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Does it cover voip? P2P, teethering etc...
And most of all? How does your provider regulate this? Is it simply blocked? Possible but charged extra? Just possible and no questions asked?
not 100% sure but i know my plan has unlimated internet and txt and such..but when it comes to the internet i think there is a bandwith cap monthly so it really isnt unlimited...still not 100% sure...
tulamidan said:
Does it cover voip? P2P, teethering etc...
And most of all? How does your provider regulate this? Is it simply blocked? Possible but charged extra? Just possible and no questions asked?
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Are you looking to switch providers for a better plan or something?
T-Mo caps speed after 10gb bandwidth used, but doesn't cap general internet usage. My plan provides 400 texts, others have unlimited, but now the internet and messaging plans are separate (grr for greediness!).
Not sure on their official stance on tethering (I'd assume a 'no' on the allowed and possible questions), but a rooted phone would probably be able to tether anyways, as long as it doesn't breach the 10 gig roof. If you do that too often, I'm sure they'd probably catch you.
I wouldn't waste money on a data plan -- free wifi is available everywhere.
The greatest benefit of having a data plan. It always works, you don't have to use any workarounds and then do another workaround when that loophole closes. I didn't have a data plan on my last WM plan and I spent more time trying to find wifi or waiting to get somewhere with wifi than it was worth. Granted the data plan is slightly pricey it is worth it. Many widgets/apps are so internet connected it makes for a seamless setup.
My data plan covers nuclear apocolypse, 2012, chuck norris' roundhouse kick, and aids. I doubt they can tell your tethering unless you do some mega down/uploading.
lbcoder said:
I wouldn't waste money on a data plan -- free wifi is available everywhere.
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For someone who lives in a massive urban area, that's fine.
For others, in the suburbs or further out, wifi is more scarce and sometimes useless (aka, requires payment), and the dataplan gives you the reliability.
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free wifi is available everywhere.
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Hyperbole?
As per android Centrals Findings today,
According to the memo, the data tiers for 4G are the same as the 3G plans, namely $15 for each 200 MB or 2 GB for $25.00 (with $10 per GB overage). This means unlimited data in no longer an option, because you will have to change plans. We have no idea how this will affect customers with unlimited data grandfathered in who buy a phone off-contract and just drop their SIM card in, but I would imagine AT&T can tell with a little bit of auditing.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/atts-4g-policies-revealed?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidcentral+%28Android+Central%29&utm_content=Twitter
Nevermind, corrected
We can keep our existing plans and be grandfathered in.
Originally Posted by corneliusm
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-cl...heir-4g-policy
Lol @ AT&T. Instead of attracting customers after losing the iPhone, they scare off existing ones. First $500 for Atrix dock, now the stupidly overprives $25/2GB data.
And that after the first Atrix reviews that showed that AT&T's "4G" is actually slower than their 3G. Oh yeah, awesome upgrade.
Rephrasing the famous phrase.. "Enough is enough. I've HAD IT with these MOTHERF***ING policies on this MOTHERF***ING AT&T."
So far it's either VZW or TMo for me. Since I travel a lot, most likely TMo with their unlim data plan, when Pyramid comes out.
i've been in contact with at&t.
they have stated that i can bring my grandfathered unlimited data plan over along with a new 2 year contact agreement if i decide to get the atrix.
if i want to tether, i would need to change my data plan.
this is from an online chat. and who knows, maybe this policy will change in the upcoming days.
i have seen this mentioned on a number of other forums. apparently grandfathered plans are fine.
so nothing really changes...
Androidandme is reporting (I'd link directly, but can't do it yet) that an AT&T rep has contacted them to clarify the 4G policy:
We were just contacted by a representative from AT&T who saw our post about the leaked 4G policy memo, and wanted to clarify a very important point about their new 4G plans. I quote:
Customers who currently have an unlimited plan can upgrade to a 4G device and keep their unlimited plans.
They did not dispute the validity of the leaked memo, but they were kind enough to tell us a part of the story that the original leak missed. So put away those pitchforks. Thanks for the clarification AT&T!
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So, yeah: no need to panic.
I wasn't lucky enough to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan. I currently have the $15 200mb for my Samsung Captivate. Assuming I upgrade to the Atrix, am I going to have to pay an additional $15 to get 200mb of 4g, making the total for data $30 for 400mbs?
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Androidandme is reporting (I'd link directly, but can't do it yet) that an AT&T rep has contacted them to clarify the 4G policy:
So, yeah: no need to panic.
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Thats if you had the unlimited data before, not all of us do...
degenerazn said:
I wasn't lucky enough to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan. I currently have the $15 200mb for my Samsung Captivate. Assuming I upgrade to the Atrix, am I going to have to pay an additional $15 to get 200mb of 4g, making the total for data $30 for 400mbs?
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No. Your plan will remain unchanged.
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Thats if you had the unlimited data before, not all of us do...
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Right you are. Unfortunately, AT&T eliminated the unlimited plan a long time ago; really, I'm surprised the new 4G policy isn't going to kick out everyone who still has it.
If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
Appears we may have jumped the gun...
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy
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You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy
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Yeah saw this on my twitter at the gym, was gonna update it but you beat me to it.
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If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
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I couldn't agree more! I'm so glad that I overpaid for unlimited back when I didn't use much data. Still, $90/mo for two lines of unlimited data and unlimited messaging is a lot, so glad that AT&T announced unlimited mobile to mobile so I can drop my minutes!
I'm never leaving AT&T until another carrier gets real unlimited data. Good things cell execs underestimated how much data we can use!
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No. Your plan will remain unchanged.
Right you are. Unfortunately, AT&T eliminated the unlimited plan a long time ago; really, I'm surprised the new 4G policy isn't going to kick out everyone who still has it.
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I've been grandfathered in on the unlimited plan for quite some time now. When I got my Captivate last July, the sales rep tried to convince me I HAD to change my data plan to the new pricing scheme. Thankfully, it ain't happen.
Even if you went somewhere else, almost all the operators are moving to this type of plan.
2Gigs of data is quite alot, unless you are using it for your main internet connection for your house. I've been on the 2Gig plan for about a year now, and I rarely go above 600-700 meg with lots of audio streaming (sirius/xm, pandora) and Uverse TV to go, and some tethering from time to time.
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If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
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werd
i was ready to pay ETF and get the F out of ATT after i saw the original leaked memo
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Even if you went somewhere else, almost all the operators are moving to this type of plan.
2Gigs of data is quite alot, unless you are using it for your main internet connection for your house. I've been on the 2Gig plan for about a year now, and I rarely go above 600-700 meg with lots of audio streaming (sirius/xm, pandora) and Uverse TV to go, and some tethering from time to time.
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t-mobile & verizon throttles you, you can get around it on t mobile
sprint is still unlimited
2GB is not alot, how you use it is your problem, while the rest of us that has the unlimited, pay *more* ($30 vs $25) and being loyal to ATT, we want to get what we are ENTITLED to
Does "an unlimited plan" refer to a smart phone unlimited or any unlimited?
Because, I have a regular unlimited plan for $10 a month, and would like to keep it lol.
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Does "an unlimited plan" refer to a smart phone unlimited or any unlimited?
Because, I have a regular unlimited plan for $10 a month, and would like to keep it lol.
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Negative. Featurephone/dumbphone unlimited data doesn't transfer over to smartphones. The only way I could see to get around that is to buy a phone off contract and pop your SIM card in it. You'd probably have to hack the phone to have it report as something else, though, otherwise ATT would catch it.
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When T-mobile's HTC Pyramid is out....I'll defiantly switch to T-mobile!!!!
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Negative. Featurephone/dumbphone unlimited data doesn't transfer over to smartphones. The only way I could see to get around that is to buy a phone off contract and pop your SIM card in it. You'd probably have to hack the phone to have it report as something else, though, otherwise ATT would catch it.
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you can buy a phone not in att device databse and they will not know unless you tell them that is any decice that they dont sell
yuck
Verizon Wireless (NYSE:VZ) plans to eliminate the $30 per month unlimited data plan that it still provides to 3G customers who were "grandfathered" into the plan because they were data customers prior to the company's switch to tiered data pricing last July. Speaking at the 40th J.P. Morgan Technology, Media and Telecom conference, Verizon Communications CFO Fran Shammo said that as these 3G unlimited data plan customers migrate to 4G LTE, they will have to purchase the company's data-share plan (which Verizon plans to launch in mid-summer) and move off the $30 per month unlimited data plan. "Everyone will be on data share," Shammo said.
Verizon's data share plan is scheduled to launch in mid-summer but no pricing details have been announced. Shammo said that he believes this new plan will make it easier for families and small businesses to connect multiple devices. The industry, Shammo said, has constrained the market around connected devices because people think they need an additional data plan. "If I can add as many devices as I want, that is more efficient from a family perspective and a small business perspective," he said.
However, Shammo said that with the launch of this new data share plan, the industry will have to change a key metric--average revenue per user. Shammo said that Verizon will move to a "revenue per account" metric that will more accurately measure the company's business.
When asked how Verizon will drive customers to this new data share plan, Shammo said that LTE will be the anchor for the new plan and that as customers upgrade from 3G to LTE, they will have to be on a data share plan, allowing the company to sunset its unlimited 3G data plan. "A lot of our 3G base is on unlimited," Shammo said. "When they migrate off 3G they will have to go to data share. That is beneficial to us."
Read more: Verizon will kill 'grandfathered' unlimited data plans, push users to data share - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/...are/2012-05-16
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May 17th update from Verizon
Yesterday, Verizon Wireless CMO Fran Shammo caused quite a ruckus when he stated that users on grandfathered unlimited data plans would eventually be moved over to the carrier's new data share plans that are due to arrive this summer. Verizon has now clarified exactly how this will happen, and it really only matters if plan to get a new subsidized device.
In a statement provided to The New York Times, Verizon clarified that unlimited plans will no longer be an option for customers that upgrade their device once the new data share plans are available. Prior to this, customers that had unlimited data plans were able to continue to use them even if they upgraded their devices.
The full statement is as follows:
"- Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so.
- When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing.
- Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.
- The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones."
So that makes it pretty cut and dry. If you are a Verizon customer and you upgrade your smartphone after the new data share plans are released, you can kiss your unlimited data plan good bye. If you happen to still have an unlimited data plan and are eligible for an upgrade now, you might want to use it sooner rather than later.
source: Verizon Wireless,
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Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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Did you get your account rebuilt ? cause your problems are not phone related
I did get it fixed after I reported them to the BBB and FCC on the same day. The issue's I had with the first phone were phone related, but the 2nd one is fine. I really don't know what they did, but they fixed it. Speeds were I live are really starting to suck, but are not under 3mbs so it's not all that bad. AT&T's H+ has hung in there well even with 109GB of use one time.
Any way I jumped in knowing this would likely be the case by the time I renewed. My bud that work's for them has hinted to me they would do this. ( I was sure he was right this time, but only the top dogs can do this.)
I was hoping to drop my AT&T phone at some point, but it look's like the black hole has come back.
To all on the unlimited plan's good luck and for your sake and mine by the way I hope this will not pass.
So should I buy a lte phone before they make the change and still get unlimited data for another 2 years our until I upgrade that?
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I would say if you need your unlimited plan, do it now/soon and you may be saved from the 2GB plan. I use the word MAY, becuase I have a fealing they may ax it for 4G users as well.
Only reason I went with verizon was for the gnexus and since sprint has it now when they do the switch I'll just go back to them *shudders* Horrible customer support
Don't think so I'm contracted and grandfathered in me and Verizon are gonna have a little talk
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Might have to look at Sprint, T-Mobile or AT&T on a media net plan. I pay $30 a month for unlimited now and rarely go over 2gigs because I use wifi so often, but as someone else mentioned on droidforums VZ keeps pushing new data-heavy apps like Netflix, touting how quickly you can download movies and music, etc. Google Music, Pandora, etc have excellent streaming, and HBO GO and other network apps are offering great shows and movies right on devices and 2GB/$30 a month is supposed to get it done? And f'ing $50 for 5GB?
Unlimited data was without question the main thing holding me to VZ, and while I can't deny that they have the best overall coverage as well AT&T is pretty good for voice and holy hell if every network but Verizon don't get the best phones. No HTC One on VZ most likely, never got the Galaxy SII in any variant, the Rezound was the only last run of HTCs of note that ever showed up, no decent Sonys. They're trying to shove Moto down our throats with increasing difficulty in unlocking the bootloaders and now this? Thanks Verizon, at least now my options are wide open.
Forgive me if my rant became incoherent at some point. My apologies to all.
Hopefully this does not apply to 4g phones. I will have to root a free 4g phone to replace my incredible 2
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Its a smaller carrier that rents network usage from bigger companies, often having plans at lower prices.
4ktvs said:
Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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If that happens I'm switching to sprint they are going to have LTE in my area by the end if 2012
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I will switch back to AT&T if this happens
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http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-cfo-fran-shammo-bring-back-the-unlimited-data-plan
If at&t does this I will drop them. Unlimited LTE data is why I stick with them. Even then $65 a month for the lowest talk plan, unlimited LTE data, and only 200 regular text messages is stiff. You eliminate that unlimited data and switch me to 3gb for $30 and there is no point continuing.
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http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-cfo-fran-shammo-bring-back-the-unlimited-data-plan
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Signed thanks
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sitizenx said:
If at&t does this I will drop them. Unlimited LTE data is why I stick with them. Even then $65 a month for the lowest talk plan, unlimited LTE data, and only 200 regular text messages is stiff. You eliminate that unlimited data and switch me to 3gb for $30 and there is no point continuing.
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I spend 170 on my plan which is crazy and my moms side of the family spent 250 on 4 phones a month
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I've got 5 lines with them they take my unlimited Im gone
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Five lines four with smartphones on unlimited. My bill is 305...if my unlimited is taken, I will cancel them all. Go to Sprint, or to flip phones
but never Verizon again
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Anyone on here on the Framily Plan by Sprint? I'm currently on the One Up Program, and with its Unlimited, I get unlimited roaming(in the US). Does the Framily Plan have that too, or no?
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Anyone on here on the Framily Plan by Sprint? I'm currently on the One Up Program, and with its Unlimited, I get unlimited roaming(in the US). Does the Framily Plan have that too, or no?
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No, In the fine print of the TOS it states ,"Sprint may terminate service if off-network roaming usage exceeds (1) 800 minutes or the majority of minutes; or (2) 100MB or a majority of KB."
One thing I do not know is if this also applies to any lines that you have setup as unlimited, since the TOS doesn't really mention anything about them that I can see. The Unlimited option is supposed to remove not only the data limits, but also give you a yearly upgrade as well as remove the prioritized bandwidth and video streaming limits. If I remember I'll try and call tomorrow and ask, as that's a good question.
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In looking closer at the info that came with the Framily plan I see now that even the unlimited option is limited as far as roaming goes.. On another page it states, "Unlimited features are while on the Sprint network. Off-network roaming is limited to" with the same limits listed above.
Hi, have a quick question. I am on a simply everything plan at sprint for 70 bucks a month. But they check if I use the unlimited data with my hotspot. If I tether they limit the data to 3 GB a month and charge if I get over that. Is there a way to get around that?
I don't pay for hotspot but use it uncontrollably... With Sprint. I've been doing it for years without any issues. Paying the phone bill is my only problem... LOL.
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I don't pay for hotspot but use it uncontrollably... With Sprint. I've been doing it for years without any issues. Paying the phone bill is my only problem... LOL.
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yes I know, but you are in an old contract. I have that 70 dollar everything contract. And my phone sends it to sprint, how I use my data. I like to know, if there is a way around or if there is a custom rom out there, which addresses this already?
No way to bypass carrier monitoring your bandwidth. Use of XDA to try to steal from carriers, no matter how unhappy we may be with them, is frowned upon too. :highfive:
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No way to bypass carrier monitoring your bandwidth. Use of XDA to try to steal from carriers, no matter how unhappy we may be with them, is frowned upon too. :highfive:
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So, explain to me where the difference is when I use 20gb on my phone watching youtube or netflix or what ever OR streaming the internet onto my notebook and watch the 20gb there?
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So, explain to me where the difference is when I use 20gb on my phone watching youtube or netflix or what ever OR streaming the internet onto my notebook and watch the 20gb there?
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Up to the carrier, I am assuming you're referring to these offers that allow the customers to stream from certain sites without penalty? Again, you would have to contact them to clarify.
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Up to the carrier, I am assuming you're referring to these offers that allow the customers to stream from certain sites without penalty? Again, you would have to contact them to clarify.
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No, they have free data on the phone. But limit to 3gb when streaming onto other devices. I have already paid for the gbs.
I am not sure how cdma carriers route traffic. I know that gsm carriers rought traffic through APNs. Tether data is sent through a different APN than regular data. The file /system/etc/apns.conf has your default APNs for your carrier. Editing the tether APN to match the primary APN will route traffic so that tether is not detected partially. Then you will need to change the user agent string in your browser or use a vpn to mask the user agent string so that the carrier does not detect Windows browsers. There is also the tether_dun_required=0 entry in a DB file that needs to be set. And finally in /system/build.prop add this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Something like that...
Did anyone find a way around this
I am on the 60 dollar plan and they are trying to force me to the 70 dollar with the tethering cap because i have a nexus 6p I am beginning to hate sprint i just started to do this because where i use to live i got no service and had to pay 40 dollar a month for wifi now that i get service I figured id use the tether well they say im using too much data and is trying to force me on to this plan I think I will soon be on ATT PREPAID BECAUSE I Am not going to deal with this crap.
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I am on the 60 dollar plan and they are trying to force me to the 70 dollar with the tethering cap because i have a nexus 6p I am beginning to hate sprint i just started to do this because where i use to live i got no service and had to pay 40 dollar a month for wifi now that i get service I figured id use the tether well they say im using too much data and is trying to force me on to this plan I think I will soon be on ATT PREPAID BECAUSE I Am not going to deal with this crap.
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Come try T-Mobile. It's nice over here.