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Anyone thinking of getting Epic 4G

Now that we know the Epic 4G is officially coming to sprint is anyone returning their evos?
Personally i think:
Epic 4G wins in:
graphics processing
CPU processing
Display (even though evos in bigger)
Evo 4G wins in:
Developers/XDA community (biggy for me)
Phone look (its just sexyyy)
High Res cam in front and back
Sense (even though i prefer vanilla)
Epic 4G loses in:
****ty Samsung Android "skin" w.e its called
SAMSUNG!!
No Devs.....
Evo 4G Loses in:
30 FPS - although a fix has been made thanks to our devs
There were more issues at launch but all of been fixed minus the screen separation which HTC is "looking into"......
So what do you guys say?

EVO-lution said:
Now that we know the Epic 4G is officially coming to sprint is anyone returning their evos?
Personally i think:
Epic 4G wins in:
graphics processing
CPU processing
Display super (even though evos in bigger)
Evo 4G wins in:
Developers/XDA community (biggy for me)
Phone look (its just sexyyy)
High Res cam in front and back
Sense (even though i prefer vanilla)
Epic 4G loses in:
****ty Samsung Android "skin" w.e its called
SAMSUNG!!
No Devs.....
Evo 4G Loses in:
30 FPS - although a fix has been made thanks to our devs
There were more issues at launch but all of been fixed minus the screen separation which HTC is "looking into"......
So what do you guys say?
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I say Evo wins and you're gonna get an eyeful for making this thread in the development board.

neckface said:
I say Evo wins and you're gonna get an eyeful for making this thread in the development board.
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Ya ****t ...... i just realised..... sorry everyone... MODs plsssss move to general

EVO-lution said:
Ya ****t ...... i just realised..... sorry everyone... MODs plsssss move to general
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Epic 4g is still going to be a WIN... i wouldnt trade my EVO for it... but i def. will get one when its out... it will eventually catch on here at XDA... hell there is Dell and Motorolas on here now... why not samsung...
about the samsung touchwiz crap... think about it... all it is is a skin over vanilla...??? freaking 1/2 the people here are always crying about how much sense sucks anyway... so why not...
i have been reading how its being knocked about not having all the "social" crap of sense... obviously the person writing that has not looked at the market for a long long while... or forgot that this isnt an iphone...
Epic will be as good as the EVO if not better simply because of the hummingbird processor...

Depending on the price I'm getting one as a spare

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Depending on the price I'm getting one as a spare
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I switched from T-Mobile for the Evo, I have -no idea- how their upgrade system works. Do you think I'll be able to upgrade, given I -just- started my contract with them?

Me and another guy went to return our EVO's today, in light of the EPIC, well, the fact we went in yesterday for the same ****, but my buddy running the store told me yesterday they have no info at all on release date..
He got some info from Sprint today, release date is "black friday" the last friday before thanks giving...
Hell of a long time to wait, regardless if I could of returned my EVO, put my sprint service on a **** phone, and kept my 2 year upgrade/new contract eligability available until the EPIC comes out...
5 months? To hell with that. Ill probally be able to sell my EVO in a little bit shy of 100$ of what the epic will cost me in full. so to hell with it, We kept our EVOs.
I hate sense. I cant stand the 30FPS cap, I never use the HDMI the way i thought it would be implemented, and that extra $10 fee for .. well, nothing is kind of starting to bother me the more I think about it.
In the end, evo still crushes my other friends iphone4, even though their so ****ing stupid and wont accept anything besides there own opinion, and just tried to laugh at the evo apparently. i-d-i-o-t-s.
..still most of me likes the nexus more but tmobile just sucks in my area.

you will not have to wait till the black friday... by that time (end of summer / fall) we will be playing with nVidia Tegra powered phones running in the neighborhood of 1.2ghz to 1.5ghz natively ... that can push 1080p with a breeze and have better battery life than snapdragon powered devices ... unfortunately 1st run of nVidia Tegra powered phones will be windows 7 instead of android ...

looks like a childs toy, untill they make a proper phone with keyboard that doesn't look like it comes from fisher price I say nay to thee!

docsparks said:
Me and another guy went to return our EVO's today, in light of the EPIC, well, the fact we went in yesterday for the same ****, but my buddy running the store told me yesterday they have no info at all on release date..
He got some info from Sprint today, release date is "black friday" the last friday before thanks giving...
Hell of a long time to wait, regardless if I could of returned my EVO, put my sprint service on a **** phone, and kept my 2 year upgrade/new contract eligability available until the EPIC comes out...
5 months? To hell with that. Ill probally be able to sell my EVO in a little bit shy of 100$ of what the epic will cost me in full. so to hell with it, We kept our EVOs.
I hate sense. I cant stand the 30FPS cap, I never use the HDMI the way i thought it would be implemented, and that extra $10 fee for .. well, nothing is kind of starting to bother me the more I think about it.
In the end, evo still crushes my other friends iphone4, even though their so ****ing stupid and wont accept anything besides there own opinion, and just tried to laugh at the evo apparently. i-d-i-o-t-s.
..still most of me likes the nexus more but tmobile just sucks in my area.
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damn...black friday..that is too long to wait

Black Friday is the day AFTER Thanksgiving what would put it at November 26th.

"The EVO 4G, while having an impressive set of specifications, still runs a 65 nm chip that is less power efficient and pales in terms of graphics performance when compared to the Galaxy S." http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=17125 good read comparing the processors, Super AMOLED is way better, colors, battery, everything, and the hummingbird has a superior GPU and is only a 45nm compared to our 65nm. HTC has always been about numbers, get the 1GHz processor, 8MP camera, 4.3" screen, but not always the best quality of them. the Epic may be better in some respects.
I wouldn't give my EVO for an EPIC right now though, xda, quality and reliability of HTC hardware, and sense (menus and contacts, not widgets) are just to good to pass up. Also, I don't really like any hardware keyboard after the TP2, samsungs is still not on the same level. samsungs sometimes feel cheap, HTC's feel and look like higher quality devices.
Its Apples and Oranges, just get your Bananas out of here.
*EDIT*
Also I have heard from Sprint Reps the EPIC will be out no later than August, more likely mid July.
Additionally CLEAR will be starting phone services this year and have announced HTC and Samsung devices, most likely these two.

Hardware keyboards are one thing (I tend to not like them), but horizontal hardware keyboards are just terrible. Am I the only one that almost never holds their phone horizontally?
I'll keep my EVO, or go with the standard Galaxy S, as long as it can go Vanilla.

sorry, im an htc guy

datafirm said:
Hardware keyboards are one thing (I tend to not like them), but horizontal hardware keyboards are just terrible. Am I the only one that almost never holds their phone horizontally?
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I have only ever liked the Blackberry Curve 8330, but on the horizontal thing, I too, barely hold it like that, it is good for games and some occasions, but I prefer Vertically. :]

Ya know I had my EVO 4G for like 3 weeks and then i Traded it in for an iPhone 4 I just had to see what the hype was about and see if the battery thing was true....its not i charge this **** 2 times a day just like my evo (Biggest Mistake of my Life I had that signal issue rly bad) but im kindda stuck for now because i want to ether get the white EVO 4G or the Epic but i need a Release date id hate to get stuck in a ATT contract cuz they suck here in NYC im praying for a July 15 Surprise Release Date
thats when the New Rim phones Drop and the Droid X and the White EVO Golden Day?

I was interested in this phone also until I did a bit more research on custom roms etc. There won't be any!
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.

I can tell the OP never had a Samsung phone the Moment which is also a Samsung phone does have a development community behind it, Google SDX-Developers.
Also the skin can be replaced easily and cooking an AOSP ROM isn't exactly hard. Two big pluses I can't get over that keep ringing in my head are the sexy as hell SUPER AMOLED screen and the Hummingbird processor, which spanks the Snapdragon in every benchmark.
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I was interested in this phone also until I did a bit more research on custom roms etc. There won't be any!
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
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Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about no offense, Samsung phones have been rooted and modified for a long long time there is no special settings or protection. And a kernal HAS to be produced by law, since Android is an Open Source project.
Look for yourself, wow no community at all:
http://www.sdx-developers.com/

Sebrina said:
I can tell the OP never had a Samsung phone the Moment which is also a Samsung phone does have a development community behind it, Google SDX-Developers.
Also the skin can be replaced easily and cooking an AOSP ROM isn't exactly hard. Two big pluses I can't get over that keep ringing in my head are the sexy as hell SUPER AMOLED screen and the Hummingbird processor, which spanks the Snapdragon in every benchmark.
Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about no offense, Samsung phones have been rooted and modified for a long long time there is no special settings or protection. And a kernal HAS to be produced by law, since Android is an Open Source project.
Look for yourself, wow no community at all:
http://www.sdx-developers.com/
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Did I say anything about root? What does root have to do with drivers?? Maybe you need to do some research!! Samsung has their own security on the phone to protect their drivers!! This is a fact. Go read the Samung Galaxy S forums that are right here and thats been the case with past Samsung phones.
I didnt mention kernel either. Did you even read my post?

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Did I say anything about root? What does root have to do with drivers?? Maybe you need to do some research!! Samsung has their own security on the phone to protect their drivers!! This is a fact. Go read the Samung Galaxy S forums that are right here and thats been the case with past Samsung phones.
I didnt mention kernel either. Did you even read my post?
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If that's been the case with past Samsung phones, then why are there like 20+ custom ROMs for the Moment alone that work perfectly fine with original drivers and are completely different from stock builds.
I know this because I came from a Moment been rooting/flashing/hacking it since the day it was released, this is the first I've ever heard of anything like this and it was never a problem then, unless this is new for the Galaxy S line which I doubt.
Also the reason I brought up custom ROMs was because you brought them up:
Apparently Samsung has some kind of security on the phone that you can't touch the drivers. From what I read its impossible to do ANYTHING without the drivers.
It doesn't look good at all for custom roms etc on the Samsung. Just not worth losing all the custom things on my EVO.
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Go look at my link you'll see a wide library of Samsung custom ROM builds, so how is it impossible to have custom ROMs on a Samsung phone?

[Q] Can I get some Opinions Please?

I have a G2. I love it. I have a Vibrant as well. I hate it. I have exchanged it 5 times for warranty I think. When talking to T-mobile they offered to exchange it for any device of equal retail value, within the next 30 days. I have until November 15 to decide what I want.
Since I already have a G2, what should I do? Should I get the MyTouch? Should I get the HD7? What would you do? Why?
Help me make a hard decision. I am leaning heavily towards the MyTouch. Can you think of any reason for me not too?

I would get another G2, wait a little while, get an unlock code from Tmo and then sell it on Ebay or Craigslist and keep the cash for the holidays

I would get a WP7 phone because this way youll be able to compare the two platforms (if you are a true phone geek)..... and if you dont like it, you can sell it for cold hard cash because it WILL be in demand for the holidays.

funkadesi said:
I would get a WP7 phone because this way youll be able to compare the two platforms (if you are a true phone geek)..... and if you dont like it, you can sell it for cold hard cash because it WILL be in demand for the holidays.
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LOL you are kidding, right?

I recommend getting the WP7 because the MTHD is just another Android device. Get the WP7 and see if it's a worthy platform. If you hate it, sell it.

I am severely torn actually. The problem I have with the WP7 is that it doesn't support the + network. They say the screen isn't so great.
The reason I can't decide about the MyTouch is because, really how much different will it be from my G2? I don't need a FFC, but I could use WIFI calling. Really the biggest reason I am considering the whole MyTouch is because at school I get 0 signal but I can get on the WIFI. It is to come with WIFI calling out of the box.
I guess I will have to go to the Store and compare before I make up my mind. I don't think anything better will be out before Christmas, so it is one of the two. I have to get rid of the POS Vibrant.
I wanted to love it but it is just way too buggy, laggy, and there is no support.
Any more suggestions?

The screen is pretty good. It's not the one on the HD2. I would definitely take the HD7.
You should have opened a poll.

Gr8gorilla said:
The reason I can't decide about the MyTouch is because, really how much different will it be from my G2? I don't need a FFC, but I could use WIFI calling. Really the biggest reason I am considering the whole MyTouch is because at school I get 0 signal but I can get on the WIFI. It is to come with WIFI calling out of the box.
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There were OTA updates rolling out for some G2 owners a few days ago. There are rumors that T-Mobile will make it official soon and have it spread. The OTA included UMA support (what you listed as "wifi calling"; to be fair, the application calls it that too). The biggest reason I returned my G2 was because it doesn't support UMA yet; I didn't realize how much I relied on it with my BB Pearl until I couldn't use the cell radio indoors.

ericc191 said:
The screen is pretty good. It's not the one on the HD2. I would definitely take the HD7.
You should have opened a poll.
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But the processor is the 1GHZ with the adreno 200. That means that the graphics will suffer in 3d games. Since the WP7 is supposed to be a huge gaming platform that worries me.

The reason it's called WiFi calling is that's because that's all it is. It isn't UMA. With UMA the call can be handed off to 3G seemlessly when you leave a WiFi area. The WiFi calling does not hand off the call, so in actuality it's not UMA at all.
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There were OTA updates rolling out for some G2 owners a few days ago. There are rumors that T-Mobile will make it official soon and have it spread. The OTA included UMA support (what you listed as "wifi calling"; to be fair, the application calls it that too). The biggest reason I returned my G2 was because it doesn't support UMA yet; I didn't realize how much I relied on it with my BB Pearl until I couldn't use the cell radio indoors.
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Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

id get the htc hd2. its a winmo phone, its got the 1ghz processor, plus you can install android on it anyways if you want.

I appreciate everyone chiming in with an opinion. I have made a choice and it is going to be the teeny clone of my G2.
Basically the hardware of the HD7 just doesn't cut it for me. It has the last generation processor. It has the old GPU and all reports say the screen is much less than impressive.
If it had hardware anywhere close to the G2 or MyTouch(4G) then I would love to give WP7 a shot. As it stands I am not going to take my $500 credit (that is what it is basically) and get last years hardware with this years OS on it. I just cant waste money like that.

Gr8gorilla said:
I appreciate everyone chiming in with an opinion. I have made a choice and it is going to be the teeny clone of my G2.
Basically the hardware of the HD7 just doesn't cut it for me. It has the last generation processor. It has the old GPU and all reports say the screen is much less than impressive.
If it had hardware anywhere close to the G2 or MyTouch(4G) then I would love to give WP7 a shot. As it stands I am not going to take my $500 credit (that is what it is basically) and get last years hardware with this years OS on it. I just cant waste money like that.
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While it may have the 1st generation Snapdragon, it's far from outdated. And you miss a key point with the Adreno 200. Microsoft has written drivers for it. Microsoft will also be supporting Xbox mobile with a lot of titles and updates. With Android, which has been out for 2 years, your options are tower defense, angry birds, and fruit ninja. There's also emulation, but that will come to WP7 too. However, the G2's keyboard is superior for emulation.
Here's some gameplay on the older adreno 200..
Need For Speed
Harvest Clip 1
Harvest Clip 2
Engadget - Bottom 3 videos
Rocket Riot from the 360 is also being ported to WP7. There's even talk of a Halo game.
EDIT: I hope these links help. The G2 is an awesome phone, but I wanted to make sure you had the facts about the Adreno 200.

Gingerbread
I wish I could own everyphone that comes out.
Spend it wisely, if you love android... get android!!!
Gingerbread hopefully will put Microsoft into shame.

Nexus S - Disappointment?

Anyone else think that the Nexus S is kind of a disappointment?
There's nothing revolutionary or really exciting about it. It's specs sound like it's just another Galaxy S device. No dual core, no HSDPA+, nada.
Now, to be clear, I'm talking just about the device itself. Not Gingerbread. Gingerbread looks hot. Curious to hear what you folks think about the device.

No sd card slot but has a 16 gig storage. I guessing Google corrected the available memory issue with 2. 3
I think it to early to draw up any conclusions with what we have on hand.
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It's a Samsung which for me, after my experience with the Vibrant, equals 'never again'.
If anything I do hope that the Nexus S, by extension, will provide some much needed relief to those who are sticking it out with their Vibrants, etc.
Just my take, I'm not a phone buff or geek, I just want my device to work properly, which is why I switched to the G2.

I've had a vibrant. Felt too cheap to me. Sad part it wasn't cheap. Paid 500 for it. The lack of support and gps issue is what turned me away. It was a nice phone. Just not my style. As I'm sure just by looking at the nexsus s, they will have the same issues. But I could be wrong. Maybe google will put a flame under samsungs butt and make them correct their errors in a fast manner.
[G2/HTC Vision]

smutek said:
It's a Samsung
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That simple little statement is what made me turn my head. I love Google, and I think them working to make a phone with a company means it will be a good phone. I believe Samsung will get more respect from this phone, but Samsung's plastic has always stood out and this phone looks like it has just as much as any other Samsung phone. It has decent specs, nothing groundbreaking by any means, but just as nice as any other smart phone out now.
Remind me, wasn't the N1 the first phone to have a 1GHz processor? At least one of the first? I figured Google's second phone would be VERY top of the line instead of average.

r3s-rt said:
Remind me, wasn't the N1 the first phone to have a 1GHz processor? At least one of the first? I figured Google's second phone would be VERY top of the line instead of average.
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Yeeeep. It was the very first. Big reason I dumped my Droid for the Nexus One way back when. That and I didn't like Verizon's service.
That's part of the reason I was so disappointed with the specs on the Nexus S. Nothing revolutionary again. Just another Galaxy S.

If I were holding out for the Nexus S, then yes, I would be disappointed. But I wasn't since I'm still in love with my G2. Can't believe Google would let this thing go to T-Mobile USA with those specs. Not dual core, no HSPA+, less ram than the MyTouch, less screen than the HD7, no hdmi out, not even a kickstand? Can a brother get a kickstand? And this is supposed to be the flagship Android phone? Ha, it won't even be the best phone at T-Mobile.

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If I were holding out for the Nexus S, then yes, I would be disappointed. But I wasn't since I'm still in love with my G2. Can't believe Google would let this thing go to T-Mobile USA with those specs. Not dual core, no HSPA+, less ram than the MyTouch, less screen than the HD7, no hdmi out, not even a kickstand? Can a brother get a kickstand? And this is supposed to be the flagship Android phone? Ha, it won't even be the best phone at T-Mobile.
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*golf clap*
+1

I have already heard it reviewed as Nexus 1.5, not 2.0 !

Umm, isn't this is a bit off-topic ?
*runs and hides*

unremarked said:
Nothing revolutionary again. Just another Galaxy S.
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exactly wut i was thinking. oh and wuts your avatar? isnt that the symbol from reboot?

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oh and wuts your avatar? isnt that the symbol from reboot?
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Indeed. Great show. Kids these days don't know what they're missing.

long story short, its a disappointment.

TBH, the only thing I am actually DISAPOINTED with is the lack of an Orion processor... rumor had it that it was delayed because of that issue! What is gonna happen is in 2 months all the tegra 2 devices are gonna start showing up and your "Flagship" device is already sub-par/obsolete

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TBH, the only thing I am actually DISAPOINTED with is the lack of an Orion processor... rumor had it that it was delayed because of that issue! What is gonna happen is in 2 months all the tegra 2 devices are gonna start showing up and your "Flagship" device is already sub-par/obsolete
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just in time for a Nexus 2 ...
new **** happens. there's money to be made beforehand.

Sooo disappointed
First of all, I love my N1 and sorry for the long post but i have to vent.
I bought a Nexus One in February when it came for T-mobile only and then gave it away to my brother in law who had T-Mobile when the AT&T N1 came out and bought that. My contract with AT&T has been up for a couple of months now and i was really hoping for a device (from google) that would be better than the N1 (for future proofing for at least 6 months).
Well this device is better than the N1 but not enough to ditch the N1 and get this. Here are the reasons:
Biggest disappointment: Only a 5 MP camera still? Come on Google? The EVO has an 8MP camera and has been out for months. I know phone cameras really aren't meant to replace traditional digital cameras but my sisters EVO takes pictures that are great (in the correct light) and if i had that i wouldn't even buy a new digital camera.
Second biggest disappointment: Not CDMA. I want to switch to sprint or verizon. If Google/ Samsung comes out with a CDMA version i might overlook the other disappointments and ditch the N1.
Now other reasons why Nexus S is not really that much better than the N1 to warrant another $529.
Processor: I don't know too much about the speed difference in the processors but i'm assuming they will roughly perform the same. However, i think within next couple of months new Android / Non-Android phones will come out with better processors and this will be outdated. I must add though, i haven't really seen any lag on the 1 ghz.
Video: I'm guessing the Nexus S will record 720p video, but so does my N1 (with cyanogen) and so does the EVO and many many other devices. 1080 would have been the next step and another reason i might have upgraded. Not on my top priority list though.
I don't really care that much about that NFC thing. I am curious to try it, but not enough to shell out $529 (i don't want contracts). Once more vendors support this it will become more important but not at this point.
Nexus S will probably be better for 3D gaming as the GPU on N1 supposedly sucks. I'm assuming the gingerbread advantage for 3d gaming will also be applicable to N1 but Nexus S will probably have a better GPU. I don't care about this too much because i don't play much 3d games on phones anyway but other people might weigh this more.

Yes to me its a Flopfor the the simple fact its just a google version of Galaxy S. BUT then again, after my experiance with my behold II, i will NEVER buy a samsung phone again, thats just me though... Besides my G2 is great been a while since i had a phone i was happy with.

adil06944 said:
First of all, I love my N1 and sorry for the long post but i have to vent.
I bought a Nexus One in February when it came for T-mobile only and then gave it away to my brother in law who had T-Mobile when the AT&T N1 came out and bought that. My contract with AT&T has been up for a couple of months now and i was really hoping for a device (from google) that would be better than the N1 (for future proofing for at least 6 months).
Well this device is better than the N1 but not enough to ditch the N1 and get this. Here are the reasons:
Biggest disappointment: Only a 5 MP camera still? Come on Google? The EVO has an 8MP camera and has been out for months. I know phone cameras really aren't meant to replace traditional digital cameras but my sisters EVO takes pictures that are great (in the correct light) and if i had that i wouldn't even buy a new digital camera.
Second biggest disappointment: Not CDMA. I want to switch to sprint or verizon. If Google/ Samsung comes out with a CDMA version i might overlook the other disappointments and ditch the N1.
Now other reasons why Nexus S is not really that much better than the N1 to warrant another $529.
Processor: I don't know too much about the speed difference in the processors but i'm assuming they will roughly perform the same. However, i think within next couple of months new Android / Non-Android phones will come out with better processors and this will be outdated. I must add though, i haven't really seen any lag on the 1 ghz.
Video: I'm guessing the Nexus S will record 720p video, but so does my N1 (with cyanogen) and so does the EVO and many many other devices. 1080 would have been the next step and another reason i might have upgraded. Not on my top priority list though.
I don't really care that much about that NFC thing. I am curious to try it, but not enough to shell out $529 (i don't want contracts). Once more vendors support this it will become more important but not at this point.
Nexus S will probably be better for 3D gaming as the GPU on N1 supposedly sucks. I'm assuming the gingerbread advantage for 3d gaming will also be applicable to N1 but Nexus S will probably have a better GPU. I don't care about this too much because i don't play much 3d games on phones anyway but other people might weigh this more.
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Agreed. I'll be sticking with my overclocked G2 until we see 1.5ghz Dual Core chips with all of the bells and whistles these companies are cooking up.

CDMA blows

Dear Motorola...it was fun but...

you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.

its funny i had the inspire for 2 weeks....got rid of it a few days ago
got the Atrix...and THANK GOD I DID
4.3 inches at the **** resolution its at was a disaster, hurt my hands. Too heavy
not very fast, barely played videos (htc codecs suck)
Like you said, it comes down to opinion
but switching from inspire 4g to atrix was the best thing I ever did
PS: The battery on that thing gave me EPIC NIGHTMARES.

Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?

tosh1 said:
you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
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You actually can go wrong with HTC, its when they put a 1200 mah battery in a 1.8 ghz capable phone then you get to watch your battery lose a percent every 4 minutes of use. I had one it was totally BS battery life and was totally unacceptable. Then people say "just don't OC it" so then you have a 4.3 inch captivate with less ui lag, no usable internal memory storage, and GPS that works.
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Did u try launcher pro plus first motoblur is **** ill give you that but the phone is fast good battery life screen is nice... I'm loving it

i can't wait until i leave my epic 4g from sprint and come to the atrix community
i am tired of htc, samsung and sprints games so it times to give motorola and att a chance

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Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
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Or a
'I treat my phone like a dog' thread
'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'

Seconded.
robstunner said:
Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
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HTC phones are so GENERIC. Its insulting you would even compare such a tired, re-hash of a device to the ATRIX.

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SS2006 said:
Or a
'I treat my phone like a dog' thread
'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
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Lol ;-)
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I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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LedGrip said:
I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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i like the Evo and a lot of people i kno and see around campus have either the evo or iphone 4, very few galaxy S phone, but honestly i think the Atrix is better then all of them, even the Galaxy S II won't compare judging from the specs that were given(but i can't prove it until the phone comes out so it's just an opinion)

I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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Had Inspire and Atrix. Kept Atrix. The end.
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I've had many htc phones and have always had a good experience. I had a hard time waiting for the atrix when I saw the inspire for $100. At that price point it is a steal for the features you get. In the end i'm glad I waited though. The Atrix is rediculously good!!! Super fast and great battery life (I get about 16 hours a charge... 16!!!) It is hands down the best phone i've ever used. Head shoulders and more above the rest, a GIANT among a sea of average phones.
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I was impressed by the Inspire back when it came out on Sprint as the Evo... what, eight months ago? I made the mistake of buying old hardware that just came out once, the Hero. Never again.
Coming from the Captivate, the only things I miss are how vibrant the games looked on SAMOLED and flashing the new hot stuff roms.
Do not miss accidently bricking the thing and having to use a USB jig to fix it though...

I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.

jchoong said:
I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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It really is perplexing -the decision to lock the bootloader. I mean, are they afraid someone would engineer a program that steals fingerprints...etc?

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Was checking the best buy website today and the Sprint Nexus S phone now has an add to cart button.
When processing the purchase it gives an Estimated Arrival: 04/18-04/21/2011
I opened a chat with a best buy rep and was told:
you : Is a release date available?
Tech: The date is on 4/18/2011
Just an FYI for those who care.

I just chatted with a Bestbuy rep and she said that if anyone pre-orders it and is with a different carrier they will be eligible for the $125 rebate that Sprint is offering if it is done before the 16th.

We're getting dual core's this summer, you're better off sticking with the Epic. The nexus s 4g is the exact same, except for it's running gb and has an NFC chip.

Yeah of rather have the epic over the nexus s
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I'm holding out for CM7 on my Epic. I'm happy with the Epic for now. It has everything I need and some things I don't (keyboard). I'm not really looking to get back into Samsung unless it is a Nexus because its pure google. My girl wants one so will get one for her and get rid of her Epic, but as for me I agree about holding out for later this year.

Epic 4g> Nexus s 4g
only benefit is that its pure google and that chip oh and gingerbread
but i like my epic hardware keyboard better then those things
im happy with froyo and besides if people do but this phone it may make it easier to port new Android versions and stuff like 4g working on CM7 and what not.

davidrules7778 said:
Epic 4g> Nexus s 4g
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Not at all. If anything Epic = Nexus S, but there is no logical reason to consider it better.

063_XOBX said:
Not at all. If anything Epic = Nexus S, but there is no logical reason to consider it better.
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Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.

davidrules7778 said:
Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.
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That's a personal preference thing, I could argue that thinner is better, it certainly doesn't make one better than the other.

Yep to personal preference... if i could switch to the Nexus... in a heart beat will i ? HELL NO it's not worth the amount of money.... ill wait for a decent Dual Core

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That's a personal preference thing, I could argue that thinner is better, it certainly doesn't make one better than the other.
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too me, i think the epic has some of the best hardware and is the only top of the line phone with the hardware kb and for a keyboard phone i think it is so sexy and thin
compared to the moment, the tp2 tp1, i think a lot more people like having that keyboard, all my friends that have galaxy s variants hate me cause i have the hardware keyboard.
but your right it is a preference
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?

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too me, i think the epic has some of the best hardware and is the only top of the line phone with the hardware kb and for a keyboard phone i think it is so sexy and thin
compared to the moment, the tp2 tp1, i think a lot more people like having that keyboard, all my friends that have galaxy s variants hate me cause i have the hardware keyboard.
but your right it is a preference
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?
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I know you didn't ask me but....
I Got the epic b/c of the processor and i didn't know the keyboard would wobble so much and kill a piece of me every time i touched the screen...

davidrules7778 said:
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?
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I did have the Evo originally and it's still sitting in my drawer in the event I need a backup phone.
I switched for 3 Reasons.
The extremely poor GPU in the Evo.
It's weight vs. the Epic (or any SGS)
The direction HTC is going in.

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We're getting dual core's this summer, you're better off sticking with the Epic. The nexus s 4g is the exact same, except for it's running gb and has an NFC chip.
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Are we getting dual core pure Google phones on sprint? Is the next Nexus close to the horizon and in dual core?

davidrules7778 said:
Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.
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Emulators and gaming were cool for like the first week for me. Since then, not so much.

063_XOBX said:
I did have the Evo originally and it's still sitting in my drawer in the event I need a backup phone.
I switched for 3 Reasons.
The extremely poor GPU in the Evo.
It's weight vs. the Epic (or any SGS)
The direction HTC is going in.
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agreed.
i will be picking up my nexus 4g the day it comes out, why? i am going to be stuck in a contract for 2 years with it. there is no doubts in my mind, the sgx540 in the SGS lineup is hands down the best phone gpu on the market (check glbenckmark.com) in terms of overall benchmark gpu scores the nexus s is 4 slots down from the ipad 2 (you know that new dual core tablet thats been crushing everything in terms of speed) so as far as i see it i have a choice between the epic or the ns4g. the epic is a decent enough phone. i love hard ware keyboards, but i want upgrades for 2 years... ask anyone on the nexus forums if they regret getting a nexus device. im willing to bet 99.9 of them will tell you they love having 2.3.3
i couldnt care at all about nfc (yay non scannable qr codes... woopie..) but its more about the simple things. i very rarely run any stock rom, most of the time is cyanogenmod, i congratulate the devs on trying so hard to bring it to the epic but its still got a bit to go. i guarantee the nexus s 4g will have an official repo/build within a week of cm7.
now whats the worst part about nexus s 4g? the camcorder.. its locked at 480p due to hardware limitations, but i can get over that as i dont use my phone as a video camera. no sd card slot? nah ive owned cell phones before they used microsd, and i own an ipod.. so im kinda used to the whole concept of being stuck with a size, besides refer to above point.. no video means less space taken up by media. no i would have to say the worst part about getting a nexus s 4g is knowing that with gb out and hc being held off for tablets only.. that ice cream is a bit off and that means its gunna be a bit of a wait for me to get my next dose of android medicine.
P.S i know i cant be the only one hoping that moto gets skipped on the next nexus device and lg gets it

For those who are interested, I just got a 10% off coupon in the email from Best Buy. That means a 10% discount on preorders of. Nexxus S
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I have this dumb habit of getting the cooler (in MY opinion) and more unique thing when I have a choice between it and something a little less cool but better supported. I own a Zune instead of an iPod, a Mazdaspeed3 instead of a WRX, I used to have an HPI RC car instead of an Associated RC-* that was gas powered instead of electric, and an Epic instead of an Evo, etc.
On one hand, I have never once wanted to kick the phone across the parking lot like I did with the Hero, but on the other hand, the Evo has more accessories that can be bought in brick and mortar stores, more custom ROMs including a more functional CM (much love, you guys really picked a whore of a phone to port to) and more fully functioning root apps.
I know in my heart that if I did get the Evo, I'd be kicking myself for not getting the far more powerful Epic. In this upgrade cycle I think I made the right decision to give Samsung another chance. I still don't trust them to the level of HTC (started with them back in the Titan days) but if they can make a hot-rod Google Experience phone then I'm definitely on board.
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Top Nurse said:
For those who are interested, I just got a 10% off coupon in the email from Best Buy. That means a 10% discount on preorders of. Nexxus S
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that coupon is no good on contract phones.

That new EVO looks pretty sweet. I think I'm going to hold out for it. And for those of you that get your phones from Best Buy, you are better off going to a Sprint Store.