A few minor issues with Desire Z - G2 and Desire Z General

First of all, this isn't a major issue, or may be due to T-Mobile or something, but my phone is 1+ minutes behind everywhere else, like train/bus times, TV, computers, etc..
It also means when I get a text message, then reply within a minute, it puts my reply before the text message...
Also, how the f**k do I stop Facebook syncing?
I have both Facebook and Facebook for HTC Sense under "Accounts & Sync" and Facebook is fine, it just syncs contacts and works
Facebook for HTC Sense however, syncs both contacts and live feed. They DON'T sync at all, no matter how long you leave them, it just shows the syncing icon. I disabled them both, but when I restart my phone they're back again
Another issue is that sometimes the internet just won't load any pages sometimes. The bar just loads like 90% then stops and won't load anything until I restart my phone (again, this could be T-Mobile)
Any suggestions? I'm using the stock ROM (before OTA) with S-OFF

What the heck? I probably won't provide any useful information, but perhaps your settings aren't set to automatically detect the time?

I don't have any real solution for you but if you have s/off and you like sense why don't you try flashing virtouos rom or do a wipe and factory reset.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Thanks for the replies
It's definitely set up to use the network time. Not sure why it sets the time of my messages to 1 minute behind, but the texts I receive have the proper time (1 minute in front of my phone time)
bahmanxda, I don't really bother with custom ROMs. I've tried a few but don't see the point in them (I use the stock ROM but removed all the bloat and other rubbish from them, plus I don't want to overclock my CPU yet)

Maybe you could remove the "Facebook for HTC Sense" account altogether from "Accounts & Sync?"

I use the Facebook app though, and I also use the Facebook contacts sync, will removing it affect either of those?

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The contacts Facebook association bug

.. is really starting to p*ss me off. I'm going to get really sick really quickly of having to re-associate all my contacts with their Facebook profiles every time the Hero decides to spontaneously delete them.
Has anyone found a workaround?
Edit: Hmmm... seems if you close all the background HTC processes like com.htc.socialnetwork.provider and com.htc.album:remote with TasKiller, it'll re-update everything when the processes start back up again.
It's still stupid!
And if you decided not to update your contact picture when you linked them, it will overwrite your specific photo anyway ! that's also very anoying if you don't want the facebook photos !
That's funny I was just logging in to report this problem. It happened to me for the first time today. It really pissed me off that for no reason all my facebook associations got deleted from contacts, rebooting the phone and killing the process didn't bring them back either. I don't even have the process com.htc.album:remote running in task killer. They need to get an improved rom out and fast, i've had this phone less than a week and i'm really starting to miss my iphone.
This happened to me today, but it was because for some reason I had been logged out of FB. Otherwise, I have not experienced this 'deletion' issue...
Strange.
Does anyone know why the phone would just log you off of facebook? Is there any good way to avoid this? I hope logging on to facebook on a computer doesn't kick you off.
I'm glad I saw this thread and that I am not the only one!
It is getting very annoying but I expect it will be fixed eventually, I just hope it doesn't take too long!
This happened to me the first time yesterday. And 2 other people in this thread had it happen yesterday. Maybe it's something at facebooks end. There could be some sort of timeout and were all getting logged out at the same time.
it is very odd.
Sat here at work, there's four of us with hero's now.
one of us gets it, the other three don't.
the two G2 devices don't, and only one of the Orange Hero's gets it.
very strange.
Okay I think that I can guess what is happening here. I have the same problem with my Facebook contacts losing their picture status and albums about every 24 hours (on stock G2). I know that when I leave my browser up overnight on my Facebook page, Facebook will log me out. I presume that it is doing the same thing with this phone and suspect that HTC did not spend long enough testing the ‘people’ application to observe this. I further guess that when the phone is logged out by Facebook it does not try to sign in again, deleting the information previously retrieved when a refresh is unsuccessful. I am not a developer and don’t have any way to back all this up but if I am correct then HTC would need to implement a workaround for this behaviour in order to fix it. Probably the easiest way to do this would be to have the application:
1. Automatically sign in again (signing out if necessary) every 12 hours or so.
2. Retain previously cached data, e.g. pictures, unless explicitly deleted even when Facebook refresh is unavailable.
This doesn’t fix the problem of the now-permanently unlinked Facebook contact (as per Don Vincenzo on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4276194#post4276194) but it would be an improvement.
I hard reset earlier which had previously fixed it, but now it only shows that I have one Facebook contact to choose from and no one else can be linked from.
It shows it as if I have only one Facebook friend.
Very strange.
Yep had the same issues.
Ultimately I found the best cure is just to wait for the two hours before it automatically updates everything.
I've only gone through my contact list once and linked all the profiles, however I have appeared to have "lost" the link many times...
So basically don't do anything, just wait.. lol they will return
Never had this issue yet but all my facebook - contact information is also sync'd with the exchange server
I was afraid that after my master reset I would have to reassociate all of my contacts but it seems that the association is stored on google contacts too, so they just all came back again
Its been 2 days now and my associations have not come back, man that's gonna suck if it resets them every couple of days. The facebook integration was one of the main selling points for me for the phone. I sync my contacts with outlook so I don't have any under my gmail name. Is it better to import all my contacts in to gmail so it retains my facebook links? If so is there a way I can sync the contacts that are already on my phone to my gmail account from my phone?
I may or may not have found a solution, or a way of preventing it. I'm using TasKiller to close all my running processes every few hours to preserve battery life etc. I noticed that when I put some of the system processes in the ignore list, (com.htc.socialnetwork.provider for example) the Facebook problem happened again. If I don't have any processes in the ignore list, and make sure to kill them once or twice a day, my contacts stay associated with Facebook.
Last time my contacts associations disappeared, I killed all running processes, took everything out the ignore list and went into the People app, and scrolled along to the facebook updates page. I hit menu, then 'update now'. This restored everything back to the way it was.
The disassociation just happened for me again - all my contacts suddenly needed reconnecting.
This is a different problem to the one I was discussing in the other thread 'It's a wee bit buggy...', where previously available contact data (profile pic, birthday, albums etc) can now not be retrieved by the Hero once a contact is linked. This functionality has not returned since it first occurred for me, and means that, irrespective of the associations holding, only about 75% of those contacts on the device that should be able to sync actually successfully sync. From what I can tell, this could possibly be an issue with Facebook privacy settings, though why it only happened a week after having the device I'm not sure.
With regard to the associations holding after a hard reset, the People app on the device stores the Facebook association data in the 'Notes' field of the contact, which is then synced to Google Contacts. If you wipe and then re-download your contacts from Google, this info comes back with it, and the People app then sees those contacts as linked. Given this, it seems even stranger that the links get broken in the first place, as it suggests that for some reason that the data in that field is not persistent...
Have the association loss occasionally but I find if you ignore it then the association comes back after a little while.
In relation to some (but not all) friends losing associations it is due to the friend changing their Facebook application settings. My girlfriend's photo disappeared a week ago, so I got her to change her fb settings and it came back. Not sure why it happened a week ago cause she changed the setting longer ago than that, but guess it is Facebook, not HTC.
Has anyone reported this to HTC? Its happening far too frequently on my gf's (pink) Hero.
So maybe it's not the same but it's definitely related:
I've now gotten to the point where I can not view my own contact details when I'm logged into facebook. That is, if I am signed in, and I try to view my contact card, I get a crash in process "android.process.acore" (this also happens when trying to update my status). If I edit my details and make sure I'm signed out of facebook, everything is fine except that all details of all linked profiles disappear...
Can anybody else confirm this?
BTW, I noticed that if you sign out using your contact card, and then sign in again (miraculously this does work!) the People app will retry to link friends to your facebook friends, so you can "force" a resync this way...
I keep getting this issue too. What i do is go to contacts, then on to the 'updates' tab, my contact card still shows my pic and me as logged in. I then press menu and update now. This resyncs all my contacts straight away. Annoying i know but at least it recognises them again after a bit.

com.htc.bg and com.htc.bgp errors.

Ever since I've rooted and have flashed new custom Roms onto my Hero. A couple things have happened. The phone works fine, runs great expect for "My facebook" account not syncing with my phone. It did when i had the stock rom on it. I've tried different roms, but I'll I get is these two errors when I try and sync my contacts. My picture shows up at the top of my phone book, but no one elses gets linked.
Then I read in some forums to try other facebook accounts. So I tried my friends and her sync right up and started to download contacts pictures.....what is the deal?
How can the phone possible know the difference between facebook accounts.
any help?
The only problem I ever had was with facebook not syncing up correctly and it only happened once. I just went into the phone settings and deleted the account and readded it.
You might want to also try going into facebook from a webpage and clicking on Account -> Application Settings
Select Authorized from the drop down and then delete anything that says Facebook for Android or HTC Sense.
You may have multiple listings or the permissions might have gotten messed up. Deleting them will force the permissions to be re-established.
spigen said:
Ever since I've rooted and have flashed new custom Roms onto my Hero. A couple things have happened. The phone works fine, runs great expect for "My facebook" account not syncing with my phone. It did when i had the stock rom on it. I've tried different roms, but I'll I get is these two errors when I try and sync my contacts. My picture shows up at the top of my phone book, but no one elses gets linked.
Then I read in some forums to try other facebook accounts. So I tried my friends and her sync right up and started to download contacts pictures.....what is the deal?
How can the phone possible know the difference between facebook accounts.
any help?
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i get the exact same errors and this is the only thing that's haunting me about 2.1 so far with these ROMs. I'm gonna try the guy above me method. hopefully this works!
centran said:
The only problem I ever had was with facebook not syncing up correctly and it only happened once. I just went into the phone settings and deleted the account and readded it.
You might want to also try going into facebook from a webpage and clicking on Account -> Application Settings
Select Authorized from the drop down and then delete anything that says Facebook for Android or HTC Sense.
You may have multiple listings or the permissions might have gotten messed up. Deleting them will force the permissions to be re-established.
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can you clarify in more detail on these steps? i went to facebook on the web and couldn't find those settings. i wish to complete this with successful results! mind being a bit more detailed? thx in advance
On the right hand side on facebook you will see ACCOUNT
Click on Account and select APPLICATION SETTINGS
Then on the application settings page there will be a drop down box with the title Show: select AUTHORIZED
Then you will have a page with your authorized applications. They are organized by category so you might have to click on the category to expand that section.
In the APPLICATIONS ON FACEBOOK category there will be FACEBOOK FOR ANDROID.
You might have several listings for Facebook for Android. On the far right of the row it is on there is an X.
Click on the x and click REMOVE on the popup.
Do this for every listing of Facebook For Android
Next go to the category DESKTOP APPLICATION.
You will see an entry or entries for HTC SENSE
On the far right of the row HTC Sense is on will be an X
Click on the X and select REMOVE on the popup.
Do this for every listing of HTC Sense
Then go into your phone and re-setup the accounts.
I had this error. My problem was that I had too many friends and caused it to crash while loading. I had 3,000+. I think it started to act up around 2,000
Also, if you have trouble with anything listed so far try this.
Run Logcat and sync manually in Accounts and Sync.
Watch logcat for com.htc.bg died.
If you are using a rom with the internal task killing mod (autokiller and dconfig also) set the task killer back to stock and then sync.
I've noticed this in the past that the taskkiller when set above normal will kill com.htc.bg while you're syncing. AFAIK, there is no way to change the process' "importance" or make the taskkiller ignore this prosses, but this is a verified work-around.
MrDanger said:
I had this error. My problem was that I had too many friends and caused it to crash while loading. I had 3,000+. I think it started to act up around 2,000
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i think this was my problem as well. on other forums others were saying they had 300 friends only and their contacts synced up nicely. me on the other hand have 2000+ friends and about five min in that's when that damn com.htc.bg comes up and i have to force close it.
well I went into my facebook account settings, found what you where talking about. There was multiplies of the htc sense and other. So i removed my account from my phone, deleted the applications on my facebook. Logged out of facebook, removed it from my phone. Re tried....no luck.
So I went back to my facebook account. Deleted the htc sense. wiped my phone, flashed a fresh rom. skipped the set up. Synced my contacts. and then tried to sync with htc sense. No luck. plugged in my friends facebook account, synced right up within seconds....
whats the deal?
spigen said:
well I went into my facebook account settings, found what you where talking about. There was multiplies of the htc sense and other. So i removed my account from my phone, deleted the applications on my facebook. Logged out of facebook, removed it from my phone. Re tried....no luck.
So I went back to my facebook account. Deleted the htc sense. wiped my phone, flashed a fresh rom. skipped the set up. Synced my contacts. and then tried to sync with htc sense. No luck. plugged in my friends facebook account, synced right up within seconds....
whats the deal?
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wow! that makes me not even wanna try! you did all that and still no results! what ROM are you on??
Damagecontrol v1, damagecontrol sprintupdate2, fresh rom 2.0d, fresh rom's newest one....it all continues to do the same.
thats prolly because peep.
try to disable peep auto update. get autokiller from the market and kill com.htc.bg and bgp. fixed it for me.
those two brought my rom and oc kernel to a complete death crawl
Avalaunchmods said:
thats prolly because peep.
try to disable peep auto update. get autokiller from the market and kill com.htc.bg and bgp. fixed it for me.
those two brought my rom and oc kernel to a complete death crawl
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I don't use peep. com.htc.bg and bgp failures happen whenever I try and sync. Doesn't work either if I kill them before I try and sync.
I've come to the conclusion it has to be something to deal with my facebook account. The only thing "facebook sync sense" syncs with is my (name, birthday and profile pic) nothing else. But if remove my account and replace it with my friends it sync perfectly fine. Any ideas?
oh yeah it synced perfectly fine with my account back when I had the phone stock with android 1.5
found the problem. If your facebook account has a symbol in it, like mine is Irish and has a " ' " take it out save facebook. Then uninstall from phone, re sync to phone. Works. how stupid.
VERY ANNOYING
I Have to FORCE close on on those 2 constantly. there has to be a reason for it
SOMEONE SOLVE THIS...
my fb has no symbols, i can open then close fb without them starting. its totally random when they come on
It's very strange, from what I gather is that the errors appear when facebook sync is unable to sync because of it not being correctly connected with your account.
Since I've deleted the ' in my last name on my facebook account and re-added facebook sense to my phone, it synced up and downloaded all 370 contacts to my phone within a couple minutes. I've also had zero errors, etc...
spigen said:
It's very strange, from what I gather is that the errors appear when facebook sync is unable to sync because of it not being correctly connected with your account.
Since I've deleted the ' in my last name on my facebook account and re-added facebook sense to my phone, it synced up and downloaded all 370 contacts to my phone within a couple minutes. I've also had zero errors, etc...
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we were having the same problems to the T!! now your facebook works simply because you deleted a ' from your account name?!?!
i don't have no symbols and i followed all the other steps as well about removing the facebook htc sense from facebook and all the above. haven't tried the peep since i do use it but how do you kill the btp and bg???
bankaisnake said:
wow! that makes me not even wanna try! you did all that and still no results! what ROM are you on??
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any fix to this?
The problem I'm having is the com.htc.bg process stays open when sycning calendar. This causes obex service to constantly run and keeps the phone from sleeping. I have yet to find a fix for this besides killing the obex process manually.

Facebook for HTC Sense issue

Just did a factory wipe of my phone and now when trying to log in to Facebook for HTC Sense I am getting: The service is currently unavailable. Would you like to try again. Tried again with and without wireless to no avail.
Anyone else having this issue?
Restored back to a Nandroid backup that had been working fine, removed the Facebook for HTC Sense sync account and tried re-adding it, getting same issue. Sounds like a problem with Facebook.
Just flashed my Desire tonight and I can't sync Facebook.....it's getting me mad now.....grrrrrrr
It is ok, that is a very useless bloatware feature of Sense... Soo lucky!
I like the Facebook for HTC Sense app, it sync pictures for all of my contacts to their Facebook accounts so I don't have to. I loved that feature in MobileShell 3.5 for Windows mobile.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Heres HTC's response.....not tried it though as no doubt it won't work
In regards to Facebook I can help you with that. Please try the following steps if these do not help please contact the HTC helpline. Check People>Menu>View and confirm is the Facebook and/or the Facebook for HTC Sense is ticked. Log into there Facebook Account online and check if anything has changed. Does your password contain any unusual characters? (!ӣ$%^&*()_+) etc. Open People app>select the globe symbol>Facebook>Menu> Refresh. If you have checked all this and it fails try Home>Menu>Applications>Manage Applications >Facebook for HTC Sense>Clear Cache>Clear Data. Home>Menu>Settings >Accounts & Sync>Facebook for HTC Sense>Sync Now. I trust that this resolves your query. Please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
kurtish your pessimism was spot on. HTC's instructions do not work.
I noticed this as well after using the OTA update leak
Just ran Across this on the XDA home page today
HTC Sense Not Playing Nice with Facebook
Followed the steps in the post and Facebook for HTC Sense now connects, but it still doesn't seem to be working properly. If I go to a contact and try to link it to a facebook contact it doesn't show any of my contacts. Definitel sounds like Facebook changed something that broke the way the HTC Facebook app interacted with it.
Functionality seems to be restored for some users now, I personally had to nandroid restore back to a few days ago pre-FB/HTC issue, but once I did that+some muddling/restarts, all contacts sync'd as they should. YMMV
I have had the same issue with sense not getting along with face book. In people, where you choose which contacts to show, I checked my contacts for face book but it showed 0 of them. After restoring any data I thought would help thru titanium, un-installing fb, re installing fb, and re booting did things seem to be back to normal.
Beamed into cyber space by my Droid Incredible
Apparently HTC have advised some customers that the issue will be fix within 48 hours.....so give it until Christmas and we'll be able to sync again

[Q] D1 *.apk's running on Fascinate

I don't know about other people on the forum, but the one thing (and I do mean one) that I hate about the fascinate is the horrible facebook syncing that it has. By default, you seem to have to manually set up each individual person for facebook sync by 'linking' the profiles. I hate it, and I miss the D1 where it automatically did everything for you. That's the one thing I miss (minus FroYo).
My question, and I'm going to experiment tonight, is if you replace system files with D1 apk's, can it work since most android applications do not seem to be resolution dependant (coded with %'s instead of 400px's, for example if that makes sense)?
Any input would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently running a deodexed heavily modified AOSP Magic 0.2 rom of my own creation, but essentially the AOSP Magic rom.
DanManners said:
I don't know about other people on the forum, but the one thing (and I do mean one) that I hate about the fascinate is the horrible facebook syncing that it has. By default, you seem to have to manually set up each individual person for facebook sync by 'linking' the profiles. I hate it, and I miss the D1 where it automatically did everything for you. That's the one thing I miss (minus FroYo).
My question, and I'm going to experiment tonight, is if you replace system files with D1 apk's, can it work since most android applications do not seem to be resolution dependant (coded with %'s instead of 400px's, for example if that makes sense)?
Any input would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently running a deodexed heavily modified AOSP Magic 0.2 rom of my own creation, but essentially the AOSP Magic rom.
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Mine automatically does it...
The only one I had to manually sync was "Mom" to her real name.
phoenx06 said:
Mine automatically does it...
The only one I had to manually sync was "Mom" to her real name.
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I have never had it sync automatically. I have always either had 'Facebook Sync Error' or it says it's doing it any never does.
Also, just an update. No. It doesn't work. I don't have any way to get to contacts now, even though I switched back to the original files...Fantastic. LOL
EDIT: Does anyone have the ContactsProvider.apk? Deleted it and have no backup now haha
OP, I'm assuming you're talking about DI01?
Heres a deodexed version from D101
Mine syncs thm automatically if I click the get friends option and go select everyone in my phone book. I also hate that I have to do this. Stock android and htc sense handled this WAY better.
You have to be patient with the syncing with Facebook on this phone.
I too noticed my Facebook wasn't sync'ing, so this is what I did.
Delete the Facebook App
Erase the Stock Facebook Syncing
Re-download and install Facebook App and sign in.
Go back into Accounts & Sync and use the stock Facebook Icon (It's darker and more round)
Fill out your information, hit sync, set it and forget it. Just let it sit and think and do its thing forever, the screen will more than likely timeout, but thats ok, go make a sandwich, then come back and check it.
I've done this twice now and it's sync'd up. You might have to manually fix some contacts, but that's probably always the case.
It does mess up every once in awhile and can't re-sync, just go back into accounts and sync, uncheck the boxes, recheck them and let it sit again.
mackeydesigns said:
You have to be patient with the syncing with Facebook on this phone.
I too noticed my Facebook wasn't sync'ing, so this is what I did.
Delete the Facebook App
Erase the Stock Facebook Syncing
Re-download and install Facebook App and sign in.
Go back into Accounts & Sync and use the stock Facebook Icon (It's darker and more round)
Fill out your information, hit sync, set it and forget it. Just let it sit and think and do its thing forever, the screen will more than likely timeout, but thats ok, go make a sandwich, then come back and check it.
I've done this twice now and it's sync'd up. You might have to manually fix some contacts, but that's probably always the case.
It does mess up every once in awhile and can't re-sync, just go back into accounts and sync, uncheck the boxes, recheck them and let it sit again.
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Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but what do you mean delete the stock Facebook sync? The 'AccountAndSyncSettings.apk' in /system/app?
Yeah, I'm also confused. After installing the Facebook for Android app, I see the alternative facebook account in Accounts & Sync but no matter how many times I tap on it, I cannot select it.
heres why..
the contacts that you have on your
phone might have diffrent names than
your contacts on facebook.
what you do is have your contacts
name exactly how it is on facebook
same spelling etc..
then it should automatically sync
on your phone.
i never had a problem with
syncing my contacts/facebook
Dan, were you able to get the Droid's contacts apk working?
What about adding the Facebook App's account instead of the built in one? I still cannot get that to work. If I remove the facebook app, it also disappears. I install the facebook app, go to accounts & sync, click the lower facebook account, and it takes me to the facebook app's login, but gives me no option to sync pictures to my contacts as it would on the original Droid.
In the interim, I've discovered SyncMyPix which will pull facebook pics for your google contacts and attach them. It also will sync the pics to your google account so in gmail, you'll see their facebook picture. SyncMyPix can be set to update daily, weekly, or monthly to keep the pictures up to date. It's not as good as the Droid's version, but it works for now.

My Quest of finding a Solution to Battery Drain and some funny stuffs

I have got my galaxy S2 for a week now. I absolutely love the phone. Just that the battery problem is killing me. I only manage to get half day of usage for the phone. Then I started reading infinite number of threads on xda on battery issue. I basically tried every possible methods:
flashing so many roms (on decided to stay on KF2 right now),
deleting all widgets(could be),
root the phone and install titanium backup to delete a lot of software which ppl
classified as the source of the drain(could be),
disable fast dormancy(dun see the difference),
disable push email and sync(could be),
using advance task killer to kill app every hr (dun work),
juice defender(dun work)...
etc etc...
SOMEHOW, my battery drain issue STOPPED yesterday!!! I still dunno what exactly is causing it to stop draining. But I DID find out a pattern, when we go to the battery plot section, if the phone shows a solid "Awake" bar, then the battery drains very fast.
So I started trying very possible way to stop the phone being "awake", the above methods I marked as cound be are the ones that I think can actually help. Using advance task killer does make a "segmented awake bar" for a few minutes, but it becomes a solid bar soon after, so no use (i found "clean memory" function comes with the phone better than ATK). Deleting widgets wont stop the phone being awake but it certainly makes my phone feeling lighter and faster. Then I rooted the phone, and start using titanium backup to delete ( i cant just freeze with free version) the possible softwares, e.g the hubs, wifi-sharing, softwaire updates. Then all in a sudden, the phone tries to sleep!!!
For me, I think social hub could be making the phone awake (at least it must be one of them), but I NEED if I need to use the email app that come with the phone for receiving emails from hotmail.
funny stuff starts....
So solve it, I imported my hotmail account to gmail using POP so that I can use gmail app to check hotmail. But then my hotmail and gmail start going crazy...!!
Reason: I did similar setting before in my hotmail account to receive gmails in to my hotmail account. What happens next is... Yes.. I basically created a "loop function" which makes the two accounts keep exchanging emails automatically to one another.. I received 1000+ emails in just a few minutes and it keeps going faster and faster.!!! > < Therefore I wont try this again!!!!
Can someone tell me a solution of getting hotmail emails in other ways besides those stupid apps (e.g android mail) in the android market which basically acts as a bookmark to get you to the hotmail page? MANY THANKS!
One of these might help:
POP your hotmail into a new yahoo mail account and install yahoo mail client.
Set up a new gmail account and POP hotmail into it, use gmail client to read main and this new account.
Figure out whats wrong with your phone that makes samsung stock mail waste juice, I use it for exchange mail and it's just a bit more hungry than what I would have wanted, I get through a heavy usage day just fine.
JuiceDefender surely helps. I'm getting 2 days with medium usage, KE7 stock firmware. Yes, as you said if you have background tasks, that will kill the battery, but just close them if you don't need them. Also disable auto-sync, and let only your email sync.
Thank you kreo, i will try yahoo mail account with ur method!

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