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[Q] [REQ] No-phone G1 ROM, a light-weight ROM

Hi,
I retired my G1 in favor of a Nexus One, for the all the reasons you can imagine if you used both devices, and I've moved my contract from the G1 to the N1 I bought without service.
However, my G1 is still fully functional and I do not want to sell it, but would like to give it a new life.
Froyo on the G1 is impressive, but let's face it, the G1 can't deal with it too well. There are too many features, too much stuff for the G1 limited memory, and barely starting an app frequently results in the home app to be quit, making simple operations slower than they would otherwise. Still, in the background, many services run that are now irrelevant: messaging, BT and others.
I would like to use my G1 to stream music at home, from a Wifi connection, using Pandora, last.fm or some other streaming service or podcast app. Just running Pandora brings the device to its knees, probably because it uses too much memory.
I imagine that many G1 owners like me have moved their SIM to some other device, or moved to a different carrier on a different (Android) phone and have no SIM for their G1 anymore. How about a ROM that would not have any of the phone features enabled to save as much memory as possible? Not having to run the GSM modem might also be able to save us some valuable RAM? As is, I haven't found any way to disable permanently SMS & other services that keep coming back, at the very least when I reboot the phone. It would be great to be able to just disable many components I never use, like G-talk, SMS or the phone part of this device that still has so much to offer, and could do so so much better with the memory savings!
If such a ROM exists already, or if there is an app or a hack I could use on top of CyanogenMod 6, I would love to know about it. I've looked for it, I swear, but could not find anything like that.
thanks!
-g

Well you can disable edge and 3g via the powerbar widget. I believe there is an app for root users in market that let's you uninstall stock phone apps like mms, gtalk, and phone.
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the phone becomes even more useful and powerful and effective once it is taken off the "daily driver" list and is no longer being abused as a telephone. You have a microsupercomputer that can do it all....... gps, render, flashdrive. bla bla bla. Think out of the box folks!
I would love to get rid of phone.apk and all that telephony.

BuddhaTeh1337 said:
Well you can disable edge and 3g via the powerbar widget. I believe there is an app for root users in market that let's you uninstall stock phone apps like mms, gtalk, and phone.
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Well, since there is no SIM in the "phone", there is no need to disable edge and 3g, but uninstalling the stock apps certainly works great! I've done pretty much what you suggested, and the G1 flies now, as apps can all fit in RAM, and I can even keep the virtual keyboard. I think I've taken down the link to the user's profile at the same time, but that's ok (for now). I just wish I would know a little better what I'm uninstalling when using System App Remover (the naming is not particularly obvious), but it's working for me quite well. Pandora & Last.fm fly and my G1 is giving me all it's got!
thanks!
-g

I don't see anything easy, or pre-built. is it a requirement to be on 2.2 froyo?
this is a $1 app, System App Remover, find it in the Market. and it may work for you, i've never used it.

somewhat newbie data/3g/background data question

on vodafone here, just wondering if i'm paying through my nose if background data is enabled, auto off, 3g is on and data connection isn't active (nor is wireless).
Thanks, I've added three screenshots to explain.

First: get rid of that task killer
If you're on contract then I wouldn't worry about data, assuming your contract includes some data (in the UK Vodafone give 500MB of data). Otherwise, you'll just have to see how much you have to pay per MB, and see what you think.

tell me of a more decent task killer for c7 with 2.3 and i'll install it
and yeah, contract, *123# tells me i don't have very much to pay, but that's just voice

The point is you don't need any taskkiller Android doesn't need them. It will automaticly free up RAM when it's needed.
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Use 3g watchdog to monitor your data usage

i skimmed it and recognized the argument, but it's a windows obsession, i guess... how come the flavour i'm using has back-button app-kill functionality then?
and hey, it's not like i'm running an antivirus
thanks to both of you for the tips and help, all the best

Long-press back to kill is mainly a development function.

3G Watchdog (as said above) and TrafficStats Lite. Use them both, they're excellent. TSL is very good for weeding out rogue bandwidth-stealing apps.

Att bloatware removal

So I just set up 3 atrixes on my family plan and found that all Att apps are completely worthless. The other users on the plan kept trying to use att navigator instead of google maps and it caused a lot of problems since all att programs ask for extra payment and activation. I know that most users here wont use these programs but I felt it was an extra step to avoid extra payments.
Does anyone else feel that these att programs are complety useless and prey on the uninformed? I have yet to find a use for any of them...
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You can remove most of the AT&T apps, and use Titanium back-up (if rooted) to freeze (removed from system tray and startup) most of the rest (including Motorola apps).
Settings > Applications > Manage Applications >press to select app > uninstall
(This is from what I understand from reviews as I do not yet have the phone in my possession to try this.)

You can kill 2 bird with one stone by doing the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
It's a root, then upgrade to 4.1.57, then applying a custom set of theme/widgets (awesome job!). In the process, it will remove the bloatware.
As far as just removing the bloatware, can you not just uninstall them? If not, someone will be along shortly to correct me.

Yes they are junk! That's why we call them bloatware the very first thing I did when I got my atrix was delete all the bloatware. I actually kept the my at&t one I like to occasionally check my minutes. But don't think this is only an Att thing... All of the carriers have them ex. sprint family locator, sprint tv etc... See the sprint tv is even a little confusing since some channels are free and some are subscription. So just be careful what you click on and read it first! Either way I'm sure a quick call to customer service will get the charges reversed.. As long as you pay your bills on time! Lol

Some of the apps you can uninstall, some won't. I heard that w/ the Atrix and the HTC 4G (forgot the name) you can use the ATT Nav for free. Is this true or not???

brimart37 said:
Some of the apps you can uninstall, some won't. I heard that w/ the Atrix and the HTC 4G (forgot the name) you can use the ATT Nav for free. Is this true or not???
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I highly doubt it, since it's a $9.99 feature I can enable on my account.
Furthermore, why would you want it when you get Google Maps for free?

I actually like using the task manager to auto-end apps when the screen is off.

[Q] Android System uses alot of data.

I'm monitoring my data usage on my phone because I have al limited data subscription. Now I see Android System Using alot of data (background) when the phone is in standby. I dunno what for, when I press to look at the stats it just says Android System. I don't backup, only sync my contacts, gmail and agenda. Is there someting I'm overlooking that uses data through the android system. Its frustrating because its eating my data away without the knowledge on what or which program is using.
Maybe someone can inform me what to do? Used 90 MB in the last five days only on Android System.
SOLVED: It was a app called Dumpert.nl (dutch app for funny movies) everytime I played a movie it was loading as Android System. I noticed it when Dumpert wasn't showing any big data usage while using 3G.

Duveldg said:
I'm monitoring my data usage on my phone because I have al limited data subscription. Now I see Android System Using alot of data (background) when the phone is in standby. I dunno what for, when I press to look at the stats it just says Android System. I don't backup, only sync my contacts, gmail and agenda. Is there someting I'm overlooking that uses data through the android system. Its frustrating because its eating my data away without the knowledge on what or which program is using.
Maybe someone can inform me what to do? Used 90 MB in the last five days only on Android System.
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restrict background data in data usage in setting

I have similar problem, but it is still within my data plan limit, so I just ignore it!
What I hate are these general terms in the data monitor app. Android system! Please google try to break it down to something more detailed for a normal user!
I also have quite a lot of data used by the play store, although I never download or update apps except on WIFI! I'm not sure how I got this data used!
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Restricting the background data isn't possible with Android-System. It's bugging the hell out of me. I come from iPhone and if this isn't going to be sorted out soon. I will get a iPhone because this is not normal. I want to be the one who is using data and not the system alone. Google needs te be more specific on this subject. Nobody knows what "Android-System is doing. All the information is blocked.

"Android OS" consuming insane amount of data in background

I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, on ver 6.0.1; Build No:MMB29K.G935FXXU1APD1
Notice couple week ago, I have finished my monthly data quota of 3Gb, upon checking data usage close to 1/3 is consumed by "Android OS" in background.
Since then, I been on quest to find out what actually caused the drain on data. I have tried
1. Run in safe mode, "Android OS" in background continue
2. Factory reset, "Android OS" in background continur.
3. "Reset Network Setting", work for a couple a day, then "Android OS" in background came back again.
4. Off all Google Account Sync and Off background data, "Android OS" in background continue too.
Now I am really out of ideas... really disappointed with Android now.... planning to sell off my phone and switch to Iphone

Just as a comparison, between 7am to 1pm today, "Android OS" already consumed 37Mb; while my web brwsing in the same period only used up 95mb. And I have Facebook app disabled already.

at a 'wag' I'd speculate that you have one/all of the background reporting enabled (diagnostics, security reports, app scanning, et. al.).
you could also take a walk through the 'optimize battery usage' settings to restrict the various apps to limit their usage.
these things are discussed in the battery consumption thread(s) but they also affect data usage.

^^^ what he said
I had the same issue the very first week I got the device (800+ MB consumed by Android OS) - it automagically stopped once I greenified and Dozed the sh!t out of it.
Mind you, even at the beginning I had no sync and most of apps disabled for background data usage.
Sh!ty implementation if you ask me: it almost looks like a collusion between Google and the carriers to waste your data. Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data (I speak as a Canadian screwed by the monopolies...).

Ipse_Tase said:
Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data
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"duh" - they can bill you for more data consumption, makes complete sense to me!
I had the thought that it'd be very nice (from a user' point of view) of everything not absolutely necessary was disabled by default and a nice 'wizard' walked you through enabling of ANYTHING which will use background data, location, or radio (essentially anything using power or money). Sort of the mirroring the "secure by default" ethic where everything would need to be individually opted-in. Alas, I feel this is contrary to the interests not only of the phone carriers (who want to bill more for data service), OEM (who want to regularly sell you a new device), and Google (who wants to leverage data of/about/by you to create $).
Or maybe I'm just a little cynical.

Ipse_Tase said:
^^^ what he said
I had the same issue the very first week I got the device (800+ MB consumed by Android OS) - it automagically stopped once I greenified and Dozed the sh!t out of it.
Mind you, even at the beginning I had no sync and most of apps disabled for background data usage.
Sh!ty implementation if you ask me: it almost looks like a collusion between Google and the carriers to waste your data. Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data (I speak as a Canadian screwed by the monopolies...).
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how you greenify Doze? dont think it is available on Sammy phone.

I started to monitor the "Android OS" usage every 5~10min... what I notice is, it starts drain data every time I go online, e.g. surf net, FB app, etc.
So for example, surf net at 10:00am... and close the browser... 5 min later I will notice the "Andoird OS" data consumption increased by another 2-3Mb.

lkoky said:
how you greenify Doze? dont think it is available on Sammy phone.
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2.9beta2...read the forum thread in the Greenify section.

Ok, seems to have found a solution. I boot into recovery and
1. wipe cache
2. wipe data
now it is running ok. "Android OS" no longer draining data in background.
Not quite sure why the previous two time factory reset via setting menu wont do the tricks though.

I have the same trouble! Android SO consumes a lot of data, I'm gonna try your solution I hope it works!!
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Any solutions for this ? im still having this problem.

forum.xda-developers.com/note5/help/guide-how-to-fix-android-os-battery-t3423150
You may wanna check the wakelocks, probably most often used will be your evil one

AASAservice
Download the Package disabler in google play and disable the system app named AASAservice. You will be OK. I found this solution through a data manager app called DATAEYE. If you still worry about your data usage, you can try to use this app too.

Ipse_Tase said:
^^^ what he said
I had the same issue the very first week I got the device (800+ MB consumed by Android OS) - it automagically stopped once I greenified and Dozed the sh!t out of it.
Mind you, even at the beginning I had no sync and most of apps disabled for background data usage.
Sh!ty implementation if you ask me: it almost looks like a collusion between Google and the carriers to waste your data. Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data (I speak as a Canadian screwed by the monopolies...).
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Samsung is actually very open about it. They said that first and foremost, it is the carriers, that are their customers. Not the average Joe blow like us.
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lgh197219721 said:
Download the Package disabler in google play and disable the system app named AASAservice. You will be OK. I found this solution through a data manager app called DATAEYE. If you still worry about your data usage, you can try to use this app too.
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Any specific "Package Disabler"? Since there is are at least 10 of them. Who si the developer?

knyaztmi said:
Any specific "Package Disabler"? Since there is are at least 10 of them. Who si the developer?
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I think he's talking about BK package disabler Pro which is what I use too, great app.
However, cant remember now if this is possible in MM but in Android 7 Nougat you can restrict data usage for anything you like except apps that really need to use data like facebook and your browser etc, but you can still restrict them from using background data regardless, screenshots below, as far as I'm concerned, theres not really much on my phone that I want accessing my data without me knowing about it, I don't send picture messages etc, and I don't need weather and traffic updates every 10 secs etc.

Can anyone tell me what is this?
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