What will we have to do. Will we get the upgrade automatically or will we have to install the new version once it's hacked? Thanks.
Maybe we all have to wait for the devs to import the update in their build.. I think we can not update our device since is not activated and an Official WP7 device!
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Maybe we all have to wait for the devs to import the update in their build.. I think we can not update our device since is not activated and an Official WP7 device!
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1.) You can activate your phone by simply get a key from microsoft
2.) And the HD2 thinks with a little trick, that it is a real HD7
Manual: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10936215#post10936215
And we will recieve updates, all updates. If they don't change something with the bootloader, we will have no problems. But if they do, it could be possible that we're not able to start the phone anymore without flashing WP7 without updates again, so at first be aware of installing updates.
Thanks for clarify it mate!
MS have no real reason to mess around with the bootloader and I even think that they can't at all, because Samsung, LG, HTC and Dell all use their own proprietery bootloaders. It's not like changing one bootloader but at least 4. And nobody would do it just in order to prevent some HD2's from updating. It would contradict totally to the relaxed way MS are giving away activation codes.
The WP7 rom for hd2 had to be modified to work on the HD2... I don't think the MS updates will work on it. We'll have to wait and see what happens when MS does the update. I think we'll have to wait for the devs to release updated roms.
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i am wanting some help to do with my htc hd2 running windows phone 7 with the dft rom and mgldr and when i have my phone connected to my computer it brings up there is an update available but it always times out and i have tried rectifying the problem by downloading the windows phone support tool BUT this is where the problem is, i cant use this tool because the buttons on the phone have changed when the dft rom and mgldr have been installed and now i cant get my phone onto the connect to pc image screen for windows which is a black screen with the phone, cable and a laptop in it, the updates through zune will then be accepted it fails on the last step every time please help!!!! many thanks jamie.
Yes there is a update from Microsoft available for WP7 called NoDo. But a working adaptation of it for the HD2 is not available yet. It was a video released a while back showing NoDo copy and Paste feature working on the HD2 by the DFT. But it kind of seem to be holding out for the Mangoo update or something because a ROM that can either receive the update or has the update included in it has yet to surface that I know of.
So just to make sure you understand, you can not install the update no matter what you do right now. Unless you would like to jump in and steal the spot light for a minute and be the one that officially released said ROM. That is if you are so minded to do it, I personally would love to but I do not have the knowledge to do so yet.
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Yes there is a update from Microsoft available for WP7 called NoDo. But a working adaptation of it for the HD2 is not available yet. It was a video released a while back showing NoDo copy and Paste feature working on the HD2 by the DFT. But it kind of seem to be holding out for the Mangoo update or something because a ROM that can either receive the update or has the update included in it has yet to surface that I know of.
So just to make sure you understand, you can not install the update no matter what you do right now. Unless you would like to jump in and steal the spot light for a minute and be the one that officially released said ROM. That is if you are so minded to do it, I personally would love to but I do not have the knowledge to do so yet.
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Many thanks for your help and am i right in saying that the mango update should be around about the 25th may 2011? i read 4 to 5 pages last night trying to find info on these matters hence the time of post . HD2 PROUD OWNER.
New Bada 2.0 roms and a Mango release this week.
This is what they said 3 hours ago. Maybe it is i8700xxki1..what do you think about it?
If so, really thanks to Samfirmware
Can you post a link or a screenshot to where you found this info? I'm watching samfirmware posts on twitter and saw nothing about a new windows phone firmware release. Thanks
Its on facebook
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
After the bashing session topic below, it would say much about their character if they do.
Can't wait for no more. Very eager. Hope hidden wifi issue will be solved in the next generation....
It might be official version which will be provided by Samsung... via Zune.
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It might be official version which will be provided by Samsung... via Zune.
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yeah, rumours are that it will be out oh thursday
According to me it is KI1 and it has new radio/firm/boot as kh2 with the "only" difference it has official Mango and no brand. Really hope so. Thanks again SamFirmware
EDIT : i can see no more the post on facebook. Can you? I think they cleaned it
Edit 2: Official answer by SamFirmware "Moderator post to fast something. Communication problem. That why we removed. Sorry." No ROMs coming this week. Thread can be closed.
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According to me it is KI1 and it has new radio/firm/boot as kh2 with the "only" difference it has official Mango and no brand. Really hope so. Thanks again SamFirmware
EDIT : i can see no more the post on facebook. Can you? I think they cleaned it
Edit 2: Official answer by SamFirmware "Moderator post to fast something. Communication problem. That why we removed. Sorry." No ROMs coming this week. Thread can be closed.
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Communication problem? Maybe some English lessons would help them cause I can't make any sense of what they said there.
so, we will see!
Their English is not one of the best, but please try to understand. English is difficult for everyone who comes from all the countries except for uk/us/australia etc...i understood everything they said so we don't need to insult them.
Anyway the final mango ROM is coming in 2 days via zune. Why not just wait for it?
That is not a rom. First of all a rom contains new firmware/radio and bootloader, the "thing" that should come in 2 days is an "update", Mango 7720.68. Secondly Samsung said one month ago that before Mango update they would have released a firmware update to let us receive Mango. Before that we won't be able to get Mango, so I think we will have to wait for long time yet..
just think a second, all the people that don't know this forum and are not able to flash the phone how do they could update, the official mango release for everyone and every brand of cell phone will come through Zune
brands like samsung...htc...they have the rtm and customize it for their phones then they send it back to ms and will be released through Zune
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That is not a rom. First of all a rom contains new firmware/radio and bootloader, the "thing" that should come in 2 days is an "update", Mango 7720.68. Secondly Samsung said one month ago that before Mango update they would have released a firmware update to let us receive Mango. Before that we won't be able to get Mango, so I think we will have to wait for long time yet..
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Radio and bootloader ARE updated through imageupdate, check package MODEM - it contains both radio and bootloader.
One would assume that they would make one big update containing all of this stuff - Omnia 7 can receive Mango update, we already tried it with the XXKH2 ROM's .pks that was with it. Update through beta to RTM and deploy that PKS to install the OEM part of the upgrade. Worked fine.
So you are saying that omnia 7 will have Mango even without drivers update right? I have KC1 now i hope this is enough to get Mango
it's good to see someone from samfirmware here.
I would like to ask one question regarding samfirmware website.
Why is there no direct way to find windows phone roms?
When you go to toolbox section, and firmwares, there you can only choose bada, symbian, windows mobile, but no windows phone.
Where do you guys put all the latest wp7 roms?
Windows Mobile is the same section als Windows phone 7
15.09. and no mango ?
It drives crazy.... Where would our mango be??????
Kinda lost, still don't fully understand WP7. I bought the phone a few weeks ago with a Mango Beta installed on it. Someone brought it to my attention that when the legit Mango comes out that I won't be able to update to it. How can I get my phone to where I can update it when the official Mango release comes out? I have searched this but I'm not sure if reading on a different phone forum makes a difference. And people answer this question in different ways so it's a little confusing. Thanks guys!
First thing to do is check which version of the software you have on your phone, settings - about - more info.
If you have an OS version number greater than 7.0.7392 but less than 7720 you have a beta build of the OS and you wont be able to directly update the OS to Mango. This is because when the beta version of the OS was loaded it took a backup of your phone for you to return to when the official update was released. The backup is keyed to you device ID and means that a backup from someone else's phone wont work on yours.
However there are methods that will allow you to update to the RTM version of the OS at this link HERE or HERE but be warned that the update that is coming out in the next couple of weeks will have the extra drivers and tweaks that are specific to the DVP from Dell.
If you don't feel confident with that, you could try getting the person you bought it from to restore it back to the old version so that you can receive your update, or phoning dells support (Ouch!)
Looks like there may be an official way to install the final Mango without rolling back to NoDo first:
http://www.wp7connect.com/2011/09/2...date-no-rollback-needed-for-mango-beta-users/
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Looks like there may be an official way to install the final Mango without rolling back to NoDo first:
http://www.wp7connect.com/2011/09/2...date-no-rollback-needed-for-mango-beta-users/
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yep, another piece on it
http://www.wpcentral.com/more-mango-friends-and-family-pre-cleanup?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter
Bummer... wish I had known about this "Friends n Family" update last week before I restored Nodo. (Stupid rumors!!!) It's like a totally different phone. Here's hoping the update is coming soon.
That's awesome! That looked like such a pain that I was probably going to stay on the beta lol.
Awesome, I'll make a thread with precise steps so people may see it and finally get our DVP's fixed and updated!
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Awesome, I'll make a thread with precise steps so people may see it and finally get our DVP's fixed and updated!
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And spam your own site as you do? Ugh.
Hey i was wondernig since I have a custom ROM on my htc trophy and the official tango update is coming out tomorrow (aug. 1). How am i able to get that Rom? Can i just plug my phone in and click update or will that brick it?
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Hey i was wondernig since I have a custom ROM on my htc trophy and the official tango update is coming out tomorrow (aug. 1). How am i able to get that Rom? Can i just plug my phone in and click update or will that brick it?
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Keep checking Footballs rom thread, I'm sure if there is an official rom, that they will have it. He normally post the roms a few weeks before Verizon allows updating to Zune.
If you expect Verzion to release it's Trophy Tango update the same day as everyone else, don't. I honestly think HTC is the hold up, since they treat the CDMA Trophy on Verizon differently, but we probably won't see the official update for a few months.
As for updating your custom rom, don't. If the updates to apply, you'll almost guaranteed to loose tethering in the process (since tethering isn't supported in the official WIRELESS drivers that would be included in an update). Wait for new custom rom's instead.
Felt I had to amend my previous post in this thread. The Tango update actually includes tethering officially now. Football hasn't had any luck finding an official Tango rom yet though. And we did get Tango the same day as everyone else... so Verizon must really be throwing some serious support behind Windows Phone now.. I bet we'll see a Nokia WP7 or even WP8 on Verizon sometime soon!
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Felt I had to amend my previous post in this thread. The Tango update actually includes tethering officially now. Football hasn't had any luck finding an official Tango rom yet though. And we did get Tango the same day as everyone else... so Verizon must really be throwing some serious support behind Windows Phone now.. I bet we'll see a Nokia WP7 or even WP8 on Verizon sometime soon!
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I certainly hope for 8 in the next few months! But in the meantime, I'm sure a XevRev rom based off the official vzw tango rom would suffice
Well, the problem is that there isn't an official Verizon tango rom yet.
This isn't a huge problem, as I have updated my official based Mango 8107 test rom to 8773 with no hitches. After updating the sys, its a simple matter of updating the driver cabs in the rom, producing a rom that is basically going to be identical to the official Verizon Tango image you get via Zune update, but with full unlock and some of the added nokia fun from Dynamics7.
XevRev is close to being finished. I'm hoping to take the time after work tomorrow to cook up the final version and send it to a few people to test (although it shouldn't need much testing since I have my own person test phone).
XevRev will be based on Dynamics7 1.21 (for Titan) from ultrashot.
That's not even the exciting part!
Thanks to ultrashot's input, we managed to get the entire programming menu and programming function up and running with full unlock! I wish I would have had more time this week to build the finished release... you know what, I'll get the thing cooked, test it myself.. and then just release it for public testing.
Downside: We'll be stuck with the Mango v3 8017 radio until I either a) I build a custom cab that can be pushed to the phone b) manage to extract the radio and adapt it to be flashed using the rom method in my rom thread (unlikely).
XevRev will basically be the following:
Verizon OEM base (not Spark Euro like other SparkW roms that are out now)
Dynamics7 1.21 with custom nokia stuff removed (broke too much stuff) except for Nokia blue-tooth contacts transfer.
Newest xap installer from ultrashot (this is what really makes programming and stuff work!)
Yuki cert
Add Bazaar for WP7 and Reinstaller out-of-box from official market place (cause if people haven't used Reinstaller... they will now that they know it exist!)
If I got time, I'm guna replace Slacker radio with Last.FM cause Slacker sucks.... why would I do that? CAUSE I CAN DURR~
Netflix is byebye.
I'll prob release four versions of this rom:
1) Verizon OEM - English only
2) Verizon OEM - International
3) Verizon OEM removed - English only
4) Verizon OEM removed - International
I don't see a point in making a version with the Euro oem package... I always ended up removing those apps anyway.
I have found no way to install the official updates from Verzion onto this rom (OS works okay, but driver package fails). I'm guessing this is because, when SPL fails to update cause HSPL v3 stops it, the entire processes is aborted.
I'll try to get a test version of English only build out. If that goes well, I'll release the other flavors quickly after. The international version will include all the language support found in Dynamics7 1.21.
I was under the impression that we were unable to install the new tango updates while running custom roms? Being a total noob and not knowing any better I may have done just that. Or being a complete noob I could be mistaken :silly: After screwing something up messing with registry files, yes I knew better but I couldn't resist, I did a hard reset on my Verizon Trophy running DFT Freedom ROM V5 for Spark_W with the Mango v3 Radio. Downloaded a few xaps and yep still unlocked so just for fun I ran the software updates and language packs using xboxmod's WP7 Update Cab Sender which completed with no errors. Didn't fix the Internet Sharing issue on this rom but did enable Commercial Mobile Alert System which was not included in this rom; see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546287&page=2. I am fairly sure these settings appeared before updating the radio to Mango v3. Like I said being a noob I could be completely off track but is there any other way to tell if the updates took?
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I was under the impression that we were unable to install the new tango updates while running custom roms? Being a total noob and not knowing any better I may have done just that. Or being a complete noob I could be mistaken :silly: After screwing something up messing with registry files, yes I knew better but I couldn't resist, I did a hard reset on my Verizon Trophy running DFT Freedom ROM V5 for Spark_W with the Mango v3 Radio. Downloaded a few xaps and yep still unlocked so just for fun I ran the software updates and language packs using xboxmod's WP7 Update Cab Sender which completed with no errors. Didn't fix the Internet Sharing issue on this rom but did enable Commercial Mobile Alert System which was not included in this rom; see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546287&page=2. I am fairly sure these settings appeared before updating the radio to Mango v3. Like I said being a noob I could be completely off track but is there any other way to tell if the updates took?
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No, it isn't that these updates won't work, it is that they haven't been recommended for installation (quiet a difference). The reason the driver update was always avoided, was because the WIRELESS driver would be replaced with one that wouldn't enable Internet Sharing (meaning if you installed the older driver updates, your Internet Sharing would either disappear, or simply stop working). Since this new driver enables it, it might not be a bad idea to update to it, since it fixes the random MAC address issue. Also, the recommendation was to not use Zune to update, since it will push out ALL updates.
Using WP7 Update Cab Sender is good for those who know what they are doing, but up until the Spark_W Tango update, we had no official hotspot support. Now that the hotspot support is in the driver, I don't see the issue in pushing the driver update cab (which I recently posted the link to here).
Also, if your running on a network other then Verizon, you might need to change the new default Internet Sharing settings using the info found here. If you have unlimited data go here to get it working.
You've inspired me to go ahead and push the driver update to my primary phone, worst case I can restore my backup if it kills tethering (which it shouldn't).
Looks like the driver update won't take for ansar's Tango rom. I'll need to do some testing to figure out why. Maybe it's about time I did a build of XevRev and released it for our phones. With tethering official supported, so long as I make the support universal in the WIRELESS driver, we'll have fixed tethering support.
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Looks like the driver update won't take for ansar's Tango rom. I'll need to do some testing to figure out why. Maybe it's about time I did a build of XevRev and released it for our phones. With tethering official supported, so long as I make the support universal in the WIRELESS driver, we'll have fixed tethering support.
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I think an XevRev build would be highly anticipated and appreciated!!! I've been jumping through all the available custom roms for the Spark_W just to get a feel for them and trying different things out. I couldn't push ANY of the update cabs to ansars rom. I will try the driver update later with the DFT v5 and get back to you. I thank you sir for your time, your knowledge, and your hard work :good:
No luck pushing the driver update to DFT's rom either so decided to play around with the SolvZ v1 rom from DocMentalZ. Software update cabs installed no problem but still no luck with the drivers. I do like this rom especially the custom theme colors however seems to have the same problem with Internet Sharing as the DFT rom. I can't really see me using tethering it's just one of those things that if it's available I want it!!! Still, rather have the full unlock of a custom rom if I have to choose. Once again, I thank you sir :highfive:
If you pushed the OS cabs, push the updated driver for VZW Trophy as well. If the rom let you push from 8107=>8112=>8779, then you should be able to push the driver.cab after all of that (do a full backup before just in case it breaks something).
DFT v5 might work since its 8107 Mango.. but I think the leaked 8107 DFT is probably a better rom to try updating with.
Also make note of the tethering information in the post and do that if you must. To reach the programming menu, you MUST have a stock like rom installed without unlock.
I keep thinking when I do release XevRev, I'll have to have at LEAST three-five versions of it (one without full unlock but inter-op so you can use Root Tools for unlock and still have programming menu, a Full-Unlock ver 8107, and a Full-Unlock ver 8779, and a Full-Unlock with no preinstalled OEM apps).
Still no luck with OEM cabs on any custom spark_w roms. Quick question a lol off topic...Is Chevron unlock still possible if I flash back to stock?
Chevron unlock is possible, but not recommended. All fully unlocked roms have the interop unlock that chevron provides built in. I am currently working on a rom that might solve almost ALL of our problems... I'm testing the updatability right now to be sure.
All I can say it.. I figured out the source of the programming problems [it's related to XIP unlock and xap deployment] thanks to a huge help from ultrashot! Currently, I have a fully unlocked phone that can program and its updating to 8773 at this very moment (I intentionally built it on 8107 so we could install the newest HTC drivers and get the newest radio on our phones)... but it still needs a xap deployment tool.. since I had to remove all xap deployment from it to make programming work.
I'm going to try and manually deploy Bazaar to the phone in an attempt to still get xap deployment up and running from Dynamics7 manually.
I'll be testing the crap out of this and communicating further with ultrashot.. hopefully a "once and for all" solution can be found now the true problem has been identified.
8773 checked out okay with my Dynamic7's 1.21 port, now to test the new drivers with official internet sharing.
Okay, driver update failed. I'm guessing it fails because it cannot update the HSPLed bootloader.... Might need a custom driver cab that removes the SPL update and just does everything else. :/
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Chevron unlock is possible, but not recommended. All fully unlocked roms have the interop unlock that chevron provides built in. I am currently working on a rom that might solve almost ALL of our problems... I'm testing the updatability right now to be sure.
All I can say it.. I figured out the source of the programming problems [it's related to XIP unlock and xap deployment] thanks to a huge help from ultrashot! Currently, I have a fully unlocked phone that can program and its updating to 8773 at this very moment (I intentionally built it on 8107 so we could install the newest HTC drivers and get the newest radio on our phones)... but it still needs a xap deployment tool.. since I had to remove all xap deployment from it to make programming work.
I'm going to try and manually deploy Bazaar to the phone in an attempt to still get xap deployment up and running from Dynamics7 manually.
I'll be testing the crap out of this and communicating further with ultrashot.. hopefully a "once and for all" solution can be found now the true problem has been identified.
8773 checked out okay with my Dynamic7's 1.21 port, now to test the new drivers with official internet sharing.
Okay, driver update failed. I'm guessing it fails because it cannot update the HSPLed bootloader.... Might need a custom driver cab that removes the SPL update and just does everything else. :/
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Waiting patiently...haha. I'm just having fun playing with all the different roms and apps and reading the forums absorbing as much as I can. Your time and work, and don't forget your patience with us noobs, is greatly appreciated as is ultrashots, Heathcliffs, jaxbots,and well every d*** person that devotes their time and effort here. Sorry if I only threw out a few names but there are so many. Seriously, thank you and can't wait for the new XevRev!!!