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I`m a bit confused right now ... i really loved the HTC evo 4G but since i live in India ... i cant get my hands on that...
The only good phones i am left with are desire , xperia x10 or samsung galaxy
Pls let me know which one should i go for
And i wanted to know how are the games in galaxy .. are they even comparable to iphone games??...
Hey there fellow Indian
I bought my phone a couple of weeks ago. To me, Xperia X10 wasn't even an option. It doesn't run 2.1, is very laggy according to all the reviews I checked, and is very overpriced given its drawbacks (32k in Bangalore two weeks ago).
So me and a friend were trying to decide between the Desire and SGS. On paper, SGS out-specs the Desire in almost every single aspect. Yet, the prices of the two phones were comparable. And that alone more than convinced me to buy the Galaxy. My friend, however, was of the opinion that he couldn't live without the Sense UI on the Desire. So he bought that one.
2 weeks later, I'm majorly disappointed with the Galaxy. GPS sucks to the core, there's almost always a lag when launching an app (anywhere between 1 and 6 seconds). His Desire, despite being a lot less powerful, is extremely snappy for everyday use. He's very happy with his choice. I really really hope the GPS issue is just a software one and not anything hardware related, and that a future update fixes it (although I'm starting to get skeptical). But I'm pretty sure the lag problem will be fixed pretty soon. I won't regret my decision if the GPS gets fixed. But if not, I'm never touching another Samsung ever again!!
About the games, no, there aren't as many good games for Android as for the iPhone. Only a handful of good graphic ones. I have a lot more games I like on my 1st gen iPod Touch than on my SGS.
Pick wisely. Good luck!
I almost got the X10, but for me the decision that swung me to the galaxy S was multitouch (the X10 keyboard is really bad because of the bad touchscreen) and two was the amount of media that will play on the galaxy S.
My workmate has the desire and it is damn nice, its a matter of preference really.
I do miss having the little optical tracker from an Samsung.
Well I have to admit that there are some issues with the SGS. The GPS was simply unusable before the JM2 firmware and the lags used to be quite bad too (but there are fairly simple fixes for that issue around here). The GPS is annoying but doesn't bug me as much since I can figure out where I am on a map within a minute even in big cities and the network based locations makes that even quicker so gps in general has very little added advantage for me. But: It's still far from good on the newest firmware and samsung still has to work on that.
The lags, however, I find to be almost completely gone if you use the latest firmware in combination with a task killer (i personally use autokiller on strict preset).
And altough I never noticed much difference for snappiness when compared to my friends desire, I have to say that the touchscreen on the SGS is so much more accurate and responsive. World of difference here.
As for comparison to the iPhone on games: Games for Android suck because Android applications in general have a lower quality level that iPhone apps. They just aren't as mature. For the games that do have good graphics, however, the SGS wipes the floor with anything apple can provide (yes, also the iPhone 4. The GPU of the SGS is some 3 times more powerful than that in the iP4)
The device specific issues (GPS and lags) will very likely be fixed in the official froyo release that is due somewhere next month and anything beyong that is a general issue for android which will gradually fade as google allows checkout methods other than creditcards (which are rather uncommon among european users) and devs realize that android is a market with absolutely speaking even more potential than iPhone because it's growing like crazy and the first android phones with good specs for about 130e are being released (a market in which apple simply cannot compete)
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At the moment (weighing all the issues that haven't been fixed as well as specs and future-proofness) I would say the following:
Desire=SGS>iP4<iP3GS
(For now, the desire is softwarewise almost flawless, however, the hardware is outdated compared to the SGS, inferior screen, crappy GPU, much less accurate touchscreen BUT everything is working whereas the SGS still has its issues. The iP4 has a mechanical design error (deathgrip) which is simply not present on any other phone on the market today and which makes calling in the position I find comfortable simply impossible. The iP3 works great but comes nowhere near the SGS or even the desire in terms of internal hardware. Only it touchscreen accuracy can beat the desire and the screen quality (especially resolution) is simply awful.)
Err... better don't discuss iPhone here. I might be tempted to tear down every arguments put up against it. LOL.
I was hugely disappointed when I first purchased after having owned and sold ky black desire which I was extremely happy with. That was 2 weeks ago after rooting and flashing JM2 firmware I'm extremely happy. Sammy gs is definitely better then any mobile out there at the moment, screen resolution is superior sound is superior camera video playback etc etc pretty much on every term. It's smooth fast and looks good. Touchwiz is not great buti customize is a breeze.
The sgs is 3 times faster than the iphone 3gs, the iphone 4 has the a4 cpu/gpu wich is same as sgs except for minor changes made by apple
For gaming I would definitly go for iphone at the time, android gaming is still a bit lacky so the sgs's hardware wont show it's power for now
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If apps are The most important factor then go with the iPhone 4 definitely, don't get wrong Android market does have somebrilliant apps however Apple have superior apps. But if you're looking for the best mobile experience in regards to the basic functions ie making calls text messaging emails and internet surfing then go with Sammy gs no question. Customization is brilliant whereas iPhone has and awful awful UI. One of the reasons I hate iPhone and + can't customize it as easily without jail breaking etc.
The SGS' GPU is better than the iPhone 4's: it's the PowerVR SGX 540, which is twice as fast as the SGX 535 in the iPhone 4. The larger market (and, probably, fewer hardware platforms) of the iPhone does mean that it has more and better-quality games though.
Those are the three phones I was considering also, since the EVO 4G isn't available in the UK (no CDMA networks for a start!), and I've decided now to go for the Galaxy S based on its hardware.
The only advantage the Xperia X10 has for me is its LCD-based screen; the others both have AMOLED screens on which text is less sharp due to the PenTile layout, but have higher contrast. Running Android 1.6 and apparently being generally slow count against it, and I have no interest in its TimeScape/MediaScape UIs. It only got rooted pretty recently despite being out for months, and it seems the bootloader hasn't been bypassed yet, so it's not looking like a great development platform.
The Desire has an AMOLED screen, but not Super AMOLED like the Galaxy S, so its sunlight visibility is worse, and its screen is smaller. It also doesn't have a good capacitive digitiser - I believe it only supports two points, and those can get swapped over. However, it has the generally well-thought-of Sense UI, and an active development community.
The Galaxy S has the best CPU (by a little) and the best GPU (by a lot), and the Super AMOLED screen ameliorates one of the drawbacks to having AMOLED (though text is still not as crisp as on an LCD). It seems it will have a decent development community, which is frustratingly fragmented on XDA since it has 5 different forums for the international version and the the 4 US variants. It's rooted and has a factory-unlocked bootloader though. The main drawbacks seem to be the lagging issue, which appears to be improved on newer firmwares, and can be fixed with the external SD card kernel, and the GPS problem, which various users have reported improvements with, but which isn't too critical for me. All my phones always seem to have slow GPS locks, and I don't use them for navigation. It also doesn't have a camera flash, but I rarely use the camera, and it lacks notification LEDs, which is a minor nuisance but there's already a program around to put a notification on the screen.
My perfect device built with current components would have a 4.3" LCD (not AMOLED), a 1GHz Hummingbird, have hardware front buttons, run HTC Sense and have a good chance of getting future Android updates, whether official or not. Unfortunately there is no such phone, and the closest won't work where I live, so I have to go with the phone that has the fewest compromises in areas I care about. So I'm going for the Galaxy S because software problems can be fixed, but hardware can't be changed.
My point of view, I owned all of them, I now use the SGS and love it
Desire - PRO`s - HTC Sense, Better FW, the opaque plastic wich is made of, more hand friendly, good screen (it uses less power than the super amoled, judging from the readings of the android), good sound quality, good camera with LED flash;
CON`s - Battery, touch pannel (I push the Menu button and the Notification pannel slides down for ex., and is too darn sensitive) crapy CPU, slow GFX, no EQ;
X10 - PRO`s - Battery is very good (lasts for 3-4 days with moderate usage), design, 8MP Camera with Image Stabiliser and LED flash, good sound quality;
CON`s - Crapy CPU, slow GFX, don`t like the UI, no EQ;
SGS - PRO`s - Great screen (super amoled), very fast CPU and GFX, nice UI, perfect response from the touch screen (no touch problems like on Desire), [email protected] video rec, great sound quality with EQ, great video performance (plays mkv 720p files without problems);
CON`s - Battery, fingerprint nightmare, the display uses allot of power compared to Desire`s AMOLED, GPS problems (fixed with new version of FW), design and menu resembles the iphone too much for my taste;
Hope it helps.
The Desire and X10 shouldn't really have significantly lower CPU power than the Galaxy S - they both have 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragons. The 1GHz Samsung Hummingbird (somehow) benches a little higher. The Snapdragon GPU is not particularly good, though, whereas the Hummingbird has the best on any mobile phone as far as I know.
Considering how Qualcomm built their own ARM Cortex A8 core which does more instructions per second than the reference design that the Hummingbird is based off, I don't quite understand why the Hummingbird is faster.
Desire is better for everyday use, for games and multimedia consider galaxy s...
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Why I will pick Samsung Galaxy S i9000 over Nexus One or HTC Desire
Hi Folks,
I wrote a short article on why I will pick up SGS i9000 over N1 or HTC Desire... thought, I will share with you all.
hxxp://bit.ly/why-i9000
Please do share your views
Thanks!
we actually have a topic about that already, but never the less, the more the merrier
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we actually have a topic about that already, but never the less, the more the merrier
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Thanks AllGamer
I am getting my device on this weekend - can't wait
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Hello Mr. Sunshine.... if people are allowed to post whine threads, then he should be allowed to post happy threads
Galaxy s vs desire vs x10 Poll
i wana purchase 1 of these phones . which you guys think is better and why?
X10, really? Just cross that one off the list. I'm fine with a lot of phones replacing it, X10 is just not even close to the league of whichever comes in second.
My buddy has the desire now he wishes he had the Samsung S
Hi
i have been a very long time HTC user i had a Gene & Jade(both wimmo) and i do have a Tattoo i recently got my Galaxy 3 and i wanted to share my experince with this phone Viz HTC and wanted to also know what the others feel thats all
Here goes
1. not too happy with the battery is seems to be giving me less life than the
other Phones i have used only around 1 1/2 days and now my use is much less than it used to be
2. the touch screen i feel is not all that smooth as my other phones
3.and doing simple things like wiping ur phone hard reset seem to be a little
difficult it was much easier on my old phone ie i mean no codes bla bla
4. wifi connection is not too good on my other phone at home i get full wifi bar connecting to my home wifi on this phone i just seem to get 2 bars
and im talking about just about 10 feet away from my wifi modem that all
5. and Mobile internet this phone to my knowledge does not have a way to disconnect the mobile date i had to use the APNdroid to keep it off on my other phones i can long press the end call key i will get a pop up and i scroll down and make sure that it is off this is not their on this phone
6. Flashing well im crazy about flashing my phone and i love to do it
a. i dont see any cooked roms for this phone
b.using the Odin seems to be a little confusing for me on my tattoo i just need to put the Rom on my SD
go to the recovery and flash from SD this i think is not possible on this phone or is it
on the win mo phone it is just using an app called costume RUU i just need to put the NBH file in that connect my phone to PC and do what the app says and bang i got my new rom flashed
hey alfter all i have used HTC for a long time so it might be getting used to this phone but i was just stating my exp
Kindly also share your exp so we can all get to know this phone better
DONT ASK QUESTIONS HERE just share ur experience on this phone
Thanks
hari
After reading your post, nothing left to say. time to put the phone on ebay auction with starting price of $1.
Cheers
czat said:
After reading your post, nothing left to say. time to put the phone on ebay auction with starting price of $1.
Cheers
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hi
i was just stating my experience with this phone that's all dont u have anything to say if u are also using this phone
thanks
hari
great phone! earlier I was thinking about the low res screen and low grade cpu and thinking that perhaps better I should have gone foe optimus one or X8 but there are beefits of getting a samsung like the fantastic audio quality, and good video player
The cpu is enough for daily use , while the screen is one of the best 240 x 400 units I have seen, Just compare it with Wildfire to see what I mean
Its important to consider the price when evaluating this phone. I got mine for 25 CAD.
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Same.. I paid $210CAD with no contract for mine - New.
For a phone running Android 2.1 with nearly all the same features as the $500-$600 phones, I couldn't pass it up.
Sure, it doesn't have the same size or resolution screen, but it's a decent size and the swype feature works regardless of how small the screen is.
Overall very impressed with this phone.
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Same.. I paid $210CAD with no contract for mine - New.
For a phone running Android 2.1 with nearly all the same features as the $500-$600 phones, I couldn't pass it up.
Sure, it doesn't have the same size or resolution screen, but it's a decent size and the swype feature works regardless of how small the screen is.
Overall very impressed with this phone.
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I think LG OO is for the same price and you will get better GPS (Qualcomm), much better display (similiar to i3gs), RAM 512 Mb which means 2x more (faster), and no customization.
I think for 200 euro you can buy better phone. I don't understand how can Samsung release one device for more then 200 € with so much bugs )
issues with wifi, gps and display ?? why this resolution ?? Only one advantage is the google's android but I do not use any of samsung applications or widgets.
Many cheaper phones have better screen resolution.
Saka911 said:
great phone! earlier I was thinking about the low res screen and low grade cpu and thinking that perhaps better I should have gone foe optimus one or X8 but there are beefits of getting a samsung like the fantastic audio quality, and good video player
The cpu is enough for daily use , while the screen is one of the best 240 x 400 units I have seen, Just compare it with Wildfire to see what I mean
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hi
that is what i did and on comparing the specs looked really better but some how i dont feel the power of the much higher CPU
but Yes this audio if far far better than any HTC phone i have used Yes i do agree to this
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Its important to consider the price when evaluating this phone. I got mine for 25 CAD.
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this was the real reason why i got this phone and not the Wfire on paper it had better specs and better price than he htc WF
thanks
hari
nastyba said:
I think LG OO is for the same price and you will get better GPS (Qualcomm), much better display (similiar to i3gs), RAM 512 Mb which means 2x more (faster), and no customization.
I think for 200 euro you can buy better phone. I don't understand how can Samsung release one device for more then 200 € with so much bugs )
issues with wifi, gps and display ?? why this resolution ?? Only one advantage is the google's android but I do not use any of samsung applications or widgets.
Many cheaper phones have better screen resolution.
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Yeah, the LG OO didn't come out till over a month or two after I got my Galaxy 3 (It's $50 cheaper too).. Kinda sucks, but oh well.
I've had a lot of problems with LG phones - my friend's LG Eve is a piece.. They refused to upgrade to Android 1.6 even - stuck on 1.5.. the community had to release 1.6 and 2.1/2.2 for it since LG wasn't. The screen on that phone looks wayyyy nicer than my Galaxy 3..
Having said that, I'd still prefer a phone that's getting updates - at least it shows they're somewhat trying. Plus the bugs I have either have work-arounds, or are pretty minor.
Saka911 said:
great phone! earlier I was thinking about the low res screen and low grade cpu and thinking that perhaps better I should have gone foe optimus one or X8 but there are beefits of getting a samsung like the fantastic audio quality, and good video player
The cpu is enough for daily use , while the screen is one of the best 240 x 400 units I have seen, Just compare it with Wildfire to see what I mean
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Are you sure about "fantastic audio quality"? Anyway I use earphones or external speakers, my old nokia e56 had much better audio output. I think this 240x400 is one of the worst. LG OO has much better resolution and many cheapers phones too. If they leave the resolution as on galaxy spica and it has 512 Ram, then it's superphone. But not with samy firmware. LG didn't change anything with android and I think it's much better.
I don't use their TW because it's not stable with app2sd, and without app2sd it has only about 170Mb space for your applications. Thanks to JP9 I can use app2sd + I use LauncherPro and many other applications which make this phone usable and stable.
Who did realeased JP9 ?
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consider also your time that you have spent by fixing samy issues
I hope this resolution will not broke my eyez first hours of using this phone I had headake
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Yeah, the LG OO didn't come out till over a month or two after I got my Galaxy 3 (It's $50 cheaper too).. Kinda sucks, but oh well.
I've had a lot of problems with LG phones - my friend's LG Eve is a piece.. They refused to upgrade to Android 1.6 even - stuck on 1.5.. the community had to release 1.6 and 2.1/2.2 for it since LG wasn't. The screen on that phone looks wayyyy nicer than my Galaxy 3..
Having said that, I'd still prefer a phone that's getting updates - at least it shows they're somewhat trying. Plus the bugs I have either have work-arounds, or are pretty minor.
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I agree with you, I've heard also many issues about LG, but consider about this i5800 firmware. Have you ever seen a phone where wifi, gps etc... doesn't work ? That users must root the phone and fix it ? As far as I remember, I used to have xperia, nokia, HTC - but everything was working what was in specification of the device. Why they just didn't leave the lcd resolution of gala spica ? And LG have qualcome GPS processor and 2x RAM
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I agree with you, I've heard also many issues about LG, but consider about this i5800 firmware. Have you ever seen a phone where wifi, gps etc... doesn't work ? That users must root the phone and fix it ? As far as I remember, I used to have xperia, nokia, HTC - but everything was working what was in specification of the device. Why they just didn't leave the lcd resolution of gala spica ? And LG have qualcome GPS processor and 2x RAM
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My 8330 curve had GPS problems. A LOT if I remember correctly..
There was a special hack that needed to be done in order to fix it.
We'll see how they fix the GPS problem.. I really don't see Google allowing Samsung to screw up the GPS on their new Nexus though..
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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I know exactly what you mean, yesterday i was with a friend that bought the S2, I was so jealous ), but only until we putted our phones side by side, there wasn´t a difference between speeds, the screen is much bright of course, but it feels somewhat artificial to me, the camera has very nice colors, more vivid than the HD2 runing Android, better but not huge difference, and what blowed me away was that my HD2 was faster to open some apps, I know that the his S2 is bone stock but that reminded me that the time to upgrade to something new hasn´t come yet, and when i started to boot 4 different roms my friend couldn´t believe it..
The HD2 is still a great phone..
FriedSushi87 said:
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
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All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...
This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.
If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.
with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems
i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs )
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?
I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because
1) there is going to be much much more development for it.
2) qHD
3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)
I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....
Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.
For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.
I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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Samsung's answer to the HTC Evo 3D and LG Optimus 3D is set to arrive in Q4, making it the perfect Christmas present.
The Samsung Galaxy 3D is said to be very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S2, with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 4.3-inch touchscreen.
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/988411/samsung_galaxy_3d_set_to_land_by_christmas.html
what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.
I want to start a thread with my own review, but im placing it here cause it's more like a thread-starter than actual review.
Usage of smartphones general, and why is Desire Z still extremely useful phone:
1. Hardware keyboard: there are many YT videos showing speed typing on various devices, like iPhone, and Android tablets/phones, but nothing can compare to the actual keyboard. the main advantage, in my opinion is the fact that for a very short time, one can learn to type like using a PC keyboard - without looking. and that feature makes this phone as an actual mobile station for all sorts of stuff that emulate laptop usage. second advantage is clear screen when typing. that is pretty much the reason why I cant imagine to type on a non-hardware phone anymore.
2. material quality - hard casing, and not just compared to other companies, but also compared to the other HTC devices. This phone is like an homage to early indestructible phones that were not intended to be like that (3310, 6210, 7650) Is it weight, is it experiment from HTC (there are 20+ types of plastic for making plastic stuff like casings) or something else, but this phone is the hardest phone I had, and I had Samung Android, iPhones, SE, you name it.
And on top of that, keyboard hinge wont break. I cant find more than 5 forum posts using google where someone complains of broken Keyboard hinge.
And, on top of top of that - "Vision" are the last in HTC production line to have licenced Cornig Gorilla Glass. Sensation XL and phones after that have HTC's substitute glass. (God knows why)
3. Screen - let's start with SLCD - You will find many reviews stating that it's a bad product, cause of the viewing angles. Viewing angles being the MOST retarded property of a screen, marketing vise. WHO watches a screen from an angle, more than 3 seconds, in their life ? So, when we putt aside that property - you have screen (PVA panel) that produces colors maybe even better than IPS. People get easily tricked by Samsung marketing, when they read stuff like: "SUPER AMOLED 2" - like a trailer for Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. And it is in fact - regular OLED screen with active matrix, and digitizer stuck onto the screen itself. Oh my, what a wonder. It was, for sure, made so when you break the SGS2/Note screen, you pay arm and a leg for replacement. Buying digitizer and screen at the same time. And the worst part is that AMOLED is nowhere near that good, saturation is awful (my personal opinion), and >4.0 inch phones with AMOLED have bad colors (google "Note screen problem", "SGS2 screen problem"
Resolution of screen - How come that people get so hyped by late Steve, whenever "retina" was mentioned .. ? ~250PPI is better than "retina" (326PPI)!!!
My neighbor is a rich bastard, and he has every single product Apple made, so I had a chance to see that "retina" and it hurt my eyes. Reading non-zoomed web pages on Desire Z is barely possible, doing the same on 4s is NOT possible.
it is not the pixelation of a font that is problem, it is the possibility of reading such small font. Any other aspect for that matter, is just a marketing trick.
250PPI is perfect. I dont care what journalists say about the new iPad, I dont see anything near suggested with the "retina" hype.
4. High-end phone properties - CPU
CPU is similar to the last of the x86 Intel CeleronD single core series - insanely overclockable. and like that, VERY usable. SGS2 exynos (ARM Cortex A9 @ 1.2Ghz) on stock clock has a problem of playing "Ice breaker" game (for some reason this game draws FPS lag on many devices) and on 1.5Ghz OC-ed DesireZ it runs smooth. "Fragger" game slows down extremely on SGS2 when 3 bombs are thrown simultaneously, and that doesnt happen on 1.5Ghz DZ. Dont know about other games on other phones, or Benchmarks for that matter, but this is my personal experience with SGS2 VS DZ (my brother has Samsung). Never really believed Benchmark scores since Intel started to temper with official results back in 2008 (Benchmark software in favor of Intel, compared to AMD)
I am aware of single core/dual core differences, but that is why one can flash DZ with G-slim or G-lite and enjoy the speed.
5. High-end properties - features
apart from resolution that is constantly growing on new devices, name 1 thing that DZ doesnt have ? This is NOT a midrange phone for housewives to share instagram photos, this is a serious device
Flaws -
1. it comes with crappy headphones. I myself soldered Koss Sparkplug earbuds to HTC stock headphones so I could enjoy the sound and still have cable-control buttons.
2. It is heavy. I see how many people could have problem with that but for me it's a good thing, cause I tend to lose phones, but with this one, I know where it is (pocket, jacket, etc..) and it "feels right" when holding it.
conclusion - This phone is Awesome. If I would buy a new, more expensive phone, I would like it to be 4.0 exact design like DZ, stronger CPU and slightly greater resolution. nothing more.
My only real problems with the phone is that it's too thick and heavy at times, it has severe death-grip reception issues with both wifi and mobile reception at my house where i have very little reception. Then, the thing that seems to let it down the most is the limited 512mb of RAM that it has, which makes it difficult to run Sense 3.* ROMs and such. Otherwise, i'm very happy with my phone and i agree with the points that you made . This is the best phone i've ever had!
Actually, my keyboard is slowly deteriorating >.<, a bunch of keys have stopped responding upon soft presses and need to be pressed firmly for any feedback.
Still a mid level phone. Everything i need is with DZ.
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Still a mid level phone. Everything i need is with DZ.
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I don't see how it's a mid level phone. Maybe performance wise, but it feels quite premium in almost every other aspect.
Wow, that was a kind of a roundhouse kick against all actual hypes.... i like!
I am totally at ur side. The only things i would like to have improved ist cam and ram, and size of screen. But thats kind of wishing, while taking a look at actual state of the art phones...
...at least a HTC ONE S with a HWK sounds nice to me (without AMOLED )
@crestofawave - I believe that he forgot to put "not" word after the "Still" word cause that way it makes sense.
@Superfr34k - Android users are real, compared to Apple, and even they fall under marketing influence. there are many things that do not make sense today, like when you buy a big LCDTV, you see on samsung producsts feat that says:
2 billion colors
standardized results via experiments gave 100.000 colors (human subjects), and biological calculations gave 10 million in the best case. So, this "2 billion" number stands only for Cylons and Terminators. not humans.
high resolution phones make sense, not because of the "retina" and other stuff, but because of only this feat: Wireless Full HD display mirroring. cause I dont see how one can use 1080p on a 5inch device.
all that stuff is the reason why this phone offers 90% of usage, and thats not for an average user, im talkingh about advanced users and their needs.
well
I think that the let down is the wieght, and cpu, it was 1ghz many people say it would be slightly faster which is good enough for me.
I hope they release another HTC Desire Z 2 like motorola releases droid 1 ,2 ,3 etc
If not I might have to get Galaxy S3 which Im not happy about touchscreen only phones nothing beats a qwerty keyboard
This is correct place to put a review since its general and nothing else. Op mentioned to put it here since not an "actual" review...no place else to do it
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Totally agree with everything in this article, and I know a whole lot of others do as well.
Unfortunately, it seems the cell phone market is swinging away from good phones like the G2/Desire Z. I will be keeping this phone until I see a worthy successor w/ hardware keyboard.
In all honesty, this is the best Android powered phone that I've owned, and that includes having previous phones like the Samsung Galaxy S, LG Optimus T and MyTouch 4G. The only complaint that I ever had with this phone is that I wished that the camera was a little sharper, as the full sized 5 MP pictures always seem to come out a little grainy. Usually decreasing the photo size with photoshop or other software solves that problem.
The camera is just a minor complaint, and I honestly don't expect high quality digital camera type quality from a phone camera. It would just be nice to have... that's all Other than that... it was a great phone when I got it, and it continues to be a great one. It runs all the apps I need it to, and I don't have any random crashes or force closes.
@Igoritza All the same.
I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with you. Especially the points you raise about the screens, Samsung with AMOLED, and Apple with Retina. Merely marketing baloney for their mindless fanatics.
I had no idea our desire z's screen were made of gorilla glass, Mayb I should drop it down the stairs to see how it holds up????
Bottomline there isn't many devices like the HTC Vision
The viewing angle on my screen is amazing. I did get a replacement screen a while ago so maybe mine is a newer revision?
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I love this phones' keyboard - it is made perfectly.
I have used Galaxy S before, and must say, that modified Desire Z is much faster than modified GS.
What I hate in DZ is its PERFORMANCE. Probably it's android systems natural drawback, that with designed UI like sense it's so slow, laggy and buggy.
Our phone runs smoothly only the AOSP GB what is really annoying.
I'n using Sensewich rom and it makes Desire Z feel like a brand new phone, even CM7 doesn't come close to this. I'm sure that once those changes make their way to other ICS roms and bugs are ironed out most of us will be satisfied with DZ for another year or so.
It's soooo smooth, *drool*
@shadal, I'd have to disagree with you. While our phone is obviously not iPhone smooth, it is a considerably fast device with a bit of overclocking (about 1.0-1.2GHz), on anything but Sense 3.x, maybe MIUI as well. Other than that, just about every other ROM I've flashed has been very fast in general.
Sense really isn't that bad...well, 3.x wasn't the best HTC could offer but 4.0 is VERY promising, tried it and it was so incredibly!!! smooth.
So yeah, AOSP has and will have an edge in performance but it seems like HTC is closing the distance...
i love my dz as well, but thinking about buying a nexus because of the larger screen/amoled. want to read ebooks on the phone. but for the dailystuff, whatsapp/email/calls it´s more than enough. bought a mugenakku and i´m very happy with that combination. the only thing i don´t like is the lcd, it really drains more than amoled. but i think i´m gonna wait with a new phone, but i´m pretty sure a phone with quadcore isn´t needed, i think quadcore is only needed for games, but i rarely play games on my phone.
I have a G2 just to be clear.
I just flash the latest Ice Cream JIBwich 2.0 which is based on the Andromadus Beta 1. They added the newly released GPU drivers from Qualcomm and this thing is fast and smooth now. Gives it new life, way faster than it ever was with GB.
Pretty damn happy with these ICS ROMs.
@tarroyo - please dont drop it down the stairs Gorilla has frontal indestructability (doesnt get pierced by bullets or arrows) but it does not endure side pressure. it will crack
@Shure2 - maybe it's IPS and not SLCD. HTC made a special order to Sony for supplies of SLCD's for making new 3.8 phones, but their initial supplier of 3.8 screens was Hanstar - IPS manufacturer that supplies ASUS and Apple. It is Hanstar company fault that HTC had to find alternative because they blackmailed them. So, yeah, your replacement could very well be from initial batches.
@miscz - I tried Sensewich but I need teh cam the cam itself is not that good, but changig ISO from AUTO to 100 improves "everyday photo shoot", and people's faces quality, or should I say - grainy photos are less grainy and better looking. whoever didnt know about this, should try (less ISO means how much camera is sensitive to light, but it also means shorter shutter speed)
it would be nice if someone knew of an App that lets you alter aperture and shutter, thus improving custom settings and making better pictures with DZ cam.
I've been having great experiences with Andromadus. I regret not having rooted my phone in the first year of owning it, seeing as a simple overclock and new rom has made it so much faster.
The thing I'll miss the most when I switch to a new phone is the lack of a physical keyboard... none of the new flagship phones have physical keyboards, and I'm not convinced that I could type anywhere near as quickly on an on screen keyboard if it's not on a tablet.
@Igoritza: I don't think there will be any thing we can really do to our cameras to catch up to all the latest and greatest phones now =[ No matter how I try, pictures from the iPhone 4S or Galaxy Note are far better. I guess we can come close in extremely well lit environments, but even in conditions which are slightly sub-optimal, our cameras tend to perform worse than theirs.
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
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Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
I just had to post a reply to this post...
My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.