Hi there, I have joined this Forum as I have spent the last week reading through heaps of threads, and while I have learnt a bit, I am at a point where I need some help.
I got a HTC T-Mobile HD2 for less than half price with the intention of running Android OS. I got it for this price as it has the freezing issues. I don't think it is in warranty and the box and CD didn't come with it.
I think it must be a US T-Mobile, as it has the Coming Together screen when it is turned on. Most of the time, that is all it gets to. It has a green talk button and red off button. The resets do nothing.
I have read that these phones are often returned to HTC as they are defective, they get hot and don't work. The one I got doesn't get hot. When it does boot up, it has Transformers and Transformers2 loaded into the memory. It will play but after a short time it goes black and resets.
Does this phone seem repairable? If so, please tell me where to start as I have been totally confused here.
Here is some of the details I got off it when it was booted up.
CPU Qualcomm (R)
Speed 1024 Mhz
Ram 576MB
Flash Size 1024 MB
Data Bus 32 Bit
Storage Size 689.61
Bluetooth Version 2.1/2.1 ERD
WM 6.5
OS version 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Manilla Version 2.5.20121412.2
ROM Version 2.13.531.1 (90963)
ROM date 04/28/10
Radio 2.10.50.26
Protocol version 15.39.50.07U
Total Storage 689.61MB
Used 76.52MB
Free 613.09MB
Total Program 458.74MB
Used Program 172.52MB
Free Program 286.19
SD Card
Total 7571.20MB
Used 1419.18MB
Free 6152.02MB
Thanks for any help here.
98% of the time it's the software. Flash a new STOCK rom and see if the problem persists.
98% hardware problem, not software.
Okay will flash a new stock ram, as I have nothing to lose here. Back to searching on how to achieve this!
StarScreamx said:
98% hardware problem, not software.
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That's quite helpful, isn't it?
My expieriences vary from StarScreamX's ones. Indeed it might be a good idea to flash the stock rom which was made for your HD2. Back in the days of WM 6.5 it solved some weird problems permanently. You might even reflash your original HSPL, only to flash the fitting version again. I repeated those steps several times, just to wipe out eventually made errors.
The other point is, that some errors occur because of certain hardware-combinations, not because of the components themselves. It might be the SD-Card or even the way you formatted it. Best expieriences I've made with using Fat32 64kb cluster size. Seemed to speed up the whole OS.
My last suggestion is to try several builds. Android can be far different from Android. For examle Sense, ADW, MIUI are all pretty good, but have their own advantages. While I first refused MIUI for its similiarities to iOS, I stuck with it before I switched to WP7 some Weeks ago.
Try the builds and take your time, there certainly is one, that runs great on YOUR hardware.
Anyway, Good Luck!
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Hi there, I have joined this Forum as I have spent the last week reading through heaps of threads, and while I have learnt a bit, I am at a point where I need some help.
I got a HTC T-Mobile HD2 for less than half price with the intention of running Android OS. I got it for this price as it has the freezing issues. I don't think it is in warranty and the box and CD didn't come with it.
I think it must be a US T-Mobile, as it has the Coming Together screen when it is turned on. Most of the time, that is all it gets to. It has a green talk button and red off button. The resets do nothing.
I have read that these phones are often returned to HTC as they are defective, they get hot and don't work. The one I got doesn't get hot. When it does boot up, it has Transformers and Transformers2 loaded into the memory. It will play but after a short time it goes black and resets.
Does this phone seem repairable? If so, please tell me where to start as I have been totally confused here.
Here is some of the details I got off it when it was booted up.
CPU Qualcomm (R)
Speed 1024 Mhz
Ram 576MB
Flash Size 1024 MB
Data Bus 32 Bit
Storage Size 689.61
Bluetooth Version 2.1/2.1 ERD
WM 6.5
OS version 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Manilla Version 2.5.20121412.2
ROM Version 2.13.531.1 (90963)
ROM date 04/28/10
Radio 2.10.50.26
Protocol version 15.39.50.07U
Total Storage 689.61MB
Used 76.52MB
Free 613.09MB
Total Program 458.74MB
Used Program 172.52MB
Free Program 286.19
SD Card
Total 7571.20MB
Used 1419.18MB
Free 6152.02MB
Thanks for any help here.
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I think it might be a hardware issue my Hd2 has the same issues & I jst finished restorting it back to stock so i cld snd for repair. Once its stock SPL, original ROM try running it with out an SD card, try running w/out SIM card & if you still have issued most likely ur stuck w a bad HD2
After heaps of searching and learning, interesting and rewarding when you put some effort into it, I loaded a stock ROM, removed the SD card, hard reset, it made no difference to the freezing and booting up issues.
If left for about 10 minutes the Stick Together screen got these numbers at the bottom, then it would boot up...sometimes but it always reset itself after looking intothe menu and then it would not reboot.
So I did more reading, and with my confidence up after achieving my first stock ROM flash, I thought I would try ANDROID.
I used the TUT Flashing your first ROM on Leo 1024 thread. Installed the HPSL 1.11, successfully.
Then I installed the MAGLDR program.
Then I installed the ROM - [TMOUS][LEO1024][DFT/CWM]CMYLXGO's Stock Desire HD(2)[KERNEL:MDJ 10.4OC] which seems to be the most 1024 friendly and least taxing ROM on the CPU.
It worked so far. I did the Root task as explained, although I dunno if I was needed to. But at least the phone boots up for more than 3 minutes. I give it a Hard Reset and it is now on charge.
It will not boot up if it crashes, have to wait. Maybe this will settle down after a while.
Anyhow, I love this ROM, it has made the phone SO FAST it is incredible. That is until it crashes. I LOVE the HTC HD2 phone, it is just awesome.
i dunno what to do, stick with this perhaps suspect dodgey phone, that could let me down at the most inconvienent time. What I will do is give it a chance today, after charging. It is a really hot day here, over 120F so if handles that it will handle anything. If it fails, I notice that Ebay have free insetion fees this Weekend, and I may get rid of it and let someone else have a turn at it, and just get one that is not a bad one.
Anyhow sorry for boring all the experts with my phone problems, I did try my hardest to search and learn it myself, and this is a great forum, and I am gonna keep at this with this phone now or my next one. These Custom ROM's are just awesome.
I'm glad you're finally enjoying it.
Just remember, the way you use/abuse your phone could have an adverse effect on its condition. If it gets too hot:
--try to see if you have programs running in the background.
--don't use a case if you're watching a 2hr movie through SD card (really, how's that heat going to escape?)
--watch wifi usage
--leave the phone in a well-ventilated space
...things of that nature, etc.
I'm not saying there's no such thing as hardware issue, but symptoms like those are a lot more clear-cut than a phone overheating and restarting.
In my case I'm confident its hardware related. I had mine and my wife's phones loaded with the same ROM. My phone continues to die in my hands while hers hums along with no problems at all.
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Hi,
Phone info :
ipl : 3.08
SPL: 3.08
GSM: 01.12.10
OS : 4.0.0.0
Using a rom i upgraded a year ago.
So yesterday i decided to update my music on the phone, so not a big deal, but when i tryed to play 1 my telephone said it was out of memory and just went really slow, so i decided a reset, bad move.
After the reset it goes to the 2nd loading screen and just hangs there, i cant do anything.
When booting i can go into the screen with all the colors. (gotta press the cam button).
I already googled 2 days but cant find anything to fix this.
Any idea's ?? or is my phone dead ?
didnt remember this forum to be this dead.... any word ?
All my snarky comments about your misplaced impatience can be set aside for later abuse.
For now, here's how you fix it:
Charge on a wall charger with phone turned off. Verify green light before going any further (flashes don't work on less than 50% charge, and a full charge is the only way to be sure when you can't boot the OS).
Let it boot until it's stuck in bootloader mode (the three-color screen).
Hook it to a computer that you have previously synced to the phone with. Verify that "USB" appears in the bottom of the screen. If not, you're probably hosed.
Flash the ROM you loaded again (or get another ROM, doesn't matter...the one in my Sig is pretty nice, if you re-skin Manila after loading it). If you unlocked this phone before adding the ROM you last had, do NOT flash back to OEM ROM unless you can flash a ROM that removes the unlock (for G4, it's the Remove HardSPL procedure).
After that, you can stave off a lot of these kind of memory problems in the future by loading some kind of RAM indicator (QuickMenu has a built-in one, can manage running programs, and gives you a Windows desktop-style start menu for programs instead of the dumb endless folder parade) to let you know you have too many programs running, and you need to do a soft reset every once in a while, just to jog it clean. It also would be wise for you to load a cleaner to clear out your temp files...you'd be shocked how much crap piles up under the OS when you're not looking.
One last thing, do us a favor and put all your phone's info in your Sig...it helps others have a strong footing for making suggestions...not everyone would know off-hand that you have a G3 or a G4 without that info, and your problems can be made a LOT worse by someone offering the wrong answer based on not clearly identifying your hardware.
Hi,
First, Sorry for my impatient, it kinda sucked to have to go back to my old phone and recharge every 30 mins
In this impatiency (dont know if its a word but it sounds cool ) i found out my t-mobile contract was up for renewal, so i did that and ordered a new HTC Touch HD (will update my sig assoon as it ships )
So i guess ill fix this phone, and find a dutch ROM and give it to my dad, he's always working with excel etc and i think this is perfect
Thanks for your response and fix, sorry again for my impatience.
Sorry, double post, pretty slow forum lately
My phone freezes at random times. I couldn't figure out a pattern.
I bought it a week ago and at after some time I click on the power button to wakeup - it doesn't respond and sometimes I just leave it as it is and find the backlight still on showing the screen from 10 minutes ago and not responsive.
The only thing I can do is to soft reset the device but just yesterday it happened like 40 times. While frozen the gsm service is also down and the incoming calls are replied with "can't be reached at the moment" 2 days ago I hard reset the device and it froze again just after the hard reset - for that reason I believe it's a hardware or a firmware issue - not a software one.
ROM:1.14.414.2 24011 WWE
ROM date: 12/10/08
Radio version: 1.09.25.14
Protocol version: 52.49a.25.26U
Anyone with the same issue?
//anything like an eventvwr to see the logs? maybe I can figure out a pattern.
- Did you install the HTC hotfix?
- How old is your sim card? If it's very old, you may want to ask your provider for a new one.
Thx for the questions - unfortunately:
- Installed the hot fixes
- I just got a new subscription, my sim is new
"h..p://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all"
Download and install the bottom fix.
edit: Sorry now I did see your reply.
Do a hard reset and after install again hotfix
Thanks for the advise, but it doesn't work either.
2 days ago I hard reset the device, applied the patch - still the same problem. Also in the link you wrote it says "screen stops responding for about 3 to 5 seconds when running" - My device just freezes at a point and stops responding. Most probably there is an IRQ trigger at the processor level that freezes all operations.
//doublepost
Same thing happened to me a few times.
Today I hat to soft reset 4 times!! with the button under the back cover because none of the buttons would do anything at all.
I also have the device for just over a week now.
I'll try and install the patch, but I don't think it will fix it because the description of the problem is totaly different.
I'll let you know..
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah
Pfeffa-rah, I suppose you bought it from Netherland - and I bought it from Belgium, most probably with the same shipment - there might be a production or shipment problem. Its good to know that I'm not alone =)
By the time can you write down ROM, ROM date, Radio version and Protocol version?
Looking forward to hear from you,
Kaya
Hi I just installed the hotfix and played around with it.
The hotfix did nothing at all!
It still froze on me.
Rom version: 1.14.404.3 (22237) NLD
RomDate: 12/09/08
Radioversion: 1.09.25.14
Protocolversion: 52.49a.25.26U
I might try backing up this rom and installing another one...
I've had good experiences wit dutty's roms on my TytnII..
But I need time for that. And time... well... there's never enough
I installed a lot of software in My HD. I was thinking of doing a hard reset and installing the programms one by one. However, since you have the same problem and it didn't work for you. I guess that's no use then..
Damn, I love my Blackstone, but this random freezing really spoils it!
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah
I will warn you on changing the rom 'cause we aren't using the same rom version but facing the same problem. This might mean - it is either a problem with the radio version/protocol or a hardware issue. If its a hardware issue, a cooked rom won't make much of a difference. And I wouldn't risk to blow its warranty if it is really a hardware problem that would need a replacement.
You long live my friend, nothing explains this situation better than this:
"Damn, I love my Blackstone, but this random freezing really spoils it!"
// the only software didn't get effected from hard reset is igo8 which was in my sd - do you by any chance have it too? maybe but just maybee it might be screwing around with the gps and cause trouble but its really a long shot
Same issue did appear in Greece, in 4 different devices. Two (2) of them bought from Expansys and two (2) from local market. One of them returned the device to the local resseler and they changed motherboard.
Now me, after installing official ROM and Cooked ones (Panosha 1.3, 1.4, 1.4.1, 1.5) and having always after a couple of days the same problem, now I am running Panosha Black Pearl 1.6 with no problems at all yet.
My devices info :
I also have to mention that probably the problem has nothing to do with specific software / program, since I've tried official ROM, with nothing else installed (completely clean device and NO SD card inside)
HTC Touch HD, S/N HT844..., bought from Expansys on 10/11/08, ROM now : Black Pearl 1.6 WWE Full (Original 1.14.405.3 build 22273 WWE, ROM date 24/10/08), Radio version: 1.09.25.14
evharisto poli ktsak =)
Now we can be almost sure that its not a rom or a software issue as the problem is spotted on different rom versions. Hopefully we have the same radio and protocol version which either of them might be the cause (I suppose ktsak didn't made a change on it). Or a hardware problem ofcourse.
kozalp said:
Now we can be almost sure that its not a rom or a software issue as the problem is spotted on different rom versions. Hopefully we have the same radio and protocol version which either of them might be the cause (I suppose ktsak didn't change made a change on it). Or a hardware problem ofcourse.
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Yes, protocol and radio version are the original ones, never changed.
Thats why i've tried 5 or six different ROMs, in order to exclude the possibility of software affect
My Blackstone was very easy to freeze. When I opened a lot of programms and then used the manager to close all of them at once, (I use the SPB pocket plus X-button menu for that....) it woud freeze 9 outof 19 times.
What I have tried:
1. remove SIM and SD-card.
I couldn't freeze it after that. I tried 15 times. I didn't freeze even once.
2. With simcard but no SD.
Couldn't freeze it.
3. Formatted SD-card and copied everything back to it.
(use micro-SD to USB adaptor for that)
It only froze once. After that until now, I couldn't make it freeze.
Since it still froze 1 time, I think it is not the solution.
Especially because of ktsak's post....
ktsak said:
I also have to mention that probably the problem has nothing to do with specific software / program, since I've tried official ROM, with nothing else installed (completely clean device and NO SD card inside)
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However, I will still experiment with it a bit.
I changed the class 4 one I got with the device with a class 8 one that I already had. That is the one I am using now.
What SD-cards are you using?
(There were also freezes without SD-cards installed?)
I will use it with the class 8 re-formatted SD-card for a while and see if it freezes. If it does, I will try the slow one.
I will report back here.
ktsac: let us know if the Black Pearl still works or if it doesn't. I am used to flashing my phones all the time, so I am not afraid of it.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
FYI
Is there a way to format the SD card from the device? I haven't tried that yet but I don't have a compatible card reader or an adapter either.
And I also tried to run a lot of programs and kill them all - it froze... It might mean a problem with process killing.
Pfeffa-rah said:
What I have tried:
2. With simcard but no SD.
Couldn't freeze it.
3. Formatted SD-card and copied everything back to it (use micro-SD to USB adaptor for that). It only froze once. After that until now, I couldn't make it freeze. Since it still froze 1 time, I think it is not the solution.
I changed the class 4 one I got with the device with a class 8 one that I already had. That is the one I am using now. What SD-cards are you using? (There were also freezes without SD-cards installed?)
I will use it with the class 8 re-formatted SD-card for a while and see if it freezes. If it does, I will try the slow one.
ktsak: let us know if the Black Pearl still works or if it doesn't. I am used to flashing my phones all the time, so I am not afraid of it.
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As mentioned in previous message, I've also tried with SIM card and NO SD and had the problem as well.
Also have to clarify that my miroSD card is a Class 2, SanDisk 8GB capacity, officialy supplied with the package. Never tried anything else.
Probably you also mean 8 GB and not Class 8, since, as far as I know, the fastest in the market is Class 6. Class 8 does not exist, you' ve made a mistake. Now, since last Monday, with Black Pearl 1.6 WWE installed, the device operates with no difficiencies, no freezing at all. Thats my news
kozalp said:
Is there a way to format the SD card from the device? I haven't tried that yet but I don't have a compatible card reader or an adapter either.
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Try SKTools
ktsak said:
As mentioned in previous message, I've also tried with SIM card and NO SD and had the problem as well.
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I just tried it hoping our problems might not be the same. I must point out that it DID make a difference in my case. I only managed to freeze it once since yesterday. (And I really tried hard!). And even then it was a different freeze than the other ones. The buttons still vibrated my device and I could still switch the screen on and off. I crashed it by opening 16 tabs in opera and then close opera, so it could be just opera crashing.....
The verry first freeze could have been the result of already corrupted data in memory since I didn't soft-reset it after I switched SD-cards...
So I still have some hope that formatting did the trick... some....
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Probably you also mean 8 GB and not Class 8..... you' ve made a mistake...
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Yes indeed I misread the tiny 6 for a 8 .... Re-examining it with a magnifying-glass, I could just see the difference
So it is an 8 GB class 6 micro SD card...
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Now, since last Monday, with Black Pearl 1.6 WWE installed, the device operates with no difficiencies, no freezing at all. Thats my news
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Well, that seems good news to me!
I'll use mine for a week or so, or untill it freezes on me again, and let you know.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
Pfeffa-rah said:
Well, that seems good news to me! I'll use mine for a week or so, or untill it freezes on me again, and let you know.
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Last night i did install Black Pearl 1.7. This morning tried to open the device from StandBy mode, same problem No response. Tommorow morning I'm sending the device to the Sevice (local Reseller here in Greece) . Tired to flash again and again, in order to find a ROM that the device acts normally
Besides that, IMO this is not a ROM issue, nor other software issue. It is a HARDWARE problem
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Besides that, IMO this is not a ROM issue, nor other software issue. It is a HARDWARE problem
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I am sorry to hear that the ROM did not help.
My experiments failed also. Yesterday my Blackstone froze again.
I agree with you that it must be a hardware problem. (again after using close all...)
I think I will have to turn in my device too then, and go back to my Tytn II.
Damn, i didn't like my Tytn II from the start. (well.. from week three or so...) But at least I can trust it not to freeze on me...
Does anyone have any sugestions? anything we didn't try before?
Plz. help.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
Hi, I'm having a big problem with my device, I've bought the European version and didn't touch the ROM or radio for a cool 3 months, but I often update to the latest Cookie HT, and lots of different apps. Then it got a weird behavior that if I use the device and it got a little hot it would restart by itself and after the restart got stuck on the white logo screen. It would happen often when plugged and Activesynced to my computer.
I lived with this situation for the past month but now I had enough, I've updated the radio to the latest I could find, and the ROM to Energy with Cookie HT.
Now it's worse, I can't get it to stable on the Home screen, I can see it but can't play with anything, stuck...
And BTW when it get stuck the bottom of the phone is quite hot, even if I left it for quite some time.
Edit : The Sense UI isn't loading and it actually a good bug, cause the device is running smoothly even on ActiveSync. It feels like the CHT is to blame, at least the latest one to date.
Edit 2 : Sorry, I was wrong, now it got stuck during SPB backup restoring connected to ActiveSync.
Edit 3, Sorry 2 : I've let it cool, turned it on and somehow the CHT is back and working wonderfully, this is weirder then I thought.
Edit 4 : I've managed to run Android 2.1 Desire and it was running good until it got a little warm and then froze. I'm beginning to suspect this is a hardware issue.
I realy need help feaguring this one out.
I've replaced a couple of Radio versions and this device keep jamming up, it's now unusable. I need to get it relaxed and cold before I try to turn it on again.
Can it be that the ROM is responsible ? should I go back to the stock with no mod at all (it would KILL me though).
I'm frastrated and thinking of selling the phone if anyone would buy this piece of crap.
i am in the same boat mate.
mine is going back to htc tomorrow.
In the end i removed everything and took the rom/radio back to stock still the 'heat' issue exists.
It has been like this on test for nearly two weeks if i try to run the youtube app the phone switches off anything more intense and it hard resets itself.
I have learnt that if you leave it too cool down battery out etc it will switch back on and if you do nothing but make phone calls it will be ok?
Having read alot it appears this issue happens if the device goes over a certain temp. For example folks have been moaning about the phone switching off if used in a car whilst charging running sat nav.
I advise you to contact htc as i have done.
you may have already done this, but did you do a task 29 before flashing the rom (task 29 wipes the phone and gives you a clean base to start from). Also delete the application data on your mem card(important). If your phone wont boot you can enter the bootloader by removing batt and holding vol down as soon as you you put the batt back in,This will put you onto bootloader screen ( if you have hspl installed?) from here you can do task 29 and reflash your chosen rom. Oh and make sure you have required radio for the rom you choose. hope this is of some help thought id try
Just wanted to update that HTC took an effort and accepted my unwarranted device for fixing. They replaced the board and sent it back on their expense. The device now is working flawlessly !
Thanks to HTC for a GREAT customer service and support !!!
Hi everyone,
I recently joined this forum because I got my hands on an HTC HD2 from T-Mobile. Don't know the "official" name to call it since the phone name implies that it's a HTC HD2 LEO and from the looks of it (green call button and red power/end button), it looks like it should be T-Mobile HD2. I'm an advanced computer user in general, but admit that I'm completely new to WinMo devices and have spent hours scouring these threads reading up as much as I can. Now I have a few questions and things that I just want to clear my mind of before I dive in
Please bear with me on this. So many questions to ask and they may sound simple for those that are use to it, but I'm clueless on them.
Model: T-Mobile/HTC HD2
OS Version: 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Manila version: 2.5.20121412.2
ROM version: 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE
ROM Date: 4/28/10
Radio version: 2.10.50.26
Protocol version: 15.39.50.07U
RAM Size: 576MB
Flash Size: 1024MB
R 2.10.50.26
G 15.39.50.07U
D 2.13.90693 8G
SPL-2.10.0000 8G XE
PB81120 SS-B3
I'm using Windows 7 64-bit and have Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 installed already.
1. One major problem I noticed is that this phone is a power guzzler. I left the phone around 75% of power remaining and by morning, it was dead. I made sure to turn off all the unnecessary data fetching features and it didn't seem to help out much. Anyone else experienced similar problems? I read up on a lot of the battery usage tips here and elsewhere and so far, there is very little improvement.
2. Which brings me to this question. I want to try using other custom ROMS that I have been seeing users talking about here. Maybe it will help out with the power issue and also remove unnecessary garbage that may be slowing down the unit. It looks like in order for me to do any of these things, I must install HardSPL3 first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
I have a question on this part:
IMPORTANT: To install/uninstall this HSPL3 there must be any SPL version from this list on your device:
SPL 1.42.0000, SPL 1.62.0000, SPL 1.66.0000, SPL 2.07.0000, SPL 2.08.0000, SPL 2.10.000
3. If I wanted to go back to stock SPL, how do I do this? For HSPL3_PKG.exe, it looks like it will only go back to SPL 2.08.0000? My version is 2.10.0000 (8G XE, not sure what those characters are for).
4. One part says that flashing with the wrong ROM can "brick" the phone. But if I install HardSPL3 first, how do I unbrick it? Just by doing a hard reset or restoring stock ROM?
5. When we flash a custom ROM, is that ROM going to be the one used after we do a hard reset?
Here's hoping to doing my first HardSPL or ROM flash without screwing it up
Thanks in advance.
Wow, GREAT first post. Although most of these questions have been answered before, I must commend you on your post. Clear english, more information that I can shake a stick at, general politeness...you are a poster child for what we want new users to be.
Anywho, to answer your questions:
1-There are ways to conserve power with the HD2, and customs ROMs do generally have less power consumption than stock ROMs, but ultimately it comes down to that the HD2 has a small battery at just 1230MAh. I would purchase an extended battery, you can get them from eBay for like 15 bucks and they work wonders.
2-Yes, you need to install HardSPL in order to flash a custom ROM, but once you do it you never need to re-do it as it is permanent. And yes, your SPL should work with the HSPL3 package.
3-To go back to stock SPL, you can either use the HSPL package to go back to 2.08.0000 or flash the official 2.13 T-Mobile USA stock ROM via your SD card and it will overwrite HardSPL back to 2.08.0000. Even though your SPL is 2.10.0000, there is no real appreciable end-user difference between the two. The only reason you would need to go back to stock SPL is for warranty purposes.
4-Yes, flashing the wrong custom, stock or radio ROM will brick your device. PLEASE read up on which versions work. If the thread specifically says "for TMOUS" then you are pretty much in the clear. If it says for LEO512 or Euro, DO NOT attempt to flash it, as it WILL perma-brick your device. Radio's are really the most deadly. Flashing a radio ROM with .51 in its name WILL perma-brick your phone. The rule of thumb with WinMo is that if your phone can go into bootloader, by pressing power and holding the down volume button from startup, and get to the tri-color screen then you can flash a new ROM and most of the time recover. Flashing an incorrect ROM or radio will make it so that your phone will not power on, thus rendering it usesless.
and 5-Yes, whatever ROM is on your device is the ROM that will be re-installed when you Hard Reset. To go back to stock, just flash the original 2.13 T-MoUS stock ROM.
I hope that helps, and please don't hesitate to ask anymore questions. READ like crazy before flashing, and if in doubt....DON'T FLASH till you ask. Also, for more info, check out the guide in my signature, should be helpfull.
Thanks for the fast reply ashasaur
One thing on the SPL version. Since I have SPL 2.10.0000 will T-Mobile notice that it's 2.08.0000 and won't take it back? Just asking these precautionary questions. More on the careful side
I definitely have read dozens of these threads and think I pretty much get the gist of it now. Will definitely look out for those things you mentioned and have been reading those sentences in big red fonts LOL
I actually do have a few more questions.
1. I have been installing some of the apps mentioned here to my SD card. If my guess is correct, I have to reinstall these again if a different ROM is used right? There are probably settings stored in the registry on the internal memory.
2. Been having trouble using WiFi with both of my wireless routers at home even though they work for my other computers. For some reason, it connects to them but when I try to browse a webpage with Opera, it gives me an error saying it can't be found (or similar to that wording). Once I turn off WiFi, it works again with 3G.
3. This one will probably have no definitive answer and I've seen debates go on about it. Do you notice any power usage difference between using WiFi or 3G for the internet? Besides speed, if WiFi uses less power, I want to get that working.
Now to get that extended battery. Hopefully it won't stick out too much since I read up on that also somewhere.
Thanks again.
No problem.
1-No, T-Mobile has no idea what SPL you have, only that it falls within a certain range of (something) to (something), that top one being 2.10.0000. They DO know however if your SPL has been tweaked with the HSPL3 package because it displays HSPL after the SPL version.
2-Yes, if you install a new ROM, or hard reset you will have to reinstall all the applications that you have installed right now regardless of where you put them. You can however get a backup program such as Sprite Backup and backup your entire program database, then use that backup on your new ROM to put back all your programs and tweaks and whatnot in one easy process.
3-Some routers are just straight up not compatable with the HD2's WiFi adaptor. Search for how to enable WiFi N on the HD2. Even if your router doesn't support N speeds, it still sometimes solves compatability problems, as do custom ROMs.
4-3G more often then not actually uses more power than WiFi because..well...I don't really know to be honest, only that it does. Mostly from what I gather is that depending on your signal strentgh 3G may use very little, to an amazing amount of power, whereas no matter what the signal strength, WiFi is pretty constant.
They do make extended 1600MAh batteries that have the same form factor as the stock one, and don't require the bigger cover...which is about a half inch tall I'm afraid. I myself use a cheapo 1600MAh battery from eBay and get around 30% more battery life out of it versus the stock one, and can still use the stock cover.
ashasaur said:
No problem.
1-No, T-Mobile has no idea what SPL you have, only that it falls within a certain range of (something) to (something), that top one being 2.10.0000. They DO know however if your SPL has been tweaked with the HSPL3 package because it displays HSPL after the SPL version.
2-Yes, if you install a new ROM, or hard reset you will have to reinstall all the applications that you have installed right now regardless of where you put them. You can however get a backup program such as Sprite Backup and backup your entire program database, then use that backup on your new ROM to put back all your programs and tweaks and whatnot in one easy process.
3-Some routers are just straight up not compatable with the HD2's WiFi adaptor. Search for how to enable WiFi N on the HD2. Even if your router doesn't support N speeds, it still sometimes solves compatability problems, as do custom ROMs.
4-3G more often then not actually uses more power than WiFi because..well...I don't really know to be honest, only that it does. Mostly from what I gather is that depending on your signal strentgh 3G may use very little, to an amazing amount of power, whereas no matter what the signal strength, WiFi is pretty constant.
They do make extended 1600MAh batteries that have the same form factor as the stock one, and don't require the bigger cover...which is about a half inch tall I'm afraid. I myself use a cheapo 1600MAh battery from eBay and get around 30% more battery life out of it versus the stock one, and can still use the stock cover.
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Okay.... You are so posting the particulars of that 1600MAh battery! Right?! Aren't we ALL looking for a larger battery that doesn't change the form factor of the HD2! PLEASE!!!!!
ElaineD said:
Okay.... You are so posting the particulars of that 1600MAh battery! Right?! Aren't we ALL looking for a larger battery that doesn't change the form factor of the HD2! PLEASE!!!!!
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x2! (and here are the obligatory extra characters)
I finally did it. I stayed up until like 1AM yesterday re-reading everything in the threads here before I dove in and installed HardSPL3, Core Cell Custom ROM and to make the final finish, flashed the radio ROM to 2.12.50.02_2. Everything seems to be ok except for a few freeze ups here and there with the Core Cell ROM.
Already enabled the wireless N on the HD2 and also have an N router. Will give it another try since the attempt failed last night.
Thanks for mentioning those two programs. Just what I wanted. They will definitely save me time.
The only 1600mah batteries I found on eBay are all from China. It's going to be a long wait and if I decide to buy it, I hope it's not a cheap model. Need a good long lasting battery
Heh, awesome! You will enjoy custom ROMs. Every device I have ever had has had a custom ROM, and the HD2 is no different. They just make the phones sooooo much better.
Anyways, due to popular demand, here is a picture of my battery, and yes, it's a cheapo from China...cost me I think 8USD on eBay, and took around a week to get here by standard overseas shipping.
It's a NETCOM WCL-01A. SUPPOSEDLY works with all the HD2 variants. 3.7V, 1600MAh, and as you can see...is standard size and works with the stock battery cover. Pictures suck I know, taken with my webcam...
Thanks for the pics. Quality is more than enough to make out what it looks like. I think I saw an identical one going on eBay. Will snatch one up now since the shipping time will be the huge killer here. How long did you have it for? Last thing I want is a cheap battery leaking inside LOL
I still use it everyday...and i've had it since around June-ish I think. Still works just as well as the day I bought it.
ashasaur said:
No problem.
1-No, T-Mobile has no idea what SPL you have, only that it falls within a certain range of (something) to (something), that top one being 2.10.0000. They DO know however if your SPL has been tweaked with the HSPL3 package because it displays HSPL after the SPL version.
2-Yes, if you install a new ROM, or hard reset you will have to reinstall all the applications that you have installed right now regardless of where you put them. You can however get a backup program such as Sprite Backup and backup your entire program database, then use that backup on your new ROM to put back all your programs and tweaks and whatnot in one easy process.
3-Some routers are just straight up not compatable with the HD2's WiFi adaptor. Search for how to enable WiFi N on the HD2. Even if your router doesn't support N speeds, it still sometimes solves compatability problems, as do custom ROMs.
4-3G more often then not actually uses more power than WiFi because..well...I don't really know to be honest, only that it does. Mostly from what I gather is that depending on your signal strentgh 3G may use very little, to an amazing amount of power, whereas no matter what the signal strength, WiFi is pretty constant.
They do make extended 1600MAh batteries that have the same form factor as the stock one, and don't require the bigger cover...which is about a half inch tall I'm afraid. I myself use a cheapo 1600MAh battery from eBay and get around 30% more battery life out of it versus the stock one, and can still use the stock cover.
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Snagged one from obostore.com $8.99 + free shipping andida brand...
"1600mah Andida Battery for HTC Touch HD2 Leo Tmobile HD2"
Hope it works!
So my HD2 freezes constantly. I don't have the unlock freezing issue nor the black screen freezing issue. My phone will just freeze quite constantly. Doesn't matter if I'm just doing a message, online, or it's just sitting there doing nothing. It will freeze and will have to remove the battery and restart it. I've reinstalled MAGLDR, CWM, and tried several ROMS and it still doesn't make a difference. I remove the battery and have to let it cool for around an hour just to turn it on and be able to use it for a period of time.
Any suggestions out there? Could the battery be bad? The hardware? I constantly use Task Killer and Data Eraser to make sure there aren't unnecessary programs running. I've narrowed my app collection to just the necessary ones that I need. Still doesn't make a difference. Any programs out there that would help with this issue in any way. Would repartitioning my SD card help at all. I have pretty much everything on my SD card as well so the hardware shouldn't be overloaded at all.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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LOADS of people are having this problem including myself.
As long as Mobile Data and Gps are OFF, I have no freezing issues.
BUT, if I turn on Mobile date or Gps, or both, then GAME OVER.....it freezes within seconds.
It's not your battery, or SD card and don't listen to the muppets who repeat themselves by saying "do a task29" coz it doesn't work.
I've tried 5 different SD card, got 2 hd2's, task29, over 100 roms, different radios etc etc.
Never used to happen on SD builds, only Nand.
if i had the cash, i'd smash my hd2 against the wall and get a Android native phone.
this aint ever gonna be solved.
matt
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So my HD2 freezes constantly. I don't have the unlock freezing issue nor the black screen freezing issue. My phone will just freeze quite constantly. Doesn't matter if I'm just doing a message, online, or it's just sitting there doing nothing. It will freeze and will have to remove the battery and restart it. I've reinstalled MAGLDR, CWM, and tried several ROMS and it still doesn't make a difference. I remove the battery and have to let it cool for around an hour just to turn it on and be able to use it for a period of time.
Any suggestions out there? Could the battery be bad? The hardware? I constantly use Task Killer and Data Eraser to make sure there aren't unnecessary programs running. I've narrowed my app collection to just the necessary ones that I need. Still doesn't make a difference. Any programs out there that would help with this issue in any way. Would repartitioning my SD card help at all. I have pretty much everything on my SD card as well so the hardware shouldn't be overloaded at all.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Hi,
It might be worth trying to flash an original ROM and seeing if the same thing occurs in WinMo.
Have you properly formatted card? (overwrite with size adjustment)
Which rom are you using?
Does it do it on multiple roms?
Have you done a task29?
have you tried a different radio version?
TheATHEiST said:
Have you properly formatted card? (overwrite with size adjustment)
Which rom are you using?
Does it do it on multiple roms?
Have you done a task29?
have you tried a different radio version?
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I've tried all those things. I'm using the Nexus 2 Gingerbread ROM by tytung. I've tried winmo roms, android, etc. I've done task 29 several times. Different radios as well. It doesn't make a difference at all. I found a thread that might be the culmination of it all. If anyone else is having problems like I am, take a look at this thread. It's definitely the motherboard overheating and freezing/and or shutting itself off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454
Luckily, I pay insurance through t-mobile so I will be picking up a new HD2 pretty soon.
I had a similar problem, but mine came about under different circumstances. I smashed my HD2 against a wall for whatever personal reasons that you shouldn't care about, anyway, so I ordered a replacement display. When I installed the display the phone would freeze just as described by OP. I found that disabling GPS and WiFi allowed me to use it for a longer time, but if I ever so much as applied any pressure to the display (rather than just lightly touching it) the screen would freeze and sometimes it would just straight shut off until it didn't turn back on at all (this was barely the first day after installation). I opened the phone and tested, found out that the LCD flex cable had a defect to it where if it was bent (the position it's supposed to be in once the phone is assembled) the display would "short out" and with the cable fully extended no problems would be present, even after applying pressure to the display or any of the other internal components.
I'm sending my LCD back for a replacement and hopefully the new one will work fine. I've read that some LCD's cause the HD2 to freeze and I think I was unlucky enough to receive one such. I need the phone to hold on long enough until I get my contract renewal May 2012. I'm surviving on my Dream right now and I'm going through Angry Birds withdrawal...
Compatible-Bad Hardware-Insurance Questions
freeridindirtbiker said:
I've tried all those things. I'm using the Nexus 2 Gingerbread ROM by tytung. I've tried winmo roms, android, etc. I've done task 29 several times. Different radios as well. It doesn't make a difference at all. I found a thread that might be the culmination of it all. If anyone else is having problems like I am, take a look at this thread. It's definitely the motherboard overheating and freezing/and or shutting itself off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454
Luckily, I pay insurance through t-mobile so I will be picking up a new HD2 pretty soon.
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I have similar issue. Could use advice. Please.
My HD2 is about a year old. Decided to try android on the sd.
Device: HTC HD2 TMOUSA
Radio: 2.10.50.26 (Original) NOW flashed to 2.15.50.14
SPL: 2.10.xxxx (Original) NOW HSLP 2.08.0000
Android Rom: SD AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB234 CM71
WM Rom: 2.13.531.1 (Original)
ACA seemed ok but would freeze randomly. So I flashed the radio to the 50.14. Seemed a little better but still a few freezes in android. Thought I would try the partition to improve the sd card performance. can't tell if it helped or not to many freeze ups to use android during the day. NOW my winmo side it giving me random reboots. It gets hot reboots, especially bad if using gps. I know overheating is part of the issue because during the middle of the day in my car without A/C it is terrible.
I also have an OTTERBOX Defend which has kept the phone looking great but is a really pain with on all the battery removal with the freeze ups.
I have read that this can be a mainboard issue, but how can I tell if it is or not?
Could the radio and winmo rom be incompatible?
Should I flash the winmo rom to a more compatible android rom?
Should I send it in since I have TMO insurance? (Anyone know if there is a deductible if you didn't lose the phone?)
I have also noticed the on the winmo side it reboots less if I turn htc sense off.
Not sure if I should go back to a different radio or send it in?
Are the insurance replacements refurbished or new? do they have the same issue?
Thanks for any expertise you care to share.
Had similar problems with Tmous HD2. Problems were really bad in Winmo; aca worked somewhat better. Read forums, tried standard "solutions". With time the problems got to the point where the HD2 would not boot unless it had been placed in the refrigerator for 5 minutes.
Did T-Mobile warranty exchange in April. Replacement was refurb (arrives without battery or sd card, used old one), but looked fine. Had a week to test "new" phone, before sending the old one back. Replacment phone works much better. In Winmo, gps, videos, sense no longer cause reboots; aca also works great.
Hope this helps...
TheATHEiST said:
Have you properly formatted card? (overwrite with size adjustment)
Which rom are you using?
Does it do it on multiple roms?
Have you done a task29?
have you tried a different radio version?
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Exactly as my post from a few days ago predicted..."task 29"
FFS.