Nexus S vs samsung captivate - Nexus S General

Hello guys I'm new in this forum in really interested in new phone i wanna know which phone is better and faster. What are some pro and cons of nexus s? Currently I have xperia x10. Please share your opinions.
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the_ahmadzais said:
Hello guys I'm new in this forum in really interested in new phone i wanna know which phone is better and faster. What are some pro and cons of nexus s? Currently I have xperia x10. Please share your opinions.
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*Sigh* there are literally hundreds of these threads. The Nexus S is by far the faster phone and better is a subjective judgement. The Nexus S gets updates from Google and does not come saddled with carrier bloatware or Samsung's TouchWiz. Besides, the Captivate is on AT&T and if you're going over there you might as well just wait for the Atrix to come out if you want the latest and greatest.
If you're locked into Tmo and want by far the best single core phone and arguably the best phone on the market period, get the Nexus. If you want to be crippled by having to wait for Samsung to decide whether or not they want to update and fix the plethora of issues that plague the Galaxy S line then get the Vibrant/Vibrant 4G (coming soon)/Captivate/Fascinate/Epic 4G

I'm with Rogers and they are getting it on march.
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I'm with Rogers and they are getting it on march.
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the_ahmadzais said:
I'm with Rogers and they are getting it on march.
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don't hold your breath ...
March is only for MobilityCity, unless you plan to drop Rogers and move to the competition

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I'm with Rogers and they are getting it on march.
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I'd say go with the Captivate. Why? Nexus S probably won't give you 3g. They both have the Super AMOLED and the Hummingbird. The Captivate is great, but it does have touchwiz. Just make sure you get at least Froyo on the Captivate.
IMO Froyo is the only OS that you need to be upgraded to. Gingerbread is a kindof pointless update to be completely honest. Eclair brought multitouch, Froyo brought Flash and push... Gingerbread brought NFC...

The Captivate had a lot of potential to be a great phone, but I went through two over the course of 30 days and both had terrible gps and shutdown issues. The slow release of Froyo is unfortunate, but the quality of ROMs available is outstanding and if I had kept the phone I wouldn't have kept it stock.
I returned my Captivate and cancelled my extension because of the shutdown issues and poor attitude of the radio shack manager towards helping me find one in the "good" IMEI range.
Based on my research those 30 days that I had the captivate, aside from the Nexus S I will have a hard time recommending another Samsung phone.

I have the captivate right now, and I'm most likely switching to the Nexus S when it comes out with proper bands.

Anderdroid said:
I'd say go with the Captivate. Why? Nexus S probably won't give you 3g. They both have the Super AMOLED and the Hummingbird. The Captivate is great, but it does have touchwiz. Just make sure you get at least Froyo on the Captivate.
IMO Froyo is the only OS that you need to be upgraded to. Gingerbread is a kindof pointless update to be completely honest. Eclair brought multitouch, Froyo brought Flash and push... Gingerbread brought NFC...
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Why wouldn't the Nexus S give 3G? Unless this is a specific issue with canadian carriers and assuming the Nexus S is one with the proper bands it would offer the same coverage as the Captivate minus everything that makes Samsung phones suck (Samsung support).

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Why wouldn't the Nexus S give 3G? Unless this is a specific issue with canadian carriers and assuming the Nexus S is one with the proper bands it would offer the same coverage as the Captivate minus everything that makes Samsung phones suck (Samsung support).
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I believe anderdroid was replying under the assumption that we were talking about the CURRENTLY available Nexus S being used on AT&T rather than some as-yet-to-officially-announced AT&T version or (foreign model with AT&T bands).
You will never get the current model to do anything faster than EDGE on AT&T.
Hardware design-wise, the Captivate was actually my favorite of the Galaxy S phones released in the US, but I've never owned one.

Boy...I have both...and I can seriously say that as far as stability is concerned SGS is better. I am so pissed with the terrible issue of phone rebooting during the call on nexus S..and all google has to say is we are very near to fixing it.
On the other hand I do like the fact that this phone will be able to get all latest updates...so for me when choosing between SGS and SNS its about stability and bleeding edge...if you use your phone for fun and not lot of business Nexus S and for serious stuff SGS...
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What's your thoughts on the upcoming Galaxy S II

I ask this question as a current Vibrant owner from the day it came out. I have seen all that Samsung has done with its first line of Galaxy S phones and so I'm not sure if all the new technology is going to be worth the upcoming headaches. Its easier to get a working ROM from the community rather than deal with official Samsung updates.
If you feel the same way I do, do you feel like the Vibrant is the last Samsung device you'll ever buy?
I'm just curious and it might help me make a decision on buying any upcoming devices from Samsung. Also since I've learned that the new Sidekick is going to be a Samsung device, I'm already depressed about that one.
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If you feel the same way I do, do you feel like the Vibrant is the last Samsung device you'll ever buy?
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I will definitely be upgrading if possible. I love the vibrant, but I'm not sure if it will ever see 2.4. I remember reading somewhere that 2.4 will utilize hardware acceleration for the ui, I'm really looking forward to that.
This will be my next phone love the phone............
I'm currently trying to decide if I am going to upgrade to it or hold off for something else. I think it just depends on what else comes out at MWC and when the release date will be on the S II.
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It's between this and HDdesire2 similar specs HTC doesn't seem to have a ffc.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html
I bought the galaxy s cause it had the most powerful cpu in the bunch + screen. The s2 = better screen + 1gb ram + dual core processor that's better than the hummingbird and the mali400 gpu is way better than current sgx540. Overall, it'll be the most powerful device in terms of hardware, i'll find some way to afford one!!
But yes, i'm pissed about the updates, wish they'd just release the source for everything and let the community do it if they don't want to.
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It's not about buying it or not. That's a sure buy for me.
It's about when it'll be available on the T-Mo network. T-Mobile has its own 3G frequency(1700?) making buying a smartphone without this feature(i.e., that's not OEMed for T-Mo) a hard decision.
Im buying the first HSPA+, 4.3 inch Android phone T-Mo puts out. If this is it then ill be upgrading to this.
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I don't know... it is going to be sooooo expensive unless they subsidize it on T-Mo. Right now you can get a decent Vibrant off craigslist for $250 off contract. That's pretty unbeatable. I doubt I'll be getting one of these for at least a year.
i prob wont end up getting it, samsung ruined their phones for me!
My next phone. Perfect timing with tax time
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Thank you community! Your input is very helpful. I guess time will tell when it has a tmo version. If it costs to much then no, if the price is right then Yes! or I just get the sidekick as im getting sick and tired of this virtual keyboard lol.
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Never again. Fed up with Samsung and their wannabe-software.
Concentrate on what you know; hardware.
Im kind of up in the air...cool comes with 2.3 but 2.3 isn't that great that's why 2.4 is out in couple months to fix what issues 2.3 has and to add features 2.3 should have had if it wasn't rushed.
So who knows when it will get 2.4
If i do decided to get im getting a real galaxy s 2 and not from carrier one thing to wait from Samsung another to wait for tmobile on top of it
Depends on what HTC has available on T-Mobile, if somehow HTC puts out a competing phone it will be a tossup, but will come down to the screen size and how well SLCD holds up against SAMOLED
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If i do decided to get im getting a real galaxy s 2 and not from carrier one thing to wait from Samsung another to wait for tmobile on top of it
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My sentiments exactly. Straight from Sammy or no thank you.
Wow have you guys seen this video? Seems very laggy - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-official-tegra-2-4-3-inch-super-amoled-plu/
Getting a Windows Phone. Tired of dealing with manufacturer skins or crippled Nexus phones (i.e. Nexus S).
Also, why do people put up with the high rate at which Android Manufacturers cannibalize their devices.
Vibrant 4G may have good download speeds but who will want it if T-Mobile gets a Galaxy S II Variant - the same way some people are getting Nexus S due to the Vibrant's issues?
That's 4 new phones announced since the Vibrant was released... 6 months or so? And I'm ignoring it's sister phones on the ohter 3 major carriers and phones like the Continuum on Verizon...
It's hard for these non-Nexus devices to keep value when manufacturers are releasing new phones at such breakneck paces, and it makes it hard to commit to purchasing anything, since the chances of a better phone being released so soon is so high.
There's a reason why iPhones and even Windows phones are selling for more on eBay and CL than even high end Android phones...
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Wow have you guys seen this video? Seems very laggy - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-official-tegra-2-4-3-inch-super-amoled-plu/
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Par for the course...
The fanbois are running out of excuses. I wonder if they'll claim Android isn't optimized for Tegra II this time, like they did with the Hummingbird.
The issue was always Samsung's RFS and crappy TouchWiz. Why buy something with TouchWiz on it, and I wouldn't rule out RFS, either...
Also, is it just me or does that phone have some odd choices of pre-loaded applications... Vlingo, for example...
Looks like an iPhone 4, though.
I really wish they would get rid of the chrome and round out the phone little
like the NS but still looks nice
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Par for the course...
The fanbois are running out of excuses. I wonder if they'll claim Android isn't optimized for Tegra II this time, like they did with the Hummingbird.
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Tegra 2 guess was a typo its supposed to come with Samsung Exynos
either way 2.3 isn't even optimized for dualcore 2.4 is suppose to be

Should i buy this phone now or not?

I see that now one of the biggest moders like cyanogenmod and modaco are not developing things for this phone.
And the bootloader is still not hacked.
Im searching for a phone with big community, that have non stop roms and everything.. you know.. a good android phone.
I just don't know what to do, i need to buy a phone from USA now.
The only option is the Atrix ? And its sucks right now..
What to do ?
It doesn't suck.... you're just being super dranmatic
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278
This is help up?
If non stop roms is what makes a phone good to you, look elsewhere. This phone does not need an unlocked bootloader to kick most other phones asses.
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ofek said:
I see that now one of the biggest moders like cyanogenmod and modaco are not developing things for this phone.
And the bootloader is still not hacked.
Im searching for a phone with big community, that have non stop roms and everything.. you know.. a good android phone.
I just don't know what to do, i need to buy a phone from USA now.
The only option is the Atrix ? And its sucks right now..
What to do ?
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this phone is not for you. wait for the nexus S on at&t, the lg thrill, or the samsung galaxy S 2
Idk if this is an at&t specific thing but the thunderbolt looks really nice and if it is at&t the inspire isn't bad at all, I personally love my atrix, I came from a hd2(which was constant flashing) and a nexus one(which I flashed acouple of custom roms due to stability issues), but if the phone works right and does everything you want it to there's no real reason to want custom roms
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modaco already started its support for optimus 2x, and paul is really making good results for cwm.. the problem is that g2x is not out yet in the usa and has no confirmed release date yet.
i suggest just wait for possible phones that would be hack friendly w/ no locked bootloaders since you want lots of custom roms, probably g2x, samsung galaxy s2, lg thrill, the next nexus(nexus 2 probably?) or "some" phones from htc(i heard htc is going to be strict w/ their bootloaders on their future phones also )?
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I see that now one of the biggest moders like cyanogenmod and modaco are not developing things for this phone.
And the bootloader is still not hacked.
Im searching for a phone with big community, that have non stop roms and everything.. you know.. a good android phone.
I just don't know what to do, i need to buy a phone from USA now.
The only option is the Atrix ? And its sucks right now..
What to do ?
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Nexus s, g2, or inspire.
The atrix would be a better phone if it had more roms. I dont care too much for stock.
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I can't wait, need to buy it now, its my only chance.
Nexus S? G2 ?
One core devices ....
So to buy the Atrix?
In the future there will be a gingerbread update right? and 1080p too?
Also it will be a strong and good devices without many roms and kernels...
And maybe it will be fully hacked ha.?
What you say.. buy it or not?
I say buy it and I agree with the people above in support of buying it as well.
You can by mine off of me if you'd like
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I can't wait, need to buy it now, its my only chance.
Nexus S? G2 ?
One core devices ....
So to buy the Atrix?
In the future there will be a gingerbread update right? and 1080p too?
Also it will be a strong and good devices without many roms and kernels...
And maybe it will be fully hacked ha.?
What you say.. buy it or not?
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I guarantee you the nexus s along with others will contend with this phone in the long run. The atrix has lost more than once in dogfights and comparisons. Everyone makes it seem like if u have a single core phone than your simply outdated its just a matter of people wanting to play catch up. There are only 3 dual cores on the market right now.and most of the phones out now g2 nexus s inspire and 4g vibrant are considered better once rooted and hacked.
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charlieb620 said:
I guarantee you the nexus s along with others will contend with this phone in the long run. The atrix has lost more than once in dogfights and comparisons. Everyone makes it seem like if u have a single core phone than your simply outdated its just a matter of people wanting to play catch up. There are only 3 dual cores on the market right now.and most of the phones out now g2 nexus s inspire and 4g vibrant are considered better once rooted and hacked.
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if u feel like its ur only chance to get one now than shoot but there is barely any support for it kernel and rom wise. 2 roms are in developelment but they dont really enable much. Its a dual core whip out a rom or kernel that will blow other phones socks off. Have me running at 4.4ghz or something. My friends hacked mytouch 4g runs faster than the atrix and its single core lol
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I say go ahead and buy it. I originally came from the Evo and Sprint. I originally got the Atrix but then I swapped it for the Inspire. A couple weeks later I swappd the Inspire for an iPhone 4. About two days after, that I swapped the iPhone 4 back in for another Atrix. So I basically had a chance to try out 3 of the biggest phones on Att. The reason I came back to the Atrix is because first of all, its dual core. Even though the Inspire is a great phone, its single core. Its apps that's being developed that'll only work on dual core phones.
Another reason is speed and battery life. Both of which is really great on tge Atrix and blows away a lot of other phones.
Notice in my post I meantioned that I had the iphone for 2 days....that was all I needed to know I wasn't keeping that boring device.
I think the Atrix is already a great device despite not being able to flash rims at the current moment. Like I previously said the battery life is great and the speed is amazing. So if you don't mind running stock, then go for it.
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So if you don't mind running stock, then go for it.
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I mind !!!
I want cyanogenmod and roms and this stuff
So not to buy the Atrix? wait more ... and more .. oohhhh !!
ofek said:
I mind !!!
I want cyanogenmod and roms and this stuff
So not to buy the Atrix? wait more ... and more .. oohhhh !!
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Buy the inspire. I bought mine as a backup and haven't really touched it since installing CM7. Atrix runs fine with stock. I don't understand your need for roms when it performs fine out of the box.
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Don't just rush and get tgw Atrix,although I don't think we know enough to properly help you.
You said you need to get it "now", we know that,but how long are you going to be locked into the phone?
If you are just getting it foe the specs, you should really look at how you use the phone and see if dual cores is really something you want, because in my opinion (and I see myself as a heavy user) it isn't needed.
Unless you are playing Dungeon Defenders or other high end games, top tier single cored phones are good enough, don't just buy innto the hype of the specs tthat I and a lot of others did.
I got mine the day it came our here, used it, loved iit,compared to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, then took it back to ATT.
The 2.3.3 Nexus is just as fast doing pretty much everything; the battery lasts all day as well.
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You cannot legitimately compare the performance of two phones running different operating systems. The results are meaningless. Wait until the Atrix is running 2.3 and then it will be useful. I disagree that the single core phones will be equivalent under those conditions.
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I guarantee you the nexus s along with others will contend with this phone in the long run. The atrix has lost more than once in dogfights and comparisons. Everyone makes it seem like if u have a single core phone than your simply outdated its just a matter of people wanting to play catch up. There are only 3 dual cores on the market right now.and most of the phones out now g2 nexus s inspire and 4g vibrant are considered better once rooted and hacked.
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Well 2.3.3 isn't out for the Atrix right now so what are you going to do? I agree that it should be as level of a playing field but people are buying the phone right now.
Motorollla could have waited until they got 2.3 on the phone but they chose to release it now and that's what we are comparing it to
Just because it is being compared aand falling up short because of the os doesn't mean you can just disregard the test all together.
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Wait for the HTC pyramid it looks like a badass
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Went from a nexus one to a samsung vibrant to atrix. Atrix by far has been the best experience so far. Zero lag.
The n1 had a ****ed up touch screen, even after replacement
Vibrant had awful awful gps and considerable lag compared to n1
Atrix has solved all these problems, and I could give a **** about specs. This phone just works. Just try it before you buy it. I used to load custom roms on ntt previous two phones, but that was because they needed augmentation, this phone does not. Really the build quality is right up there with the n1 or the incredible. My phone has been on for 1 day and five hours, still got ten percent battery left. Been connected to wifi the entire time. I bought the phone yesterday so you know I've been using it.
Amazing, love the high resolution, so much more breathing room. My 2 cents.
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Sgs2 or what?

I was just wondering what phone you guys are waiting for, I'm personally waiting for the sgs2, hopefully it comes out soon enough. Seems mostly everyone has gone to the g2x already.
if they did go for the g2x already i feel sorry for them in my opinion. ive seen the reviews and no way is it even close to sg2 not even close to htc sensation. im gonna get either one of those, preferable sg2!
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if they did go for the g2x already i feel sorry for them in my opinion. ive seen the reviews and no way is it even close to sg2 not even close to htc sensation. im gonna get either one of those, preferable sg2!
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That's exactly what i'm thinking, the g2x isn't that great, I think most people got it because the guy who made cm7 has one also.
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That's exactly what i'm thinking, the g2x isn't that great, I think most people got it because the guy who made cm7 has one also.
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Precisely.
The reason why a lot of people have gone towards the g2x is the big support from the Dev community. Unlocked bootloader + source has already been released.
Not to mention sg2 has no release date for the u.s, others couldn't wait.
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The reason why a lot of people have gone towards the g2x is the big support from the Dev community. Unlocked bootloader + source has already been released.
Not to mention sg2 has no release date for the u.s, others couldn't wait.
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These are reasons why people in this community would buy or take a long look at it, seems like a good phone and most reviews are quite good. Samsung and there slow updates, and lack of source make a tough phone for developers and now that HTC and Moto are locking their bootloaders, its gets harder to dev's to make the fun they make.
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Definitely an HTC
I had the choice of G2 or Vibrant me thinking Awesome hardware=better than G2.
I was wrong.
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im thinking of getting the sgs2 or sensation...
#neveragain
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Hands Down SGS2, I love being able to tinker, but even if I cant I love samsung hardware. I gotta say for support though, LG or HTC
I never understood the craze over the g2. Is there something with current roms that you don't like?
Idk about craze over the G2, but it is a fantastic phone, especially for emulators in my opinion, but thats because you can get some nice clocks outta the CPU. I got one (well, not mine, I tinker with my friends) running @ 1.8ghz, and thats pretty sexy playing OOT on there perfectly (almost) In regards to roms, you mean for vibrant? I have no problem with anyones work =) just prefer my own I'm working on =P
I understand that the G2, and all second gen snapdragons for that matter, can clock high, but is there any application other than emulators that use that power. After all, developers have to take care of both the low and high end phones. Plus, you are killing the lifespan of the CPU and lowering your battery life.
The vibrant runs fine on 2.2.1 and is helped by Samsung's GPU acceleration implementation in both the launcher and browser. And once the i9000 gingerbread roms start rolling out, we can only expect greater speed and stability.
Mostly people suffer from nuevo-addiction and waiting is just too much. Also, alot of people who have phones I have noticed once the phone becomes bugfree with lots of support they bail for a new phone to conquer the new phone system.
I am waiting for the S2
if you've got the money why nit? if I'm a millionaire I would buy all the latest android phone.
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SGS2
Most likely a better processor (as long as we don't get the Tegra2 version)
SAMOLED plus
more RAM
G2X then SGS2!
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I'm looking forward to the sensation. The galaxy s2 wont be significantly better in terms of hardware, and I've got a real bad taste in my mouth from the lack of support my vibrant has received from Samsung. Locked bootloader or not, the sensation is still a pretty good looking phone that I'm sure will perform well.
Worst case scenario, I buy the sensation, hate it and return within 14 days, wait for something else to be released. My vibrant and hd2 should keep me happy until I find something great.
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I've got a real bad taste in my mouth from the lack of support my vibrant has received from Samsung.
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To me the problem is buying a carrier altered edition of the phone. The international GS seems to get upgrades just fine. They don't have to wait on Samsung AND then the retarded carriers with all their alterations and other BS. That's what owning my Vibrant has taught me. 100% international & unlocked only from here on in. I'll be buying the International SGS2 as soon as I can, no US version for me ever again.
all i want is a new google nexus phone with a notification led duel cameras with flash and a duel core processor then ill be happy

Would a Hercules sgs2 become like Vibrant? Unsupported or updated..?

Okay, others have asked prime or hercules, and my real question that would determine which I choose.. our vibrants had REAL potential. No less than the new phone should have, just lesser hardware. All of the sgs1 us versions seem to have no support or updates except what you find on here(after a few months).
Will the hercules have the same fate? Is there any reason to believe they won't do the same thing again? I don't want to spend another 500+ on a device they forget about a few months after they release it. Would you take the chance seeing their track record with our phone and variants?
The most odd thing is that the international versions seem to be better supported(the i9100 more than i9000), so is the problem that they don't want to waste their resources keeping 4 different models of the phone updated in the US? And could they possibly keep the hardware on the us variants close enough spec wise that they could work on an upgrade for all versions, and just tweak each for specific devices?
I know there are no solid answers out there, but I am more wondering what the community here thinks.
Most likely not this happened do to the SGS4G came out if something similar happens again but you know that is why there is xda an the cyanogen team so don't worry
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Not sure what the guy above wrote, but yes it will happen again. I dont think its sammys fault completly. More so the US carriers. My next phone will either be a nexus/htc/motoroogle.
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Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
From what I have read this far the sg2 will be replaced by the sg2 plus to match the nexus prime's screen resolution. Because of that fact I will not buy sg2 as well the nexus phone will be the last sammy phone because google just acquired motorola. So the next google phone will be a motorola.
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Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
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Well the nexus got updates quicker and I constantly see(via news readers) most phones getting updates regardless of carrier.
What the jasonhunterx said(that I could understand) about having xda or cyanogen is opposite of ideal.. where would our devices be if we got a source from Samsung for gingerbread? Miles ahead, everything working, less headaches for developers and users..
But I don't see this as something the carrier is responsible for unless the manufacturer made an agreement with them, which would border on crooked.
I would have bought the sgs2 if it wasn't with att bands.. and there's no promise that the prime will be offeres as a T-Mobile phone.
If the prime doesn't hit T-Mobile and the Hercules is doomed to make the same mistakes, what phone would you get to stay with tmo? Is there an international phone that has the right bands and can compare to sgs2, Hercules, or prime?
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Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
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Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
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And if Samsung makes the prime? Or if tmo doesn't get the prime? That is the question.
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I believe that the Hercules will have much better support. In my opinion, just like the second poster said, they stopped supporting the vibrant because tmo launched its new "4g" service not too long after the vibrant dropped. So unless 5g comes out a week after the Hercules, I don't think we should have anything to worry about. I hope.......
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Of course its going to happen.
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Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
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Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
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There's like 2 of those
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kaintfm said:
Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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There are phones running 1.5 stable, but that isn't a reason it shouldn't be upgraded to whatever it can run. Take the Motorola droid. I have no idea what they updated to, but the og droid has run cyanogen stable far before our vibrant could run it at all. It is a solid phone, and wasn't "discarded" by the manufacturer soon after the release. They did a good job I heard.
The sgs1 branded phone is capable of more than the current generation of android. The iphone, with all the things I don't like about the way they do their phones, supports multiple generations of their products for multiple years. Our phones shouldn't be 2 generations of os behind with no real hope of an upgrade within a year of coming out.
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pretty sure yes, so if u want a SGS II get the "international' version
for me NO MORE US VERSION of any Samsung phone
I think the Hercules will be the lower of the other sgs2 variants nothing will be easy just as the vibrant was full of great dev but nothing to work with but the same stuff. GB has came a long way we thought that was going to be a easy port, lol I really hope they at least get the gps right on the sgs2 this run. End of rant ;-)
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I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
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adamcooks said:
I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
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2nd this. Same ol from Samsung/T-Mobile. Going HTC prime or iphone next round.
Yes i am quite sure that these phones will not get the support that the unbranded version will get...
A company like Apple has a tough time supporting a couple of devices then just imagine how difficult it is for samsung to provide great support for the 50-60 phones it dishes out every year
No support for Hercules. It's Vibrant/Galaxy S 1 all over again. Each of the carriers releasing a different variant of a phone that was released months ago in Europe. You'd be crazy to buy a Hercules or other SGS2 phone. Just what was the reason for the delay? Carrier customizations, more than likely. And the fact that it took them so long to release the US variants does not speak well for future updates.

Looking for advice for my next phone

It seems that Cyanogenmod will not be bringing their next generation (ICS) to the Vibrant. While I really like the Vibrant, perhaps it is time to think about moving on.
Are there any recommendations for where I should be looking. Here would be my considerations:
- I like the hardware features (screen size and resolution and 16GB memory)
- I want the phone to have full Cyanogenmod support
- Cyanogenmod support should include a good gps and battery life (both of which are shortcomings for the Vibrant)
- I need to stick with TMobile
- And, I don't want the phone to cost an arm and a leg
Any thoughts, ideas, advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Nexus. Nothing else needs to be said. But if it does not come to to tmobile, I would lean towards HTC, they seem to be able to at least update phones.
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I agree. Nexus should be #1 on your list if you want support and like the Vibrant. The HTC Amaze just came out on T-Mobile and has impressive hardware specs and is on the list from HTC to get the ICS update. It also has a 8MP camera with instant picture taking like the Nexus. I would imagine that Cyanogenmod will put out a mod for it. Though any new phones will need some time to see if CM will support it.
The Galaxy Nexus is a pentaband phone, so even if T-Mobile doesn't get it, it'll still run on their network. I normally tell people to get the phone that they like the best. Not everyone is an uber android geek. I told a buddy of mine to get the Droid Charge, he loves the thing. If he waited for the Galaxy Nexus, he'd be disappointed. It's personal preference.
It sounds like you like to tinker. People that like to tinker need a Nexus device because they'll always be the ones with the most support and the smoothest Android experience. I love my Vibrant, it was my first Android device. I'll probably always hold onto it as a backup phone with Stock Froyo + WiFi Calling, but in the future I'll most likely stick to Nexus devices.
Decide what you care about the most and less about hardware/appearance. If you want a custom experience more than what a manufacturer's android experience is, then go for a Nexus with optimized hardware. There are a lot of really nice, very cool phones out there but in terms of longevity of future up to date use, Nexus wins 10 times out of 10.
Also, I wouldn't buy a device based on the promise of updates. Carriers may intend to update a device, but several things can hinder that intention. In all reality, if an upgrade to ICS doesn't come until next August, well, what's the point? Remember, for a long time it looked like Samsung assumed that T-Mobile would want the Vibrant updated, and it didn't happen. There have several devices through the years that were suppose to be updated and never were. Always buy a phone for what it is, not what a carrier says it should be.
Regarding Galaxy Nexus being penta band, doesn't it mean only GSM is supported in 5 bands and not 3G? Why would Samsung build AWS band in a world phone for couple of carriers.
tmobil sgs2
What do you think of the T-Mobile sgs2? Will it get ice or will it end up being forgotten like the vibrant? Seems to me the T-Mobile sgs2 is more powerful than the nexus hardware wise
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Higher specs are irrelevant. I'm sure it needs them to push TouchWiz. There is one device ICS is optimized for, and that's the Galaxy Nexus.
1) It's not Samsung that will abandon the SGS, it's T-Mobile
2) If you chase spec sheets you'll be replacing devices every 3-6 months.
Also, manufacturers are going to want to want their frameworks on top of ICS. There's no reference point for how ICS will look or run with TouchWiz, Sense or Motoblur on top of it. You have to go with what you know, not what you think you can assume.
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Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
aliveu7 said:
Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
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Your advice is based on a "think" without any leak information of a virtual phone
nexus or tmobil sgs2! stay away from amaze
iPhone 5 will be my next device. too tempted by androids openness to play around with all the roms out there. iPhone will take that choice away and simplify things. also would play nicer with my Mac. my MacBook hates the vibrant it seems.
aliveu7 said:
Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
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Christmas 2012 maybe.
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I read a USA today article and the Guy was using it and he said he was using it on T-Mobile and it also has att bands so its merger proof.
Amaze hands down.
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Amaze hands down.
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Hate to step on your sneakers and have you try kill me but, at 250 and that's with a new contract 559 without ouch. Check out the forums not much support yet... S2 has more devs...
I want an HTC Sense phone.
Used AOSP, Touchwiz and MotoBlur....but never SENSE (except for on G1)
Maybe quad core
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Get a nexus s!!
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manus ferrera said:
I read a USA today article and the Guy was using it and he said he was using it on T-Mobile and it also has att bands so its merger proof.
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Lol u r smart
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Hate to step on your sneakers and have you try kill me but, at 250 and that's with a new contract 559 without ouch. Check out the forums not much support yet... S2 has more devs...
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way more devs! and cm7

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