Quick question, when I do a nand backup on the Fascinate, does that backup the kernel as well?
I know on the eris, if I was to flash a new rom and kernel, and didn't like that rom, all I had to do was wipe the data and cache, and restore the backup and I would be done, is that the same on the fascinate?
No, all it backs up is the rom and your data.
On a related note, is it possible to do a backup of the entire phone (ROM, kernel, data) so that it can be re-flashed / recovered via Odin?
I had an issue last night where I had to restore an old backup with CWM / ROM Manager, because of a buggy and unstable kernel that I had installed. And the phone was completely unstable / unusable after the restore from backup. I had to flash back to complete stock DL09 via Odin, and was wondering whether there was a way for me to create my own Odin image if this happens again.
kent1146 said:
On a related note, is it possible to do a backup of the entire phone (ROM, kernel, data) so that it can be re-flashed / recovered via Odin?
I had an issue last night where I had to restore an old backup with CWM / ROM Manager, because of a buggy and unstable kernel that I had installed. And the phone was completely unstable / unusable after the restore from backup. I had to flash back to complete stock DL09 via Odin, and was wondering whether there was a way for me to create my own Odin image if this happens again.
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Yes, see here
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Now, I haven't cared too much about Nandroid backups since nothing is too important for me to save, and I'm running a different ROM almost every day... But what do Nandroid backups backup ? Just the ROM? ROM and data + Kernel ? And If I do a full wipe and I have a Nandroid backup, do I have to Flash the ROM first, then flash the Nandroid over it? Or can I just full wipe and flash the nandroid?
Nandroid isn't something I use a lot (or at all), so this is kinda odd to me.
A nandroid backup is essentially an image of your entire phone. The entire OS, phonebook, messages, settings...everything.
Awesome, so I can just flash the nandroid right after a full wipe, correct?
Yep, absolutely. Just don't forget that only CWM 3.0.0.6 can flash and restore anything. The other versions are limited to Froyo or Gingerbread, not both.
Yeah I know, I flashed 3.0.0.6 the second i saw it did both ROMs, I haven't had a problem since ^_^ But thanks !
+2 to your Thanks Meter
Glad you got it worked out.
Hi,
Is there a way to do a complete backup of the current ROM? I know I can always reflash the stock firmware but I'd like to keep all the installed apps/customizations.
Thanks!
C.
If you flashed CWM recovery, doing a nandroid backup (boot into recovery, backup and restore->backup) will back up your entire system, including ROM, your installed apps, accounts, settings, the whole kit and caboodle. If you're just worried about your own apps, you can use an app like Titanium Backup to back up all your apps and their data and restore them after a wipe.
Just to be clear, flashing stock ROM through odin won't actually wipe any of your apps or data, but it's usually a good idea to do so manually when changing firmware versions, as you may run into problems, usually apps force closing, if you don't.
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teiglin said:
If you flashed CWM recovery, doing a nandroid backup (boot into recovery, backup and restore->backup) will back up your entire system, including ROM, your installed apps, accounts, settings, the whole kit and caboodle. If you're just worried about your own apps, you can use an app like Titanium Backup to back up all your apps and their data and restore them after a wipe.
Just to be clear, flashing stock ROM through odin won't actually wipe any of your apps or data, but it's usually a good idea to do so manually when changing firmware versions, as you may run into problems, usually apps force closing, if you don't.
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Thanks for the info, and sorry for the late reply...
I would be interested in doing a full ROM backup. Are there any known issues in flashing CWM? so far I have only rooted the stock rom.
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C.
Hello,
My device is a NEXUS 7 3G (GSM / HSPA +) and am using Twrp recovery and have a question about backup menu.
Are the default options checked enough (Boot, System and Data)? Do I click check the radio option? When it is necessary the radio option?
I Know cache and recovery are not necessary but the question is the radio.
Thanks and sorry for my writing in English, very poor ... sorry
It would be rather unusual for a radio to be flashed by anything other than a factory ROM; so the need to be restoring it is somewhat unusual.
As with the bootloader, it is probably best to minimize the amount of flashing you do of the radio partition.
TWRP also lets you choose which partitions are restored using the same toggles, so even if it were present in a backup, I don't think TWRP forces you to restore it.
I have a grouper (not tilapia) N7, and (besides more typical ROM backups) I keep a pure-stock, completely unconfigured ROM TWRP backup including the stock recovery standing by (plus a copy stored safely off the device).
I think having pure stock backups is something everybody should do. Not only for factory return scenarios, but also for applying OTAs (make custom ROM backup, revert to pure stock, apply OTA, capture yet another pure-stock backup, restore back to custom ROM). This gets you:
- return to stock any time
- for RMA / relock scenarios
- no problem OTA installs
- reference stock ROMs from every release (for restoring individual stock files)
good luck.
bftb0 said:
It would be rather unusual for a radio to be flashed by anything other than a factory ROM; so the need to be restoring it is somewhat unusual.
As with the bootloader, it is probably best to minimize the amount of flashing you do of the radio partition.
TWRP also lets you choose which partitions are restored using the same toggles, so even if it were present in a backup, I don't think TWRP forces you to restore it.
I have a grouper (not tilapia) N7, and (besides more typical ROM backups) I keep a pure-stock, completely unconfigured ROM TWRP backup including the stock recovery standing by (plus a copy stored safely off the device).
I think having pure stock backups is something everybody should do. Not only for factory return scenarios, but also for applying OTAs (make custom ROM backup, revert to pure stock, apply OTA, capture yet another pure-stock backup, restore back to custom ROM). This gets you:
- return to stock any time
- for RMA / relock scenarios
- no problem OTA installs
- reference stock ROMs from every release (for restoring individual stock files)
good luck.
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Thank you very much for the reply. Now I have the bootloader open and I'm leaving the tablet as I like and I intend to make a backup before root.
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I'm having a little trouble understanding nandroid vs. other forms of backup and would appreciate some clarification. I'm running CM nightly on my Fido (Canada) G4. I took a nandroid as well as titanium backup of the factory stock image before I flashed CM.
A poster in the last thread I made suggested if I wanted to restore to stock, I could simply restore the nandroid, but I've also seen people say you shouldn't use nandroid to go across ROMs. My understanding is that nandroid is like having a filesystem backup, which would obviously not react well if you restored it over a new operating system (e.g. two different versions of windows). Or is nandroid more like say Acronis, which takes an entire disk image and overwrites everything?
Other misc questions:
- If I do restore via nandroid, do I need to wipe all data / cache / system data before or after the restore?
- I assume I can use titanium to restore SMS + all non-system apps across ROMs, which would save a lot of time.
- If I'm going from one CM nightly to another, would titanium work for system apps (e.g. all my settings, or contacts, etc)
- If I want to flash a new CM nightly, do I need to follow the entire wipe procedure just as if it were going from one ROM to a completely different one?
Thanks!
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
xBeerdroiDx said:
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
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yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
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re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
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yes, system/user data will remain. understand, however, that if you perform one of these dirty flashes and you have a problem with the functionality of the ROM, you'll need to do a full wipe and flash to see if this clears the issue before you report the problem in the development thread.
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yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
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Your right on both titanium questions.. However its not recommended to restore system apps you backed up on a aokp/aosp ROM to a touchwiz ROM and the other way around... Other than that like I said your fine
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I have a n900w8 running cm11. I need to go back to stock.
I have a nandroid of my stock rom and was wondering if i can go back using my backup or if i need to use odin to downgrade?
Just want to make sure there are no issues with bootloaders etc if i restore my backup.
Thanks
Well as technically Nandroid backups are just a clone of your previous OS you should be able to flash it just fine, BUT you should not. Cause in doing that you will face several problems, multiple apps force closing would be one of them. So yes, just wipe the phone first, I mean a complete wipe, then flash a stock ROM of your choice via Odin, root, then restore apps with their data manually using Titanium. I mean the option in Titanium which says install the missing apks only, just hit on that, not the whole system wide restore, cause that will create problem too.
I don't know what model is that though, I have a N9005, so what I said might not even be applicable for your model.
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I have a n900w8 running cm11. I need to go back to stock.
I have a nandroid of my stock rom and was wondering if i can go back using my backup or if i need to use odin to downgrade?
Just want to make sure there are no issues with bootloaders etc if i restore my backup.
Thanks
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Better to flash the latest stock firmware for your device via Odin.
and restore app(s) later.