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I have one big problem. I am using Polaris/HTC Touch Cruise with latest WM 6.1 offical release. I have installed IGO 8.31. I have constantly GPS signal losing. GPS signal (all satelites)just disappear and then is back. About 30 sec I have GPS signal and then is about 30 sec.with no GPS signal. Basicly this software works just fine on my Polaris, but I can't use software because of this GPS signal disappearing problem.
Google maps works just fine, with no GPS signal dissapearing problem. I have 3-7 satelites all the time.
So I think that there is not problem with my device. I think that there is some problem with com ports.
Can somebody please help me
Thanks in advance.
Maybe a radio problem with your ROM. There is a newer ons... its in M'amine ROM post..: 1.59.42.23
Hard Reset
Some time (most of the times ) you need to consider one of the options:
1. Hard reset and before reconfigure your device - see if the IGO works fine
2. change ROM - since different ROM behave differently regurding your device
3. upgrade to IGO 8.0.4 - since 8.0.3 is known as problematic since 6.1
He means iGo 8.3, not 8.0.3 There is such a release but IT'S ONLY FOR PNA. Some ppl got it working on PDA, but well....many things don't work as expected. Animated menus crash the program etc. So go back to 8.0.4 and forget about those 07.08 maps for some weeks
Maybe upgrading the radio ROM might help...
forget the version 8.31
use the 8.0.0.54000
this works
the new version hav a lot of bugs and can't use the generic skins, maps, ....
there are more bugs as the version 8.0.0.54000
you ca trust me
(i test the new version for 2 days .....)
cu camel
camro said:
forget the version 8.31
use the 8.0.0.54000
this works
the new version hav a lot of bugs and can't use the generic skins, maps, ....
there are more bugs as the version 8.0.0.54000
you ca trust me
(i test the new version for 2 days .....)
cu camel
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Bullsjit! The 8.3.xxxx version is way better then the previous one. I suggest u do a hard reset, install iGO8.3 and see if it works...
Upgrade your radio to version 1.59.42.23. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379599 I use Khanx 1.4 with igo8.3xxx and TT7 and it works perfectly.
Maps is no problem: just follow this link: http://http://volny.cz/sstopar/mio_mapy_igo8.html and download the 2008.07 maps. They only works with Igo8.3xxx
For plugins en speedcams check this site:
http://http://www.i-go8.com/
Hope it works; otherwise PM me for some additional "questions".
Thanks guys for all answers.
I tested almost all 6.1 ROMs and both radios.
The problem is same with all ROMs an radios.
I prefer 8.31, because of Slovenia 08.07 map. This map have 72% coverage for Slovenia. Is almost perfect and works just with 8.31 version of IGO.
All earlier maps have about 40% coverage.
And I really have no more ideas why is this GPS problem.
And yes, 8.31 version is best till now. This version have some "reality view".
Someone told me that I must completely dissable A-GPS function, but in registry I can see that A-GPS is set to 0. So I think that already is dissabled.
gregy74 said:
Thanks guys for all answers.
I tested almost all 6.1 ROMs and both radios.
The problem is same with all ROMs an radios.
I prefer 8.31, because of Slovenia 08.07 map. This map have 72% coverage for Slovenia. Is almost perfect and works just with 8.31 version of IGO.
All earlier maps have about 40% coverage.
And I really have no more ideas why is this GPS problem.
And yes, 8.31 version is best till now. This version have some "reality view".
Someone told me that I must completely dissable A-GPS function, but in registry I can see that A-GPS is set to 0. So I think that already is dissabled.
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I am using iGo 8.3.1 (sep25) with new maps and don't have any problems, working perfectly fine. Better than version 8.0.0.54000, which used to crash a lot and never worked. Using udK's R0 and radio that came with that.
Hi, everyone, I'm using the latest touch navia 1.4 pro and the iGO 8.3.1, the program seems to install fine, but hangs on for forever every time I try to run it. The radio is 1.59.42.23 and the only thing that comes to my mind is that i've put some of the content from (neither maps nor poi's) the previous version into this one, can anyone suggest something else to get it working?
Try a clean install. iGo 8.3 works perfectly for me with KhanX 1.4 Navia ROM.
Alright, worked as a clean install (with a file downloaded from a different source) after a hard reset. This was a really clean install - all the additional files (maps, buildings, etc) were added later, and it works. Thanks for advice
Sorry, don't work with clean install and Knax 1.4 ROM.
How can I completely dissable A-GPS?
Thanks
Hi guys.
I found solution for my problem.
Seems that this version of Igo don't keep GPS signal active (problem with internal GPS). You must run some another application in background, google maps,holdux,... to keep GPS signal active all the time.
But the easiest way is this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17072
Thanks for help
gregy74 said:
Hi guys.
I found solution for my problem.
Seems that this version of Igo don't keep GPS signal active (problem with internal GPS). You must run some another application in background, google maps,holdux,... to keep GPS signal active all the time.
But the easiest way is this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17072
Thanks for help
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Strange.. i dont have this problem...
I also have IGO 8.31 and I confirm that it works fine on my Polaris.... there is indeed a number of bugs but compared to 8.0 it's better.
i was testing igo 8.3.1 and i have to admit, that maps are impressive
i had no any problems with software stability, connection loosing or so
only thing i had to change was keeping tc alive - change setting responsible for power management in igo (default was stupid...)
unfortunately gps was inaccurate and had huge delay - sa there was no point to use it at all for example even with "high accuracy" my position on map ware jumping around my real location for few hundred meters (with or without "keep on road" setting active) and, on the move, igo was showing were i was about 15 sec ago (kinda off...)
definitely that's not stable version for pda
strongly unrecommend
nimal said:
i was testing igo 8.3.1 and i have to admit, that maps are impressive
i had no any problems with software stability, connection loosing or so
only thing i had to change was keeping tc alive - change setting responsible for power management in igo (default was stupid...)
unfortunately gps was inaccurate and had huge delay - sa there was no point to use it at all for example even with "high accuracy" my position on map ware jumping around my real location for few hundred meters (with or without "keep on road" setting active) and, on the move, igo was showing were i was about 15 sec ago (kinda off...)
definitely that's not stable version for pda
strongly unrecommend
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that's what i said on post 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2882539&postcount=6
well - some guys thinking to knowing it better ...
of course , there are some good features .. but more new bugs .... and forgotten fixing of old bugs ... ;-(
I used iGO 8.3.1 series for a week but just had to revert back to the older versions. On the whole it worked OK, no bugs, and I love the way it would display the large road signs when passing junctions on major roads, but, it was the routing, it was completely bizarre. Everything was set-up as with earlier versions but it used to take me, or try to take me completely different ways, and not even by a little, I mean major diversions within my town where I've lived all my life, and thus its usage became unbearable.
Hopefully this was just a 'one-off' so I'll give later versions a try when released.
hi,
i don't now if this is the right forum to ask for this question
i have installed froyo 2.2 on my hd2, i have one problem, and that is with the Gps i can't get any signal it just seeking and seeking, when i go in to google maps or navigation, could anybody help me with that problem
Did you make sure that GPS is enabled? Do you have a clear view of the sky? What build of froyo specifically are you running? What radio?
I'm running Bangsters 1.2a and it takes forever to find a GPS signal, but especially with Google apps. Waze seems to fair a bit better, but no where as fast as back in WinMo.
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Did you make sure that GPS is enabled? Do you have a clear view of the sky? What build of froyo specifically are you running? What radio?
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yes i turn gps on and i can see in top op the screen that it is seeking, i have tried outside, inside but same result.
iam running this http://gamesquare.co.uk/froyo.html but it stands version 2.2 in my phone. and radio 2.12.50.02_2
but can it be because i run dutty's leo sense as winmo os
Thats strange. If I were you I'd just keep trying different radio/rom/android build combinations. If you never get it working then it may be a hardware issue.
Where are you located? In many (most/all?) builds if you're not in the U.S. you have to edit the gps.conf file to give the gps your region.
Start here and see if it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7278623&postcount=1
It's probably related to the gps.conf, search for more information if it still doesn't work. The HD2 gps locks on quite fast with the a-gps assist. Faster than all of my pnd and golf gps devices except Garmin with its hotfix.
Could someone Tell me why GPS fix is so slow (with every android build yet)?? most times it takes 5-10 Minutes to find satellites with googlemaps /copilot .. is this a Known issue ?? My location is the Netherlands..
Do i need to set the something in the startup.txt ?
Get gps status from the market to download satellite information for a quicker fix, mine works in a matter of seconds
Even with GPS status.. the thing takes a long time to get a lock
Try the solution presented here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738982 and report.
What did the trick to me was:
1. Updating QuickGPS, on WinMO;
2. Installing GPS Status and downloading assistance data:
::: Settings&Configuration : GPS&Sensors: Manage AGPS data.
I am getting consistently fast locks now But what made the difference this time was updating QuickGPS on WinMo... Check my sig for details on my setup.
luigipirex said:
What did the trick to me was:
1. Updating QuickGPS, on WinMO;
2. Installing GPS Status and downloading assistance data:
::: Settings&Configuration : GPS&Sensors: Manage AGPS data.
I am getting consistently fast locks now But what made the difference this time was updating QuickGPS on WinMo... Check my sig for details on my setup.
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i think updating quickgps in winmo is useless for android. if this would help, it would mean that winmo and android access/have/share the same storage on the device for storing satellite data. winmo would store this in nand...
hebbe said:
i think updating quickgps in winmo is useless for android. if this would help, it would mean that winmo and android access/have/share the same storage on the device for storing satellite data. winmo would store this in nand...
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It certainly isn't useless, as many users have reported this as a solution. For me, it was the solution that definitely worked. I've tried every other method, including editing gps.conf file, using GPS status, etc, and the results weren't consistent. But after I updated my QuickGPS on WinMo, I have been getting consistent results, every time I try, as short as 5 seconds to get me a lock.
As you should know, some settings in WinMo still affect your hardware in Android: e.g., look at the "calibrate g-sensor in WinMo" recommendation. I think this is also the case with GPS.
But! what you can do in wimo is also possible in Android: getting AGPS... with GPS status..
so getting Agps information is not the problem here..
Possibility's
The radio ? with some radios with my winmo devices it took 5 minuts to get 6 satelites and with other radios (like blackstone 13.32.24xxx) it took 10 seconds to get 11 satelites .. in 10 seconds..
So I really think its Radio related..
Or the gps sensor isn't working 100% correctly..
Shouldn't we test some radio's for best gps performance.,
What is radio blackstone 13.32.24xxx??? never heard of it before.
luigipirex said:
What did the trick to me was:
1. Updating QuickGPS, on WinMO;
2. Installing GPS Status and downloading assistance data:
::: Settings&Configuration : GPS&Sensors: Manage AGPS data.
I am getting consistently fast locks now But what made the difference this time was updating QuickGPS on WinMo... Check my sig for details on my setup.
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Worked for me, thanks !! (it now locks in less than 10 sec, in comparison to several minutes before updating quickgps in Winmo).
The problem with some people in this forum is that they have to be smart ass, they will argue with you that there is no logic in your fix, even though it works. Too bad for them.
fstluxe said:
But! what you can do in wimo is also possible in Android: getting AGPS... with GPS status..
so getting Agps information is not the problem here..
Possibility's
The radio ? with some radios with my winmo devices it took 5 minuts to get 6 satelites and with other radios (like blackstone 13.32.24xxx) it took 10 seconds to get 11 satelites .. in 10 seconds..
So I really think its Radio related..
Or the gps sensor isn't working 100% correctly..
Shouldn't we test some radio's for best gps performance.,
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I've tried different radios and that didn't to absolutely anything to the GPS performance on Android. QuickGPS, on the other hand, gave me results. Even just using GPS Status didn't do anything for me.
By the way, A-GPS and QuickGPS assistance data are different things. QuickGPS can be useful to you even if you don't any signal when you are using GPS on your handset (if, of course, you have downloaded before your assistance data and it's up-to-date). To use A-GPS, you need to have signal...
Why don't your try this solution and see for yourself? You just have to update QuickGPS on WinMo. If you are using a light WinMo ROM, with no QuickGPS, try a regular stock or cooked ROM. The latest ChuckyDroid is a lite version, but has QuickGPS, though.
Try it, and then tell us if it worked for you.
Noam23 said:
Worked for me, thanks !! (it now locks in less than 10 sec, in comparison to several minutes before updating quickgps in Winmo).
The problem with some people in this forum is that they have to be smart ass, they will argue with you that there is no logic in your fix, even though it works. Too bad for them.
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I am very glad it worked for you! I was doubtful when I first read this solution... but it does work wonders!
luigipirex said:
It certainly isn't useless, as many users have reported this as a solution. For me, it was the solution that definitely worked. I've tried every other method, including editing gps.conf file, using GPS status, etc, and the results weren't consistent. But after I updated my QuickGPS on WinMo, I have been getting consistent results, every time I try, as short as 5 seconds to get me a lock.
As you should know, some settings in WinMo still affect your hardware in Android: e.g., look at the "calibrate g-sensor in WinMo" recommendation. I think this is also the case with GPS.
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some settings in winmo affect your hardware in android 'cause winmo is used to initialize the hardware, so that it has a certain state when booting android. this is due to the fact that our android drivers cannot initialize hardware (yet), so winmo is needed.
why should starting quickgps in winmo help in android? as far as i know all that quickgps does is downloading satellite position information to help the gps driver to fasten up the calculation of the current position in case of a cold fix.
if this would help in android, it would mean that the satellite data is some kind of stored *inside* the gps chip. otherwise andoid wouldn't be able to access the position data (orbit) of the satellites.
or am i completely wrong? if so, please help me and correct it...i'm just curious
hebbe said:
why should starting quickgps in winmo help in android? as far as i know all that quickgps does is downloading satellite position information to help the gps driver to fasten up the calculation of the current position in case of a cold fix.
if this would help in android, it would mean that the satellite data is some kind of stored *inside* the gps chip. otherwise andoid wouldn't be able to access the position data (orbit) of the satellites.
or am i completely wrong? if so, please help me and correct it...i'm just curious
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This is correct. The satellite data is stored inside the GPS chip (this is written in the help file of the "GPS status" app).
It could be that because the android drivers are lacking in the HD2, we can only read from the GPS but not write (this is why updating the satellites work from WinMo but not from Android. because android can't write to the GPS chip).
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This is correct. The satellite data is stored inside the GPS chip (this is written in the help file of the "GPS status" app).
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thanks for your reply!
ok, then some kind of "quickgps" for android would help too...
so winmo is not necessary/needed for gps to work properly.
Noam23 said:
This is correct. The satellite data is stored inside the GPS chip (this is written in the help file of the "GPS status" app).
It could be that because the android drivers are lacking in the HD2, we can only read from the GPS but not write (this is why updating the satellites work from WinMo but not from Android. because android can't write to the GPS chip).
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Thats a Good Point!
Holy Cow it worked! I mean it works!
Who can argue with that?
Sat data is input to gps chip. And the data is usually good for 7 days.
So if you use quickgps in winmo to update sat data, it will also make gps fast in android too at least a week.
gps status app in android also has the ability to download sat data, but quickgps in winmo seems better.
DON'T THINK ABOUT LOGIC. JUST TRY IT. IF you now a place where winmo gps works very fast, get a gps lock under winmo and then boot android. You will see that Android now gets a lock in seconds too.
Most people have problems with gps because their gps.conf file is empty, or they are not "really" in open air.
Gps will get a fix more difficult:
- If the weather is cloudy
- If there are buildings near you
- If you are actually inside a building
- If you are in a vehicle and vehicle is moving fast.
- If you don't have the assistance data in your gps chip.
- If you force your gps chip to do a cold start (instead of hot or warm start)
- If you don't have a working reliable internet connection (to download satellite data to aid in calculation)
- If you have an empty gps.conf file
Sometimes if I can't get a gps lock quickly, before blaming Android I reboot to winmo and see it doesn't always get a fast lock. Environment is a huge factor. So before thinking it is an Android problem, reboot to winmo use quickgps to download sat data and wait for a accurate fix in google maps or similar app. (google maps will first get your location from google location server which is usually only accurate to several hundred meters. Make sure you wait for the actual lock with a few meters of accuracy.
Since you "have to" load winmo before android (as no nand boot exists yet) just download sat data every few days before launching haret. It would be a good idea to get a fix and then launch haret.
The trick with quickgps also works in my device. Now android is almost perfect. Camera, gps work, no freeze. I only want 720p playback.
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This theory makes me wonder.
Why is there a xtra.bin in the windows folder?
If there was an issue with the GPS in winmo it was sometimes needed to delete that file and download it again via the quickgps tool.
I wish I could try the quickGPS solution but unfortunately I'm using a very light version of windows mobile and quickGPS wasn't included. I tried to download and install one but got the error message about it not being signed or trusted.
So I can't figure out how to run QuickGPS and take advantage of these fixes.
I know this topic has been discussed previously, but I haven't been able to find the answer yet so here goes:
As I understand it, GPS is working in all/most sense and cm based builds however AGPS seems to be an issue all have in common. From what I understand AGPS is just a helper function for quicker GPS locking so even though AGPS isnt working, you should still be able to get a lock.
Now, since before we got nand based ROMs for HD2 I used haret to load android from my SD card. Back then I used GPS depended applications like c:geo for geocaching and car navigation progs, as well as progs for finding nearest resturant when I visit other cities/countries.
Been a while since I had the need for it, but recently with the nice weather geocaching for example have become an interest. What I see now is that none of the ginger/cm/non-sense builds I have tried have given me a GPS lock. I have tried the GPS fixes, flashed Norway.zip for tweaking my gps.conf, installed gps-status but no chance in getting a lock. and yes, I have been giving it quite some time, outdoors.
Anyone else having these problems? I see from screenshots on for example the HyperDroidCM7 ROM that you can get a lock, so its not a problem for everybody. Is my assumption on what AGPS is, correct? Any worarounds to get GPS functionality working? Strange to have these problems now, since it worked kinda well before
EDIT: tried now with [10.MAR.11][CWM] RAFDROID HD 4.0.2|Fastest Full DesHD|DATA2EXT|[Rafpigna 1.8 OC], still no lock
There's no driver support for AGPS, so the best we can do for now is to tweak our gps.conf and use gps status. If you can't get a lock at all, it could be a HW problem. If geocaching is a necessity for you, you could go back to WM and sd Android, use WM to grab AGPS data, then boot into Android.
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I use that rom, but the 4.0 (really not much of a difference for me between the 4.0 and 4.0.2), and I always have a lock quickly.
1) Did you try installing the GPSFix.0.1 apk file and running it? that downloads a criticial file xtra.bin into your data folder.
Also try the 1.2 files and see if you have any luck, because I know in the 4.0 of Rafdroid, the gps works very well.
Same as Angeldeath, I use Rafdroid and it works ok.
Mine was faulty a couple of weeks ago and HTC warranty had to swap the board (and also did the screen, keys etc). In the end it would still lock but after a while it would freez or have no reception anymore.
But to be honest I don't like the GPS receiver at all in the HD2. There are numerous tests and other people to back me up on the tremendous jitter the receiver has which makes you jump all over the place.
A nice test is to place it in the car and switch on the cruiscontrol at 100km/h, or even worse at 180km/h. The thing will jump atleast 10% in speed.
When I need to drive or walk long trips I use my iBlue 747A+ 66 Ch Bluetooth GPS Logger which you can buy cheap on ebay.
That thing logs, is fast, deadly accurate and with the free 'bluetooth gps' on the market you can even use it on the HD2
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There's no driver support for AGPS, so the best we can do for now is to tweak our gps.conf and use gps status. If you can't get a lock at all, it could be a HW problem. If geocaching is a necessity for you, you could go back to WM and sd Android, use WM to grab AGPS data, then boot into Android.
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The AGPS thing on WM and then booting into Android is a myth, there's an extenvise work being done to make AGPS work on Android for our HD2s, but they have not managed to get it working yet.
Android on our HD2 simply doesnt have any commands to load AGPS, and the chip itself doesnt save any data. In the remote case it saved anything, there's nothing on the GPS Driver itself to read it
Quick tip to get your GPS to work:
Load Google Maps, let it try to get a lock, if after 1 or 2 mins it doesnt get any lock force close the app, turn off then back on the GPS and reload Google Maps. If you still cant get a lock, let it sit for at least 5 mins, then Force Close it again.
after that it should get you a lock in less than 10 secs.
Easiest way to FC it is enabling the "hold back to FC app" option on CM builds.
hey all
i have read and reread and looked all over. so either i am looking wrong or just plan dumb.
but i installed a build on my HTC HD2 that said it did everything i needed. and it seems to work ok. but the one thing i would LOVE to find is a stable build that has a GPS that on maps will tell me right where i am. the one on the build i installed said it worked, but i get a 20 block radius as being the best i can get.
i travel alot and when i am lost in a new city i like to find my way around and the GPS maps saves me many times.
also this build seems to set different call volumes depening on who i am calling.
but any suggestions on a good GPS would be great
thanks
jared
and yes i turn on GPS before i go into maps. so it should be more accurate then it is.
you need to give more info, like which build are you using?
GPS is known to be inaccurate when you're in a big city with really high buildings, so my guess is you're not getting a GPS fix so the device turns on network locationing.
Check the build in my sig, I get a fixation around 1 meter, but I doubt your build doesn't give the same accuracy.
My advice is to learn how to read maps without GPS or internet connections, it's faster that way, at least for me.
Hi Jared,
My personal advice is to buy a seperate BT gps receiver. The receiver in the HD2 is not the best one, found the one in the HD alot better.
You can buy a good MKT or Sirf3 which will beat the HD2 every single time in accuracy and speed for like 30 Euro or 45 dollars on ebay.
There are nice free tools on the market that will let you use the BT gps receiver.
You may want to look into the information on this thread here in the forum:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Helped me to quickly obtain a GPS lock. Depending on your build, it could be optimized for a different country you reside in. Hence, changing your gps.conf file for your area should help.
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You may want to look into the information on this thread here in the forum:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Helped me to quickly obtain a GPS lock. Depending on your build, it could be optimized for a different country you reside in. Hence, changing your gps.conf file for your area should help.
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Try this build: tytung v 2.6
It's a stock Gingerbread ROM. It works perfect, never had any issues like different call volume or something. And for the GPS, try the fix provided above. It takes about 30 seconds for me to get a good and accurate fix.