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Is there anything which will let me return to windows mobile after I install android on my HTD HD2?
Basically I want a dual booting option so I can still use Windows Mobile - as I have just realised, just before install Android, that it is acutally quite useful. ???
Take out your SD card. Boot up. And place your card back in. Toodles.
Android cannot be "installed" yet. When you have android on your sdcard it will still boot windows first, then it gives you the option to boot android.
Some windows mobile roms ie. Chuckyrom, have a built in android loader, so that every time you boot you can choose which os to use.
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Thanks for the help - That must have sounded like a noob question - I am new to the whole putting android on the HD2 thing.
Thanks.
OK, i'm hearing all the time about different ROM's being put on phones like cyanogenmod and many others. even some people dual booting. is it possible to dual boot with ubuntu and an android ROM? if you're wondering i have the HP touchsmart (has a touchscreen) would it be possible to boot into android. i've done alot of research but can't find anyone that has done it or has a guide. would it be possible to load it into my grub or are the files entirely different. i've seen people put ubuntu on phones why not android on my laptop. (oh and not the SDK...its too slow to be seriously used and then i'm still using it as more of a virtual machine than an OS)
google search Chromium OS , Beta build , lolz , looks like android
Chromium OS is not android in the slightest!
If you want to play with Android on your PC, there are two ways you can run it:
A) Install the emulator - this is pretty slow, but gives you a phone-in-a-box you can play with
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/12/15/android-emulator/
B) Use Android x86 - a port of Android that runs on PCs
http://www.android-x86.org/
(Grab the generic iso from here: http://android-x86.moonman.dk/old/)
Now either burn that to a cd, and boot from that, create a bootable usb stick with http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ or install it in a VM like VirtualBox
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is there any way to load ubuntu 3 for hd2 from nand android?
+1 yes it is possibly ?
1. i copied the files on my sd-card.
2. renamed initrd.cpio.gz to initrd.gz
3. renamed zImage_htcleo_usbhost_2.6.32.9-38182-g6ad7e77 to zImage
in magdlr:
1.i go to 9.services then 1.boot setting then 2.always menu
2-i go to 9.services then 1.bootsetting then 3.ad sd dir and select linux folder
3.shut down
after power on the magdlr menu appear, and if i select boot ad nand, android will boot compeletly, and if i select boot ad sd haret will execute, but after complete loading and when mouse pointer appear, phone will restart,whats the problem?
alikhalesi said:
and if i select boot ad sd haret will execute
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Wrong!
haret is a windows mobile executable and it has nothing to do with magldr.
TheATHEiST said:
Wrong!
haret is a windows mobile executable and it has nothing to do with magldr.
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yes,but haret executed,and ubuntu loaded.when mouse pointer and keyboard appear, phone restarted.
alikhalesi said:
yes,but haret executed,and ubuntu loaded.when mouse pointer and keyboard appear, phone restarted.
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linux and android don't in the same way.
ask the cook of your android rom to enable kexec on the kernel in his next release, then you should be able to boot ubuntu from within android.
a bit like haret on windows.
plopper
plopper said:
linux and android don't in the same way.
ask the cook of your android rom to enable kexec on the kernel in his next release, then you should be able to boot ubuntu from within android.
a bit like haret on windows.
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is there any android build that kernels support kexec now?
and if i download it, problem will be solved?
alikhalesi said:
is there any android build that kernels support kexec now?
and if i download it, problem will be solved?
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not that i know off, so it's up to some rom chef to enable it so we can test it.
plop
Interesting thanks.
Well is it now possible to boot ubuntu from android?
And is there a tutorial? If not, may anyone post something about that.
I'm using the Typhoon Android and it would be a funny gimick to boot Ubuntu
Ehm i read somewhere that someone booted Win98 oder 95 on the HD2 is there a Video up or a hp?
only if someone ports a similar Haret app on Android but im pretty sure theres other ways via terminal not sure
I am also very interested in a haret for Android! This would be great.
I use NO windows anymore (on any device for that matter) and would like too keep it that way
Super cool job, looks great in the youtubes...
it would be very nice to know if there's a way. thank you all
i would guess there's 2 ways for this to work. 1: from inside android after it's already loaded (like haret) and 2. from the bootloader when you first start your phone up.
i know with a PC, you can have any OS's files on a hard drive, or partition or whatever. but if your bios doesn't know it's there, it wont just go auto looking for it. it will tell you 'operating system not found' or something along those lines. now when you install an OS on a PC it updates that boot menu, or in linux the grub menu which is pretty much the same thing. there's also a program handy in windows called 'easyBCD' and linux has the 'startupmanager' respectively. so it's already been taken care of in those OS's and i gotta think it can't be that hard to get one going for mobile OS's as well.
i would think, it shouldn't be that hard to direct the bootloader at the startup of the phone, to wherever your directory for your phone's OS is located (and similarly for a secondary OS). just a matter of modifying that line so it reads into the correct directory. of course i can't program but it sounds right
非常有趣的感谢~
First off not to sound rude to anyone but haret builds can boot within magldr but a proper roof.img is needed for magldr and not windows. i dual boot sd builds and nand all the time when i use magldr but im using cLK cause i work at night and dont want to risk the battery dying on me. Also have you try the hd2 toolkit not the one for flashing clk or magldr but the that loads hbl to boot up ubuntu here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095726 just for the new ones that dont know.
It's very possible, we just need a dev who's motivated enough to create a app, or script that will execute the correct terminal codes.
Ubuntu with Android
On Ubuntu website, they claim to have Ubuntu working (in near future) on smartphomes supporting ARM. From what I gather, they install Ubuntu but only with Android system. Is anyone working on this? I use windows to sync in with all contacts and calendars, but want to do this with Ubuntu.
Hey guys, I've been using Windows Vista 32 bit 86x to do some of my theming work and APK(s) editing and I do not like how Windows is handling all of this. I've got way too much junk spread all over (tools, folders, editing programs, etc) to keep up with all this. I've been reading on Ubuntu and it is the programmer's choice in using to develop apps, themes, and editing APK(s).
I took the tour on Ubuntu and liked a lot of what I saw and thought it was perfect for app development and other stuff. No need to download so many stuff and end up losing track of most of your tools and such.
So, what I did was I did a factory image restore on my Dell Inspiron 1525 with Windows Vista 32 bit 86x and got rid of everything and saved important stuff on my external hard drive. Now I'm debating the use of Ubuntu as the sole system operation or installing along-side of Windows.
What would be necessary for me to do? I hate how Windows handles some of my work and don't see how it will benefit me in continuing my android app development and getting started.
I've also ordered a couple books on Android App Development and Java coding on Android platform. I'm in the process of trying to figure out what would be wise for me to do with Ubuntu here.
Any help is much appreciated. I will be using the books to help me step by step in developing app(s). But I'll take any tips that anyone is willing to give insight on!
just for app development i dont think a linux distro is needed.
if you are going into compiling kernels / compiling android sources you might need at least a VM with linux running afaik(but a full installation of a linux distro would be better i guess).
Personally, I wouldn't ever be without a windows machine. Ubuntu can do almost everything you'll ever need but you just never know when you might need to use a windows program that is not available for linux. So if your laptop is your only computer, I would dual boot for sure. If you have another windows machine, then I guess it doesn't really matter. But umm.. what exactly is your question anyway?
I'm just trying to get a better clarification for using Ubuntu and if it would be more wise to install it along-side Windows Vista (dual boot) or install it as the sole operating system instead of Windows Vista.
I do like Windows Vista for other things but it's been annoying trying to get it to work properly because some tools work better on Linux (Ubuntu).
Also, I had Java SDK, JDK, and latest version of Java on Windows Vista but from other threads or posts I've heard that the Java SDK Manager, along with Eclipse, work a lot better on Ubuntu. But of course there are other mixed reviews from others saying it works better on Windows Vista or Windows 7 (whichever they are using).
I always do research before I go doing something that has the potential of creating regrets (due to errors or not knowing much about this or that) or gets too confusing and become lost in reverting back to the way it was before I did something.
I do have a Windows XP Home Edition desktop (the latest one before Vista came out). Problem is it got the blue screen of death (doing memory dump) and I never really got it to recover from that. I wonder if the desktop Ubuntu disc can write over all that and make it work again, but only as a Ubuntu operating system?
I've always dual booted. Mostly because the games I play on my laptop are windows games. Keep this in mind, when you partition the drives. Linux can read NTFS/FAT, but windows has issues with ext. So don't worry about making a HUGE partition as ext for ubuntu. (I usually make a folder in windows on my c drive to send files back and forth). If you're using Ubuntu, you might want to look into using WUBI, makes installation a breeze.
it is no big deal at all.
it is better to have ubuntu run on the hardware not in VM.
you can have a dual boot
and install Eclipse and the plug-ins which will provide you will tools for android development.
So i know the Intel atom in this thing supports Windows 10. I just can't figure out how to get the Windows 10 install disk to boot. Custom boot loader?
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So i know the Intel atom in this thing supports Windows 10. I just can't figure out how to get the Windows 10 install disk to boot. Custom boot loader?
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Custom rom that microsoft has provided.... Win 10 is free for all device's.... Tho you may need a custom recovery in some cases.... Theres also a program that microsoft has that will convert it as long as you have root and able to connect it through usb...
ErocKxMoBz said:
Custom rom that microsoft has provided.... Win 10 is free for all device's.... Tho you may need a custom recovery in some cases.... Theres also a program that microsoft has that will convert it as long as you have root and able to connect it through usb...
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This is... Just wrong. Microsoft provides no special tool to convert android devices into windows 10. They have released Windows 10 Mobile ROMs for 2 devices and they aren't distributed in a way that they can be ported.
Nt true i have a few tablets with intel inside that ran on android i just ran the roms with a bootloader and yea as for the program its not by microsoft exacly but a company they own.. And another thing look at china they have tens of thousands of differnt devices that run both virtualy. Using a custom bootloader
ErocKxMoBz said:
Nt true i have a few tablets with intel inside that ran on android i just ran the roms with a bootloader and yea as for the program its not by microsoft exacly but a company they own.. And another thing look at china they have tens of thousands of differnt devices that run both virtualy. Using a custom bootloader
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Got any links or how to?
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Got any links or how to?
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No. And there won't be.
ErocKxMoBz said:
Nt true i have a few tablets with intel inside that ran on android i just ran the roms with a bootloader and yea as for the program its not by microsoft exacly but a company they own.. And another thing look at china they have tens of thousands of differnt devices that run both virtualy. Using a custom bootloader
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Ok, those Intel tablets you refer to probably use a legacy bios booting system, which would support both Android in the x86 variant, and Windows x86. And MAYBE they support a custom bootloader, but I doubt it (you could provide some links as proof). If you refer to the Windows 10 Mobile ROM released for the Chinese phone a while back. That is literally the one exception, but it isn't Windows 10. Its Windows 10 Mobile, which isn't nearly as full featured, and provides no admin level access. And before someone mentions it, NO this cannot be ported to other devices, Android is much easier to port due to the fact that we know how things function due to the Open Source nature of Android, but Windows is not, and likely never will be Open Source.
Now, onto the "custom bootloader" you refer to. Firstly, no Nexus device EVER has been able to run a custom bootloader (lest I mention the Nexus One with S-OFF). All Nexus devices EVER (yes, even after unlocking the bootloader) enforce aboot (high level bootloader) signature verification, they just don't enforce kernel/recovery partition signature checks when the bootloader is unlocked. This means that flashing an unsigned bootloader (no, you can't sign a bootloader yourself, it would have to be released by Google, which they have NEVER done).
You also mentioned running it virtually? Did you mean like Hardware virtualization like VirtualBox and VMware? Good luck finding a functional x86 Virtual Machine manager for Android that doesn't run horribly.
And without links, or any proof, I have never heard of Microsoft (or any subsidiary) releasing a tool to convert Android phones into Windows phones. Because, it just isn't that simple. You don't just install a program and boom, its Windows 10. It requires a complete re-flash of the device, and different bootloader (which I told you is impossible on this device above), it would also require drivers that are more than likely closed source, or don't exist for the Windows platform.
Don't just go saying things you /think/ are possible. Just cause a CPU architecture matches the requirement of the OS doesn't mean that that. OS will ever run. Much more is required.