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Hey guys, need some help. I've searched around and tried to do different things but I'm afraid that I might be stuck (due to my limited knowledge of working with androids).
So I rooted my Fascinate and installed ROM manager and clockwork recovery onto it. Well, after fiddling around with it for a few weeks, I feel like I’ve gotten my self into a position where I’ve lost the way back. So now, I’ve tried unrooting using a couple of methods (update.zip and one click unroot) but it fails every time. This led me to believe that root/super user was not gone from my system (Super User icon/app is still there). This morning, I installed Titanium Back up and it said it couldn’t start because my phone is not rooted. I go into the Super User app and no app has requested it. I’m just kinda lost at this point and want my phone back to the state when I had first purchased it.
Now I know there is the Odin way, however, his post says that his files include superuser and busybox already installed – this I don’t want. I want the unrooted factory Samsung Fascinate state back. I was thinking about using the “factory reset” option in the settings but wanted to get your opinion on this before proceeding (since several posts said to do it where as others said don’t do this way).
Can someone help this clueless android n00b? Please?
If you do a factory reset superuser will still be installed.
When I did Oden restore i think I had to re-root my phone.
You could also root your pone again, then un-root to remove superuser.
Why do you care? My wife and I both have gotten replacements because of hardware defects. Both phones were rooted and they never questioned it either time.
This thread contains ODIN files for a completely stock device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204
No root/bb/su.
NKT said:
This thread contains ODIN files for a completely stock device:
No root/bb/su.
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Actually, the system file in that thread does have SU/Superuser.apk/Busybox, but otherwise it's stock.
atrich0608 said:
You could also root your pone again, then un-root to remove superuser.
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This did the trick!!
I used the the z4root app from appbrain, rooted and unrooted. SU = Gone!! Amazing!
Thank you!!
I rooted my Epic 4G with the new Epic Experience Rom recently. I am going to return the phone, but they won't take it back rooted. I couldn't find anything in search. Does anyone know how to erase any trace of my phone being rooted?
Thanks everyone.
Edit: nm read his post wrong.
RootTheWorld said:
I rooted my Epic 4G with the new Epic Experience Rom recently. I am going to return the phone, but they won't take it back rooted. I couldn't find anything in search. Does anyone know how to erase any trace of my phone being rooted?
Thanks everyone.
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ODIN, and an official release, not Froyo.. Use the DI18 Package..
Also remember to wipe your SD card too which will not be touched during install. ODIN will flash over EVERYTHING making it brand new.
Why would you want to return your Epic? I hope not to get an EVO.. The EVO is a good phone and I wanted it when it first came out, my gut kept telling me to wait and the EPIC really is a good phone.
brian_hoffman said:
ODIN, and an official release, not Froyo.. Use the DI18 Package..
Also remember to wipe your SD card too which will not be touched during install. ODIN will flash over EVERYTHING making it brand new.
Why would you want to return your Epic? I hope not to get an EVO.. The EVO is a good phone and I wanted it when it first came out, my gut kept telling me to wait and the EPIC really is a good phone.
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Last time I had to take my phone into a sprint store, I ODIN'ed back to DI18 and thought that it removes root as I've read in multiple posts but apparently it doesn't because the technician said the phone is rooted and although they will service the phone this time, root voids warranty and they put a note on my account to check if phone is rooted if i ever take it back again. My speaker just died, so I ODIN'd and used this to remove root.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-1-13-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
When I took it in, they didn't mention anything about root. So either they didn't check or they saw phone wasn't rooted.
For you those going back to stock or are stock and u flashed 2.2 and want to downgrade or resort back to stock use this method.
Rooted/clockwork users skip the first step...
1. Do the one click root/clockwork/etc Here
2. Flash the d118 modem Here
3. Then Flash the zip file Here
4. Then flash the get rid of clockwork zip Here
5. Your are back to stock without using odin yay!!!
Now all links work!!! and added a step use this method to return to stock with out odin.
viper786 said:
Last time I had to take my phone into a sprint store, I ODIN'ed back to DI18 and thought that it removes root as I've read in multiple posts but apparently it doesn't because the technician said the phone is rooted and although they will service the phone this time, root voids warranty and they put a note on my account to check if phone is rooted if i ever take it back again. My speaker just died, so I ODIN'd and used this to remove root.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-1-13-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
When I took it in, they didn't mention anything about root. So either they didn't check or they saw phone wasn't rooted.
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Perhaps,
If you ODIN to an offical "virgin" Rom you will lose root.. Period. If you dont believe me do it then try and run any app that requires root "like wifi tether" it will not work. There are roms that work with odin that are pre rooted.
What I got from the other thread was Sprint can tell by some method what OS version and build you have been using while connected to thier network... so if this is true they may be able to tell your running an "Epic Experience" build and put 2&2 together that you have rooted.
The fact of the matter is, if you are running software not designed for the phone or not ready to be released and things do not work then they waste countless man hours trying to figure our why things force close on a product that is no longer thiers.
So, it is not hard to see why they do not like people rooting thier devices.
If you ODIN back and still have the speaker problem then it is SAFE to assume its a hardware rather than a software problem regardless of your past programs that have run on the phone.
brian_hoffman said:
Perhaps,
If you ODIN to an offical "virgin" Rom you will lose root.. Period. If you dont believe me do it then try and run any app that requires root "like wifi tether" it will not work. There are roms that work with odin that are pre rooted.
What I got from the other thread was Sprint can tell by some method what OS version and build you have been using while connected to thier network... so if this is true they may be able to tell your running an "Epic Experience" build and put 2&2 together that you have rooted.
The fact of the matter is, if you are running software not designed for the phone or not ready to be released and things do not work then they waste countless man hours trying to figure our why things force close on a product that is no longer thiers.
So, it is not hard to see why they do not like people rooting thier devices.
If you ODIN back and still have the speaker problem then it is SAFE to assume its a hardware rather than a software problem regardless of your past programs that have run on the phone.
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I was not aware that they can see what OS i've been using. Anyway, they are replacing the phone and said i should receive the replacement at my house tomorrow. Normally all replacements are sent to them this is the first time i'm getting a replacement sent to my house instead of the store.
Are you sure you searched? One of the very first threads in the development forum...
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updated instructions to goto stock without odin, see post 5.
Hey folks.
I attempted to ask this in the most relevant thread, but as a new user I can not.
My question pertains to the CASUAL root tool for the S4.
Developed by AdamOutler.
Described in the thread "[ROOT[RECOVERY] Loki + TWRP + Motochopper CASUAL-R527b release"
The tool looks pretty amazing.
But I do have some questions.
Please forgive me in advance I am an UBER NEWBIE.
Many of the terms thrown around here are completely foreign to me.
(Yes, I've searched for that knowledge - but perhaps you are underestimating my noobness. )
(Yes, I have read the "[HOW-TO] The All-In-One Root/Backup/Flash Guide - [I337 & I337M]" thread as well... it helped but... yeah still a noob.)
FYI: The only reason I want to root my S4 (AT&T) is so I can remove the crappy bloatware, and also configure the anti-theft/find-phone features of the avast! app.
Ok so on to the questions...
1) Once this is done what's to stop some update from my carrier un-doing it all?
2) If that were to happen how much pain would I be in for?
3) If the only way to protect one's self from this is to somehow disable OS/firmware updates... is the only way to get future OS updates through a ROM?
4) This TWRP thing seems to be a backup/recovery tool?
I gather that it also enable ROMs flashing, etc?
I've read others like "Titanium Backup" because it can freeze/remove the bloatware.
Are they both kinda the same thing?
Will the two conflict?
5) This "Nandroid" is another backup tool?
Am I correct in my understanding that the TWRP leverages nandroid - or are they comepeting solutions.
6) Is Nandroid a system function or some other tool that needs installed?
Thanks a bunch folks!
~Doug
DougYITBOS said:
Hey folks.
I attempted to ask this in the most relevant thread, but as a new user I can not.
My question pertains to the CASUAL root tool for the S4.
Developed by AdamOutler.
Described in the thread "[ROOT[RECOVERY] Loki + TWRP + Motochopper CASUAL-R527b release"
The tool looks pretty amazing.
But I do have some questions.
Please forgive me in advance I am an UBER NEWBIE.
Many of the terms thrown around here are completely foreign to me.
(Yes, I've searched for that knowledge - but perhaps you are underestimating my noobness. )
(Yes, I have read the "[HOW-TO] The All-In-One Root/Backup/Flash Guide - [I337 & I337M]" thread as well... it helped but... yeah still a noob.)
FYI: The only reason I want to root my S4 (AT&T) is so I can remove the crappy bloatware, and also configure the anti-theft/find-phone features of the avast! app.
Ok so on to the questions...
1) Once this is done what's to stop some update from my carrier un-doing it all?
2) If that were to happen how much pain would I be in for?
3) If the only way to protect one's self from this is to somehow disable OS/firmware updates... is the only way to get future OS updates through a ROM?
4) This TWRP thing seems to be a backup/recovery tool?
I gather that it also enable ROMs flashing, etc?
I've read others like "Titanium Backup" because it can freeze/remove the bloatware.
Are they both kinda the same thing?
Will the two conflict?
5) This "Nandroid" is another backup tool?
Am I correct in my understanding that the TWRP leverages nandroid - or are they comepeting solutions.
6) Is Nandroid a system function or some other tool that needs installed?
Thanks a bunch folks!
~Doug
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1) Once this is done what's to stop some update from my carrier un-doing it all?
If you root you will not be able to get updates any longer.
2) If that were to happen how much pain would I be in for?
Its not going to happen because you are rooted.
3) If the only way to protect one's self from this is to somehow disable OS/firmware updates... is the only way to get future OS updates through a ROM?
The only way you will get updates is ODIN back to stock. Again, no worries.
4) This TWRP thing seems to be a backup/recovery tool?
I gather that it also enable ROMs flashing, etc?
I've read others like "Titanium Backup" because it can freeze/remove the bloatware.
Are they both kinda the same thing?
Will the two conflict?
TWRP - is a recovery, so you can perform nandroid backups, and to flash roms, and to restore backups. Nothing more, nothing less.
Titanium Backup is a app you use within the rom, to backup and restore apps with, you can read more on this going to the market, it will explain this app's features and what it does.
They are not the same, 2 different programs, that do 2 different things.
Question 5 & 6 answered in #4 answer.
Hope this helps, kinda down and dirty, try and do some reading on all of the above.
Appreciate the thanks.
Thank you and good luck.
Thanks a bunch TheAxman
You said...
TheAxman said:
1) Once this is done what's to stop some update from my carrier un-doing it all?
If you root you will not be able to get updates any longer.
3) If the only way to protect one's self from this is to somehow disable OS/firmware updates... is the only way to get future OS updates through a ROM?
The only way you will get updates is ODIN back to stock. Again, no worries.
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So does the Root tool (in this case the CASUL script by Adam) do something to shut down carrier updates or I need to do something extra?
Also if one were to ODIN back to stock... and get an update... and then re-root...
I assume you could get an old backup from an external storage area and try to get all your "stuff" back?
DougYITBOS said:
Thanks a bunch TheAxman
You said...
So does the Root tool (in this case the CASUL script by Adam) do something to shut down carrier updates or I need to do something extra?
Also if one were to ODIN back to stock... and get an update... and then re-root...
I assume you could get an old backup from an external storage area and try to get all your "stuff" back?
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Once you root,, it changes the rom status to custom, so the update see's that and does NOTHING. if you odin back to stock, un-root, you can force updates, but be careful with updates, carriers are patching things so we can not do what we do, and that is to run custom roms on phones THAT WE OWN!
And btw, if this person xBeerdroiDx gives me a thanks, he is saying I did ok... If you seem to have anymore questions, his guide is one of the best....
[HOW-TO] The All-In-One Root/Backup/Flash Guide - [I337 & I337M]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2314494
Thanks to xBeerdroiDx - For this great Startup Guide
Thanks again!
DougYITBOS said:
Thanks again!
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Your quite welcome, if you have any other questions, feel free to ask them in the thread I gave you or mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I figured Axman may know.
In the past on my S2, I would flash a lot of roms. maybe after every 5 or 10 I would odin back to stock, boot it up, re-root, re-twrp, then flash another rom. just to get a very clean slate in a sense.
If I were to do this with the S4, you dont think the ATT update would get pushed in the 30 mins to an hour that the phone is in its stock state, do you? I dont want to get mf3'd.
orlandoxpolice said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I figured Axman may know.
In the past on my S2, I would flash a lot of roms. maybe after every 5 or 10 I would odin back to stock, boot it up, re-root, re-twrp, then flash another rom. just to get a very clean slate in a sense.
If I were to do this with the S4, you dont think the ATT update would get pushed in the 30 mins to an hour that the phone is in its stock state, do you? I dont want to get mf3'd.
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hehe it could, but highly unlikely, and if you feel that it may happen, do what I do, remove the sim until you get rooted, and then put the sim back in and complete the setup. Your not going to get calls in that time period anyways.
Good luck.
btw..this is cool, name please.
Dog: [Pitbull Sharpei Mix] Rom: Stock
TheAxman said:
hehe it could, but highly unlikely, and if you feel that it may happen, do what I do, remove the sim until you get rooted, and then put the sim back in and complete the setup. Your not going to get calls in that time period anyways.
Good luck.
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ah good idea. i suppose airplane mode would accomplish the same thing as well
orlandoxpolice said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I figured Axman may know.
In the past on my S2, I would flash a lot of roms. maybe after every 5 or 10 I would odin back to stock, boot it up, re-root, re-twrp, then flash another rom. just to get a very clean slate in a sense.
If I were to do this with the S4, you dont think the ATT update would get pushed in the 30 mins to an hour that the phone is in its stock state, do you? I dont want to get mf3'd.
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I'm just throwing my limited experience out. I have never went back to stock via Odin simply to get a "clean slate." Completing a full wipe including a system format in recovery will be sufficient for a clean OS. I would reserve Odin flashing as a last resort for when problems aren't being remedied by a full wipe and format via recovery.
CamFlawless said:
I'm just throwing my limited experience out. I have never went back to stock via Odin simply to get a "clean slate." Completing a full wipe including a system format in recovery will be sufficient for a clean OS. I would reserve Odin flashing as a last resort for when problems aren't being remedied by a full wipe and format via recovery.
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Thank you sir, appreciate the help, and yes, good idea.
TheAxman said:
Thank you sir, appreciate the help, and yes, good idea.
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might have been a placebo effect for me, lol.
TheAxman said:
1) Once this is done what's to stop some update from my carrier un-doing it all?
If you root you will not be able to get updates any longer.
2) If that were to happen how much pain would I be in for?
Its not going to happen because you are rooted.
3) If the only way to protect one's self from this is to somehow disable OS/firmware updates... is the only way to get future OS updates through a ROM?
The only way you will get updates is ODIN back to stock. Again, no worries.
4) This TWRP thing seems to be a backup/recovery tool?
I gather that it also enable ROMs flashing, etc?
I've read others like "Titanium Backup" because it can freeze/remove the bloatware.
Are they both kinda the same thing?
Will the two conflict?
TWRP - is a recovery, so you can perform nandroid backups, and to flash roms, and to restore backups. Nothing more, nothing less.
Titanium Backup is a app you use within the rom, to backup and restore apps with, you can read more on this going to the market, it will explain this app's features and what it does.
They are not the same, 2 different programs, that do 2 different things.
Question 5 & 6 answered in #4 answer.
Hope this helps, kinda down and dirty, try and do some reading on all of the above.
Appreciate the thanks.
Thank you and good luck.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but its my understanding if you're rooted and still stock the MDL will still update to MF3 unless you either completely flash a custom ROM or rename the OTA files that At&t have on our devices.
where you end up, depends on where you start.
AT&T SGH-I337 32G
lilbigdude1 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but its my understanding if you're rooted and still stock the MDL will still update to MF3 unless you either completely flash a custom ROM or rename the OTA files that At&t have on our devices.
where you end up, depends on where you start.
AT&T SGH-I337 32G
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somewhat, but as soon as you root, your phone status is custom correct? therefor how can it update? Yes, it is better to do a custom rom, but you can still stay on MDL and never get updates, freezing the samsung update will work, but I gave the easiest way in his situation.
TheAxman said:
Once you root,, it changes the rom status to custom, so the update see's that and does NOTHING. if you odin back to stock, un-root, you can force updates, but be careful with updates, carriers are patching things so we can not do what we do, and that is to run custom roms on phones THAT WE OWN!
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Hi...I'm another noob with a question about this. I also just used CASUAL to root my phone yesterday. I am definitely rooted but my Device Status actually still shows Official. Following the info in another thread, I used ES File Explorer's Root Manager to rename the wssyncmldm.apk.
Info from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946
The thread was actually written for a previous update, but renaming the apk should still be relevant.
Maybe this was overkill, but...
texasniteowl said:
Hi...I'm another noob with a question about this. I also just used CASUAL to root my phone yesterday. I am definitely rooted but my Device Status actually still shows Official. Following the info in another thread, I used ES File Explorer's Root Manager to rename the wssyncmldm.apk.
Info from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946
The thread was actually written for a previous update, but renaming the apk should still be relevant.
Maybe this was overkill, but...
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I was just rooted and it showed custom status after, so no updates, you must check the status. just flashing a kernel will change the status, if you are going to root and install a recovery, some things are to go without saying.
Btw, I have learned, that nothing with information is an overkill, if you haven't notice xda is a bunch of peoples ideas and such, and many do not work for others, it is a hit miss.
TheAxman said:
I was just rooted and it showed custom status after, so no updates, you must check the status. just flashing a kernel will change the status, if you are going to root and install a recovery, some things are to go without saying.
Btw, I have learned, that nothing with information is an overkill, if you haven't notice xda is a bunch of peoples ideas and such, and many do not work for others, it is a hit miss.
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Yeah...maybe I am referring to the wrong thing, but I was surprised that Settings > More > About Device > Status > Device Status still said "Official" on mine. I know CASUAL succeeded. TWRP is installed, SuperUser is installed. And I was able to use ES File Explorer's Root Manager to change system to R/W and rename the apk. So even though I'm very much an android novice, I'm pretty certain I'm rooted. I don't necessarily plan to flash a rom yet...but since I was still on MDL I wanted to retain the current ability to do so!
Is there some other place that it would show Custom as opposed to Official? That's actually why I went ahead and renamed that file.
texasniteowl said:
Yeah...maybe I am referring to the wrong thing, but I was surprised that Settings > More > About Device > Status > Device Status still said "Official" on mine. I know CASUAL succeeded. TWRP is installed, SuperUser is installed. And I was able to use ES File Explorer's Root Manager to change system to R/W and rename the apk. So even though I'm very much an android novice, I'm pretty certain I'm rooted. I don't necessarily plan to flash a rom yet...but since I was still on MDL I wanted to retain the current ability to do so!
Is there some other place that it would show Custom as opposed to Official? That's actually why I went ahead and renamed that file.
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I did not mean to confuse anyone. Yes you did the right thing by renaming the the file. if your device says official then this step is needed. mine said custom. umm i stand corrected fellows..another step is needed. thanks for the oversight. i am only human..im not a animal.
TheAxman said:
I did not mean to confuse anyone. Yes you did the right thing by renaming the the file. if your device says official then this step is needed. mine said custom. umm i stand corrected fellows..another step is needed. thanks for the oversight. i am only human..im not a animal.
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if you are paranoid then there are 3 files you can freeze. i cant remember which ones, but one is att update something something, thats all i can remember.
im no help
I think everyone gets the picture.
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I accidentally deleted a few important documents led to the current system fails to boot, whenever I boot it always stays in the interface of a white background, and now I can get into odin mode but not in the recovery
My mail is [email protected]
chentongxin said:
I accidentally deleted a few important documents led to the current system fails to boot, whenever I boot it always stays in the interface of a white background, and now I can get into odin mode but not in the recovery
My mail is [email protected]
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I might be wrong here as im not the sharpest tool in the shed, but i do believe there is a new post like this every single day and all get the same response. There is no MF3 image available for flash through odin or otherwise. Search = Friend.
If you repeat three times "owaa tagoo siam" it might magically appear.
Not happening my friend. Try going into download mode and then press down to cancel. It might boot normally then. (worked for me at one point with a similar issue)
agent929 said:
Not happening my friend. Try going into download mode and then press down to cancel. It might boot normally then. (worked for me at one point with a similar issue)
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It seems useless
So did you try it or just say its useless? There are a couple other methods that have been shown to work as well.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using XDA Premium HD app
You are going to have to wait for Samsung to release the MF3 on kies or a leak of the tar to happen.
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chentongxin said:
I accidentally deleted a few important documents led to the current system fails to boot, whenever I boot it always stays in the interface of a white background, and now I can get into odin mode but not in the recovery
My mail is [email protected]
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hey buddy, im not familiar with Samsung restoring things cuz im an HTC person. but i was talking with a samsung rep and played dumb, i told him i did OTA and my phone died on me. now it booting up with emergency mode, and i told him i tried to hook it up to kies with emergency mode but no luck....
he gave me this like to remove custom OS ROM, i know its stupid but it kinda a different way to re-install the stock OS...
im sorry if being a NOOB here, cuz i said before im an HTC guy and love RUU ....
anyway if you already know that, then ignore it. otherwise try this link and let me know if this restore MF3 for you.
thanks
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00052690/61265/SGH-I337ZRAATT
salwansk said:
hey buddy, im not familiar with Samsung restoring things cuz im an HTC person. but i was talking with a samsung rep and played dumb, i told him i did OTA and my phone died on me. now it booting up with emergency mode, and i told him i tried to hook it up to kies with emergency mode but no luck....
he gave me this like to remove custom OS ROM, i know its stupid but it kinda a different way to re-install the stock OS...
im sorry if being a NOOB here, cuz i said before im an HTC guy and love RUU ....
anyway if you already know that, then ignore it. otherwise try this link and let me know if this restore MF3 for you.
thanks
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00052690/61265/SGH-I337ZRAATT
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Its been stated 1000 times, this will not work with MF3 at this time. Using Kies to try and restore Firmware if you are on MF3 or using ODIN at best will not work and could possibly make things worse. There are a couple of exceptions using modified files (you can find them in the forum) but other than those exceptions absolutely KIES and ODIN will not help to restore Firmware if a phone is already on MF3.
scott14719 said:
Its been stated 1000 times, this will not work with MF3 at this time. Using Kies to try and restore Firmware if you are on MF3 or using ODIN at best will not work and could possibly make things worse. There are a couple of exceptions using modified files (you can find them in the forum) but other than those exceptions absolutely KIES and ODIN will not help to restore Firmware if a phone is already on MF3.
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LOL... i think i might upset u right ? sorry bro...
i hope some one can modify the stock MF3 soon...
i had similar problem with Sprint note2 L900 4.1.2, it won't downgrade to 4.1.1 in order to get the SPC and flash it with different carrier. but one of the genius guys modify the stock 4.1.1 to let note2 accepted without error ....
its here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0d2B9lfouQ
salwansk said:
LOL... i think i might upset u right ? sorry bro...
i hope some one can modify the stock MF3 soon...
i had similar problem with Sprint note2 L900 4.1.2, it won't downgrade to 4.1.1 in order to get the SPC and flash it with different carrier. but one of the genius guys modify the stock 4.1.1 to let note2 accepted without error ....
its here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0d2B9lfouQ
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No, definitely didn't upset me. My phone works and i know what I am doing. However, you probably would have upset the OP if he would have tried your suggestion and screwed his phone up worse. It would have been his own fault because there is always risk when it comes to doing anything to our phones, but being a bit more cautious when making suggestions to people would be a good thing also. Especially when there is already so much information about this in the AT&T S4 forums.
The video you linked to, once again, will do no good. ODIN will not work for restoring firmware on an MF3 phone at this time period.
scott14719 said:
No, definitely didn't upset me. My phone works and i know what I am doing. However, you probably would have upset the OP if he would have tried your suggestion and screwed his phone up worse. It would have been his own fault because there is always risk when it comes to doing anything to our phones, but being a bit more cautious when making suggestions to people would be a good thing also. Especially when there is already so much information about this in the AT&T S4 forums.
The video you linked to, once again, will do no good. ODIN will not work for restoring firmware on an MF3 phone at this time period.
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i know ODIN will not work for restoring firmware on an MF3 phone at this time, but this link was just an example. maybe in the future someone can do something work with MF3....cuz at my work now we can't sim unlock or fix imei with this bulid MF3, i have tried octopus box, nspro, and setool3. non of them was able to sim unlock MF3, even the secret menu not exist in MF3....
i asked the riff jtag rep, if i can resurrection I337 MF3 and unlock the bootloader with riff box. he hasn't responded yet.
salwansk said:
i know ODIN will not work for restoring firmware on an MF3 phone at this time, but this link was just an example. maybe in the future someone can do something work with MF3....cuz at my work now we can't sim unlock or fix imei with this bulid MF3, i have tried octopus box, nspro, and setool3. non of them was able to sim unlock MF3, even the secret menu not exist in MF3....
i asked the riff jtag rep, if i can resurrection I337 MF3 and unlock the bootloader with riff box. he hasn't responded yet.
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Many things have been tried with this already.
Look up a poster called "Aou". His posts will help shed light on the subject. Adam Outler also has worked a lot on the issue. The entire MF3 OTA was torn down and part by part tried. Once the MF3 bootloaders are applied, it simply can not be rolled back. There are software and hardware reasons for this, but it has all been tried. The result every time is Hard brick that JTAG can not fix at this time.
Once the full MF3 firmware has been released, maybe this will change, but it is doubtful. The MF3 bootloaders will still be the same. Without Samsung's signing key, the bootloader cannot be modified.
Once Samsung releases the full MF3 firmware (for ODIN and Kies) it will hopefully enable people to flash or restore back to a factory MF3 state, but we will still not be able to roll-back to AMDL. Maybe the full MF3 firmware release will include more files to work with...but again, it is doubtful.
As of now, the only way to sim unlock a phone on MF3 is to use a code (from AT&T or other). Hopefully someone will find a method that will work with MF3...but it hasn't happened yet.
You have good ideas about what should be done but it is important that you look and see what has already been tried and what is known at this point. Hopefully, people will still try to modify and work with MF3 (maybe something that hasn't been tried yet), but it will be building on what has been tried so far.
So, basically, at this time ODIN and KIES will not work with MF3, except for the modified files used without the bootloader. Neither will restore the phone to stock or can be used to roll back the firmware.
Hopefully, when Samsung releases the MF3 firmware, people will be able to restore their phones through ODIN and KIES, but will still be stuck on MF3.
In order to do any more, another work-around (such as the LOKI exploit) will need to be found or someone at Samsung is going to have to release or leak the encryption key.
That is pretty much all for now.
scott14719 said:
Many things have been tried with this already.
Look up a poster called "Aou". His posts will help shed light on the subject. Adam Outler also has worked a lot on the issue. The entire MF3 OTA was torn down and part by part tried. Once the MF3 bootloaders are applied, it simply can not be rolled back. There are software and hardware reasons for this, but it has all been tried. The result every time is Hard brick that JTAG can not fix at this time.
Once the full MF3 firmware has been released, maybe this will change, but it is doubtful. The MF3 bootloaders will still be the same. Without Samsung's signing key, the bootloader cannot be modified.
Once Samsung releases the full MF3 firmware (for ODIN and Kies) it will hopefully enable people to flash or restore back to a factory MF3 state, but we will still not be able to roll-back to AMDL. Maybe the full MF3 firmware release will include more files to work with...but again, it is doubtful.
As of now, the only way to sim unlock a phone on MF3 is to use a code (from AT&T or other). Hopefully someone will find a method that will work with MF3...but it hasn't happened yet.
You have good ideas about what should be done but it is important that you look and see what has already been tried and what is known at this point. Hopefully, people will still try to modify and work with MF3 (maybe something that hasn't been tried yet), but it will be building on what has been tried so far.
So, basically, at this time ODIN and KIES will not work with MF3, except for the modified files used without the bootloader. Neither will restore the phone to stock or can be used to roll back the firmware.
Hopefully, when Samsung releases the MF3 firmware, people will be able to restore their phones through ODIN and KIES, but will still be stuck on MF3.
In order to do any more, another work-around (such as the LOKI exploit) will need to be found or someone at Samsung is going to have to release or leak the encryption key.
That is pretty much all for now.
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thanks bud, and yes i started read about this issue just today.
i know samsung is way easier than HTC when it comes to unlocking and flashing, thats why i didn't care at first. but what freaked me out when i tried to sim unlock galaxy s4 yesterday. today i found out about the MF3 and how is it pain in the axx :laugh: .... thanks for the info bro :good:
add myself to the thread for future fixes...
Scott that was probably the best explanation I have seen yet. You should have it pinned lol
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agent929 said:
Not happening my friend. Try going into download mode and then press down to cancel. It might boot normally then. (worked for me at one point with a similar issue)
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Well Thank YOU ALOT.. you saved me TONS OF WORRIES. That trick got me out of a boot -> recovery -> odin mode loop. I thought I was going to have to confess to ATT and beg for them to fix my phone. I wont be touching my recovery again for a while. Not until a confirmed method and hugely tested recovery/custom rom method comes out.
Thank you! I knew that little bit of advice would help somebody one day.
Hi. Before you read all that mess below, just answer this simple question first: Is it possible to restore to stock (as in with all bloatware and pre-loaded apps intact) on an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 Baseband Version I337UCUAMF3 on Android Version 4.2.2? If not, just say so and disregard reading the rest lol. (If it's any help, the Kernel Version is 3.4.0-812098 and Build # is JDQ39.I337UCUAMF3).
So I have been messing around with my S4, specifically with NoBloat and rooting, trying to delete bloatware and such. And with that line, you should already know by now what has happened. Though I did backup most of the things I deleted, I think I've deleted some important things and now want my phone returned to stock. It has been rooted so I also want to get rid of the binary counter as well. Before you send me to another thread however, I want to tell you guys what I have already tried and researched, yet always encounter an obstacle in:
I have tried using Odin (3.07 AND Odin3 v1.85) and flashing (correct term?) to my phone with I337UCUAMDL_I337ATTAMDL_I337UCUAMDL_HOME.tar.md5 as the PDA, but when I pressed start, Odin would get to the first box then say FAIL!. My phone then has START [224, 1440] then under it SW REV. CHECK FAIL : fused :2, Binary : 1. I think it may be because in the ID: COM space, my phone recognizes as a 0:[COM:3], 4, or 5, but not a 6, which in a video tutorial I've watched, says it must be a COM:6 for it to work. I have tried many of the troubleshooting tips such as removing and putting the battery back in, changing usb ports, and reinstalling drivers, all of them leading to the same FAIL! screen. I know the file and the version of my phone doesn't match (wishful thinking I guess xP ), but is there any other way pr a tar.md5 file for my version to restore using Odin?
Another thing I've tried is using ADB to reupdate (?) my phone. I downloaded the adt files and put the tar.md5 file in the platform-tools folder. Then I opened a command prompt but when I type in adb sideload <filename.tar.md5>, it says it could not be read or could not start. Backtracking, I tried downloading sdk properly but got lost in that and jumped off this method completely.
Finally, giving up all hope of reverting back to complete stock, I simply wanted to reset the binary counter, and even here I had issues. I found out that AT&T is one of the carriers that locks their bootloader, so I searched and found djrbliss' LOKI method to get around it. I tried downloading at the github link, but didn't know how to download it (maybe I somehow just didn't see the download button), so sadly, I couldn't do this either.
I have reset and restored using past backups but the applications, lock screen, and a few other things did not restore properly (while the rest of it did fine, strangely).
Sooo...yeah. I think I may have exhausted almost every method possible, so this thread is really my last resort. Please help me find a way or just tell me it can't be done, so I can put this to rest.
Sorry for the long-winded message, haha, but thanks to all who'll help me find a solution to this dilemma
Go to a best buy Samsung experience. They can flash the stock mf3 firmware.
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jd1639 said:
Go to a best buy Samsung experience. They can flash the stock mf3 firmware.
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But because I rooted before, won't that void my warranty? Or will they just restore to mf3 stock firmware no questions asked anyway?
Also, double checking, doing this will restore all stock apps and reset binary yes?
Thanks for responding quickly. I will try this out asap. :laugh:
AquaYan said:
But because I rooted before, won't that void my warranty? Or will they just restore to mf3 stock firmware no questions asked anyway?
Also, double checking, doing this will restore all stock apps and reset binary yes?
Thanks for responding quickly. I will try this out asap. :laugh:
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It is void, but multiple people have taken in rooted phones and gotten them flashed. Just say it isn't, and they should. I don't know about binary but the system will be factory fresh
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There is a thread on how to remove the 'custom' boot screen, but I am not sure if it works on mf3. Sorry, but can't find the link right now