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Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.
bee976 said:
Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.
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Sorry to report, the only option of unrooting is RUU, and this requires HTC Synch and a definate recognition on your PCs part.
Suggestions, anyone?
What version of Windows are you running? I have had issues with Windows 7 in the past. As weird as it sounds once I loaded PDAnet from the market on to my phone and the PDAnet client onto my computer. My phone was recognized. Is your computer charging the phone when plugged in?
its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!
This brings up another question....
What does Sprint actually check?
Do you really have to get back to 100% stock, or would putting the original recovery image on get you through?
Any current or former Sprint techs willing to chime in? Just how perfect do we have to get it?
chavo2005 said:
its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!
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Actually, that just might work! Great idea chavo, very intuitive thinking!
I take back my last statement. I read somewhere flashrec doesnt work after youv flashed your imahe....google the unlockrs method on flashing a new recovery once already rooted; i think it involves some adb though :-(
Idk, thats as much as i know
I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.
chavo2005 said:
I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.
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Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?
mountaindont said:
Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?
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I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)
subliminalurge said:
I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)
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Your nandroid wont work on another phone, and if it did, it would synch your contacts to their phones, passwords, apps, the whole shindig. Bad idea
We'll have to beg a dev for a stock 1.5 rom
you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean
chavo2005 said:
you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean
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Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me
mountaindont said:
Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me
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Nandroid is device specific to a point.. If you go in to the nandroid folder on the SD card you will see a folder labled HT********** that is specific to your phone, however you can take a nandroid from another phone and place it in that folder and backup from that.
i'd do the RUU but i'm using the updated radio.
I use a mac, but if indeed it isn't the windows driver, and you have tried other roms, then it only leaves the kernel (and the usb cable and phone usb hwd ).
So use what ever methods you used for the rom flashing, and flash a kernel.
Some ideas : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625940&page=1
( start at page 1 )
Just a thought.
isn't the nandroid image made right AFTER you root?
so then, that wouldn't be what you want.
Extract the stock rom from the RUU
ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
Wow thank you everyone for all of the advice, i had all but given up hope since I had been all over google looking for an answer for about 2 weeks. I will try the nandroid backup above and report back. thank you everyone again, you may have just saved me an insurance claim.
Wow, glad I found this thread. I'm downloading that nandroid image right now because I'm going to probably end up taking my Hero in to get the dust cleaned out later this week. I think another option would be to extract the RUU and get the ROM.zip out of it, and then just flash that.
chavo2005 said:
ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Ok I tried this and I am still rooted afterwards. I think that if you go to the sprint store and they can hit volume down and power, and get to the recovery menu then they will not take it back, no matter if the rom u are running is stock or not. any other ideas?
Ok I had my phone rooted and had voodoo on it. The phone was having issues downloading from the market, plus I couldnt turn the phone on unless i had it pluged in. So I tried to reset it using odin and the Stock-i500-VZW-Recovery.tar.md5. Now when I turn the phone on i get the android application has an uxpected error and I cant get past that. What do I do? Or how can I get my phone back to stock so I can re-root it.
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Ok I had my phone rooted and had voodoo on it. The phone was having issues downloading from the market, plus I couldnt turn the phone on unless i had it pluged in. So I tried to reset it using odin and the Stock-i500-VZW-Recovery.tar.md5. Now when I turn the phone on i get the android application has an uxpected error and I cant get past that. What do I do? Or how can I get my phone back to stock so I can re-root it.
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Jeff,
See this post for returning to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204. I would do this as a last resort only.
Good Luck!
that is what got me to this problem. there are multiple files there what one do i use?
You apply them in the order they are listed.
1. Apply the "/system" file first
2. Apply the "kernel" file second
3. Apply thie "recovery" file third
This restores stock /system, the stock kernel, and the stock recovery. Pretty much brings you back to stock. Is that what you're trying to do?
I was having the same issues with USB cable looking like it was plugged in so I couldn't reboot unless it was plugged. I tried the voodoo uninstall and screwed up my data partition.
I ended up restoring the CWM_Kernel and Di01 Stock update which brought me back to stock with root and OTA update from Verizon BUT my Data partition is screwed and I have no internal app memory. Also, I have an Nandroid backup that I tried to install but that causes the FC issues that you mentioned. My guess is that my nandroid backup will work once I fix the data partition.
Later tonight, I'm going to try to put the stock MBR back onto the phone which I think you need to do as well.
However, it sounds like you didn't complete the whole recovery process and only applied one file. I'm an android newby so you can't take my advice to the bank but I think you need to restore all the files if you're going to flash with Odin per those instructions.
For me, I had CWM loaded so I just wiped the kernel and put back the DI01 ROM which put me back to stock albeit with some work to do to get my data partition back in shape. I hope this helped, for what it's worth.
Since you've already got the original.mbr copied and the stock.zip flashed...
Boot into CWM recovery and wide data/cache.
If you have a CWM backup of your phone in a rooted state, restore that backup through CWM.
Reboot, and go into "settings" if possible at this point, and factory reset.
This got me back from market failure/0.00/fc hell after utterly failing to heed the voodoo warnings and trying to revert to stock without undoing the lagfix.
You'll likely need to use the unsigned d101 apk if your backup/flash is dh12. The OTA update did not work for me at that point.
phispher said:
You apply them in the order they are listed.
1. Apply the "/system" file first
2. Apply the "kernel" file second
3. Apply thie "recovery" file third
This restores stock /system, the stock kernel, and the stock recovery. Pretty much brings you back to stock. Is that what you're trying to do?
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My question is do i use the phone. pda or csc buttons for these files?
Ok in Odin use the PDA button for the /system
but what button do i use in odden to load the kernal.tar and recovery.tar
i loaded the pit, and installed all the files using the pda button one after the other. now my phone get no service and it still isnt wiped. what is going on? how do i get the phone back to out of the box condition.
also, now i cant do a factory wipe/reset, im getting the error message Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1
Gotta do the mbr fix from the 0.00 internal memory topic and then restore nandroid recovery.
Oh, and it is PDA for all three files, not just system.
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i have the same problem n i havent had a phone for a
week...whats the fix??? did u fix urs??
trapstarr56 said:
i have the same problem n i havent had a phone for a
week...whats the fix??? did u fix urs??
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Use the uninstaller form Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804784
If that does not solve it, follow the steps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204
Read all pages of each topic completely prior to initiating *either* of them.
I downloaded the new update and installed it. Took me forever to get my root back but I finally got the phone where I want it. Unfortunately, the droid x is still trying to download the update which keeps failing. I contacted Motorola and they told me to do a factory rest and that might resolve the problem but they were unsure. How do I tell the phone it is up to date without having to reset everything?
If you do a factory reset, and the OS version is not .340, then the update did not work.
*DISCLAIMER - This Can Be Dangerous*
I would suggest using RSD Lite and the. 340 SBF to update the DX to the latest software version.
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I did the update already and the system shows 2.3.340. All I am trying to change is the phone trying to download the update and continually failing.
I don't want to do a factory reset unless it is the last resort. I do have RSD Lite but I am a little leery of flashing the phone. Is there a full SBF file available for the 2.3.340 or can I just run the update again?
Sorry for all the questions I just don't want to brick the phone and I am new to all of this.
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I did the update already and the system shows 2.3.340. All I am trying to change is the phone trying to download the update and continually failing.
I don't want to do a factory reset unless it is the last resort. I do have RSD Lite but I am a little leery of flashing the phone. Is there a full SBF file available for the 2.3.340 or can I just run the update again?
Sorry for all the questions I just don't want to brick the phone and I am new to all of this.
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If the phone keeps trying to update, then something is likely corrupt with the software. Try this as a test:
Reboot into Clockwork Recovery
Make a Nandroid backup
Do a factory reset and also wipe cache and data
Reboot and see if you still have .340 and get prompted for the update
If you still have .340 and get prompted, then you will most likely have to SBF and start over. You can always restore the Nandroid backup to go back to your original settings and data.
OK, I will try that. Noob question though, do I need to unroot before factory reset? If so, will I also need to delete superuser.apk or will the reset delete all of that?
Thanks for all your help.
There is no need to remove root first. If you lose it in the restore just run z4root again.
Also, just to clarify my last post, the Nandroid backup would only be used if a reset doesn't fix the problem. You would then be able to restore everything back and use a program like Titanium Backup to save your data in a format that could be restored over top of a new ROM.
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Thanks for all your help and patience. Just one more bank of questions before I start this. Do I need to rename the bloatware I changed after rooting or will the reset take care of that? Once I reset, I will need to reroot to install the backup with Droid X bootstrap, correct? Lastly, worse case scenario I have to SBF to start over, is there a full 2.3.340 SBF out there?
There is a version of .340 that has most of the components of an SBF, but it is not the actual full release. I have .320 Full and .340 System-Only on my machine, and I used them both when first updating. After the .320 update is successful, you will only need the .340 System-Only until a newer one is leaked.
Once done with both SBF files, you will use Motorola's recovery to do a Format Cache and also a Factory Reset. This will put everything back to the day you opened the phone, without root and Clockwork.
When ready to root again, install z4root (available here on XDA), reboot, then run z4root and finally, install DX Bootstrapper. You will be all set to use Root Explorer and remove the bloat all over again. Before removing the bloat, I strongly suggest creating a Nandroid backup so that you can easily get it all back in the event you need to do a warranty exchange and the USB port stops working.
So here's the latest. Did a Nandroid back up and then cleared the cache followed by a factory reset. I didn't unroot or even flash the SBF files just to see what happened. The root was still there. I had to download root explorer again along with launcherpro but otherwise the phone was good to go. Checked system updates and low and behold, it was up to date!! So far it is working just fine, had to reinstall the apps I had before that I liked but all in all it's right where it needs to be. Thank you NotATreoFan for all your help.
On a side note, I had rooted the phone via the terminal emulator so I don't know if that made a difference in keeping the root. z4root may give different results.
Glad to hear it worked for you.
Hey guys, just sharing this with everyone. Maderschramm over at droidforums and droidxforums has packaged an update zip for 2.3.340. It can be used as an alternative to SBFing or to update you if you haven't already.
Install- Make a backup first
1. Download zip
2. Boot into clockwork recovery
3. Install zip from sd
4. Reboot
5. Activate phone
IMPORTANT
BE SURE TO REBOOT AFTER INSTALLING ZIP. DO NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE IN CLOCKWORK RECOVERY PRIOR TO REBOOT. YOU WILL BRICK.
You will lose root, but you will also still have all apps and contacts.
Read this thread prior to doing the install. There's some helpful tips from Maderschramm.
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/15666-maderstcok-ota-2-3-340-update-zip.html
Mirror 1
http://ubuntuone.com/p/XAk/
Mirror 2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4AO672L1
good find. I am going to download and store away for a rainy day ota update. I hate sbf and rsdlite. And although I appreciate all that the black hat does - having to do like 20 (exaggeration) installs in clock work makes me a little nervous.
so good on ya mate.
that's why after i SBF 2.3.320 i always go straight into Android recovery before booting up and Factory Reset there, then boot up. But i guess everybody has there own way of doing things.
Ya, this is an easy alternative to get everyone to a clean 2.3.340. If you're on 2.3.15, 2.3.320, or 2.3.340 this will definetly come in handy.
Wonderful. I just left a stock rom literally today and realized I lost corporate email access with Gummy. That is a deal-breaker and obviously I didn't research it well enough before doing it. I NEED to get back to stock regardless of how painful it is. So this will unroot me, just Z4 again afterwards I take it?
Correct it will unroot and remove bootstrap. So after rebooting then use z4 and grab bootstrap again.
Very nice, thank you! Hopefully I never need to use it!
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Hopefully we wont need to use it, but at least we will feel better about doing this rather than an SBF.
Droid-Xer said:
Ya, this is an easy alternative to get everyone to a clean 2.3.340. If you're on 2.3.15, 2.3.320, or 2.3.340 this will definetly come in handy.
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I don't know about 2.3.15 When I did it on that, I bricked and ended up having
to SBF to .320 and using the patches to get to .340
forever29 said:
I don't know about 2.3.15 When I did it on that, I bricked and ended up having
to SBF to .320 and using the patches to get to .340
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Reasons for bricking:
Installing zip as an update.zip
Doing anything else in bootstrap after installing zip
Soft brick (factory reset will bring it back)
Thanks This has saved me more than once while working on cracking the bootloader
Hrmm I ran this directly from having Apex and it didnt like it. Seemed to not fully wipe the phone at all. Im guessing I didnt read something all the way. I simply went to clockwork and loaded the file and rebooted. When it came back my system was still intact, but everything was force closing.
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Hrmm I ran this directly from having Apex and it didnt like it. Seemed to not fully wipe the phone at all. Im guessing I didnt read something all the way. I simply went to clockwork and loaded the file and rebooted. When it came back my system was still intact, but everything was force closing.
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Doing a factory reset seemed to put it back to normal
It will update or bring you back to clean 2.3.340. You will lose root and bootstrap, but you will keep all apps and setup.
does anyone have any alternate DL links? it keeps hanging no matter which link I use.
Got it going. Honestly though, who uses Megaupload anymore?
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i won't try to install until file size matches
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Hrmm I ran this directly from having Apex and it didnt like it. Seemed to not fully wipe the phone at all. Im guessing I didnt read something all the way. I simply went to clockwork and loaded the file and rebooted. When it came back my system was still intact, but everything was force closing.
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You didn't wipe cache and factory reset before install
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If you don't wipe data/cache prior to install then you will have the same setup and apps, only you will have lost root and bootstrap. If you want a clean start then wipe data/cache then install zip.
WOW Droid X saver
Man this saved my Droid X from sure bricking, thankyou very much uploader
So I've been trying to flash back to factory, and I got RSD Lite and the SBF file, and the program and everything recognizes the phone in bootloader.
However, when I go to run the process, it goes through 'creating disk image' really fast, then says 'phone is not compatible with multi-interface super-file'.
What do I do? I didn't brick it, but It won't boot, all I get is the boot image till it runs out of battery.
HELP??
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So I've been trying to flash back to factory, and I got RSD Lite and the SBF file, and the program and everything recognizes the phone in bootloader.
However, when I go to run the process, it goes through 'creating disk image' really fast, then says 'phone is not compatible with multi-interface super-file'.
What do I do? I didn't brick it, but It won't boot, all I get is the boot image till it runs out of battery.
HELP??
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Make sure to plug the phone in to the wall charger and let it charge to a full charge. Then unplug the wall charger, pull the battery. Then plug the wall charger back in with the battery still out. Put the battery back in and power up the phone. It should boot to bootstrap recovery. From there, you can restore a backup.
As for SBF: Are you on 2.3.340? If so, flash this file via bootstrap recovery:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4AO672L1
This is maderstcok .340. It is basically a clean system flashable zip that is pre-rooted. Will get you back to a clean slate.
ONLY USE THIS if you are 2.3.32 leak or 2.3.34 already. Here is the original page about it on droidxforums:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/15666-maderstcok-ota-2-3-340-update-zip.html
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Make sure to plug the phone in to the wall charger and let it charge to a full charge. Then unplug the wall charger, pull the battery. Then plug the wall charger back in with the battery still out. Put the battery back in and power up the phone. It should boot to bootstrap recovery. From there, you can restore a backup.
As for SBF: Are you on 2.3.340? If so, flash this file via bootstrap recovery:
This is maderstcok .340. It is basically a clean system flashable zip that is pre-rooted. Will get you back to a clean slate.
ONLY USE THIS if you are 2.3.32 leak or 2.3.34 already. Here is the original page about it on droidxforums:
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Ok, charging now. What if I don't have a backup? It's not my phone, and I can't guarantee this guy was smart enough to do one...
Then download the maderstcok file on your pc, move to your sd, manually boot into clockwork and install the zip from sd. It will work on any system version from 2.3.15 and up. If that doesn't work and there's no backup. Try wiping data/cache and reboot.
And if you're SBFing what is the bootloader?
For 30.04 you need the full SBF for 2.3.320 or system only 2.3.340 along with rsdlite 4.8+
For 30.03 you need the full SBF for 2.3.15 or 2.3.320 along with rsdlite 4.6+
So do I have this right? If I am on 2.3.340 there is no need to sbf? Simply use the maderstock image and restore it to be back to stock and that will accept OTA updates?
rocko73 said:
So do I have this right? If I am on 2.3.340 there is no need to sbf? Simply use the maderstock image and restore it to be back to stock and that will accept OTA updates?
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Yes, you could use Maderstcok if you feel more comfortable flashing files. Just an FYI in case you didnt know, there is now a full 2.3.340 sbf... You can find it at mydroidworld
I also have a link in my guide in the Droid X general forum
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Yes, you could use Maderstcok if you feel more comfortable flashing files. Just an FYI in case you didnt know, there is now a full 2.3.340 sbf... You can find it at mydroidworld
I also have a link in my guide in the Droid X general forum
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Nice info. One quick question. I have never had to reactivate my phone after installing any of these roms. Is using the sbf file or maderstock different than doing a factory wipe/reset is I were already bone stock?
rocko73 said:
Nice info. One quick question. I have never had to reactivate my phone after installing any of these roms. Is using the sbf file or maderstock different than doing a factory wipe/reset is I were already bone stock?
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by these ROMs.... The files being suggested are SBF files, which are used to return your phone to an "out of the box" state depending on which Verizon update you are running off of.
for your second question, yes the SBF of maderstcok file is different that a factory reset/data wipe. All that the factory reset/data wipe does is erase your downloaded apps, and personal data such as accounts (gmail, etc).
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by these ROMs.... The files being suggested are SBF files, which are used to return your phone to an "out of the box" state depending on which Verizon update you are running off of.
for your second question, yes the SBF of maderstcok file is different that a factory reset/data wipe. All that the factory reset/data wipe does is erase your downloaded apps, and personal data such as accounts (gmail, etc).
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Sorry, I meant Roms as in Rubix, Apex, etc. I understand now though. Thanks again.
rocko73 said:
Sorry, I meant Roms as in Rubix, Apex, etc. I understand now though. Thanks again.
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No problem. If you have issues or questions, check out my guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940986
If you sbf,or flash madertstock you will have to reactivate your phone. Its painless dial *228, press 1, provide last 4 of ssn if prompted, wait for process to finish it may take while do not pull battery.
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I think I may have messed up...
Got Droid X Bootstrapper loaded, made a back up. Forgot to wipe, and installed Liberty 1.5, rebooted... Liberty Installed. Now on reboot all I get is Liberty and the wings going around in circles over and over again.
Ugh! Anyone got any ideas?
I think I might have fixed it. Got into Bootstrap recovery mode and was able to reload my back up.
This time, back up THEN WIPE! Grrrrrr
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I think I might have fixed it. Got into Bootstrap recovery mode and was able to reload my back up.
This time, back up THEN WIPE! Grrrrrr
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yes, first rule of thumb should always be to make a backup before changing anything such as theme/ROM... unless you feel you have nothing to lose =)
Now to run a back up again and then WIPE... forgot to wipe last time. So I'm sure it was trying to load both boot files. Looked like Liberty was going to work. But, it wound up in an endless loading screen with the wings spinning.