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Seen on Tweeter:
@SamFirmware
"Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab."
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/55595012687282177
"today in meeting Samsung told me no 3.0 for Galaxy Tab. (Problem = Hardware.)"
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/55600489827549184
To put these statements in perspective:
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/galaxy-tab-qa-honeycomb-tablet-coming-next-year/
"The Samsung Galaxy Tab will launch with FroYo (Android 2.2) and eventually be upgraded to Gingerbread (maybe Android 3.0), but Samsung said Honeycomb was for a different kind of tablet experience."
“Moving forward with Honeycomb, that will be used in the next generation tablet as it is specifically optimized for different type of tablet, and will be used on another product only.”
it stinks samsung, samsung ever for me, any product that carries this brand will be part of my house !!!!!!!!!!
he not take care of their customers and it will lose one today! of that there is a 7-inch tab with another brand, I buy, preference for HTC !!!
thanks for this news, even if it is bad
Have they posted the source for this 'quote'? Probably not. Things like this shouldn't be believed until its official.
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I would take anything samfirmware takes with a pinch of salt. It was the same site that said Samsung IS updating to honeycomb not so long back.
Until Samsung themselves say anything ill wait.
daniel.weck said:
Seen on Tweeter:
"@SamFirmware: Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab."
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Should have posted with source link. Otherwise.....
"@SamFirmware: Samsung: No Android 3.0 for Galaxy Tab but free ipads for tab owners."
Agreed! Lets wait for an official response but I'm pretty sure its true.
Ps-this has nothing to do with development do why did you put it in this section? We all need to do our part in cleaning & maintaining these threads.
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These are the same people who have bricked more tabs than fixed.
I trust Samfirmwares as far as I can throw a fat kid. Bout 2 inches.
I dont see an abysmal difference between 2.2, 2.3 ... 3.0, everything works pretty much the same. the layout of 3.0 may not be the best for a 7inch tablet anyways... perhaps google will meet us halfway and release something that is not 3.0 but will run apps made for 3.0 or something like that. if we never get 3.0 its not going to be a big deal for me, maybe I am on a different situation because I just got it, and most of you have had it for while. and I could get the xoom if 3.0 was that big of a deal but I've played with the xoom and its just too big for me, I like the portability of the galaxy tab and that is more imporant that having honeycomb.
Honeycomb was the last reason to keep GTAB... now i will sell it and buy Kindle...
faust86 said:
Honeycomb was the last reason to keep GTAB... now i will sell it and buy Kindle...
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How many devices are out there right now with ROMs on them that aren't official or haven't even been released?
Crummy reason to give up the best available tablet on the market today. (That's called an opinion, and I'm entitled to mine)
I'm fairly confident that at some stage we will have fully functional and stable honeycomb on our tabs. Does it really matter if it's not an official Samsung release?
After all, if all we're interested in is getting official updates from vendor sources then there's little or no point being on these forums.
Have faith in the developers here, in my opinion they provide more reliable roms than the vendors!
just one question, what the hell do you guys expect? if somebody port honeycomb to the tab we will have it. but whats the point? what you are actual missing on your tab? why need sooo much honeycomb? i guess in 95% of all cases its just the childish "must have" instinct like me....
so stay calm, lets enjoy our tab and stop to blame samsung....
I did quite trust the dev here, more than a samsung, but I am disappointed to have paid a very expensive tablet and end samsung not take care of customers, but many want our money !!!
I do not like their politics !!!
I trust samfirmware saying no honeycomb for the galaxy tab as much as I trust apple to tell me a quote from samsung[1]. wait for official sources to confirm or deny.
[1] referring to steve jobs displaying the misquote of samsung's ceo at the iPad2 event
abuser0815 said:
just one question, what the hell do you guys expect? if somebody port honeycomb to the tab we will have it. but whats the point? what you are actual missing on your tab? why need sooo much honeycomb? i guess in 95% of all cases its just the childish "must have" instinct like me....
so stay calm, lets enjoy our tab and stop to blame samsung....
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Maybe because some apps will only work on honeycomb.
Can anyone here honestly say that they bought there Tab because Samsung said that it would get Honeycomb? I don't recall Samsung ever officially saying anything of the sort personally, though I stand ready to be corrected!
Yes, it would be really nice to get an official Honeycomb ROM, but when I bought my Tab I knew it was coming with Froyo and I knew that Samsungs track record in the past with respect to new Android versions wasn't great.
If we get Gingerbread out of Samsung, I'd say that was a win personally.
Regards,
Dave
EDIT: Interesting article here dated September 2010, where Samsung effectively say that the Tab 7" wouldn't get Honeycomb.
HoneyComb IS here...
Hey guys its actually already been done. A russian developer already flashed it, and it works. ofcourse its an alfa version and there are tons of stuff that is not working, but that means in a few weeks and with all the smart people we have here, it will be done. Here is the link
http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/android-30-honeycomb-galaxy-tab-gsm.html
Mohamed Sewidan
even htc flyer will be offered honeycomb.
http://www.carrypad.com/2011/04/06/...t-how-will-it-work-with-inking-and-htc-sense/
samsung has to do better to keep their customers.
msewidan said:
Hey guys its actually already been done. A russian developer already flashed it, and it works. ofcourse its an alfa version and there are tons of stuff that is not working, but that means in a few weeks and with all the smart people we have here, it will be done. Here is the link
http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/android-30-honeycomb-galaxy-tab-gsm.html
Mohamed Sewidan
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Erhhh, you're coming a bit late to the party here!
a) This is based on the work of spacemoose1 from these forums for CDMA Tabs.
b) Many people here have flashed it or tried flashing it.
c) At best, it can be considered a very early alpha - it isn't in a state where you could remotely use it as a daily driver!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Erhhh, you're coming a bit late to the party here!
a) This is based on the work of spacemoose1 from these forums for CDMA Tabs.
b) Many people here have flashed it or tried flashing it.
c) At best, it can be considered a very early alpha - it isn't in a state where you could remotely use it as a daily driver!
Regards,
Dave
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yes I completely agree but that means that we have hope that the devs are going to work on it to make it work. So saying No honeycone is not accurate.
Also Here is the link from the tab general forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023437
Is anyone going to develop/cook roms for the Thrive? Is anyone hacking or modding it or are they all over on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Thanks to Dalepl I now have a rooted Thrive and as soon as the Kernel is released by Toshiba I would expect great things for this tablet, it will happen fast as soon as the kernel is released!!!
thanks guys... of course nobody wants to buy the one that nobody uses. I like to think the galaxy sheep regret not having a USB port and other nice features we have.
Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,
3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.
The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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Raistlin1 said:
I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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I want a pony.
millemots said:
Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
span_01 said:
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.
Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.
chlrbwls said:
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
nandihno said:
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.
MMcCraryNJ said:
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
MMcCraryNJ said:
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.
Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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From SamMobile.com:
"Samsung has announced that both the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Tab can handle the upgrade to Android 4.0 when looking purely at speed of the device.
However the upgrade will not arrive on these devices simply because certain hardware features will not function.
The quantity of RAM and ROM in this is a big factor.
Some of the Touhwizz functions Samsung uses will not work when combined with Android 4.0 and one of these devices."
http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/22/official-no-android-4-0-for-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab/
Let the discussions begin!
I wasn't really expecting ICS :/ I guess this just makes it official that we won't get it.
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So take off touchwiz samfail!
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Everything they just listed as an issue why it can't get the upgrade is a load of ****.
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yup.. i'm running an early alpha of a CM9 based ICS on my Tab and it runs fine for not having hardware acceleration etc. So I know the same applies for the Epic. Sad that Samsuck just doesn't feel like putting the effort into supporting their devices.. Oh well, hooray capitalism! =P
So, here is their source for the story:
http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/2043
It's in Korean, and reading it through google translate of babelfish is good for a chuckle.
As I interpret it, they say that the Nexus S works because it requires no carrier customization , Touchwiz or region specific features.
Also, from the babel fish translation:
"The soluble memory dosage is insufficient and will provide a satisfied use environment
There is not a possibility.
This considers the hardware evening sunlight, use environment of optimum to the customers provision
Description below being a selection which is inevitable for to understand, wishes."
I think that may mean the phone is near end of life (hardware evening sunlight)
and customers wouldn't like how ICS runs on this hardware anyway.
Oh well, we'll see how CM9 runs.
I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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txtmikhail said:
I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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Seems fair...
It's really quite sad- Samsung seems to *MAKE* good hardware, they just have a piss-poor software development team.
phdeez said:
Seems fair...
It's really quite sad- Samsung seems to *MAKE* good hardware, they just have a piss-poor software development team.
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yes.. watch in six months when jelly bean come out.. sgs2 nor galaxy tabs will get it because of some bs with hardware/software(TW).. they gonna want us to upgrade to the sgs3 or galaxy tabs v2
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398010,00.asp
pcmag confirms.
MTD roms.........the alternative future?
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sonarchist said:
MTD roms.........the alternative future?
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Maybe, if there is an ICS port in the next 6 months that's smooth and fully functional I'd go there. But I'm moving on to LTE asap.
Just means no "official" ICS, I'm sure devs will have something for it. I would imagine that most of the people that know what they're missing will be on to new phones by then anyway.
Hopefully they can pull off cm9 for the gs series.
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Samsung just keeps on giving!
This is just Samsung being downright LAZY. Heck the Nexus S is getting ICS from them right? And that is most definitely a Galaxy S phone. They just don't want to be bothered to support the Galaxy S line as a whole anymore clearly.
If we didn't have to worry about touchwiz... it would be here by now... why do we need it when the UI of ICS is far superior. At the very least release the driver source files so that devs can do it for you... Samsung needs to be more open to developers in that regard.
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I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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+1 to this. I skipped the Galaxy Tabs for the same reason...well, that and the fact that they left out micro SD!
avlon said:
+1 to this. I skipped the Galaxy Tabs for the same reason...well, that and the fact that they left out micro SD!
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True. And hdmi....comes in handy over friends houses..
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Keep in mind that this isn't just Samsung's pickiness about having their TW branding. This is also a product of carrier demands. Carriers do NOT like (for the most part) unbranded, undifferentiated phones, and they especially don't like phones that aren't preloaded with software that represents services they provide.
Frankly, I was always convinced that arrangements such as VZN's with the NFL required them to have the app on all relevant phones. The NFL is anal like that.
IOW, it's a LOT of different factors coming together keeping ICS off of Galaxy S phones, many of which are problems with how the smartphone industry itself has come to work, and targeting one player while ignoring the bigger picture--though it sure makes life easier for journalists and bloggers--cheapens the whole conversation.
is that possible
Noons knows. Maybe, maybe not. Personally I'd say it's unlikely, with the KF being a budget tablet.
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I highly doubt it. Why would it? It uses such an altered form of Gingerbread as it is it hardly seems necessary. The android base is really just a method to deliver amazon services, and unless there is a tidal shift in app devs dropping gingerbread support, which isn't going to happen with the Fire's significant user base, then I see no reason for them to.
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is that possible
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officially?
No. At least not for a long, long time. And only then, it would be merely to continue having compatibility with future Android apps that may be targeted to ICS.
Yea i doubt if they would. If they do it will be really old.
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guys, JackpotClavin and other people are working on the port of ICS, you can check here for more info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411895
Edit: sorry, didn't see the word "official" on the question...
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