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Is the htc legend future proof?

already it seems the htc legend is missing out on features compared to the N1 and desire because of its inferior specs.
one of them is the Live Wallpapers which is just a gimmick BUT it's a display of what the phone is capable of.
and Google Earth seems to not work on the legend also due to the inferior specssssssssssssssssssssssssss..........
Now the phone new and already it is not capable of running some things.
I get the feeling that we will begin to see more and more apps in the future that the phone will not be able to handle.. i also wonder if there are any apps that im unaware of that are currently needing the superior processors.
for those of you in the "legend vs. desire brain fu*k", leaning towards legend, i apologise if this has put you back at square one. Im in the same boat. because the desire is long and ugly like peter crouch.

i dont Know what to buy too im not an Apple fan boy but when they make a new device it is the one to have. htc make good things but im very disappointed to have to choose between an ugly monster and a beautiful device but not so good...

i'm worried its screen resolution limits its full potential......

Got my Legend two weeks now an everything runs smooth!
No lag since it has dedicated GPU. As for the Live Wallpapers rooting will come
and you can install them. Hero can run Live Wallpapers why should legend be any different?

DeeJayDark UE said:
Got my Legend two weeks now an everything runs smooth!
No lag since it has dedicated GPU. As for the Live Wallpapers rooting will come
and you can install them. Hero can run Live Wallpapers why should legend be any different?
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because it has a much weaker chipset?

No, Legend has a much better chipset than the Hero.

-MojaV- said:
No, Legend has a much better chipset than the Hero.
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i was talking compared to desire i didnt realise he said hero. i doubt hero runs smooth with live wallpapers when it hardly runs smooth anyway.

I miss the google earth on legend....

I think Legend is capable of runing google earth, but that the program itself is bugged or dont let the legend use it.
There is many apps that dont work on legen, nexus etc but we all know they are capable. I think earth will get an update that fixes it on the legend, the gpu is capable to deal with it or, at the least, start it. I think google has done something to prevent earth on legend atm.

I'm perfectly happy with my Legend. Believe me, working in the mobile industry I have been through a few different models for sure, I've had the best, the worst and the bizarre at some point...
If the phone you have bought does everything you want to do today, then you have made a good purchase and will no doubt be happy with it.
If the phone you bought today will hopefully do everything that the future brings, you made a mistake my friend and I suggest you return it.
In terms of mobile phone technology, there is no future-proof.

Man there is a new phone out every quarter so I'd so no.
Nothing in tech is future proof .

first time i post on forums and i post to sat That i think legend is a pretty good smartphone if You wanna be future safe
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HTC Tattoo vs Wildfire

I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!

dom_b said:
I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!
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wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch

alberto88a said:
wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch
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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.

Maybe that "bit more RAM" is necessary to have 2.1 and sense working fine.
But i'm not sure

dom_b said:
Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.
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yes but in my opinion it won't arrive!
instead htc assured froyo for device from genuary 2010 excluding tattoo that exited on november/december 2009 -.-
i'm not talking about hardware that is almost the same but the support won't be the same for these devices...
do not forget wildfire start with a 2.1 upgradeable to 2.2
and the cost is almost the same for both devices...

Not from HTC it won't... but the development team here are almost there anyway so hopefully a fully working ROM will be here soon without the need for HTC!
And I think you're missing my point. Im just saying that the new device is basically the same as the Tattoo. Im not saying sombody should go out now and buy a Tattoo, that would be stupid lol.

HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.

People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...

TheSSJ said:
People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...
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Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.

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not development related moved

Coburn64 said:
HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.
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I couldn't say that any better. 100% agree. I think there are basicly two type of needs/users.
One is what I call the "leisure" user (that could be myself on week ends) who wants a ample web browsing, full multimedia, multiple messaging (SMS's and chat), gaming, and so on. For these users, iPhone 3g/3gs/4, Nexus One, or alike any of both is the choice.
Another one is my so called "working" user (myself monday to friday), when your needs are mostly email (mostly exchange and push), quick browsing, mapping or navigation, shopping lists, to do lists, calendars, reminders, transportation routing or schedule querying, not too ambicious web browsing, some music/sudokuing is well appreciated. For this use, Tattoo-like->Wildfire is simply perfect: does it all, with no excess luggage (weight/size).
I don't know if I should say pitty or shame on HTC for releasing a device that in a very few months will be improved to the obsolecense point. We all know that in consumer technology you will never catch up with the very best, but HTC guys, we should be happy at least for one year. Is it to ask for too much? Did they invent the "decent camera" last week so it is just now that you could include it in your phones, or couldn't you do that on the Tattoo? And cant't you upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2? You HTC want to tell us that you can't do what some cooks on XDA have already done? I am certain that these guys are very well prepared, qualified and smart, no doubt on it, but what they do is some kind of hobby on their spare time, and they are charging not a cent!
Well, my hope like many others, is on these magnificent guys cooking new ROMs for all of us (hopefully we will have a 2.1 or 2.2 fully functional), and as some other dudes already have expressed, Tattoo might well be my last HTC device.

I think tattoo is lack of screen resolution and size of the screen other than it's good if you just work around with roms and install market patched hopefully soon we will have 2.2 or 2.1 fully working custom Roms with market patched and it will be really cool
But htc should do something about tattoo they can't just leave tattoo in blank

don't think on buying a wildfire. haven't you got enough with Tattoo? save some more money and buy a nexus one or an iphone, they are truly speedy and better quality

Coburn64 said:
Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.
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HTC Officially released Android froyo (2.2) update for wildfire in europe. Just check below link,
http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx?type=Others
Soon to india.. wait.

Hi all , bit of a dilemma .. x10 or HTC wildfire ........

Xda mobile

wildfire. All i have to say.

I had a x10 but sold it and got a wildfire.
The x10 is nice but no custom roms at all as the bootloader is not cracked. Also the x10 has a 4" screen but no multi touch, which for certain stuff suck, i use the snes emulator for example and it is unusable on the x10 as are most good games. The wildfire is very moddable wearas the x10 is not. Lastly the wildfire is close to getting cyanogen rom for it, it will never happen on the x10 and wildfire is close to getting froyo and the x10 has not even got 2.1 yet.
Its upto you but for me the wildfire is much more versatile then the x10 will ever be(imo)

Cheers for that .....widfire it is then .........
Sent Xda mobile

I vote for Wildfire. I'm pleased with it.

This little phone (wildfire) is just amazing. Today I visited a local store to see what is available. There were many phones from Nokia to Samsung, including the wonderkid Samsung Galaxy S. I dont know what it was. I knew Galaxy S had all yhe bells and whistles but I would not get it to replace my wildfire. Maybe it was the size, or the touchwiz overlay. But I am very happy with my wildfire ..
So I recommend wildfire
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Me and the other half upgraded a month ago, She got the Wildfire and I got the Desire, I have to say, they're both epic devices.
Her wildfire goes a couple of days without a charge and does pretty much everything with ease, and hopefully with 2.2 around the corner, things will only get better. All in all it's a great little device.
I'd recommend the Wildfire over the X10 a) Because I've used the Wildfire a lot, and b) I've not heard great things about the X10 and I've also read on here how much of a pain in the arse they are!
Phil

cheers kerman....im getting desire tomorrow and looks like i will be getting the wildfire for my son now
cheers

[Q] HTC wildfire or HTC desire

Hi everybody,
I would like to buy a nw phone because the tattoo is good but... won't be upgraded correctly to android 2.1 or 2.2. Sometimes it's slow, bugging (e.g.: rebooting while installing the update of google maps, ...)
I was thinking about buying either the HTC Desire or the HTC Wildfire. However, I don't know which one to take
Could you give some advice?
Thanks ;-)

have you got the money? if you do, get the htc desire - higher res screen, bigger screen, can play games better, but the wildfire has better battery life.

Hey,
Yes, I've got the money (if my renovation budget is correct ).
Indeed, Desire is better than Wildfire. But I wanted to ask the question because I was disappointed with the Tattoo (no focus for the cam, for example)

I'm very happy with the Desire that I have - someone at work though is getting the Desire HD today - I can't wait to see all the HTCSense.com stuff on it... but still think i'd rather just stick with my Desire Original

HTC Desire HD seems really nice but really too expensif.

lol Wildfire vs Desire? Even the Wildfire designer will tell you to buy a Desire...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3337&idPhone2=3077
You can't compare them...
P.s. i have the Wild but if i will ever have that kind of money, i'll buy the Desire.

well, I just bought the Desire ;-)
It was in promotion "-15%" if I gave another cellphone.
The HTC Desire was originally at 429€ and I gave a Nokia 6110 and got 64€ back I'm so happy
The Desire is REALLY nice !
Thanks for your advises ;-)

its always the money problem which brings everyone to the wildfire

Yes, I agree with you.
I saw the Desire Hd and it seems to be better than the normal one. but the price is scary... 599€... for a phone

Desire, hands down.
Choose wildfire if you don`t have the cash, think that the Desire is too big, or if you don`t want to loose a lot of money in case of theft/loosing the phone.

I only wanted a entry level android phone and HTC Wildfire for a 17yr old teenager is good investment

definately desire. I m soon ex-wildfire user

Xperia X12 Arc vs. Desire HD

The new SE Xperia Arc looks good.
Opinions on which one you would choose...

Personally I will never again buy a Sony Ericsson phone. Ever! Not after the debacle that was the X10.
They have a horrible habit of messing the software up in a big way and then taking ages - if at all - to fix it.
Nah, I'll definitely stick with my DHD I think
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

i got rid of my SEx10 for my DHD, now the wait for the 2.1 upgrade for my X10 was well worth it but , i think im going to stick to my DHD for the time being as the ARC would be good should you want an upgrade

Sony means good hardware and horrible software support. By the time Gingerbread was releasing they were finally getting around to updating the X10 to Eclair.
If you are ok with being stuck with the same software version for the next two years I'd say go Sony.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.

The Arc looks like a great handset but Sony (along with Samsung and LG in my experience) seem to have a history of failing to support their phones as soon as new ones come out... so personally I'd rule it out because of that.
Still, who needs manufacturer support when we have XDA

I had to get rid of my X10 too, i would not recommend getting an SE phone, at least not at launch.
The x10 was a joke. (Although still the best looking phone ive seen to date)

i have to be honest the Arc was tempting me. It looks absolutely awesome, it has HDMI out which i really wish the DHD could have, and it has this really hyped up camera technology which is great for low light photos i hear (SE cameras are great in general). Also people are praising the screen which is using bravia technology.
But alas, sony's really poor support with software, and thir god aweful ui on their phones is keeping me from getting one. I hear the X10 still doesnt have custom roms on it yet. that's another major drawback for it imo.
I'll be sticking with HTC for now.

Having only just got rid of the x10, i feel sony was a really big let down....custom roms are only just turning up, unlocking the bootloader looks to be very long way away. and the kernel which at this mo can still not be flashed and is holding what could of been a great phone back.Not many Devs working on the handset so it will take longer.
Sony are ment to have good cameras but the x10 was ok ish..

SunjinSak said:
Personally I will never again buy a Sony Ericsson phone. Ever! Not after the debacle that was the X10.
They have a horrible habit of messing the software up in a big way and then taking ages - if at all - to fix it.
Nah, I'll definitely stick with my DHD I think
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Exactly what I was thinking.
I mean don't get me wrong the X12 looks amzing and feature packed but after what happened to the X10 I don't think I can trust SE again with software updates.
There have been a lot of cool phones been announced at CES but tbh no other manufacturer has made a phone that I personally would want to buy, i'm stuck on HTC! I am really happy with the desire HD!

The main reason for xda exsisted was HTC phones, no other phones gets as much support dev wise, that why I always buy HTC, of course they great hardware and experience. Samsung come a close 2nd these days.
But Sony Arc and even LG Star might look like great phones but with no community support, they are dead in my eyes.
The only other phone I'd consider which isn't HTC or Sammy would be Atrix the new moto phone, but then again moto in Europe has poor support, and they tend have stupid bootloader.

i have a contract up in april and i think i will get the LG star the screen looks so good and a good battery music to my ears
also just incase you think i am anti HTC i have DHD my wife has desire and my little girl has my old HD2 running cm7 gingerbread on nand.

i dumped my x10 after their growing debate on multi touch and its poor battery life
ever since i gotten my DHD i'm so pleased i finally got HTC sense + the HTC keyboard that i didn't need to hack to get
don't think i'll switch back unless the arc has a better battery, i'm not too pleased with my DHD's battery

My wife will be getting the Arc on release as if she got a DHD she would always be confusing hers for mine (as she tends to lose hers a few times a day!).
I'm looking forward to having a play on it. I doubt very much it'd be worth an upgrade from a DHD, but for people on a Desire or below it might be worth a shout. Wife is still on a Hero, so should be a nice big upgrade for her.

dazultra2000 said:
My wife will be getting the Arc on release as if she got a DHD she would always be confusing hers for mine (as she tends to lose hers a few times a day!).
I'm looking forward to having a play on it. I doubt very much it'd be worth an upgrade from a DHD, but for people on a Desire or below it might be worth a shout. Wife is still on a Hero, so should be a nice big upgrade for her.
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Especially true if she isn't an uber geek like most of us are. Normal people aren't overly concerned about being stuck on, say Eclair, if Eclair is providing for them the functionality they require.
However if you know about these forums and frequent them I will bet money you are not a normal user so in that case the X12 is still a bit of a gamble for reasons already discussed. I for one am confident that we will get official Gingerbread with HTC sense this quarter and it wouldn't surprise me if the Desire got it in short order too.
As for X12 users they may well be stuck on Gingerbread forever. That wouldn't be a bad thing because its hard fault Gingerbread it feels like the coming of age for Android to me but when Honeycomb comes I will want it even if the new features don't change the way I use my phone on a daily basis, only because I am a geek and want new features to play with.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.

Until Sony releasing an android walkman, am sticking to desire HD
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

dr.m0x said:
Especially true if she isn't an uber geek like most of us are. Normal people aren't overly concerned about being stuck on, say Eclair, if Eclair is providing for them the functionality they require.
However if you know about these forums and frequent them I will bet money you are not a normal user so in that case the X12 is still a bit of a gamble for reasons already discussed.
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Yeah, exactly. She won't even let me root her phone so I can put FroYo on it! She even refused to put the OTA to 2.1 on until I begged her as it would fix the things she was moaning about!
So I think the Arc will probably be ideal for her. I'm sticking to my S-OFF, Rooted DHD though

There is a video of the arcs UI in action in engadget and let's just say Sony is still bad with software it looks very slow and lags a bit in the video. I guess don't might work it out before release but the if the x10 is any thing to go buy then I would advise to stay away from the arc.
Imo Sony and any compact for that matter would sell loads more units if they would just put stock android builds on their devices as it stands only HTC sense seems decent and even then I'd prefer stock
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I will not buy a SonyEricsson any time soon again...
I have my X10 lying in a drawer only as a toy, and spare phone...
The fact that Sonyericsson is lightyears behind HTC with firmware and other software, and the fact that they abandon a device like the flagship x10 after only 8 month on the marked, speak for it self...
And when they say that the new ARC is 4 times faster than the old x10, they hide the fact that the x10 also could be more than 4 times faster with optimized and new firmware...! the xda devs have proved that already...
Sonyericsson say they never will update the x10 to android 2,3 or even to 2,2, as they say that the users will gain nothing from that...
So x10 will be stuck on android 2,1...
And ARC users need to expect the same will happen to them also, don't expect to get newer firmware than what you buy the phone with...
The ARC don't even have dualcore, that many other manufacturs are planning to send out now...
I will personal NOT buy it, I would look at the LG X2 or wait for HTC to send out new handsets...
Buy a Sonyericsson and expect to get ****ed by them...
..
Sent from my Desire HD running CM7/PNK9 B)

Never buy or wait for a smartphone from SE. it is simply not worth it.
they promise you whatever you want to hear/read but they fail to deliver in all categories. i bought a p990i and and xperia-x1 and the story is always the same: first they announce a model, then they move the release over and over again up to 6-12 months. they rarely make more then 1 update/hotfix. they fail to upgrade the OS in a reasonable time (if they even consider it). they drop support on phones pretty fast.
service, support and updates: FAIL
i did observe this on: p990i, p1, x1, x10 ...
they even released android 1.6 phones in the US after most other companys switched to frojo ...
-QuadWord

Dual cures core phones are not exciting me much at all. They are worthless until there is an Android os which is optimized for them, and apps won't benefit until they are optimized for dual core.
Just like when the first 64 bit desktop cpu came out. Most people were still using 32 bit os on them until very recently because most software was and still is 32 bit anyway.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.