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Frequent 3g connectivity on/off on vista side

Hi.
Anyone with same problem. I only have seen it on vista side. Working with 3g conectivity. One minute is connected with tray icon showing globe. Then 30 isnt connected with tray icon showing computers with red cross. Then again connected 3 minutes. It seems a problem between vista side and internet sharing service from snapvue. I ve seen this issue in other spanish shift. Maybe a spanish version problem? any idea?
Thanks

Not much help I know but see my thread titled 'continued vista connection problems'. Have you been using internet sharing to gain access to WM 6.0? i noticed Activesync was always starting on the snapvue side which I think is linked to the constant disconnections.
A full restore from the restore partition solved my problem and I now get a steady 3g connection.

Thanks for your response. Not alone now. Format is a solution but we should know the origin of this problem. Obviosly is related with the way connects to 3g, this is, using Internet Shared connection with snapvue...but...why suddenly activesync (client or server part) tries to connect the other side and breaks the internet shared connection? any idea?Did you install sp1? is your shift language english or other one? ( I am trying to discard sources of the problem).
pd. While I write these lines on winmo side I can listen vista side sounds (connect/disconnect each minute...)

Hi,
I did some changes and It seems (by now) the problem is solved. I ve playing with continous 3g connections. This is what I did (I dont know which one did the trick).
1) Disable activesync usb connections for both sides( I did it for vista side days ago but know I did too in snapvue size.
2) Sevice Sync bluetooth Server stopped and set manually.
3) Reset both sides
Now I ve a stable 3g connection....

Daniel
Glad you got it working. What do you do to disable Activesync on the Snapvue side?
I only noticed this problem after installing SP1 but I was working mostly with WIFI so cannot be sure there is a link.

gavmiller said:
Daniel
Glad you got it working. What do you do to disable Activesync on the Snapvue side?
I only noticed this problem after installing SP1 but I was working mostly with WIFI so cannot be sure there is a link.
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Hi.
The problem is solved, now for sure. Open Activesync in winmo,then menu/connections and uncheck "use usb ...". I removed too the partership between both sides althought It isnt important, I think...

Thanks Daniel. Good to know incase it happens again.

Today I am having the same issue...mmm, I dont know what else I can do. I will post the events I can see in the event's viewer....

danielherrero said:
Today I am having the same issue...mmm, I dont know what else I can do. I will post the events I can see in the event's viewer....
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Hi Daniel - are you still having these problmes?

Hi. I didnt have that issue anymore. I removed the partership whith the device on vista side. I remove "Usb connection option" on activesync in both sides. I uninstalled "Remove NDIS Share connection" (Device Manager) on vista side and rebooted. Then on restart vista recognized again the device(Remove NDIS Shared connection) after some minutes(5-10 min) and then all worked correctly. I think the last step did the trick. But I am not free of problems. Like I told before when I resume the device and It was hibernated/suspended for a long time (several hours) the 20% of times It cant connect 3g and even I cant restart vista but keeping pressed the power button. So, by now, If my device is going to stay suspended for a long time (night) then I turn it off......
pd. When I need connect vista and snapvue I turn the phone off. I enable usb connection in both sides and use usbtools. After using the connection I undo these steps and all works correctly by now (last 3 weeks).
Ensure too that Vista hasnt setup a new Windows CE device on Device Manager. To check it open Device Manager, then "See devices by connection" and check each usb connection. If you see any Windows CE device disable it. I think both Remove NDIS Shared connection and a Windows CE Device was fighting for the same usb connection (In my case)

danielherrero said:
Hi. I didnt have that issue anymore. I removed the partership whith the device on vista side. I remove "Usb connection option" on activesync in both sides. I uninstalled "Remove NDIS Share connection" (Device Manager) on vista side and rebooted. Then on restart vista recognized again the device(Remove NDIS Shared connection) after some minutes(5-10 min) and then all worked correctly. I think the last step did the trick. But I am not free of problems. Like I told before when I resume the device and It was hibernated/suspended for a long time (several hours) the 20% of times It cant connect 3g and even I cant restart vista but keeping pressed the power button. So, by now, If my device is going to stay suspended for a long time (night) then I turn it off......
pd. When I need connect vista and snapvue I turn the phone off. I enable usb connection in both sides and use usbtools. After using the connection I undo these steps and all works correctly by now (last 3 weeks).
Ensure too that Vista hasnt setup a new Windows CE device on Device Manager. To check it open Device Manager, then "See devices by connection" and check each usb connection. If you see any Windows CE device disable it. I think both Remove NDIS Shared connection and a Windows CE Device was fighting for the same usb connection (In my case)
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OK, the only bit I hadnt tried was the uninstall of the NDIS in device manager. I'll give it a go and see what happens. Thanks again for this reply!

Thanks Daniel for your detailed description on this problem, which I also have. Interesting thing is that for me it only occurs when I am on the move with my Shift. No problems when my Shift remains on my desk (like others described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381220&page=2 )
On your described solution: I removed the Vista/Snapvue partnership and the usb connection on both sides. But I am not able to do the next step: "Remove NDIS Share connection" in device manager, because it's not there (see attached screenshot). Does this mean it was never there, so I do not have to uninstall it? Or is there a different way to find it?

Hi.
Reset Vista to ensure It boots correctly. Then wait to be 3g connected. Once you are connected the device "Remote NDIS shared connection" should be there under network cards. Then uninstall it and reset again. Once booted you have to wait several minutes until vista detects it again and installs drivers.....
pd. And try to contact HTC. Maybe (only maybe) if HTC is reported with same problem from many people they releases a fix.....

Hi there,
That did not help at all!
Waste of time.
But thanks for the hint.
What DID help for me was closing WMDC through taskmanager.
When you just exit WMDC, task manager still shows that it is running there in the background and apperantly scanning your ports for mobile devices ore something.
I stopped it from running and have a stable connection now.
(replying from train right now)
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

Pfeffa-rah said:
Hi there,
That did not help at all!
Waste of time.
But thanks for the hint.
What DID help for me was closing WMDC through taskmanager.
When you just exit WMDC, task manager still shows that it is running there in the background and apperantly scanning your ports for mobile devices ore something.
I stopped it from running and have a stable connection now.
(replying from train right now)
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
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Hi
Do you have to do this each time you start vista?
Cheers

firedup said:
Hi
Do you have to do this each time you start vista?
Cheers
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I think you only have to do it after you used WMDC. On my shift it doesnot start at boot (not anymore...) If I want to sync shift or my kaiser, I need to startup WMDC manualy.
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah

My experiences so far.
Is it possible that it is the energy plan that is responsible for the loss of connection. I installed SP1, no problems it seemed. Today I wanted to use the 3G connection with the battery (balanced energy plan). And then it started to disconnect and to connect in small intervals. I did the routine Daniel described: uninstalled NDIS driver. Reinstalled it but connectivity problems remained.
Is it something to do with the battery powered system?
Because, as soon as stop using the battery, plugging in the power adapter again everything seems to be okay. I am not sure about it, but I think, when I use the max power option with the battery the connection stays and fails when I use the balanced energy plan.
So can it be that something in the energy plan is responsible for the loss of the connection?
Experts, does that make any sense?
I will give it some more tries.
S.

I had the High Performance powerplan on all the time......

had it to
Hi
This is a problem when sp1 is installed and you are using 3g in vista being in balanced or power save power plan. it has nothing to do with activesync and usb ports (i have never had a connection)
i called htc yesterday, they clamed they had never heard about it before, so please as many as possible call htc and tell them then maybe just maybe they would release a fix
in rhe meantime i uninstalled sp1 and everything works

In my case the solution is quite clear.
3G works in Balanced mode and in High Performance when power is plugged in. I am not so sure if it works in “Power Save” even when on power.
3G does not work when either on “Balanced” or “Power Save” when using the battery. Battery works in “High Performance” even when all the options are set like they are in “Balanced” mode.
This I found somewhere else in the forum. It is from Daniel and I guess he says the same, more of less.
Well. I ve been doing many tests and changes and I thing the sd, suspend crashes and 3g closed connections are gone.
I use equilibrated energy plan but I hadn’t any issue when ac connected so I ve modified this plan to make equivalent the behavior when not ac connected, but not success. The problems are still there. Its incredible because the configuration for ac connected/disconnected is the same I ve modified all the parameters (usb, expressPCI, , etc)
So I ve set High performance plan and I ve modified it a little bit, only screen brightness when no ac connected and now all works correctly. I start the system (no ac connected). Then I suspend / wake, hibernate/resume the system several times being ac no connected and the problems are gone. 3g connection is very stable. No crashes from standby to hibernate state. No sd missing problem. So by now I will keep in this "High Performance" modified state
pd. So It seems that a plan is compounded by customizable parameters by the user and hidden parameters)
Now, those who have not installed SP1. Is this really no issue for you? Or have you always been on power or always used “High Performance”?
Well, even when I plug in my external battery and the green light indicates that the machine has been plugged to power, even then it only works in “high performance” and not in the two other modes.
Very strange!
S.

Problems with PAM disconnecting as soon as it connects

Ok, so I've had issues with vista and pam before, but I have a new one, that I can't find anything about on google, on here, or anywhere else so far. I have a laptop with vista 64 home premium that I can PAM with mogul's ICS using my phone or my wife's (both are on the unlimited PAM plan.) My wife's laptop runs vista 32 home premium, and both of our phones have an identical issue when trying to tether with it, meaning its not an issue with the phones. When connecting to PAM on her laptop, 7/10 time, it will go through the steps, and when the vista networking gets done with identifying, pulling an IP from the phone ICS, and checking for connectivity (which vista does by pinging a server by domain name to determine that the DNS is working in addition to the network being open) it will be up for a split second, then disconnect. Sometimes it will disconnect after Identifying, but before making the connectivity check. The rest of the time, it connects and works fine. We have tested other cables, and recently I tested it under safe mode with networking, and made my first progress.
Under Safe mode with networking, it will connect perfectly every time. The hard part now, is I do not know what program or device conflict could be causing it to disconnect immediately after completing connection. Has anyone had this issue and found any other programs or hardware to interfere?

I haven't had this proble in specific but I did have a problem with using ICS in vista to let my PS3 go online via my laptop using the mogule as my internet connection, in one instant it actually gave me the blue screen of death. I have to say that with Ubuntu and Vista the best way to use the phone as modem is to run ICS (on the phone) and hit connect (I'm speaking about the usb method) the phone will say check cable or something and then hook the cable up. This way has eliminated the quick disconnect witch i experience in Ubuntu a few times.
Hope this help

Can't connect to PC

Hello
When I connect my hd2 to the pc throught the USB cable, the message on hd2 shows up to click sync but my computer can't see the hd2.
I went to device manager but it doesn't show up.
it worked 2 day ago, I even tryed at another PC.
I can recharge the phone from my computer...

deadmau said:
Hello
When I connect my hd2 to the pc throught the USB cable, the message on hd2 shows up to click sync but my computer can't see the hd2.
I went to device manager but it doesn't show up.
it worked 2 day ago, I even tryed at another PC.
I can recharge the phone from my computer...
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Firstly, what operating system are you using on your PC?
Secondly, have you tried deleting the sync partnership on both your phone and the PC and recreating it?
Thirdly, try and connect your phone directly to the USB root hub on your PC and not via a hub.
The fact that the HD2 is identifying the physical connection suggest the problem may lie at the PC end. Recreating the sync partnership is probably all that's needed.

Hello
If you are using Vista or Win7 you need to download Microsoft Mobile Device Manager to get a successful connection. Once you download this and install all will be good.

There is an option (can´t remember where) where you can disable fast link for ActiveSync.
This fast option has created me a lot of problem.

i'm using win7, i reinstalled the mobile device.
If i disable enable faster data sync then I can sync the phone with the computer but if I enable faster data sync then the 3G band auto enables...

I have just in the last weekend somehow lost the ability to connect to any computer. I have an activesync connection with work and a connection via hsdpa to the server too, and then one via wmdc on my vista home computer.
All has been going swimmingly until the weekend when I noticed that it had stopped synching new appointments.
The computers (both) now no longer even detect the phone, although it does charge via the usb cables.
The settings are still set to sync on the phone (as opposed to say disk drive).
I've tried a bunch of things, and now annoyingly, have hard reset the phone, but no joy!! Now I have the joy of setting everything back up again... But still no synchronising with the computer.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

bcorgan said:
I have just in the last weekend somehow lost the ability to connect to any computer. I have an activesync connection with work and a connection via hsdpa to the server too, and then one via wmdc on my vista home computer.
All has been going swimmingly until the weekend when I noticed that it had stopped synching new appointments.
The computers (both) now no longer even detect the phone, although it does charge via the usb cables.
The settings are still set to sync on the phone (as opposed to say disk drive).
I've tried a bunch of things, and now annoyingly, have hard reset the phone, but no joy!! Now I have the joy of setting everything back up again... But still no synchronising with the computer.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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Did you reboot the PC? I occassionaly have problems with activesync stopping working suddenly. It doesn't really like being unplugged sometimes and get's a bit ansy about it. I've found that sometimes a soft reset of the phone does it, but sometimes I need to reboot the PC.
I hope you did try rebooting the PC before you did a hard reset. At least you wouldn't have wasted your time with having to set up your phone again!

Yes did indeed! Restarted both. But the fact that it's affecting 2 computers suggests to me that it's something wrong with the phone, and not computers themselves.
HTC haven't been any help as yet - just haven't responded to my requests.

bcorgan said:
Yes did indeed! Restarted both. But the fact that it's affecting 2 computers suggests to me that it's something wrong with the phone, and not computers themselves.
HTC haven't been any help as yet - just haven't responded to my requests.
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The fact that it still doesn't work after a hard reset leaves me at a loss!

You're telling me!
Before anyone asks also, I've tried different cables and different usb ports on both computers too.

Any other thoughts out there? I'm starting to think now it's something inside the phone - i.e. the usb port?

Fixed for me!
After having sent off the phone to HTC, it was repaired in 8 days and that was sending it to and from Sweden to the UK!
Turns out the usb connector in the phone itself was not working. 10/10 for HTC repair service!

If you use the XPP OS.
You must select ‘To enable faster data synchronization’ (i dont konw how to translated that, sorry my English.) under the ActiveSyuc.
If you use the Vista OS.
You dont select this option otherwise you cannt connect you phone to computer.

me too,..i can't connect with my pc... my computer show me found new hardware & need 2 install driver,...tell me what kind of driver need...? thank!!!

me too,..i can't connect with my pc... my computer show me found new hardware & need 2 install driver,...tell me what kind of driver need...? thank!!!
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Microsoft Corporation - Other hardware - PocketPC USB Sync
Download size: 11.1 MB
You may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.
Update type: Recommended
Microsoft Corporation Other hardware software update released in May, 2007
At present, I'm confering with Microsoft about the issue I'm having with my Vista laptop. It finds the correct driver with windows update, but the driver fails to install even with a clean boot.... they're working on it...

deadmau said:
Hello
When I connect my hd2 to the pc throught the USB cable, the message on hd2 shows up to click sync but my computer can't see the hd2.
I went to device manager but it doesn't show up.
it worked 2 day ago, I even tryed at another PC.
I can recharge the phone from my computer...
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I had the same problem and 'solved' it by trying every other USB port, and (of course) the last one did it correctly.

bcorgan said:
You're telling me!
Before anyone asks also, I've tried different cables and different usb ports on both computers too.
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To make Active Sync work
Turn off Setup\other\USB to PC\ActiveSync Enable Faster Data Synchronization
The all will be ok

SOLVED!! Joy, joy, happiness glow... . I removed AVG 9.0, restarted, reinstalled WMDC and the driver (all of which installed automatically when I plugged my HD2 in to the USB port), and reinstalled AVG 9.0 and… Voila, MAGIC! I had AVG configuered correctly to allow WMDC to make connections and pass through the antivirus, but I still had to uninstall it to get the driver to install. Sometimes antiviruses are stubborn!

hi i had the same problem try this go to settings on your phone all settings connections usb to pc and uncheck the fast sync box if that dont work theirs an option that is somewhere on your pc where you can choose the pc to search for an update driver for that device

marquez2010 said:
hi i had the same problem try this go to settings on your phone all settings connections usb to pc and uncheck the fast sync box if that dont work theirs an option that is somewhere on your pc where you can choose the pc to search for an update driver for that device
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I tried BOTH of those options prior to uninstalling AVG and no joy. Bytheway, I've switched to Microsoft Security Essentials and still have to uninstall MSE everytime I flash my HD2! UGH!

ActiveSync not working (all of a sudden)

Hi All
I searched the Forum but couldn't find a solution to this problem.
1. Came back form holiday yesterday - synced up my HD" with Outlook no problem
2. Tried to do it this morning. By the normal 'connect PC' option didn't come up and activsync icon didn'tr light up on PC
3. Rebooted HD2 and PC..no change
4. Tried to repair/reinstall activ sync, but towards the end of the repair it says 'there was a network error reading from file 'setup/msi'. Guessing that the file may be corrupt, I downloaded it again..same problem..so I can't repair or reinstall
5. There is definitely a connection of some sort as the HD2 begins to charge when connected
Bottom line is that the HD2 is not syncing - and I can't figure out why not.
Any advice appreciated...
Thanks

Do you have a Norton (Symantec) firewall installed? I’ve found that the Norton product can interfere with ActiveSync.

Active Sync not working
Good point..but no. I have AVG installed (and everything was working OK yesterday)
Spooky thing is, I have managed to uninstal, reinstal and reboot..and it still won't show that it's connected with AS even though there is a connection of some kind, cos the device is charging.
Steve

ActiveSync is just a bit crap. It'll do this occassionaly, so if you use it a lot then get used to it.
A restart of the phone, whilst the USB cable is not plugged in, usually does the trick. Only plug it in again when it's fully started.
Also, try setting the AS connection to not allow USB connections, unplugging and plugging back in, and then setting it to once again allow USB connections.
Just messing with it like that usually works for me. Like I said, it's just a bit crap.

Activ Sync
Yeah, I seem to recall I had this problem a while back - I'll faff around with the settings and see if it makes a difference
Steve

stevep said:
Good point..but no. I have AVG installed (and everything was working OK yesterday)
Spooky thing is, I have managed to uninstal, reinstal and reboot..and it still won't show that it's connected with AS even though there is a connection of some kind, cos the device is charging.
Steve
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Well if johncmolyneux's suggestions don't work then try disconnecting your phone from the PC, restarting both, disconnecting the PC from the network, disabling the firewall element of AVG (if it has one) and then connecting the phone to the PC again.
If that doesn't work I can only suggest removing ActiveSync, totally shutting down your PC, starting up, then re-installing ActiveSync.
I had a similar problem but I was able to narrow it down to Norton in the end but it's a real pain when you don't know why it won't work.
Good luck with this.

I also occasionally was not able to connect with Active Sync, but rebooting the HD2 always fixes that issue. You said that this did not helped you, so try messing with the settings on Active Sync, like johncmolyneux said, also try when plug the usb cable into the device by default it asks you what kind of connection you're establishing (Active sync, data transfer and internet sharing) - try using data transfer, if it connects, unplug and connect it again, this time use active sync.

Reinstall activsync and Try to disable faster data Synchonization on HD2

Active Sync not working (solved)
That'll teach me to not check the obvious! - It turned out that the cable had developed a fault. I changed the cable and it's now OK.
Case closed.
Steve

[Q] HD2 Won't connect to PC, Disconnects wifi

Something very strange...
I just bought a T-Mobile HD2, and I just plugged it in to my desktop to begin modding... Strange thing is, my desktop is having a hell of a time keeping up with the phone. I can never get a USB connection on it. I ended up having to do all the hacking on my Macbook Pro running Windows 7 in Bootcamp. So the issue is that when I connect it to my desktop which natively runs Windows 7, the phone charges, but Zune and the Mobile Device Center both report that the phone is not connected. And to make things even more aggravating, every time I connect the phone, my wifi connection on the desktop drops off. As soon as I disconnect the phone, wifi eventually comes back with some prompting. What am I doing wrong??

sounds like as screwed up machine to be honest

could be, but I've seen others with this same problem as well. If it is my machine, maybe someone knows what I can do to fix it?