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Preset wifi profiles on my Vario 2 = Free Hotspot access?

I was using my phone on my wifi connection earlier today, and I noticed in the Networks dialog there's a bunch of wifi connections already there (but I've not used the phone in town, and I've never even seen some of these wifi hotspot names before), so that got me thinking...
... Does the fact that I'm subscribed to Web 'n Walk as part of my tariff mean that I also have free access to any of the hotspots predefined in the list on my wifi networks screen?
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Anybody have the faintest clue as to why these are already in my wifi networks list?

Yeah, I've got an idea. It's 2nd hand or ex-display. considering no-one else has reported having these hot-spots pre-configured on their Vario2s, it seems logical or at least likely that the device has been used before.
i.e. returned under the 14 day guarantee that if not satisfied with the product, they'll take it back and squash the contract. look under 'device information' and then call duration. If the call duration exceeds your actual usage, then that prooves it. If however it matches your call usage (see you call history), then maybe just maybe, T-Mobile have introduced this to their extended ROM in newer devices, but I doubt it.

All calls: 27min, 30sec.
This about tallies with the amount of calls I've made (mainly to customer services to get stuff like HSDPA set up) and a query about my account, plus a call to my Dad and a couple of mates...
I did notice during the customisation process that there was a cab containing 'June 2006' in its filename... Here's my ROM and hw stats:
ROM: 1.21.110.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio: 1.05.05.00
Protocol ver: 32.36.7010.04H
My boot screen shows (in red)
M05
S04
B06
D1.21
at the lower left of the screen, and then my Radio and ROM versions show up fleetingly before the device shows the Windows Mobile splash screen. The device also had its protective screen cover on, which I had to peel off - and didn't look like the screen had been touched or used. Of course, they could clean it...
... I don't think this was a refurb though. Course, I could be wrong. I suppose I'll have to go find a wifi hotspot, or maybe ring up T-Mobile cust. services and ask :/

My Vario II also has lots of preconfigured wifi networks on it.
When I received the phone I did check the calls in/out and they were both 0 mins and the phone was immaculate (no scratches, fingerprints etc..) so I would be surprised if it was a return.
I have no idea if these wifi settings relate to free hotspots though or whether you would still have to buy a wifi key if you happened to be in range of one of them. I will give it a go next time I am in a larger town, where I live I don't think there are any public wifi hotspots.

I'm in Brum, so I'll go check it out (there's a T-Mobile hotspot in the bar just outside my uni building, which is actually a student bar too, so I'll have just go and have a couple of pints and investimagate

yeah, mine had all those preconfigured too. think it's standard.

christopherwoods said:
All calls: 27min, 30sec.
This about tallies with the amount of calls I've made (mainly to customer services to get stuff like HSDPA set up) and a query about my account, plus a call to my Dad and a couple of mates...
I did notice during the customisation process that there was a cab containing 'June 2006' in its filename... Here's my ROM and hw stats:
ROM: 1.21.110.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio: 1.05.05.00
Protocol ver: 32.36.7010.04H
My boot screen shows (in red)
M05
S04
B06
D1.21
at the lower left of the screen, and then my Radio and ROM versions show up fleetingly before the device shows the Windows Mobile splash screen. The device also had its protective screen cover on, which I had to peel off - and didn't look like the screen had been touched or used. Of course, they could clean it...
... I don't think this was a refurb though. Course, I could be wrong. I suppose I'll have to go find a wifi hotspot, or maybe ring up T-Mobile cust. services and ask :/
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Wow. Very interesting indeed. I'm glad to be wrong. I wonder what else you and the other guys have in your extended ROMs as this does indeed seem to be a part of Your ROM. Please let us know how you got on with the Hotspots investigation and beers.

My Vario2 came pre-loaded with eleventy million different wi-fi profiles and wondered about free hot-spot access myself but when I tried to access the hot spot at my local Starbucks it still asked me for a log on I'd & password - I tried the log on I have for My T-Mobile but it came back as invalid. My guess is you have to subscribe to hot spot access seperately.

I just noticed in my Programs list I have an Interactive menu (with the T Mobile logo superimposed over a picture of a SIM card)... Clicking it goes into an app called 'STK Service', which gives me an interactive menu.
I have the usual, Fun, Info, Music, Chat, Sports, Games, Text plus, Groups, Voicemail, t-zones (oh aye?) and Prepay topup...
So I click on t-zones, it shows a white screen with the text 't-zones' on it, and the soft keys turn into Yes and No. I click Yes, and it opens IE with a weird URL (all boxes, so in a character set I can't discern), then WM5 shows a dialog box with "Cannot connect with current connection settings. TO change your connection settings, tap Settings."
The plot thickens...

I have all of those access points as well. And mine is a brand new Vario II.

I emailed T-Mobile a while back asking this, and the other week I got a response:
Ross @ T-Mobile said:
Hi Christopher,
Thank you for your email about Wifi on your MDA.
The profiles on you phone are mostly T-Mobile related, there are some which are for T-Mobile in other countries, BT is also there as we have an agreement with them. The others are just large Wifi providers.
They are put on the phone just to make it easier for you to connect to them. They are not essential in any way to making your phone work and if you want to delete them it will not cause any problems.
I hope this answers your question, if you have any further queries please don't hesitate to contact us again.
Kind regards
RossT-Mobile
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Just a bit of preferential configuration on their part Only takes a minute to remove though, so it's ok.

I have the exact same pre-configured Wifi profiles on mine. I just deleted them.

me2

Yeah, I got a response a while back from T-Mobile - they are purely 'to help you connect to one of our hotspots more easily' for want of a better way of putting it.
I did a more custom install this time round when I got my replacement Hermes, and didn't install the CAB which sets up the access point SSIDs in the Wifi Network profiles... They now don't appear.
The TM rep confirmed that I didn't have access to the networks, they were just there as, effectively, shortcuts.

Not true
mackaby007 said:
Yeah, I've got an idea. It's 2nd hand or ex-display. considering no-one else has reported having these hot-spots pre-configured on their Vario2s, it seems logical or at least likely that the device has been used before.
i.e. returned under the 14 day guarantee that if not satisfied with the product, they'll take it back and squash the contract. look under 'device information' and then call duration. If the call duration exceeds your actual usage, then that prooves it. If however it matches your call usage (see you call history), then maybe just maybe, T-Mobile have introduced this to their extended ROM in newer devices, but I doubt it.
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Mine was brand new and sealed and came like this. There is another thread about it somewhere as I remember seeing it - it definately doesn;t mean it isn't new.

Totally brand-new Vario - and these (useful) profiles were included.
If you use BT's Total Broadband package (as I do) then you will have 500 free OpenZone minutes to use every month (something they do not advertise very much).

mackaby007 said:
Yeah, I've got an idea. It's 2nd hand or ex-display. considering no-one else has reported having these hot-spots pre-configured on their Vario2s, it seems logical or at least likely that the device has been used before.
i.e. returned under the 14 day guarantee that if not satisfied with the product, they'll take it back and squash the contract. look under 'device information' and then call duration. If the call duration exceeds your actual usage, then that prooves it. If however it matches your call usage (see you call history), then maybe just maybe, T-Mobile have introduced this to their extended ROM in newer devices, but I doubt it.
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No, it's so not true. I broke the security seal on the package. There was not a single finger mark or anything, you don't need to be a genius to tell if a phone is ex-display or 2nd hand.

Turn HSDPA mode off and "pure" 3G mode on

I've recently bought the HD2, former I ownt the TyTn II and th XDAII
Now I want to turn off the HSDPA data connection (The "H" icon appears in the taskbar) I only want to hav a "normal" 3G connection!
Can somebody help me to finnd the switch in the settings to do this!?
Cheers Chris

Why would you want to ruin your cellular data connection?

Connections > Advanced network...disable HSPA. Soft-reset.

Spike15 said:
Why would you want to ruin your cellular data connection?
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what he said...
why turn off the thing thats going to allow you to have much higher speeds?

spiderhider said:
what he said...
why turn off the thing thats going to allow you to have much higher speeds?
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1) If you're in an area with low to nonexistent HSPA, having it on will drain your battery immensely as it searches for signal as you're surfing.
2) Similar to #1, using EDGE or 3G will reduce battery consumption because data pulling will be less intensive.
3) if you're not doing a lot of streaming and only use your phone to read websites and/or update stock/weather/twitter/fb/etc, having it on EDGE or 3G produce similar results.
I can't believe I'm listing the options as to why the original poster would want to limit his data to just 3G, but I guess I shouldn't give too much credit to the kind of people who post on this forum.

HSDPA - isn't it working only under umts? I have EU HD2 - GSM model, should I turn it off permanently?

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HSDPA - isn't it working only under umts? I have EU HD2 - GSM model, should I turn it off permanently?
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uhh what? Do you have an "H" symbol on your HD2? If not, then there's nothing you should be worried about.

nor really an bump but
HSDPA is not very reliable once single levels get below 100/95dbm (or 2 bars some times 3 as it does not always update in real time)
other note if H is enabled the phone will waste time trying to connect to an H signal that's not there or mite just be in range but is not
on my HTC HD1 the phone works 95% of the time with UMTS basic 3g some calls are diverted, but with HSDPA it sucks more power and more of my phone calls get diverted on an daily basis (diverts to my other network phone when phone not connectible, not stating networks as its the phones Fault for connecting to an H or 3g when it should be on stepping down to 3g then 2g due to signal) norm as i use my phone for business use i leave the phone on 2g only so (my other phone that's an htc desire i norm do use the h on it as it tends to play nice and drop to 2g when it should normally)
any way my phone is not the issue as i have the benefit to disable H speed and use 3g (umts) on the htc hd1
i have the hd2 phone here right now but the phone keeps on insisting to stay on H when single levels are poor and resulting in txt'ing only working , forcing the phone onto 2g fix's the problem but norm 3g coverage is fine
is there any way to turn off H on the hd2 like the hd1 can or is there custom firmware that adds the option or adjusts it so its less aggressive

don't know why we are bringing this up from the dead, but I get great download speeds with only 1-2 bars of hspa (+). I can't see why I would want to turn that off.
And to the poster that says edge works fine for most things, most of my updates time out trying to update on edge.

nrfitchett4 said:
don't know why we are bringing this up from the dead, but I get great download speeds with only 1-2 bars of hspa (+). I can't see why I would want to turn that off.
And to the poster that says edge works fine for most things, most of my updates time out trying to update on edge.
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i hate edge.

the thread was never answered correctly (users posting on how good H is over 3g but from where i am its not so good as its turning the hd2/1 into an iphone 3 dropping calls wise when 3g/H is enabled) also turns the phone into an oven compared to umts mode and phone only lasts about an day with H enabled (2-3 days UMTS, 3-5 days 2g/GPRS depending on use)
3g?UMTS {most reliable for 3g} > HSDPA > HSUPA think there is an H+ as well for 7.5mb support
2g> gsm/gprs is king for keeping signal levels (EDGE unknown as I never get it but should be the same as GPRS) as there are more 2g towers then 3g or 3g/H towers, not cost affective to upgrade them all to 3g
one thing i not done yet is update the phones firmware as its still running on an 1-2 year old os this HD2 (uk t-mobile), the radio on it is 2.04 as well (my HD1 is 2 years or older) some one did post that it is in settings > adv network {was an older post that i found on google} that is missing on this currant HD2 phone i have
Most of the UK networks have not upgraded to edge around where I am so its GPRS or 3g/H

Some ROMs have the Advanced Network control panel applet in Settings/Connections where you can disable HSDPA and HSUPA.
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I believe the relevant registry setting is at registry key HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL - DisH (Where a value of 0 disables HSDPA/HSUPA, 1 enables HSDPA and 2 enable HSDPA/HSUPA, reboot needed)

That was very useful comment I try it when I get back home later on (should really update the firmware as well the HTC touch flow is quite unstable on it)

i dont know where the problem is.
start -> settings -> connections -> advanced network.
there u can choose "disable hsdpa / hsupa"
bling, u got no H anymore..
if u use sense, u have to go via the windows settings, u cant change that in sense settings tab i think

D4rkSoRRoW said:
i dont know where the problem is.
start -> settings -> connections -> advanced network.
there u can choose "disable hsdpa / hsupa"
bling, u got no H anymore..
if u use sense, u have to go via the windows settings, u cant change that in sense settings tab i think
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I know where it should be
It's not on this phone they removed the advanced network or never added it on this build on comes with the hd2 from t-mobile (phone has never been updated)

leexgx said:
I know where it should be
It's not on this phone they removed the advanced network or never added it on this build on comes with the hd2 from t-mobile (phone has never been updated)
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i would hate t-mobile for this.
so if ur not going to flash another rom, registry is probably really the only way

D4rkSoRRoW said:
i would hate t-mobile for this.
so if ur not going to flash another rom, registry is probably really the only way
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i have to ring him on his G1 phone, if i ring the HD2 i get 2 things that happen its not connect (5 secs then the peeps call not conencted) or he answers it and it disconnects after 2 seconds
mite flash the device i never done it my self so mite do it on my HD1 first as mine is running on winmobile 6.2
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i use an blackberry 8520 as an test at this time, was only £100 for it but i am missing the touch screen but like the idea of the 9800 having both screen and slide out pad but i prefer the windows phones input calendar points (hoping the win7 way be the same or like it)

that seems to have worked, did not seem to take it on the first reboot,was set to gsm only, set to auto was doing H still, still set to auto and powered down again and pulled the bat (prob did not need to) no h any more phone has constant 2-4 bars now on 3g (before 1-2 bar or drop call, on H if the phone was picked up 4 bars idle) can use phone and internet (was an fast call test was stable an clear not breaking up) should also stop it turning into an oven as well (as my HD1 does with H enabled), 3g is fine with opera as it has the turbo feature so web pages load fast still
give you rep if i could
i am not new to these forums but i have not done any messing with rom as my HTC HD1 one is currently just an unused PDA so i will have an go with it just need to look at the updating guides (need some class 6 sd cards as well all the ones i got are class 2 and are bit slow) if
once i have played with my hd1 i update the HD2 as that is an active phone (but needs updating on both phones as the default htc touch flow is an bit of an ram or cpu hog making the phone unstable, i disabled the touch flow on my hd1 as preventing phone call answer from working after 2-3 days as i needed it for business use but i like the default windows mobile layout anyway but i also like the htc layout when it works but must work all the time)

ARRHGGG internet sharing connection

how fast are you guys get from the tmobile internet option?
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please tell me what radios you guys are using to get such good 3G speed.

I curently run android on my leo and even tho i got h indicator in my area i barely can go above 1mb/s down. I didnt test it on windows tho.
I use stock tmo radio
Just did a test with a speedtest app
1.58 down
0.8 up.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

are you serious? how is it other phone can go up as far as 8MB and we can barely get 1?!

G1_enthusiast said:
are you serious? how is it other phone can go up as far as 8MB and we can barely get 1?!
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Hold on there. First, the android builds that can run on this phone are known to get slow 3G speeds no matter what, compared to what they should be in that location. nomadwgk would get a considerably higher speed if he was testing it through winmo.
Now, your speeds don't look right, if you're in a well-covered part of the DC area. This phone can indeed get speeds all the way up to the 7.2Mb limit, I've had mine test that fast once or twice here in bursts, but I usually get around 3-5Mb avg. So, there's something preventing your phone from getting the speeds it should.
Has it always been this slow since you first got it? How many bars are you seeing when you test it? What method are you using to test the speed exactly? This info will help us troubleshoot.

Plus, how strong of a signal did you have? From what I gather, a 4 bar signal will outperform a 2 bar signal.

i don't know how you guys get such a fast connection. every time i test it using dslreports i only get about 100-130 kbs. on a 400k test. and that's on a strong 3G connection in the middle of the city.
Its says my RR Turbo gives me 339 kbit/sec 1MB test. wifi connections on android, :::checking windows::::

ddgarcia05 said:
i don't know how you guys get such a fast connection. every time i test it using dslreports i only get about 100-130 kbs. on a 400k test. and that's on a strong 3G connection in the middle of the city.
Its says my RR Turbo gives me 339 kbit/sec 1MB test. wifi connections on android, :::checking windows::::
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There's a couple of factors at play here...first, you'll probably want to test with another site that uses a larger test file. I recommend www.speakeasy.net/speedtest...it works in IE but not opera, but it's the best mobile test site I've found.
Second, I learned from a T-Mobile engineer recently that the HSDPA speeds are actually dynamic, and load-dependent. In other words, the higher speeds won't fully kick in until you're transferring a larger amount of data at once...otherwise you'll get regular 3G speeds (or less) while just pushing a small amount of data (like weather updates, etc). So, you may not be able to measure the full speed you can get, until you're transferring a large enough file. That site I mentioned above seems to use a big enuogh test file to get full-speed results from the network.

Same problem
i live in vegas by the strip so OF course its gunna be good service,
I have 4 bars on "H" some times it will change to "3g" but it will still have 4bars... and my internet speed is like not even close to a MB, i took your advice about higher file transfer so i hooked up my xbox to my internet through my phone it worked, but it was really SLOW!
how can i fix the internet speed.

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Hold on there. First, the android builds that can run on this phone are known to get slow 3G speeds no matter what, compared to what they should be in that location. nomadwgk would get a considerably higher speed if he was testing it through winmo.
Now, your speeds don't look right, if you're in a well-covered part of the DC area. This phone can indeed get speeds all the way up to the 7.2Mb limit, I've had mine test that fast once or twice here in bursts, but I usually get around 3-5Mb avg. So, there's something preventing your phone from getting the speeds it should.
Has it always been this slow since you first got it? How many bars are you seeing when you test it? What method are you using to test the speed exactly? This info will help us troubleshoot.
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i'm not using android OS man i'm using the latest energy rom, you got any good radio to reccomend me? i'm using 2.12.50.02 radio and constantly getting that H instead of 3G wth and its about 4 H bar most of the time but sometimes 3G coming in and out.

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There's a couple of factors at play here...first, you'll probably want to test with another site that uses a larger test file. I recommend www.speakeasy.net/speedtest...it works in IE but not opera, but it's the best mobile test site I've found.
Second, I learned from a T-Mobile engineer recently that the HSDPA speeds are actually dynamic, and load-dependent. In other words, the higher speeds won't fully kick in until you're transferring a larger amount of data at once...otherwise you'll get regular 3G speeds (or less) while just pushing a small amount of data (like weather updates, etc). So, you may not be able to measure the full speed you can get, until you're transferring a large enough file. That site I mentioned above seems to use a big enuogh test file to get full-speed results from the network.
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try ur site i'm getting .65Mbps down and .71 up

G1_enthusiast said:
i'm not using android OS man i'm using the latest energy rom, you got any good radio to reccomend me? i'm using 2.12.50.02 radio and constantly getting that H instead of 3G wth and its about 4 H bar most of the time but sometimes 3G coming in and out.
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I didn't assume you were using android, I was just letting you know his results definitely weren't indicative of what the phone is capable of.
I use the radio you'll see in my signature below, it may make a difference, I don't know...it's the only one I've ever used on this phone.
You might want to double-check these three things:
1) Go to settings (WM settings, not Sense settings), and in the "connections" folder, choose "advanced network". Make sure "Enable HSDPA/HSUPA" is selected on the first tab there.
2) Also in the connections folder, choose the "connections" icon. Choose "manage existing connections" under the "T-Mobile Data" heading. On the "Modem" tab, make sure the T-Mobile Data connection shows "epc.tmobile.com" under the "Number" header.
3) On the Proxy Settings tab there, make sure "This network uses a proxy server..." is unchecked.

[Q] mobile network connection failed on wcdma, but works on gsm only

hey all, i've been a longtime lurker of the xda forums and always appreciated the fantastic work everyone here does. i searched the forums for this problem but saw many discontinued threads with no answer which is why I'm bringing it up (apologies if i wasn't thorough enough) .I was running the latest iced glacier rom 1.1.6, i checked that thread but found nobody with the same problem, making me think it was most likely my mistake and not a glitch in the rom. i was running wifi all day so i didn't notice until tonight that i can't connect to the mobile network when set at the "auto gsm/wcdma" and "wcdma only" setting, and only connects to "gsm only". its only when i connect to "gsm only", turn on mobile network and then go to the settings and select "auto gsm/wcdma" that it will connect me to 3g data . everything else gets me a "connection failed". I punched in the APN to no avail. I'm glad i found the way around the problem but I'd rather not have the problem at all. i did a factory reset and put the APN again to make sure, but still the same problem. does anyone have some insight into this problem and can help me? much appreciated
tl;dr HDSPA connection attempts fail, only Edge works

marky310 said:
hey all, i've been a longtime lurker of the xda forums and always appreciated the fantastic work everyone here does. i searched the forums for this problem but saw many discontinued threads with no answer which is why I'm bringing it up (apologies if i wasn't thorough enough) .I was running the latest iced glacier rom 1.1.6, i checked that thread but found nobody with the same problem, making me think it was most likely my mistake and not a glitch in the rom. i was running wifi all day so i didn't notice until tonight that i can't connect to the mobile network when set at the "auto gsm/wcdma" and "wcdma only" setting, and only connects to "gsm only". its only when i connect to "gsm only", turn on mobile network and then go to the settings and select "auto gsm/wcdma" that it will connect me to 3g data . everything else gets me a "connection failed". I punched in the APN to no avail. I'm glad i found the way around the problem but I'd rather not have the problem at all. i did a factory reset and put the APN again to make sure, but still the same problem. does anyone have some insight into this problem and can help me? much appreciated
tl;dr HDSPA connection attempts fail, only Edge works
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Hmm weird. Same thing happened to me today but it happened to me a different way. I was running CM Nightlys Build #3 and decided to do a nandroid that was from 2.x. After doing that Nandroid i ended up getting into a bootloop. So i figure okay, i'll just wipe everything and reflash CM since it was in my internal SD. Everything booted up fine but then i had no access to my data. Couldnt even connect to wifi. I then tried to go back to stock by installing the Pd5.img thats in the develop. forum and it returned me back to stock fine. Now my Wifi works but the data on my phone is still broken. I try to check and uncheck the Mobile Network and it just keeps saying Connection Failed. What do i do?

surfnhawaii808 said:
This is weird but I must live between several towers because I have a solid 2-3 bar H signal but my phone will drop to E aka edge at times and phone download speed takes a nose dive.... however if I change phone settings to connect only to wcdma the speed stays constant and super fast...
I have only noticed this happening at my home and no place else....
Anyone else ran into this?!
Aloha from Hawaii
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Aloha from Hawaii!
Aloha from Hawaii!

aloha guys. well i woke up today and my mobile data could connect fine. i'm thinking since i was messing around with my phone at the time of this supposed outtage, it tricked me into thinking i messed something up. 651stp, did your problem go away as well? i feel kinda dumb now cuz i wiped my phone clean, s-on and everything, and it still wasnt working and give it a night of sleep and now its fixed but i'm gonna have to set my phone up again. ah well...
aloha

marky310 said:
aloha guys. well i woke up today and my mobile data could connect fine. i'm thinking since i was messing around with my phone at the time of this supposed outtage, it tricked me into thinking i messed something up. 651stp, did your problem go away as well? i feel kinda dumb now cuz i wiped my phone clean, s-on and everything, and it still wasnt working and give it a night of sleep and now its fixed but i'm gonna have to set my phone up again. ah well...
aloha
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yes, my phone connected to data today LOL. damn that sux, i stayed up an extra 3 hours till 8am when i only usually stay up till 5am. almost made me late for work lol. data connects fine now but s is still on. maybe i'll re-root and then retry it to take it off. i need to return the phone and buy it elsewhere for cheaper.

I have been having the same problems even after changing out the phone. I believe it to be a problem with the software that runs the radio or the radio itself. It switches to different bands on it's own. I hope someone can address this with HTC or T-Mobile or both...

Why do you all quote the entire previous posts? It's obvious who you're replying to, so what's the point of that?
Anyway, I have somewhat of a similar problem, but haven't spent time trying to track the cause.. It might be related to wifi or maybe not, but at some random time after turning off my wifi, I will lose complete mobile network connectivity. No data will download or upload at all, until I reset my phone which seems to be the only way of fixing the problem.
I'm running Iced Glacier 1.1.5.1

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You know, now that you mention it, I dont know why.
Just kidding! Dont beat me up!
Anyways, as far as my phone goes, its gone all day with no problem. Re rooted and restored so im 100. Never doubt that your local t mobile signal could be going through some maintenance.
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Location, Mobile Networks, GSM vs WCDMA, etc.
I was about to post a new topic on this, but the nifty little Ajax monkey robot showed me this thread matched my keywords.
So I'm one of those d-bags that uses Facebook Places (Check-in). Not a lot and I don't frickin' check-in everywhere I go. I hate it when people do that. (Thanks for letting all of Facebook know you're not at home, so we can go break-in to your house.) I do use it though, as well as Yelp.
While I'm out, I'll go to check-in and it just spins its wheels - i.e. no Places load. I can be outside, clear sky and have GPS enabled and it still can't find my location. I noticed the same with Yelp, but Yelp actually errors out and tells me it cannot determine my location and prompts to go to my Location settings. Even with GPS enabled, Yelp still cannot determine my location. I noticed this here in Orlando/Longwood, FL and all the way down and through Ft. Lauderdale.
Obviously, if I enable WiFi my location can be determined instantly - e.g. Facebook Places finds it, Yelp finds it, etc. I'm not on WiFi all the time, so I don't really want to only be able to check-in at home.
I checked my APN and it has't been touched, it's at the default. I am on Ice Glacier, so I was willing to believe something could be different, but APN is correct. I also checked my stock ROM (Nandroid backup) AND my fiancee's phone, which is running stock (rooted).
I'm thinking it's got to be something to do with how my/our device(s) are registered on the network. So I look at the Network Mode and notice the default on my/my fiancee's phone is GSM/WCDMA Auto.
Just for giggles, I decided to knock it down to GSM Only. The radio restarts and then no H comes back - only Edge. I'm not just talking about the icon, I'm talking about the actual speed. Here's the cool part - once I went down to Edge (forced by being on GSM Only), guess what? Locations work perfectly now. Albeit a bit slower, but Facebook Places loads Check-ins immediately and Yelp is able to find my location now.
If I switch back to the original setting, the radio restarts, I get H back and for anywhere between a few minutes to a few hours, my location can be found. After a bit of time, I'm back to the same boat - location cannot be determined by mobile network.
I tried this on my ROM, my stock ROM and my fiancee's MT4G running stock - I can reproduce this 100% of the time.
I figured next, I'd try WCDMA Only...
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To my surprise, location works perfectly now, 100% of the time. I switched to WCDMA Only last night and I have been able to use any/all apps that determine location by mobile network.
I will record a video of this, as again, it is 100% reproducible on multiple MT4G's and various ROMs. Our signal strength and network speeds in this area are amazing (Orlando/Longwood, FL). I consistently get 7-9 mbps down and never go below 6. My battery life is fantastic, as my radio is never switching between network types (note: In other cities, like in south Florida, battery can die super quickly because it's constantly jumping from Edge to H and back again).
Even better, when I use the Speedtest app, my server list no longer only has Atlanta or Washington, D.C. as my closest servers. I now have a ton of servers here in Florida, out by the coast, etc.
So there's my brain dump for now. I am not saying I have a fix, but I am saying there is definitely an issue w/ how these devices are registered on the network. I'm not saying I should be on WCDMA Only either, but I can say that in our area, my connection is perfect and now I have no issues with location via mobile network.
What the heck could the issue be? Why wouldn't the device be able to be found on the network when on GSM/WCDMA Auto? Edge does location flawlessly (when forced via GSM Only) and WCDMA Only does location flawlessly as well.
I'll do my best to record the video this weekend and show this top to bottom, but I figured I'd share what I could to see if A) this would help anyone with this issue and B) to see if anyone could shed any light on all of this.

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Did you resolve the issue? I'm having the same problem.

mine works fine on cm7 and set to GSM/WCDMA Auto. It might be the towers in the area, call TMO support and tell them your problem and your fix. They'll send a tech out there to check the tower

That's exactly what I was thinking, but I wanted to see others' opinions.
I'll let ya know what TMO says...
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Its the towers. I am returning my mytouch today. Already switched to Verizon
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USA, packet data reception issues on AT&T :(

OK I am giving up. My first ever complain thread related to any phone I ever owned.
The 3g/4g reception on SGS2 - am I the only one with a not acceptable reception on AT&T in the States, New York City in particular?
I used to have the Captivate, and at work I would always get bad reception: it would show a bar or two or 3, but it would ALWAYS stick with that and stay on the data network. So basically speed would go down, but the connection would still be present, if I am downloading something.
My Captivate was stolen. So a month or two later I buy the SGS2.
It seems the same at first - not ideal data connection.
But now I am noticing a very annoying thing. The phone would constantly switch like crazy between E, 3G, H, H+, and would sometimes DROP data connection altogether. When it drops the connection I have to either reboot it, and it comes back on H+, or I have to put it on the window sill where the signal is better, and then the signal will get reacquired in about 5-10 minutes (not immediately).
What is wrong?
I have the latest firmware from last night (the problem existed before too).
The phone is not rooted, and has minimal apps installed. Only gmail is set to push, plus the default widgets. I did try factory reset 2 days ago.

I'm not certain with this phone but I have owned several that once they lose the data connection and cant find it for a set time they stop looking for a period of time before recommencing a new search. This to save battery. While it doesnt speak to your problem directly I live in a low signal 3g area and I actually get better speed by switching to edge only than I do on 3g and without the hassle of it constantly losing its signal and then switching to edge, back to 3g, etc. Another thought is that it does not have to be your phone, it could be a tower issue.

its possible that since the SGS2 antenna is located on the bottom back left of the device, this time you are experiencing worse signal attenuation from your hand blocking the antenna. have you tried sitting the phone on the desk or table and see if it is any more stable? if so then you may have to learn to hold the phone with the antenna exposed away from your hand.
if none of that works, then i dunno...

I am ALWAYS placing the phone on wooden desk when I test connectivity
I agree that it may be disconnecting and waiting for longer time , to save time, I am just curious why my old Captivate did not do the same thing and worked my better in terms of reception.
I ALWAYS could rely on 3g on the Captivate.
Now with my SGS2 on my desk, I look at it and it shows no data, and the emails are not synched, etc.
Extremely annoying.

ok so now i noticed more people are facing this problem. i am wondering if this is a hardware or software fault.
look at my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073958
regards,

Same here....Data network absolutely is rubbish and I live in the middle of a large City!!
I get disconnections, slow or broken downloads, network errors and constantly changing from H, 3G, E, G. Seriously its like going back to WAP! its unusable i cant even check e-mail reliably unless im on WiFI thank good im on BT broadnband with its FON & Hotspots.
I.m on Orange in the uK, Ive flashed to KE1 but not KE2 because that has problems with Orange...grrrrr I was on O2 before on an iphone at it was reliable at least. I am just going to put mu orange Sim in my ipone to see how it goes......
Spoiling the love of this otherwise fabulous phone.

Hmm it's odd
my phone isn't connecting to the data service either. Are you on medianet or smartphone plan? Also one of my co-worker's iphone isn't connecting either but another one did barely hitting 1mbit. Anyone else from nyc having issues with data service?
I just rebooted my phone for the first time ever and it's showing servers in kansas as the closest server for speedtest.

I'm in NYC and have had not so ideal connections the past couple days. It was fine last week. Now when I run the speedtest app, I get spikes in the packet speeds (like Dirac functions) and the results are always inconsistent
i just ran the speedtest and the server was in Sayreville, NJ

i am having the exact same issue..at least yours keeps switching the band..on mine..once it looses 3g it wont even switch to edge..just disconnects the data connection..until i reboot or cycle thru the flight mode.if i force it on gsm only than the data connection is solid on edge..but whats the point..i need a fast data connection...and this is the most important thing that i need on a phone..good and fast data connection..for voip and other apps.my previous phone, desire hd does this band switching smoothly and does not loose data connection.
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iznee said:
i am having the exact same issue..at least yours keeps switching the band..on mine..once it looses 3g it wont even switch to edge..just disconnects the data connection..until i reboot or cycle thru the flight mode.if i force it on gsm only than the data connection is solid on edge..but whats the point..i need a fast data connection...and this is the most important thing that i need on a phone..good and fast data connection..for voip and other apps.my previous phone, desire hd does this band switching smoothly and does not loose data connection.
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It did it smoothly on mine until today.
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First, one of the advantages of an international non-branded phone is the lack of carrier modifications and crapware. The downside is the radio is also not optimized for a specific carrier's network. That's the answer to the different behavior between the Captivate and SGS2.
Second, New York's the worst possible market to comment on AT&T's network performance. The problems and congestion they have there are legend. Also, if they're working on the network (EG: upgrading more back haul) you're going to get funky performance while they're doing it.
Third, my Arabian friends, this has nothing to do with the issues a handful of you are having.
I'm in a smaller market with little congestion and mine phone works flawlessly and consistently. Like everyone else, my phone drops from H/H+ when no data's being transmitted but kicks back in instantly when needed.

Just hit 5424kbps/1254kbps on Speedtest using a local server. Could it be a regional issue in NY?

well a wonderful thing happened today.
people were calling me all day on the office number and asking "why do not you pick up your cell?"
I look at the cell , see 5 full bars on it and think to myself that they must have dialed a wrong number by accident.
Eventually I get suspicious, and dial my cell from my office phone - sure enough, it goes to voice mail after about 6 tones.
I had 5 bars on the phone. I then tried walking close to my office window, and even went downstairs and outside of the building. Still 5 bars, but can't reach that number. And when I tried calling FROM sgs2, it would just say "dialing" and then "call ended" after about 30 seconds of silence.
It took a phone reboot to properly get on the network.

kreoXDA said:
well a wonderful thing happened today.
people were calling me all day on the office number and asking "why do not you pick up your cell?"
I look at the cell , see 5 full bars on it and think to myself that they must have dialed a wrong number by accident.
Eventually I get suspicious, and dial my cell from my office phone - sure enough, it goes to voice mail after about 6 tones.
I had 5 bars on the phone. I then tried walking close to my office window, and even went downstairs and outside of the building. Still 5 bars, but can't reach that number. And when I tried calling FROM sgs2, it would just say "dialing" and then "call ended" after about 30 seconds of silence.
It took a phone reboot to properly get on the network.
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Odd.
One of my co-worker said he had called me in the morning to see what i wanted for breakfast but i didn't pick up. Unless i received the call while i was in the elevator, i would have noticed the call. It didn't have a missed call notification or show up in the log.
Also i was able to use the phone during the day without a reboot.

I just reran the tests, it looks like my speeds are back to norm.
Just clocked in 4.38, 3.86, 4.7 and 5.75 down and 1.41,.97, 1.26, and 1.45 up. For those of you in nyc, run your tests again and see if it works

kreoXDA said:
well a wonderful thing happened today.
people were calling me all day on the office number and asking "why do not you pick up your cell?"
I look at the cell , see 5 full bars on it and think to myself that they must have dialed a wrong number by accident.
Eventually I get suspicious, and dial my cell from my office phone - sure enough, it goes to voice mail after about 6 tones.
I had 5 bars on the phone. I then tried walking close to my office window, and even went downstairs and outside of the building. Still 5 bars, but can't reach that number. And when I tried calling FROM sgs2, it would just say "dialing" and then "call ended" after about 30 seconds of silence.
It took a phone reboot to properly get on the network.
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Have you tried forcing 1900 or 850 to see if that helps? I'm near Scranton, Wilkes-Barre, Hazleton in Pa, and 1900 does have a much faster ping and more bars, but 850 is generally faster and more reliable. In my particular case of course.

As further support of data being dormant on purpose, the Music Hub just popped up a dialog when I launched it that said "Activate data? Charges may apply." I get to NYC pretty frequently, you guys are really making me look forward to it.

rwj5279955 said:
Have you tried forcing 1900 or 850 to see if that helps? I'm near Scranton, Wilkes-Barre, Hazleton in Pa, and 1900 does have a much faster ping and more bars, but 850 is generally faster and more reliable. In my particular case of course.
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I have not yet. I admit I panicked and bounced the phone Thought the phone just self destructed inside or something - never ever have I had a problem like this on AT&T in NYC in my 15 years with AT&T.
I can vouch this also never happened with my Captivate that I got on its release day.
Next time this happens I will try forcing bands.

kreoXDA said:
I have not yet. I admit I panicked and bounced the phone Thought the phone just self destructed inside or something - never ever have I had a problem like this on AT&T in NYC in my 15 years with AT&T.
I can vouch this also never happened with my Captivate that I got on its release day.
Next time this happens I will try forcing bands.
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i've had a few instances of network connectivity issues with my captivate where i couldn't connect. That could have been from the custom rom. Now my buddy swears that he gets barely any network connection at his apartment
Anyways i'm getting much better network performance now. Even better than before
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I spent the majority of the day today in NYC and definitely experienced this, I actually tore through my battery completely bc of the lack of consistency with data connection. I even gave up checking xda.
I cannot wait till we have different modems to test!