a hero as it is now. I'm not gonna upgrade to a 3gs...I'm still considering the hero but I'm going to wait for the software update and to see how things process for it on xda. I really see the potential in android and that is where I would like to stay if all works out..but I'm not so clear about the hero. Given my options and my needs, the the lag can be address with code optimization, then I think the hero is the best choice for me at this point. we'll see. if you're interested in selling it, let know price via PM. If you're any where near south central PA, perhaps I could give the thing a test run first if you don't mind.

I had the Hero, I could wait to get it. I was like a five year old waiting for santa! Anyway, bit dissapointed in it so reluctantly took it back and bought a PAYG iphone 3GS from O2.
Installed redSnow to jailbreak, then ultrasn0w to unlock and now i'm using it on Vodafone. Thank god for the iphone dev team.
The iphone just kicks the ass of the Hero all over the place. Music playback, Video Playback.. signal strength... battery....multitasking...everything. And if you think you might miss out on sense UI check this out:
http://justflikwalk.deviantart.com/art/iVillain-Beta-128791945
http://modmyi.com/forums/attachment...1247179088-beta-release-ivillain-img_0053.png
Jailbroken iphone with 3rd party apps is just unbeatable....game over. iphone wins again! Maybe Android next year?

I agree crappy music playback is terrible. speed is OK, quite laggy compared to an iphone 3G but bearable. Apparantly a rom update will arrive soon.
I'm thinking of returning to an iphone as well. No equalizer is like it's 1999.

mwatson said:
Jailbroken iphone with 3rd party apps is just unbeatable....game over. iphone wins again! Maybe Android next year?
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Maybe so but its also piracy

robboy said:
Maybe so but its also piracy
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....and you have a problem with this?

The iphone just kicks the ass of the Hero all over the place. Music playback, Video Playback.. signal strength... battery....multitasking...everything. And if you think you might miss out on sense UI check this out:
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I'll concede that a JB and unlocked iphone is pretty nice as far as apps and ease of us is concerned but the one thing it needs that it won't ever have is the ability to directly transfer files to the phone and manipulate easily. IE, copy a plain MP3 to the phone and play it in itunes or some 3rd party player without having to sync to itunes. the iphone is meant to appeal to folks that just want it to work and the iphone dev team has designed their stuff to match that philosphy. Unfortunately, the linux on iphone project, which was the great hope of getting android on the device isn't going anywhere fast due to lack of drivers for the hardware and what not. The Hero COULD have been a match but it isn't because it isn't consistently a postitive experience. This is why I'm waiting and am a little disappointed that the hero is in the state it is.

megaoptimus said:
I'll concede that a JB and unlocked iphone is pretty nice as far as apps and ease of us is concerned but the one thing it needs that it won't ever have is the ability to directly transfer files to the phone and manipulate easily. IE, copy a plain MP3 to the phone and play it in itunes or some 3rd party player without having to sync to itunes. the iphone is meant to appeal to folks that just want it to work and the iphone dev team has designed their stuff to match that philosphy. Unfortunately, the linux on iphone project, which was the great hope of getting android on the device isn't going anywhere fast due to lack of drivers for the hardware and what not. The Hero COULD have been a match but it isn't because it isn't consistently a postitive experience. This is why I'm waiting and am a little disappointed that the hero is in the state it is.
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you can transfer all sorts of files uising wifi discover. It turns the iphone into a wireless usb stick. If you transfer an mp3 it'll play it on the phone. Thats what i do. There is al alternative to itunes on Cydia. Even if you couldn't do that, the sacrifice is a small price to pay when you concider the iphone 3GS is just so slick.
Why can't other manufactures achieve what Apple has done here? Did they back engineer the iphone from a UFO wreck in Navada? BTW i'm no iphone fanboy. I've had HTC devices from the first orange SPV in 2003 right up to The Hero. There is no getting away from it, Palm, Samsung, HTC whoever just can't get close to Apple right now.

Have you tried using some better quality headphones? The ones supplied are rubbish and the ipod head phones are well......appalling (sound leakage to annoy everyone aroundyou and poor bass reproduction)!. Get some phones with a high sensitivity and no sound leakage you'll be surprised The biggest thing is that you don't need to crank up the volume for them to sound great and your ears will thank you for it
Noise isolation headphones are recommended (Sennheiser, Shure, Ultimate Ears) for the hero and for all mp3 players.
I'm using a pair of Ultimate Ears Metro Fi 220s

rickyb90 said:
Have you tried using some better quality headphones? The ones supplied are rubbish and the ipod head phones are well......appalling (sound leakage to annoy everyone aroundyou and poor bass reproduction)!. Get some phones with a high sensitivity and no sound leakage you'll be surprised The biggest thing is that you don't need to crank up the volume for them to sound great and your ears will thank you for it
Noise isolation headphones are recommended (Sennheiser, Shure, Ultimate Ears) for the hero and for all mp3 players.
I'm using a pair of Ultimate Ears Metro Fi 220s
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I never even took the stock earbuds out of the box. Been alternating between V-Moda Vibe Duos and Bose Quiet Comforts

mwatson said:
The iphone just kicks the ass of the Hero all over the place.....multitasking...
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Multitasking? Are you kidding? That's the reason I never got an iPhone, it doesn't multitask at all.
Plus, music playback is crap on all handsets. I'll always have a stand-alone media player because I care how my music sounds so yes, music playback is crap on the Hero but it's crap on the iPod (and iPhone) too.
And sense UI on the iPhone? Not quite. A few icons copied from the Hero but they aint no widgets.
Each to their own I guess though. I used an iPhone and it just wasn't good enough, too simplified for me. I'm quite techy tho so I like the open source of Android and the customisation etc.

Switchbitch said:
Multitasking? Are you kidding? That's the reason I never got an iPhone, it doesn't multitask at all.
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If you don't count playing music whilst browsing the web or any other task, and background checking your email / calendar sync... but it sure sounds like multitasking to me
And all because you can't choose other apps to have open in the background dosn't mean it can't multitask 'at all'. And lord just look at the Hero (slowwww/laggggg) as a case point why multitasking might not always be the best way to go about a mobile phone operating system.

I don't know if talking about lag is a valid point as I, and many others have experienced no lag at all, even during intense useage.
Personally, I understand that many people are experiencing lag issues but I'm keen to see what happens with this update coming out soon.
And background processing/multitasking is absoultely vital for a smartphone OS.

Switchbitch said:
Multitasking? Are you kidding? That's the reason I never got an iPhone, it doesn't multitask at all.
Plus, music playback is crap on all handsets. I'll always have a stand-alone media player because I care how my music sounds so yes, music playback is crap on the Hero but it's crap on the iPod (and iPhone) too.
And sense UI on the iPhone? Not quite. A few icons copied from the Hero but they aint no widgets.
Each to their own I guess though. I used an iPhone and it just wasn't good enough, too simplified for me. I'm quite techy tho so I like the open source of Android and the customisation etc.
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Goto Cydia > download "Backgrounder" and multitask as much as you want!
I'm a techy too, but the Hero just doesn't impress. Jailbreak an iphone and become a geeky as you want. Widgets on lock screen and the springboard.
The iphone apps are like a 100 years ahead of android! one day android will be great. Just not today.

What are the coolest things you do with your HD2

Hey guys, share with us what are the coolest things you use your HD2 for.
1. Listening to internet radio and watching tv/news
2. Checking my home webcam, no matter where I am (hamachi for connecting and VLC player for broadcasting)
3. Playing youtube videos while at a Dj gig (playing songs customers request and I don't have in my collection)

Composing my own Songs with SunVox-Tracker
I do some Tracks with SunVox.
It's very funny looking at the peoples face while I record myself singing in the train

Playing final fantasy ix on fpsece tends to blow peoples minds, but use the HD2 for everything from movies, music to comics and books, and even throw in a phone call every now and then

Yep, for me, FpseCE is the coolest thing about the phone. Everyone I show, wants an HD2 immediatly after it. Can't thank the developers enough.

Morphgear or FpseCE whilst listenting to some tunes tends to be my fav thing to do on the way to work.
Always turns some heads when I'm sat there playing Tekken 2 on my phone ... lol

The coolest thing i did was sell it on ebay because it sucked ass.
Now i have a different phone that works perfectly.

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TheDynamo said:
The coolest thing i did was sell it on ebay because it sucked ass.
Now i have a different phone that works perfectly.
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Then why are you hanging around the HD2 forum? Miss it?

TheDynamo said:
The coolest thing i did was sell it on ebay because it sucked ass.
Now i have a different phone that works perfectly.
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And if that is true (iphone sniffer?) it will be in better hands, for sure...

biokeks said:
I do some Tracks with SunVox.
It's very funny looking at the peoples face while I record myself singing in the train
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never heard of it and I'm now checking it out - thank you very much

TheDynamo said:
The coolest thing i did was sell it on ebay because it sucked ass.
Now i have a different phone that works perfectly.
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Well what do you expect when you have (clearly) been holding a pile of **** far, far to long... Iphone.
Best thing for me is by far FPSEce. I love it when i wip out Grantrismo, and the iphone users stuck with 'jellycar' just turn in shame MUHAHAHAH

I like the forums (when the fan boys arn't looking through rose coloured spectacles and actually admit the faults anyway) I also find the work interesting, along with the Android porting discussions etc.
I liked the phone, it had a lot of potential, but it just didnt perform.

TheDynamo said:
I liked the phone, it had a lot of potential, but it just didnt perform.
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Can you give some substance to your statement? I want to know why you think that is true.
I don't have HD2. I currently have a HTC Dream, Android.

I'm going to try to stay on topic
I love SportyPal, it boosted my runs, both frequency and length. Besides that I use it for e-mail, surf the web, watch youtube movies on it, and use it as a windows remote...
Lovely phone.

HD2 is great for video playback. No other phone can play normal SD AVIs without conversion (though 3 years old phone-less Palm T5 could as well). Or you can convert HD video to exact display dimensions, use mp4 format and built-in player .. and it looks just great.
Big screen is cool for maps, PDFs, manga.
But what I do with most please is using it as a torch when going to bed.

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HD2 is great for video playback. No other phone can play normal SD AVIs without conversion
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Er, sorry, but thats just not true. The Samsung i8000 and i8910 both can (along with a few other Samsung and LG handsets), the TG01 also does. I owned the i8910 before having the HD2, and actually its avi playback is much better (and looks better on the AMOLED screen), including its 720p playback.
I'm not saying the HD2 isn't a great phone, I love it and wouldn't go back to the i8910 (which is also very good in its own right), but lets stick to facts here eh?
Coolest things would be FPSece, although I really enjoy G-Remote when my laptops plugged into the television playing video/music, its hardly new but certainly ellicits a good response from people.

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But what I do with most please is using it as a torch when going to bed.
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lol +1......

The coolest thing I did was to show some iPhone users that their fruity phone cannot do what my HD2 can do. The expression on their faces was priceless, money can't buy.
I want to thank all the chefs and developers here to make the HD2 really great.

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The coolest thing I did was to show some iPhone users that their fruity phone cannot do what my HD2 can do. The expression on their faces was priceless, money can't buy.
I want to thank all the chefs and developers here to make the HD2 really great.
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what did you show them?

the screen? duh? The screen is enough for them....

Woooo-oh! My first iPhone experience!!

I think that up untill now, I've always been an Android FB because if I'm spending 500 quid of my hard-earned....I've always felt that it's my right, to be able to do with that device, what I want to do with it via GUI customisations etc...
In saying that, I've never actually personally owned an Apple device of any kind, it's just I don't like the way they want to nail everyone down to their locked-in OS!!
But today, I received an iPhone 4 that my (sheep-like) son wanted for his birthday, so I just HAD to have a little dabble with it, just to see what the worlds' facination is with this iconic device......
Yes, it's pretty slick when flicking through it's various menu's (so's my GS2 too though....!!) and yes, the display's nice too, but...so's my GS2!! And the browser's pretty nifty as well.... but so is my GS2....
But why is it so...*small*?? It seems like the little brother to the GS2....!! But.... it's even thicker than the GS2...why's that?
Ok then, transfer all the tunes (on his adjacent iPod) to his new iPhone....Erm, can't do that....got to go through iTunes to do that...!!
Why??
"Dunno....just have to! (Baaa- aaaaa - aaaaa!!!) ....iPhone promptly put back into it's box.....
I'm sticking with proper 'usable' phones.....
Go Android/Samsung!!!!!

Good on you for actually trying it out!
I've used an iPhone for a little longer than you, believe you me the niggles get more frustrating. The "easy to use"ness of the iPhone has a HUGE learning curve when you actually have to do something more advanced (VPN, Proxy settings, Exchange mail servers etc.) all of which university / college students will be forced to use at some point, along with anyone working in a highly computerised environment.
The iPhone doesn't lag / crash at all when freshly activated (Like android devices). Start using them and after a few months it starts to resemble some of the older android devices.. The butter-smooth scrolling gets laggy / jerky and apps being to stutter and crash, more than once I was forced to reboot it (Holding the power button for what feels like forever as you can't just pop-out the battery)
But I agree it's the size that's the real killer here.. Also (sadly) the retina display is ruined by screen protectors. So in that regard brighter / more vivid colours (AMOLED+) > Pixels. I'm guessing this'll also be present on the upcoming HD android devices (Thank goodness for gorilla glass!)

i used ipod touch 4 before and almost bought Iphone 4. but things i dont like about apple is you need to sync things with itunes. i was like "whattt?"
that kind of things holding me back from using iphone. until i saw android phone. everything can be done easily... from transferring files to installing apps. it's cool.

"University" and "Exchange mail server" in one sentence? <<shudder>>
Sysadmins with a penchant for working at academia who utter that combination of words in between breaths should be sent on a penal expedition to C***a for that!
<<God's son>>, there's more than a zillion choices for mail servers that werent procured at gunpoint from some poor now derelict carcass of a company by some rascals from Redmond. Ugh.
Sendmail for the masses. Or even Lotus Domino, for all I care, if you really need a piece of paper with '$'s on it for every piece of software you use. But pleeze stay away from E%$©[email protected]!
//rant off

I always miss the back button when using any iPod touch/iPhone

I normally refer to Apple devices with a prefix 'Shi' which stands for '****e' for example ShiPhone, ShiPad, ShiPod, ShiMac etc... because that's what they are in my opinion!
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I had an iPhone 3G, before I moved to Android with HTC Desire and now SGS2. I had this feeling that they were about on par, but now, by a combination of a number of factors, I got iPhone 4s. Got to say, totally agree with all things above, especially the size. It always have a liberating feeling when picking up my SGS2, after iPhone.
I understand that there might be people who think that dealing with iTunes is great, or exchange, or not being able to quickly make any custom ringtone, copy movies, files (had a very frustrating experience with ringtones, gave it up only after added three, at a cost of one hour). And for all the hype, it is certainly a superb device. But for the things I do and need, I think android wins, hands down. It feels like android has moved on, iOS hasn't.
Just my thoughts.

I can look back at a 2 year experience of ipod nano using. I bought it because friends told me how cool and stylish it is to have an i-device. The advantage of beeing able to hang it around my neck came at the price of incomptible wallcharger notices, distorted album covers, being forced to use iTunes for things my old player did on the go,...
I also had a psp which required videos to be converted just like iPhone does. And every now and then when I was already sitting on the plane, train,... I found out that something went wrong with the conversion.
Lessons learned: Never ever will I buy a mobile device, that requires a PC or any additional software. Never!!

Willie_Heckerslyke said:
"Dunno....just have to! (Baaa- aaaaa - aaaaa!!!) ....iPhone promptly put back into it's box.....
I'm sticking with proper 'usable' phones.....
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Yeah, iPhone is so unusable. That's why they are selling millions of them each week.

OP - Hope you washed your hands afterwards ?
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Yes. Of course millions of muppets can't be wrong Stunning bit of logic there champ.
aydc said:
Yeah, iPhone is so unusable. That's why they are selling millions of them each week.
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Yeah, iPhone is so unusable. That's why they are selling millions of them each week.
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Just found out millions of people like short and fat things....

This thread is stupid.
I mean, Yay! Appul is teh stoopodz!
Sent from my SGS II

Child number 1 wanted an ipod nano. I have no grudge against apple products (just their cultish attitude). She was warned the itunes would not be installed on my computer (due to previous problems I've had to fix on friends' computers).
I found a free program called sharepod, which allows drag and drop between the nano and compurer (music, video, pictures).
How many of us would prefer our SGSII to be a couple of milimetres thicker just to get an extra day of battery life?

Me honestly, though I love to joke about Iphone, it's ok phone. It doesn't lag (atleast on begining), and it has all applications and things like that. But me being me, I love to be able to do anything I want. I always like to try things, whether on my PC or on my phone. If that means I'll have 10x to reboot it until I don't come up with some solution, then It's ok. The more you touch, the more you learn.
Reason why I never wanted Iphone is strictly - apple policy and itunes. My sister have some Ipod, I installed Itunes on mine PC and my father. He had to delete it because his PC went laggy after it. I ahd to delete it because I simple don't want programs on my PC that are for nothing.
To each his own, my friend owns an Iphone 4 and he actually plays around with it, not just use it to be cool.

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Yeah, iPhone is so unusable. That's why they are selling millions of them each week.
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I believe heroin and cocaine are quite popular too - quite 'more-ish' apparently...
There's probably something relatively witty/erudite to be said along the lines of opiates for the masses, but I can't be arsed frankly.

These Apple vs. Android threads never really end up well.
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