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hello everyone,
its sad to say but (is it just me) seems as thought developments on our tab have ceased. there have been no beta no news nothing........
its a shame such a potential device.....
ah well......
That is not true. Currently some users are working on getting ubuntu to run on the galaxy ran natively.
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There is a bounty on the tab
just wait...
Probably the devs are taking a deep look into the Honeycomb ports. The Tab was made for it and I´m sure as soon as a Samsung Honeycomb Dump hits the ground, We will be using it in no time.
There is currently a bounty on the tab for a modem that allows 3G and voice at the same time. I'm guessing that many of the devs are currently working on a solution to the problem. This is going to take some time and skill to solve.
Another issue is Honeycomb. I'm betting that most of the devs are busy trying to get at the Honeycomb code so that they can begin trying to port it to the tab.
These developers have lives (jobs, families, etc.) outside of developing and many of them can't spend a great deal of their spare time trying to solve issues that the rest of us have.
They'll be here soon enough. Have patience.
Yea don't worry, this device is still popular, and because the new tab is 10.1. So i'm sure many people will still prefer this for mobility reason. Spring is around the corner
wow..positive
wow.. lovely to see so much positivness(is this even a word)
and really hope that they are cooking up something that would leave us WOW.
moments like this i wish i paid more attention in class and maybe learned to program.
as you can see DEVELOPER FOR OUR DEVICE we have faith in you guys...
keep it up.. and we know its stressful with wives..kids...work...ecc
Also a bit of good news from Samsung deciding that their first Honeycomb tablet will be a 10" model likely means the current Tab will continue to be sold for a while longer. If they had released a replacement that was the same size it would have pretty much killed any additional sales of the current model.
Yeah as soon as the honeycomb source hits aosp it will go boom
The development might be a little slower compared to other devices but hey, slowly but steady just be patient.... the tab will rock!
No boom that I heard but the source is available.
All I want for a early christmas is a vanilla froyo rom with overclocking ability
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godwinvandamme said:
wow.. lovely to see so much positivness(is this even a word)
and really hope that they are cooking up something that would leave us WOW.
moments like this i wish i paid more attention in class and maybe learned to program.
as you can see DEVELOPER FOR OUR DEVICE we have faith in you guys...
keep it up.. and we know its stressful with wives..kids...work...ecc
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The word your looking for is positivity
I think the reason for slow development is due to the price of the device. Especially with the new devices coming out...people will start developing less and less. That's just my guess.
From the Tab.
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godwinvandamme said:
hello everyone,
its sad to say but (is it just me) seems as thought developments on our tab have ceased. there have been no beta no news nothing........
its a shame such a potential device.....
ah well......
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Did you look in the development forum?
Samsung are about to launch not one new Tablet (10.1") but a second (8.9") quite soon.
almostinsane said:
No boom that I heard but the source is available.
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of honeycomb? Gingerbread is the latest on AOSP, checked 1 hour ago...
Only the final honeycomb sdk was released today
Ah drat. Nobody sent me the memo about development stopping... I guess I'll stop working on getting stock Linux / Ubuntu / Debian working on the Tab and sell it.
Seriously though, at least where I'm from, the Tab is ridiculously expensive (~$1200 or so). Many people simply don't have that sort of money to drop on something which is in my view, essentially a toy. (I got mine as a present from Hong Kong, to be honest I wouldn't have bought it with my own money)
Nononono...
godwinvandamme said:
hello everyone,
its sad to say but (is it just me) seems as thought developments on our tab have ceased. there have been no beta no news nothing........
its a shame such a potential device.....
ah well......
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The 10.1 moto tab is a huge and overpowered device (considering what it still CAN'T do that other higher powered portable devices CAN, (ie. laptop etc). It's too unwieldy for a mobile ebook reader but not functional enough to be a laptop replacement for students or professionals (no inking potential, less portability along with a netbook/laptop for support). It's a giant portable media player and Angry Birds arcade machine for early adopters and morons with too much money. As soon as the hype dies down, folks interests will turn back to devices that can run android 3, but cost a third less and are actually portable. **** like the Xoom is worthless until it can ACTUALLY replace the need for a keyboard/mouse/microsoft etc. because half-measures won't work for the masses (joe six-pack just wants convenience). This is the HP-TC1000 all over again.
There will be Honeycomb for the Galaxy Tab. The lemmings will love the Xoom, but the rest of us want function over form.
honeycomb has some ui glitches when running on our nooks, but honeycomb 3.2 is optimized for 7in screens, so if somebody were to make a honeycomb 3.2 rom for the nook, would that fix the ui glitches
Honeycomb 3.2 is still just a rumor. Granted Acer made the comment about it, but even when it comes out, we still wont have the source code until Google releases it. Our main problem is the display drivers we have for the nook don't support the lancher app in Honeycomb. Since the nook is using older technology, unless new drivers are made/released we'll need to find our own workarounds or continue to use software rendering for the UI.
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Honeycomb 3.2 is still just a rumor.
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Not according to this it's not: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/20/huawei-mediapad-revealed-worlds-first-7-inch-android-3-2-table/
It's here folks -- the planet's first Android 3.2 tablet. Huawei just introduced a downright luscious new slate over in Singapore, with CommunicAsia being the launchpad for the 7-inch MediaPad. It's the first high-profile 7-inch tablet we've seen in quite some time, and somehow or another, it's managed to leapfrog most of the currently shipping Honeycomb tablets with a build of Android we've only ever joked about. Huawei tells us that Honeycomb 3.2 is essentially the same as 3.1, but specifically tailored to 7-inch tablets as opposed to 10-inch. Packed within the MediaPad's 10.5mm shell, there's a 217 pixels-per-inch IPS capacitive touchpanel, GPS, 1.3 megapixel front-facing camera, 5 megapixel rear-facing camera, 802.11n WiFi, a battery good for around six hours of life and a bona fide racehorse as a processor: a dual-core 1.2GHz chip from Qualcomm. If all goes well, it'll ship in the United States in Q3 2011.
It's a fair bit chunkier than the newfangled Galaxy Tab 10.1 (8.6mm), but still slimmer than the original Tab, which clocked in at 11.98mm. It weighs in at 390g (0.86 pounds), supports full 1080p playback, includes HSPA+ (14.4Mbps) 3G support, offers 8GB of internal storage (as well as a microSD slot) and comes pre-loaded with Facebook, Twitter, Let's Golf and Documents To Go. There's also a Bluetooth module, an HDMI output for catching those high-def flicks on the go, and the Flash 10.3 player ensures that those websites won't be a problem. Unfortunately, the company's left a great deal to the imagination -- like pricing, which is being "sorted with retail partners and providers" -- and all we've got for system RAM is a promise that it's "working with partners on specifics." Oddly enough, the company has "no current plans" to produce a WiFi-only model, which definitely puts a damper on those who aren't interested in ponying for carrier data. You can bet we'll be digging for more, but even with the surrounding mystery, calling us "excited" would be a severe understatement.
Update: There's a demo vid just after the break, and the first eyes-on shots have emerged from the conference.
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yerand said:
honeycomb has some ui glitches when running on our nooks, but honeycomb 3.2 is optimized for 7in screens, so if somebody were to make a honeycomb 3.2 rom for the nook, would that fix the ui glitches
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Deeper blue may have more insight into 3.1, but working on 3.01, screen size never even appeared to be an issue. Our issues have always been with the drivers and properly compiling the OS for our hardware. Frankly, i have no doubt that if we had AOSP 3.0/3.1, we would have had something nearly as smooth as CM7 right now in no time....
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Deeper blue may have more insight into 3.1, but working on 3.01, screen size never even appeared to be an issue. Our issues have always been with the drivers and properly compiling the OS for our hardware. Frankly, i have no doubt that if we had AOSP 3.0/3.1, we would have had something nearly as smooth as CM7 right now in no time....
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The problem is, I fear we won't see the source for a long time to come.
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The problem is, I fear we won't see the source for a long time to come.
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Once the time has come for the source to drop we shall all have moved on to newer, better, cheaper tablets and our Nooks will sit alone on bar stools and drink heavily and cry, just cry. While remembering their former days of glory, when geeks of all ages would gawk and stare in amazement at what the $250 tablet could accomplish, the golden days, our Nooks will toast & reminisce... Glory, Glory, Glory!!!! Remember the humble Nook Color and weep!
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Once the time has come for the source to drop we shall all have moved on to newer, better, cheaper tablets and our Nooks will sit alone on bar stools and drink heavily and cry, just cry. While remembering their former days of glory, when geeks of all ages would gawk and stare in amazement at what the $250 tablet could accomplish, the golden days, our Nooks will toast & reminisce... Glory, Glory, Glory!!!! Remember the humble Nook Color and weep!
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Being supported by a "major" ROM like Cyanogenmod I bet we will get a couple Android versions out of this device.
I just wish the NC development scene would explode so even in the next year or so, the NC won't be forgotten. Considering it's only really CM, Phiremod, HC test builds, and some 1.2 builds, I'm not excited for the future of NC development.
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I just wish the NC development scene would explode so even in the next year or so, the NC won't be forgotten. Considering it's only really CM, Phiremod, HC test builds, and some 1.2 builds, I'm not excited for the future of NC development.
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Speak for yourself, CM7 with Tablet Tweaks is amazing. I dont need 10 different roms with ugly themes on them, i just need 1 solid rom thats customizable and thats what the Nook offers. If you are looking for something to flash a new rom for every night out of bordem, look to the Evo 4G forum, they flash for flashing sake.
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Speak for yourself, CM7 with Tablet Tweaks is amazing. I dont need 10 different roms with ugly themes on them, i just need 1 solid rom thats customizable and thats what the Nook offers. If you are looking for something to flash a new rom for every night out of bordem, look to the Evo 4G forum, they flash for flashing sake.
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I have an Incredible and I stick with CM7 nightlies on it too, the point I was trying to make is that even if it's 10 different roms with "ugly themes" it's still development, it's still interest, it's variety.
CM7 with tablet tweaks is undoubtedly a brilliant success, and I'm infinitely grateful for the efforts of the CM team, and Murdock. Phiremod is also brilliant, and has proven incredibly serviceable for me.
However, I'll say that I am still anxious to get a working build of Honeycomb. I hope DB, Divine_Madcat, et al won't see this as a criticism of their work, because I genuinely appreciate all the efforts that have been put in thus far - I'd just like to be able to have it at a DD state.
At that point, I think I'd settle.
For some reason it seems the Nook Color Community is dying out. When I got my Nook around March, there were at least 2 new threads in the dev section everyday. Now, it's lucky to get a new ROM in a month. And yet still, devices that are older get new stuff faster than us. So I highly doubt we will get Honeycomb that fast, even with the source.
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However, I'll say that I am still anxious to get a working build of Honeycomb. I hope DB, Divine_Madcat, et al won't see this as a criticism of their work, because I genuinely appreciate all the efforts that have been put in thus far - I'd just like to be able to have it at a DD state.
At that point, I think I'd settle.
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Well, you certainly won't offend me. As it is, i wish i had the ability to make the SDK build more than it is; but I have hit my roadblocks. Our next big project will be ICS, since we should have the source for that, and with the lessons learned from CM7, make it into a daily use product fairly quickly. As we go one, we will see our hardware becoming more dated, but sadly, that happens to the best of us.
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For some reason it seems the Nook Color Community is dying out. When I got my Nook around March, there were at least 2 new threads in the dev section everyday. Now, it's lucky to get a new ROM in a month. And yet still, devices that are older get new stuff faster than us. So I highly doubt we will get Honeycomb that fast, even with the source.
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Look, im sorry, but i am going to be blunt; just because we aren't getting a million "me too!" roms, does not mean we are dying out. If anything, we are ramping up as CM7 gets more and more polished. i mean, in just the last week, USB host support got released for the nook, adding in a second hardware feature officially unlocked. Dalingrin, Fattire, nemith verygreen, and others, have been tirelessly working on our device, and that doesn't show signs of stopping.
As it is, we have gone from a basic ereader, to:
a fully fledged tablet running Android 2.3, overclocked to 1.2-1.3Ghz, with hidden bluetooth and USB host enabled, and dev support that has not faltered since Nov. I would not trade our dev group for any other out there.
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Look, im sorry, but i am going to be blunt; just because we aren't getting a million "me too!" roms, does not mean we are dying out. If anything, we are ramping up as CM7 gets more and more polished. i mean, in just the last week, USB host support got released for the nook, adding in a second hardware feature officially unlocked. Dalingrin, Fattire, nemith verygreen, and others, have been tirelessly working on our device, and that doesn't show signs of stopping.
As it is, we have gone from a basic ereader, to:
a fully fledged tablet running Android 2.3, overclocked to 1.2-1.3Ghz, with hidden bluetooth and USB host enabled, and dev support that has not faltered since Nov. I would not trade our dev group for any other out there.
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Thank you! Isn't it quality that we want over quantity? I'd much rather have 1 GOOD implementation of an OS than 20 bad ones. CM7 is amazing, the work that Divine_Madcat and deeperblue did with HC is rather remarkable considering how little they had to work with.
It's kind of like a free market economy: those that are successful will float to the top, and that's what's happened in this dev community. The good ROMs have definitely stuck around, and the questionable ones didn't. That doesn't mean the community is on its death bed, it just means that the community is maturing. That's a very good thing, IMO.
Yeah, here's another small article on that 7" Android 3.2 tablet. I agree that it'd be wonderful if this could be brought over to the Nook Color, whether it's built from source (ideal scenario) or "ported" from an existing build as with the current Honeycomb builds for the NC. Just the fact that everything is tuned for the exact size screen we have is huge!
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Yeah, here's another small article on that 7" Android 3.2 tablet. I agree that it'd be wonderful if this could be brought over to the Nook Color, whether it's built from source (ideal scenario) or "ported" from an existing build as with the current Honeycomb builds for the NC. Just the fact that everything is tuned for the exact size screen we have is huge!
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Sadly, i don't see it helping too much. The build from that device MIGHT help get rid of the 120DPI limitation, but that is about it.
Now, if somebody were to release a HC tablet built on the Omap 3630, we would be much closer to business...
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Sadly, i don't see it helping too much. The build from that device MIGHT help get rid of the 120DPI limitation, but that is about it.
Now, if somebody were to release a HC tablet built on the Omap 3630, we would be much closer to business...
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Like the phone market, if someone released a low budget HC tablet running a single core. Don't see it happening though.
There are three things that excite me about this Android 3.2 tablet:
1. Honeycomb being changed for a 7 inch screen. I always thought Honeycomb was too much for 7 inches (without going to an insane low DPI). I would love to know what tweaks they made.
2. Unless I missed something this is the first Honeycomb tablet that is not Tegra. That hopefully means the days of Honeycomb apps being Tegra only in many cases is coming to an end. Since Chainfire doesn't work on Honeycomb it would be nice if the app developers did away with the Tegra requirement voluntarily.
3. I am excited that the above two improvements will surely be baked into ICS from the start, meaning that once we DO get the source for Android tablets, we will be able to have a version made for a 7 inch screen.
As far as getting before ICS? Well to me it seems like Honeycomb 3.2 is to Huawei what Honeycomb 3.0 was to Motorola- an OS they get first as reward for being such good Android vendors (read $$$).
It will be winter before we know it, then we get the source for all this cool stuff. Google's gotta pay for that Honeycomb development first...
ikingblack said:
For some reason it seems the Nook Color Community is dying out. When I got my Nook around March, there were at least 2 new threads in the dev section everyday.
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I think there are two reasons for that. One is the release of Cyanogenmod stable, the other is Google announcing that they will not release the source code for Honeycomb. CM covers that basics pretty well, and the lack of HC source makes it difficult to explore the cutting edge.
I think that Cyanogenmod will eventually release a ROM for the Nook Color based on Ice Cream Sandwich, when (or if) Google decides to release the source code for that. The ICS source code may revive the rest of the Nook Color development community as well by making it easier to put out cutting edge ROMs.
"ICS by the end of the year" could mean Cyanogenmod and others won't get their hands on the source code until December 31. What I find unsettling about this situation is that right now the manufacturers of new tablets have to crawl on their hands and knees to Google in order to release a Honeycomb tablet. Once Google gets used to having that power and control, will they ever go back to the old, more open way again?
While I do NOT want to wait 'til December for Google to get its act together, the current state of CM does a lot for my patience. I'll use a gadget for as long as it's useful to me. The Palm IIIx still gets used every day, the NC may be no different.
I just want to no do u want honeycomb for the x8 just say as I'm getting a lot of D**k pming me and saying bad stuff so do you want a working honeycomb or not just I don't no if I want to complete this project now
PS to the 1s that pmed me saying that stuff watch out lmfao I have something for YOUS LOL
super.sense on x8
BIG JD said:
I just want to no do u want honeycomb for the x8 just say
super.sense on x8
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i want it too
maybe honeycomb is a bit of a headache on our 3 inch x8
Questioner said:
maybe honeycomb is a bit of a headache on our 3 inch x8
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It is but it will help when ics comes (ice cream) eg the cam speed 3g ect ect
super.sense on x8
the dev of Honeycomb was run to another phone.
Honeycomb dev is not on x8 again (HAKA)
*Development is temporarily down, X8 sold out*
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Honeycomb dev is not on x8 again (HAKA)
*Development is temporarily down, X8 sold out*
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but big jd is porting honeycomb to x8 (i think)
Well me and 2 developer's r making it from nothing just a clean 3.0 and we got it ok from android
X8 sold out what do you mean?
PS that developer is on a N1 now
super.sense on x8
Honeycomb would be nice on the x8
just for the interface.
BUT!
The lag from it would be a heartache its bad enough with abit of lag from 2.3 so imagine the lag for a ROM which was mainly used for 1GHz+ processors. So I think people would be best sticking to 2.3 with theme modifications to make it look like Honeycomb. Also IceCream is due out very soon so it would be a waste to start developing on a rom so laggy when the phone version will be out very soon which could probably run on your device smoothly/little lag.
Continue to do the port if you wish, Its obviously your decision, I am just giving my opinion
Good luck
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Well me and 2 developer's r making it from nothing just a clean 3.0 and we got it ok from android
X8 sold out what do you mean?
PS that developer is on a N1 now
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have you any honeycomb we could try?
even tough it has bugs
Big JD its ok sweetie continue the project it will be great. Make history, dont wori about some critism it will change once you make it work. Xoxo
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NO BAD COMMENTS AT HC ROM THREAD (soon??)
Only report bugs
Regardless if what it is people are saying to you, you can do what you please, i personally believe it would be brilliant to have a honeycomb/ice cream rom for our phones being as there are so many froyo/gingerbread roms already out there, the people that are inboxing you are just making a poor attempt at being keyboard warriors being as theyre willing to try and flame you by inbox rather than do it in public, where i for one would be more than happy to put them in their place, its one of the things i especially enjoy and seem to have a talent in, so if you need me im here
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im doing a course on programing for work with android and need 3 project and all 3 projects will be sent to my teachers who have made android there self so thay can make sure its safe and sound[one of the teachers help on making the ultimatedroid for the htc it like CM so i know there good at what thay do]as i have 2 old x8 phone got from ebay as my testers 1 for bootloader 1s for honeycomb and at the min i have honeycomb running for 6 hour on full battery and NO apk running ill bet uploading it when i can get it to a 12hour out of the battery with apks running i have 2g 2d wifi working and most of the normal apk working bar games
games are coming throw the rong size
As for system problems i need to move over to linux and i have never use linux ever so it will be slow at 1st but im a very fast learner when it come to pc iso's so i can inprove the rom that i make for 3d lag ect...
this is why i want to do sumthing new for the x8 owner as we had froyo fully working and now we have gingerbread
as most of yous know 4.0 ics[icecream] is coming and we dont have honeycomb yet ics is a mix of honeycomb and gingerbread and if we get a head start on honeycomb it may help us make ics or[icecream] or not but who knows as the release date has changed 5 time all ready as you can figer out ics is my last project im allso thinking about the bootloader as well.Becouse it will open a lot more stuff for us and make the developers a lot happyer as it will make there job a lot easyer im just trying to get us up with the big boy eg HTC and to help make are phone a good as the next new phone out there i do know that we are LIMITED to stuff we can do but sure i just want to push it to the max and showing SE what are wee x8 can do
3.0 on the x8 will be fun and not just that y not see how far the devs can get the x8 as se say we cant even have 2.2. And lets face it if we all stuck with wot we know works we would all still be on 2.1 so respect the dev's for wot they bring don't put them down. As how many post are there saying we wont have a smooth cm7 and yet now there's 5+ smooth cm7 roms with full cam.
i say do it then the haters can thank you if you can port smooth 3.0
This is just my opinion, but porting HC to the X8 is just a big waste of time.. Let's be real, 600mhz + 128Mb ram + 3" display..
But it's your time and you can do what you want
Anyway, judging from the fact you never touched linux, it will take a veeeery long time.
Good luck!
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This is just my opinion, but porting HC to the X8 is just a big waste of time.. Let's be real, 600mhz + 128Mb ram + 3" display..
But it's your time and you can do what you want
Anyway, judging from the fact you never touched linux, it will take a veeeery long time.
Good luck!
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Stop wasting your time! HoneyComb is super slow!!!!!! We could only run it normaly with swap!
Hmm how about leaving alone this guy do his thing and wants. Shame on you know who, before when dev try to port gingerbread most of the comment that it wont run smoothly, stop wasting time blah blah blah, and now its fully working most just turned side and use the rom that once prejudge as impossible coz if ram cpu etc. Did anyone of you knows whats the meaning of DEVELOPMENT? We really wont know less we try. So if you will just post discouragement then shame on you, so what if we didnt have smooth and stable honeycomb the point is we tried rather than so just speculating on it. I wonder if Alba Edison stop his experiment about lamps coz so many people think his doing impossible and nonsense thing but look we got light all over the world. So who talks nonsense now?
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Hmm how about leaving alone this guy do his thing and wants. Shame on you know who, before when dev try to port gingerbread most of the comment that it wont run smoothly, stop wasting time blah blah blah, and now its fully working most just turned side and use the rom that once prejudge as impossible coz if ram cpu etc. Did anyone of you knows whats the meaning of DEVELOPMENT? We really wont know less we try. So if you will just post discouragement then shame on you, so what if we didnt have smooth and stable honeycomb the point is we tried rather than so just speculating on it. I wonder if Alba Edison stop his experiment about lamps coz so many people think his doing impossible and nonsense thing but look we got light all over the world. So who talks nonsense now?
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I understand what you mean. I don't want to discourage anyone specially when they are learning. But that's the only reason i think he/she should try to port it, for learning/dev purposes, because it would not be good for a daily use.
I never rant or said anything about gingerbread port being a waste of time.. Sure it is heavier than froyo, but it's not very different from it and can be tweaked so it can be supported, like DX did.. and a fine job he did..
But HC is a completely different story, ask any dev you want if he/she thinks a port its feasible in any way other than learning/dev purposes.
And OP said he/she's still learning, and for the looks he's still in the beginning. Sure it would be a good challenge trying to do it and good way of learning (although not the best) but i think he could try other things, things that people could actually benefit from, even himself, like fixing bugs or even trying to crack the bootloader if he thinks he's up to it.
This is just my opinion, of course he can do whatever he wants. i'm just being realistic deedii.
Maybe an ice port would be more feasible, because it's not ONLY oriented to tablets, like HC is
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http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
A guide on making an ics port to pretty much any device, like the acer iconia tab, ill try making a rom later this week and post it here, will probably need some help though
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http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
A guide on making an ics port to pretty much any device, like the acer iconia tab, ill try making a rom later this week and post it here, will probably need some help though
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still need a lot of drivers, which is why there has been so little development progress as of late.
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http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
A guide on making an ics port to pretty much any device, like the acer iconia tab, ill try making a rom later this week and post it here, will probably need some help though
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Think you will need more time then one week, but still good luck, i think xmiss got you to optimistic.
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http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
A guide on making an ics port to pretty much any device, like the acer iconia tab, ill try making a rom later this week and post it here, will probably need some help though
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Might want to upgrade your PC. I hear it can take half a day or more on a dual core.
But good luck to you!
I wish it was a easy as following a guide. Unfortunately, it isn't. I've messed my device tree up more times then I care to think about.
@ Moscow Desire,
Usually 3 to 5 hours depending on exact chip and how much RAM you have. Can be longer of course.
Is 4GB ram pretty good to make it
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That's what I had on my older laptop. I was getting 3 to 5 hour compiles depending on what i was compiling.
though I'd welcome new developers of ICS, since we only just have two currently.
I think it would be better to just assist with the development of either of those two then to start a whole new one from the ground up.
Progress is going to be woeful until we get dumps from Acer for the OTA expected some time late next month..
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though I'd welcome new developers of ICS, since we only just have two currently.
I think it would be better to just assist with the development of either of those two then to start a whole new one from the ground up.
Progress is going to be woeful until we get dumps from Acer for the OTA expected some time late next month..
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Yeah, but let's not bring that up again. Sometimes, apple and oranges don't mix. Everybody has their own way of doing things.
Besides, it's not a race Blaze has done more than most of us. Hell, he got it started. But ICS, from what I've seen from insiders, is a whole new ball game.
And you're right about dumps from Acer. Currently, as seen with virtually every ICS port for most every device, there are some roadblocks. Specifically when it comes to camera and HW drivers. If you look at most major dev threads, Phone and tab alike, it gets stonewalled at these exact places.
My guess, is that Google released the base chunks to the Hardware manufacturers, to enable them to create drivers for this. But they didn't release it openly. This is why 99% of the devs, are stonewalled when it comes to this point. And I just talk about a couple of key things. Lord knows how much else they kept private.
Hell, in the MS quarterly dev subscription, they would provide us with the basics on how things worked for most mainstream devices. At least it gave us a background on what it took to develop drivers specific to our hardware.
Blaze, keep pushing on dude. It will all fall into place soon. And you're about 10 steps or more, ahead of everybody when things do get released.
Happy New Year Everybody!!
I'm just sayin..... I'm not trying to start anything its just that every time I come on to XDA theres never really a new topic for the Acer A50-
I have an EVO 4g and theres always new topics and development and I have had other HTC phones and been here for a frew years now
With no bootloader access (except for It's Magic), No drivers, and slow support from manufacture and otherwise.
I have a feeling that this tablet is out to lunch and soon out to pasture.
What do you think?
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I also own an A500 and a HTC EVO 4G. Although I do understand a bit where you're coming from, I think it's mostly a difference between a phone and a tablet forum.
I also think it's a difference in quantity versus quality. We have some very nice, stable ROMs for the A500 where everything works. For most EVO ROM announcement threads, I just disregard them after reading the OP and seeing that 4G doesn't work, GPS has problems, MMS has problems, landscape Rosie doesn't work, etc. Plus quite a few of those EVO "ROMs" are just tweaked versions of earlier released ROMs that are heavily themed.
Also, I think the A500 community here on XDA is a little guilty of running off quite a few of our devs by being ungrateful, overly demanding, etc. Compound that with some devs having a little bit of an attitude, and I think we're lucky to have the devs that we still do.
Although I almost immediately wanted to root/ROM my EVO 4G, I was perfectly happy with stock root on my A500, and that's basically what I'm running now. I flashed ezterry's 3.2.1 ROM, tweaked it a little myself, threw ADW Launcher EX at it with a nice theme, and I'm a happy camper patiently waiting for Acer to release ICS.
There is a big difference between phone ownership and tablet ownership. I would have to guess its something like 10,000 android phone owners to every 1 android tablet owner. And the Evo 4g was the flagship of Android phone for a long time. I too owned the Evo 4g and my wife still has one. I moved on to the Evo 3d and love it. I agree, it would be nice to see some excitement in these forums but when I use my tablet I want it to work and work right. I switched back to a rooted stock rom because almost all of the roms I found were really just themes and had removed apps that I like. The roms that are highly customized like thors or flexstriker always have glitches or changed to much. I'll run stock until ICS drops and then I hope some more exciting developing will be going on. My work just purchased me an Ipad 2 and I have played with it for a few days now. I'll have to say, the Ipad will be used for work, but when I want to play I'll be reaching for my A500.
You know what I hated about all the roms for the evo, it was all the badly themed roms with the same tweaks.
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internetpilot said:
We have some very nice, stable ROMs for the A500 where everything works.
Also, I think the A500 community here on XDA is a little guilty of running off quite a few of our devs by being ungrateful, overly demanding, etc. Compound that with some devs having a little bit of an attitude, and I think we're lucky to have the devs that we still do.
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Exactly. Lately, we've had a new kernel released, along with a new recovery by Dres. And a couple of the newer released roms (3.2.1) @Civato and myself and a couple of others. So I wouldn't say that development has ceased. I would say, that Dev's and Modders have pushed HC about as far as it can go.
And yes, some people like to use the forum for their own battle ground. They know who they are. This isn't a backwoods chat room, but some people just like to start scandals.
But I am sure most people appreciate the work that is done. If you want to know how much work is put into things, get a stock rom, and try doing it.
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I'm just sayin..... I'm not trying to start anything its just that every time I come on to XDA theres never really a new topic for the Acer A50-
I have an EVO 4g and theres always new topics and development and I have had other HTC phones and been here for a frew years now
With no bootloader access (except for It's Magic), No drivers, and slow support from manufacture and otherwise.
I have a feeling that this tablet is out to lunch and soon out to pasture.
What do you think?
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It's easy to complain and say that there's nothing going on when you're not even giving any suggestions. I mean, more-or-less all the interesting things have already been tried and done, and the next thing to do would be to fundamentally alter how Honeycomb works. And that is simply a very big task to undertake.
Of course we could also go the same route as people like to go on other devices, ie. release a gazillion different ROMs where the only difference is in theming and color scheme. But that isn't development.
So go ahead and make some suggestions or wishes about what you'd want to see. Also keep in mind that HC is HC and many of us are satisfied with it as it is. Like e.g. I really have only one or two things to improve on that would even be possible with HC, everything else I want would require a whole new OS altogether. And as that ain't possible I really have no reason to develop for A500 at all, I simply don't view releasing yet another HC ROM that fixes the two minor nibbles I have with it as being worth my (or anyone else's) time.
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It's easy to complain and say that there's nothing going on when you're not even giving any suggestions. I mean, more-or-less all the interesting things have already been tried and done, and the next thing to do would be to fundamentally alter how Honeycomb works. And that is simply a very big task to undertake.
Of course we could also go the same route as people like to go on other devices, ie. release a gazillion different ROMs where the only difference is in theming and color scheme. But that isn't development.
So go ahead and make some suggestions or wishes about what you'd want to see. Also keep in mind that HC is HC and many of us are satisfied with it as it is. Like e.g. I really have only one or two things to improve on that would even be possible with HC, everything else I want would require a whole new OS altogether. And as that ain't possible I really have no reason to develop for A500 at all, I simply don't view releasing yet another HC ROM that fixes the two minor nibbles I have with it as being worth my (or anyone else's) time.
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maybe we just need to forget that f**ing HC maybe we need to look at the future HC for me is a waste of time and resources i just saying we could do better :angel
KeePeeR26 said:
maybe we just need to forget that f**ing HC maybe we need to look at the future HC for me is a waste of time and resources i just saying we could do better :angel
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Well, if you're referring to ICS then I have to say that even ICS doesn't address the fundamental issues I have with the whole Android platform. Of course it is a step up from HC, I'm not denying that, but even ICS is plenty rough around the corners and patched up with Mickey Mouse - plasters and chewing gum.
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Well, if you're referring to ICS then I have to say that even ICS doesn't address the fundamental issues I have with the whole Android platform. Of course it is a step up from HC, I'm not denying that, but even ICS is plenty rough around the corners and patched up with Mickey Mouse - plasters and chewing gum.
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As much as I like Android, this is what you get when you get a search company writing an OS instead of a company that's been making OS's for 20+ years...
Bells and whistles are great, but not if your core functionality is farked.
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As much as I like Android, this is what you get when you get a search company writing an OS instead of a company that's been making OS's for 20+ years...
Bells and whistles are great, but not if your core functionality is farked.
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That and if windows tablets that still have a Intel CPUs, that steam store will be a hard app store to beat
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On the whole, I don't think you have the right to complain. The devs are nice enough to share what they do. If you don't like it then make your own rom...
Waiting to see what you can come up with....
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On the whole, I don't think you have the right to complain. The devs are nice enough to share what they do. If you don't like it then make your own rom...
Waiting to see what you can come up with....
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This i totally agree with . All of the tools are open and free to all. Thousands of internet sites books and other media to help.. Not to mention the new mobile development center at MIT...
TO Bad im a Blonde from Kentucky.. Boohooooo i just have to wait and hope .
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This i totally agree with . All of the tools are open and free to all. Thousands of internet sites books and other media to help.. Not to mention the new mobile development center at MIT...
TO Bad im a Blonde from Kentucky.. Boohooooo i just have to wait and hope .
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Oh, we should post a sign. "Don't feed the Trolls".
Noticed how the OP edited his post, to include the 501 after I posted a simple response.
Some people, just show absolutely no appreciation to the hard work people do. We do it, so others can enjoy it.
Is it a sense of accomplishment, yeah, it is. Especially when it works for 95% of the users.
I'm no Dev. I'm a "fry cook". But I understand what Devs go through. Been there, did that.
Some people, will never be satisfied, no matter what you do. It's a pity.
Ought to kill this thread, as really, as the OP showed, it's an insult to all dev's and Modders.
And people wonder why the devs and modders leave xda. Just look at the title that was posted.
The best thing, is to ignore such posts, from such people, as they are just designed to get people into a pissing war, while they sit back and get amusement.
No way!
Without the efforts of many developers we wouldn't have the following:
USB 3G support for the A500
Eye candy boot animations and themes
Lean operating environment by removing uneccesary startup software
Improved GPS response
Improved kernels for stable overclocking
As far as I'm concerned, the Dev contributers are doing a splendid job.
HTC Desire
ROM: MIUI-XJ v2.2.10 (D2EXT X-PART)
Recovery: 4EXT Classic
Acer Iconia A500
ROM: civato-FLEXSTRIKER-R9.5
JustAnotherDrOidUser said:
No way!
Without the efforts of many developers we wouldn't have the following:
USB 3G support for the A500
Eye candy boot animations and themes
Lean operating environment by removing uneccesary startup software
Improved GPS response
Improved kernels for stable overclocking
As far as I'm concerned, the Dev contributers are doing a splendid job.
HTC Desire
ROM: MIUI-XJ v2.2.10 (D2EXT X-PART)
Recovery: 4EXT Classic
Acer Iconia A500
ROM: civato-FLEXSTRIKER-R9.5
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This is all very true thank you for an awesome reply
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Moscow Desire said:
Oh, we should post a sign. "Don't feed the Trolls".
Noticed how the OP edited his post, to include the 501 after I posted a simple response.
Some people, just show absolutely no appreciation to the hard work people do. We do it, so others can enjoy it.
Is it a sense of accomplishment, yeah, it is. Especially when it works for 95% of the users.
I'm no Dev. I'm a "fry cook". But I understand what Devs go through. Been there, did that.
Some people, will never be satisfied, no matter what you do. It's a pity.
Ought to kill this thread, as really, as the OP showed, it's an insult to all dev's and Modders.
And people wonder why the devs and modders leave xda. Just look at the title that was posted.
The best thing, is to ignore such posts, from such people, as they are just designed to get people into a pissing war, while they sit back and get amusement.
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No disrespect but your the only one I really see running around here *****ing and complaining. Seriously tge thread is going in the direction it was meant. Im not hassling devs thier talents are amazing in this place. Ive been here for years. Um just not real happy with my product even in the capable hands here. Thats all.
P.S. I did want to come back and update this post for you. Like Ibsaid I have been here for years. I remeber when xda was a lot different when people just ignored stupid comments and there wasnt all this he said she said tolling fad crap adults were adults and children were children. But oh how the waters have muddied even for a few who cook and code. Not all but as the new popular xda saying goes: "you know who you are" ;-)
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erica_renee said:
This i totally agree with . All of the tools are open and free to all. Thousands of internet sites books and other media to help.. Not to mention the new mobile development center at MIT...
TO Bad im a Blonde from Kentucky.. Boohooooo i just have to wait and hope .
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1. The tools aren't all open. They simply aren't. Remember the thor fiasco?
2. No one cares if you're a blonde from Kentucky. Posting about waiting & hoping will do nothing for anyone.
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No disrespect but your the only one I really see running around here *****ing and complaining. Seriously tge thread is going in the direction it was meant. Im not hassling devs thier talents are amazing in this place. Ive been here for years. Um just not real happy with my product even in the capable hands here. Thats all.
P.S. I did want to come back and update this post for you. Like Ibsaid I have been here for years. I remeber when xda was a lot different when people just ignored stupid comments and there wasnt all this he said she said tolling fad crap adults were adults and children were children. But oh how the waters have muddied even for a few who cook and code. Not all but as the new popular xda saying goes: "you know who you are" ;-)
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If you're going to complain about stuff not being done, learn to program, and do it yourself.
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If you're going to complain about stuff not being done, learn to program, and do it yourself.
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Drop the elitist attitude.
Not everyone has the qualities needed to make a programmer, just as not everyone has the qualities to become a successful artist; some people simply are better wired for it than others. Not to mention actual real-life issues.
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Drop the elitist attitude.
Not everyone has the qualities needed to make a programmer, just as not everyone has the qualities to become a successful artist; some people simply are better wired for it than others. Not to mention actual real-life issues.
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True, but if you are going to make a thread titled "development for my tablet sucks", you should be ready to ****ing drop some command line ninja skills.
It seems like the op was meaning to say "development seems to have stalled", but inflammatory language is inflammatory...
(ps, I am all sorts of drunk (woot woot switfkey autocorrection) and the useless bickering of the A500 forums makes me an angry drunk)
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(ps, I am all sorts of drunk (woot woot switfkey autocorrection) and the useless bickering of the A500 forums makes me an angry drunk)
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Heh. Mind if I join you? Got a bottle of vodka and I'm bored out of my skull, getting drunk sounds like a rather good idea!