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Will pure AOSP Froyo ROM ever be a reality on Samsung Galaxy S devices?

Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.

WhiteWidows said:
Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.
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you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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This contradicts what I read elsewhere for the better Ill see if I can locate where I read this at, If this is the case why is there no custom roms besides Cyanogenmod? Where is a AOSP roms at? Or is the device just that new nothing is out yet? If this is true Ill be getting the Epic over the Evo

Wifi tether comes with the device, and I have to say I haven't had any problems with its use so far
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While trying this and putting my N1 aside, I'm surprised how much I'm missing FroYo
Any devs that would care to comment on the possibility of a FroYo port for the SGS?

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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What nonsense

I'm a little confused about the situation with ROMs myself, coming from the Windows Mobile world. If the entire source to the build of Android on the Galaxy S is available, surely it's possible to change anything, theoretically? It also seems that the bootloader has no or negligible security as to what it can flash.
On the other hand, I've seen claims that it would be impossible to get Froyo or any future Android updates if Samsung don't release them first (I know they've committed to Froyo). Unless the driver model changes dramatically in Froyo, which I doubt since then new drivers would be required for every phone, why would it be any more difficult to port newer versions of Android to the Galaxy S than any other phone?

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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Why do you say this? I purchased mine today and so far am very satisfied with
the phone.

Just testing xda app.
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jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
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No, it's just that there are different components and layers which can be considered open or "locked down", and you both use different ones.
The bootloader for the samsung galaxy is not locked.
But there is an argument by the XDA forum member psychoace that some of the drivers for the galaxy S were not open sourced, and that in earlier android devices from samsung this made it very hard to create ROMs which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.
As far as I know, this argument from psychoace was never countered, and so I see no reason not to believe it. (I did not look over the sources myself yet).
So can someone port new versions of Android over to the Galaxy S after Samsung has abandoned the device? I really don't know, but I wouldn't count on it, until someone who has experience with making custom ROMs says it is realistic.

The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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riz157 said:
The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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as far as i understand it, the lagging issues are just because of the touchwiz and especially the samsung-widgets. removing the widgets and replacing the luncher with luncher-pro/adw will be the first thing i do when i have the device in my hands. on the other side: the hardware of the galaxy s is very good in my opinion!
@bookwormat:
i think you are wrong! i have read in some forums that samsung has released the drivers for 2.1 together with all other code! in fact i am just pulling the code (including the full kernel) from the samsung open source center (http://opensource.samsung.com/). it's huge, 148MB ... when it's finished i will give it a look an confirm what's in there and what not.

You might just want to take into consideration the fact that the Nexus and Desire had some problems as well right after launch.
The nexus took some time ( a couple of months) to set things straight, the Desire- A couple of weeks only. But it's understandable, since it's 95% identical to the nexus, so HTC probably knew what is going to be problematic.
Also, you're taking things to major extremes. You make it sound like the device is catastrophically slow to the level of being unuseable, and crashes every 2 minutes.
Reality, well, is different. The longest lag i had personally is 1.5 seconds when loading asphalt 5. Every other lag when opening an app- less than half a second.
I'd also like you to refrain from stating one personal problem as a bug in the device, you are the only known member in this forum that is having trouble with the keyboard.
A little search in MoDaCo forums reveals that some users are reporting slight problems with the keyboard, but it's limited to Firmware JG01 only.
It's sad that instead of taking a moment to see if you can solve these problems or helping others find a solution, you preffer to bash the device in every occasion.

For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
For me it's really an awesome phone that comes with some minor annoyances that seem entirely caused by the fact that it's brand new. So far it appears that Samsung is putting a lot of effort in maturing the software and I expect the issues to be solved within a matter of weeks. In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Battery life is very good after the first initial cycles.
GPS doesn't work right you may all ***** about that.
I'm sure I would be happy with the new HTC's, or even the iphone 4 (the thought of buying into apple's nasty attitude does make me cringe a bit) but I would still choose the SGS again providing they fix the gps.

Perhaps I'm being over critical but there are serious flaws with this device, there is no denying this.
GPS not working - there doesn't seem to be a solution, can't use copilot or googlemaps.
Lagging/freezing - changed to launcher pro not as bad but still occurs.
I hope the boys at samy are working hard to find fixes for these problems. If there are solutions then please guide me to them.
Don't get me wrong this device has potential and there alot of good features but due to issues mentioned above it just ruins the users experience.
I paid good money for this device not so that I could put it down but to use it. I'm just stating my experience for the benefit of others who maybe considering to buy this device.
If there are solutions wonderful p

dakine said:
For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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I really dont uderstand all this gps not working talk.I use co pilot a lot and its extremely accurate and keeps lock in all weathers.Googe maps works indoors to within a house or so and out side gets me within 15 feet or so.I did have gps issues initially until I flashed firmware and factory reset.My i8910 hd had better gps but that was an exeptional phone for gps

Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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Download the update.zip file from this thread.
Or direct link here
Copy the file to the internal storage card of the phone using Kies or whatever method you like.
Disconnect the usb cable
Turn off the phone
Press and hold these buttons at the same time: volume up+home+power, keep them pressed until you see the samsung logo.
Use volume rocker to navigate to update.zip and then press home to select.
Phone will reboot and you are now rooted with superuser.
The whole process takes less than 5 minutes.
I'm not responsible for anything

I like the phone but there are problems
1.keyboard has dup presses... solved with HTC keyboard. Also l key in portrait mode doesn't always work.
2. Gps lock not as good or reliable as my I 8910
3. StallING.. fix fixed it the only program that has a lag to load is sygic.
4. Image resizing not working well in gallery and web.
5. Still doesn't always switch back to 3g from edge. Jg1 is better than previous.
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One ROM One Source with Many tweaks

Hi everyone please before anyone throw curses at me, it is only a request to make things more organize at least for noobs like me
i have entered the world of andorid not so much as a month ago with galaxy S2 i was amazed with the possibilities of this software and how much customization can go with it but all this come with cost which is mess, lost and confusion
i mean there is like 10 or more roms for S2 alone as we can see and it just been a month only what will happen after plus we are always asking which is the best rom what is the best theme etc
that is why i suggest the following:
one custom rom which belong to XDA to name as please or XDA rom since XDA the biggest android forum and all developers can work on it to tweak it as they please and submit to the ppl in charge of it and update frequently (example villin rom with its tweaks app which need some work in organizing, i thank him for his work)
in this rom there will be apps like that but will be all in the offical app for tweaks( like cydia in the iphone OS) inside it everything from themes to addons
i know i might not clear but what am saying lets try to have One rom and in it all the tweaks possible since in the end of what am seeing all ROMs have minor difference(someone can shot me down if am wrong and i say sorry)
waiting for your thoughs follow XDA members

A few quick thoughts here. You can never please everyone because people want different things out of a rom and the result can be that as things go forward you end up pleasing no one by trying to be all things to all people. Also right now the roms are fairly similar because the phone is so new but that will change going down the road as things settle in and they will become more divergent. While it seems chaotic now this is not a bad thing in that you likely will find a chef who does work that you will prefer. Once CM comes to fruition you will see in some respects what you are talking about as many people will theme directly for it and so also with mods.

There are so many more devices, roms and people. Some roms make the whole operating system look completely different. (miui)
You want everything easily in one place. I actually don't. If you want one rom, pick one and stay with it. Simple right?
I like to compare different roms, certain ones have better features but a long with that it brings worse battery life. So I like weighing the differences.
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Stick to the stock ROM for now, it's pretty balanced, till a few more months and Dev's get the hang of this new Phone.

Problem with the original only one rom . Who do you choose for the one rom do you ban the other devs .Ban Chainfire ban others like him who have developed individual bits that come together to make a whole .
No Android is independent custom at will rather than the dictate of one person (Hi Steve ).
Noobs need to accept that its a learning curve they have to learn how to read first follow instructions second browse the posts third and search fourth .
Simply put one rom defeats the whole point of XDA and Open Source .
jje

well thanks guys about the reply but i guess the idea far from coming to android or maybe because i am new, i cannot see the picture you guys are seeing since i came from iphone which used to have one version(jailbreak firmware) with cydia(the home of all great thing for iphone) and thought it is possible in android but it seems not so i just have to do what most have said stick to one rom and be updated with it
in the end i just wanted to share my thoughts and it has been nice reading your thoughts on the matter
stay alive

MoeBD said:
well thanks guys about the reply but i guess the idea far from coming to android or maybe because i am new, i cannot see the picture you guys are seeing since i came from iphone which used to have one version(jailbreak firmware) with cydia(the home of all great thing for iphone) and thought it is possible in android but it seems not so i just have to do what most have said stick to one rom and be updated with it
in the end i just wanted to share my thoughts and it has been nice reading your thoughts on the matter
stay alive
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But thats the whole difference ONE = IPhone
What you want = Android .
What if that one rom is far behind rather than advanced = no choice .
If i had to go down the IPhone one rom walled garden do as you are told path i would not even contemplate a Smartphone .I want choice simple as that .
One rom might as well stick with the basic Google rom .
jje

Ok, in general these are the roms out here or yet to come:
- Android with Touchwhizz
- Stock android
- MIUI
- Cyanogenmod
- Stock android with Cyanogenmod tweaks etc
- Possibly a Sense rom.
These are 6 different android variants already. How can you put them in one rom? That is not possible. I like the stock android, you like touchwhizz etc.
The main advantage is that you can switch roms easily and flash the rom that suits you.
I agree that in the beginning you can't see the whole picture, but you will in time. Like JJEgan says it's a learning curve, although a lot of new people don't seem to realize that.

Up-to-date ROM list

Hi,
In case it helps, I have an up-to-date Galaxy Note 2 ROM list kept here, which includes the GT-N7100, N7105 models.
Someone was asking for a list in the AT&T section, so I thought I'd post this info in each section to tell people.
It's kind of a hobby, but it's kept up-to-date pretty much every day.
Some of you might find it useful.

That's some serious consolidation done there m8! Great job, surely helps!

Thanks.

Just a quick bump in case it can help anyone out who doesn't know about it.

Super awesome. If you could just sort it base wise like touchwiz and aosp.
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Hi,
It came to my attention that I'd forgotten to add a few roms from the `Original Android Development' sections for the different carriers.
Sorry about that. Those roms have now been added.

Just a quick bump. The Galaxy Note 2 ROMs list is still regularly updated.
I hope it continues to help people out. As usual most of the ROMs are here at XDA.
Thanks.
Note 2 ROMs

cool thanks

I'm still using my Note 2 (believe it or not). The Galaxy Note 2 ROMs list is still going strong, too - although it has gotten easier with less ROM development.
(This is kind of a thread bump. I'm looking to switch to a Galaxy S8 Edge in the near future, if they are any good.)

Grant Barker said:
I'm still using my Note 2 (believe it or not). The Galaxy Note 2 ROMs list is still going strong, too - although it has gotten easier with less ROM development.
(This is kind of a thread bump. I'm looking to switch to a Galaxy S8 Edge in the near future, if they are any good.)
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Which rom you recommended for daily driver?
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amlbuton said:
Which rom you recommended for daily driver?
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Sorry for the boring reply, but I would recommend whichever one you try and like.
MIUI is nice for a change sometimes. Here in Japan, we were limited as to which ROMs we could flash, so I eventually went back to the latest ROMs from the carrier (DoCoMo).
The Galaxy Note 2 is still a nice phone. I'm looking forward to changing devices in the coming months, after having stayed with the Note 2 since it came out.
I pay quite a bit each month here for my phone, so it makes sense to benefit from a newer device if I'm still paying quite a bit each month.
The Note 2 still does everything I need it to do. But after trying other devices in the stores, I realize that they are quicker, lighter, and it's important to freshen up life with new experiences. (I'm kind of old fashioned, so I have to remind myself to change every few years.)
(It can also be tricky getting a 24 month contract when you live abroad and rely on renewing your visa annually.)
.. Go with whichever ROM you like, and read the threads and see how much enthusiasm there is for each one.

Grant Barker said:
Sorry for the boring reply, but I would recommend whichever one you try and like.
MIUI is nice for a change sometimes. Here in Japan, we were limited as to which ROMs we could flash, so I eventually went back to the latest ROMs from the carrier (DoCoMo).
The Galaxy Note 2 is still a nice phone. I'm looking forward to changing devices in the coming months, after having stayed with the Note 2 since it came out.
I pay quite a bit each month here for my phone, so it makes sense to benefit from a newer device if I'm still paying quite a bit each month.
The Note 2 still does everything I need it to do. But after trying other devices in the stores, I realize that they are quicker, lighter, and it's important to freshen up life with new experiences. (I'm kind of old fashioned, so I have to remind myself to change every few years.)
(It can also be tricky getting a 24 month contract when you live abroad and rely on renewing your visa annually.)
.. Go with whichever ROM you like, and read the threads and see how much enthusiasm there is for each one.
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Thanks for your prompt reply
I do still have my Note 2 running with stock rom 4.4.2 from Indonesia region but lately interested in change the current rom
I will check the thread for custom rom sharing and tested based on other users review
Thanks again bro [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]
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Your @Grant Barker list doesn't have haxynox 6.0.1
Here's the link
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=60049

old school it's better great artwork !

deepjyoti30 said:
Your @Grant Barker list doesn't have haxynox 6.0.1
Here's the link
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=60049
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Do you know the main ROM thread for that? (It doesn't have to be XDA.)
For example: This thread links to these files.
That ROM you posted the link to is dated as more recent, so it would be nice to know the thread it belongs to.
Thanks.

I dont think theres even a thread but therom works fine. I flashed it some days back @Grant Barker
Only the buttons backlight doesn't work. Other than that everything works fine.

deepjyoti30 said:
I dont think theres even a thread but therom works fine. I flashed it some days back @Grant Barker
Only the buttons backlight doesn't work. Other than that everything works fine.
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Here's the screens

OK. I've asked around, and I'll see if anyone knows or updates a related thread.
Thank you.

Thanks a lot.
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Share your experience of this beast!

Dropped my S4 in the toilet yesterday and got this beast today, the red one, magnificent phone.
Much better stock rom than the S4, faster and just simple, as it should be.
So what i wonder is, what can i expect from this phone if i start customizing it, because its hard to believe it can get any better.
I dont know if its necessary to change the kernel either, it seems like it has great batterylife.
So my real question as a new owner of this beast is, can it, and if yes, how can i make it better?
Cheers!

I am preety sure you are quite late to the party and all your answers can be found via a search (kernals , roms, battery-life). you might find a beast too in search.

That S4 belongs in the toilet I sold mine about 4 months ago and got the stealth black HTC One and as you have said its a great phone out of the box but there are also many nice things that you can do. For example you can flash a custom kernel to enable the HTC logo to act as unlock/lock button; I set mine to unlock if I double tap it and lock if I tap and hold, you can also set it to unlock when you swipe it etc...
You can also flash google edition ROM if you like the stock android look (even though sense is really nice too) and its much more stable than any aosp ROM out there and android kitkat will be released for google edition devices soon so if you want the latest android version just wait until its released and flash it!
And congratulations on your new phone, you are going to love it!

RTIT said:
That S4 belongs in the toilet I sold mine about 4 months ago and got the stealth black HTC One and as you have said its a great phone out of the box but there are also many nice things that you can do. For example you can flash a custom kernel to enable the HTC logo to act as unlock/lock button; I set mine to unlock if I double tap it and lock if I tap and hold, you can also set it to unlock when you swipe it etc...
You can also flash google edition ROM if you like the stock android look (even though sense is really nice too) and its much more stable than any aosp ROM out there and android kitkat will be released for google edition devices soon so if you want the latest android version just wait until its released and flash it!
And congratulations on your new phone, you are going to love it!
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Thanks för sharing my friend, looking forward to exploring what i can do with this phone
What rom and kernel have you installed in your phone? Just curious
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Reinstall Android on Galaxy Note 4

Hey guys,
first of all I want to mention that I'm new to this forum so forgive me if I do or did anything wrong . Second I want to tell you a few things about me and my device so it's easier for you to provide efficient troubleshoot. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 - N910F for since it's release so about close to 3 years now. I'm familiar with simple things like like rooting the smartphone or creating backups and stuff like that, but I'm sure I will be able to perform some harder things too since I'm working in the technical support team of Apple but since there is a huge difference between iOS and Android I would say I'm a noob here .
I already searched for a solution using google and the search function of xda but couldn't find anything so I thought it would be best to create a thread myself.
What I want to do is delete the OS of my smartphone entirely and download the original or maybe a custom OS (I don't mind) and install it on my phone. I want to do this because I think my phone got old and doesnt perform so well anymore in many points, also the battery consumption got higher with time.
Thank you in advance!

Try do a factory reset first. If it doesn't work then, download the latest ROM for your version of Note4. Odin it to your phone.