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This is a development area.
Meaning if you have created something fixed an error then this is where you post. if you have questions please make a topic in the General section this area is getting filled with junk and multiple post asking things that have been posted if you would just learn to use a button we call the search bar at the top right.
I'm not the mod on this Device but as a dev for this device I want to keep things clean unlike all the other areas. I want people to look as the development area and be like ok thats a rom or recover or root and not have to ask questions.
Next is when in a topic please keep on topic. a few topics are 90% junk because people not staying on topic. DONT make posts that say "I hope this is fixed soon or I'm going to get rid of this device" GROW UP go do some reading and help to to make a fix.
I have to add my 2 cents to this. It's really nice if people other their help and discuss things but sometimes threads have to stay clean in order to be helpful for other developers. So please think about if it's really necessary to add your stuff. Otherwise please use the general section.
If you help the developers to do their stuff quickly we'll be able to write how to threads faster for you guys.
Personally I'll pick only a few persons for testing. This will result in less bricked devices
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Maybe link the [DEV] thread to a [DISCUSSION] thread in general section so noobs like use can talk about the development of a given project and not actually post in the [DEV] thread itself.
Also, I wouldn't hesitate to report a post or thread to the mod. I'm not sure how active he is here but it could use a little cleaning.
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Maybe link the [DEV] thread to a [DISCUSSION] thread in general section so noobs like use can talk about the development of a given project and not actually post in the [DEV] thread itself.
Also, I wouldn't hesitate to report a post or thread to the mod. I'm not sure how active he is here but it could use a little cleaning.
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I tried to set this a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056198 but the people don't listen
its a good idea but if people have a question since we dont have a questions area like other forums it needs to be in the general area. or they need to learn to use a search bar/engine. im just tired of pms/email/threads that have been answered already.
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its a good idea but if people have a question since we dont have a questions area like other forums it needs to be in the general area. or they need to learn to use a search bar/engine. im just tired of pms/email/threads that have been answered already.
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You would think by now with how prevalent forums are for all aspects of life, people would know how to use the search feature.
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I tried to set this a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056198 but the people don't listen
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What I meant, exactly, was say a developer starts in on a project - they start their development thread and in the first post, add a link to a discussion thread in the general forum:
[DEV] My project Title
This is my project explanation.
Link to [DISCUSSION] Thread.
So basically, you start you [DEV] thread. Then when you're done, start a [DISCUSSION] thread then link the two together. So noobs, right from the first post, can see the link to the discussion thread. If someone posts a question or chit chat in you [DEV] thread, have it moved to the [DISCUSSION] thread.
I know, it's not ideal, just a thought.
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What I meant, exactly, was say a developer starts in on a project - they start their development thread and in the first post, add a link to a discussion thread in the general forum:
[DEV] My project Title
This is my project explanation.
Link to [DISCUSSION] Thread.
So basically, you start you [DEV] thread. Then when you're done, start a [DISCUSSION] thread then link the two together. So noobs, right from the first post, can see the link to the discussion thread. If someone posts a question or chit chat in you [DEV] thread, have it moved to the [DISCUSSION] thread.
I know, it's not ideal, just a thought.
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This actually sounds really good to me. The only kicker being what is considred on topic and what isn't? Are testing successes and failures relevant to a dev thread? Only successes? Only "breakthrough" moments? To be determibed by an elite group of our super-dev peers? Determined by the original poster?
Its a very subjective issue, dependent on the knowledge level and/or experience of the poster and reader both (or simply based on what one is hoping to find at that moment as compared to how disappointed one is by what they do find instead).
It could also get really complicated really fast.
Ultimately thats up to the OP.
The whole point is that a dev thread can only stay as clean as there are ways to do it. At least with a seperate (though connected) discussion thread, it can be directed. If someone posts in the dev thread, it should be up to that threads OP whether or not it can stay or be moved- at least now there would be a place to move it.
BUMP!! cause people dont like going to the second page. STOP making questions here this is for DEV's that have something to make the Iconia better not hi can i do this. go to the GENERAL AREA
I am not a developer, and this is the only post I can see myself ever posting here.
I enjoy reading this section like I'd read a detailed tech news site. I know that these same people also read the general section, so I can benefit from their input there.
Here, this section, this is their place to work! They share ideas here. They make things happen here. Aside from this post, I never want to clutter their desks, because I benefit so much from their hard work!
Is there any way to just make you guys permissible to post? Maybe you should have to be a dev to post? All can read, but devs would contact the mod to post? With a Discussion Thread linked in that environment, I could see a solution.
I still want to read. Its valuable. But aside from this post, I have no reason to write here. Butt every reason to watch progress, for my own education and to see what might be round the bend
anyone can be a dev. it just means u fixed a bug or made something happen thats what this section is for not hey can some1 help get you tube working or something like that.
doing another bump to keep near the top
Hi, I\m a member for many months now and still cannot interact with the forum of my rom. They want at least 10 posts. What to do if I have nothing to say outside my rom? There are questions asked by people I would like to answer and cannot yet. This policy needs reconsideration - I think.
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Hi, I\m a member for many months now and still cannot interact with the forum of my rom. They want at least 10 posts. What to do if I have nothing to say outside my rom? There are questions asked by people I would like to answer and cannot yet. This policy needs reconsideration - I think.
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Well...why not go through the Q&A section and answer people's questions? Thus getting 10 posts (without spamming, and by actively contributing to the community) and then you can answer/ask more questions. I partially agree that time could be a better indicator of whether or not someone should be allowed to post in the development section, but there has to be some system by which the forums can be free of 'how do I install this ROM' questions or similarly stupid questions which could be answered by using the search function.
Speaking of the search function, I think there is a thread about this in the 'about XDA-Developers' or 'General' section
or at least allow selective forum access. I need the thread of HD2 Boypcc Nand roms.
OK you win on this. I didn't search for this specific. I searched now, found some similar complaints but not very much like my viewpoint.
About searching, in fact I searched and read and learned too too much (and donated) without asking a single question yet. To post in generic forums I'd love to, but I don't see really serious stuff (for me) to discuss outside ROM. OK 6 down 4 to go
I agree. The policy might need reconsideration but it is not really important though. 10 posts are mighty easy to achieve. Try answering questions in the QnA thread. However, if you really are unaware of how to solve member's problems and queries, you can always hang around and have some fun in the off topic thread. In that way, you will be able to achieve your target. Its not exactly how you might want your first 10 posts, but if you get to interact with your forum,then you will be able to gain more knowledge and a better understanding. Then you can truly start helping people after that.
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I agree. The policy might need reconsideration but it is not really important though. 10 posts are mighty easy to achieve. Try answering questions in the QnA thread. However, if you really are unaware of how to solve member's problems and queries, you can always hang around and have some fun in the off topic thread. In that way, you will be able to achieve your target. Its not exactly how you might want your first 10 posts, but if you get to interact with your forum,then you will be able to gain more knowledge and a better understanding. Then you can truly start helping people after that.
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OK OK gentlemen, I did, I found 3 questions to answer and did. Now this is post 10 , lets see if done yet.
shennar said:
OK you win on this. I didn't search for this specific. I searched now, found some similar complaints but not very much like my viewpoint.
About searching, in fact I searched and read and learned too too much (and donated) without asking a single question yet. To post in generic forums I'd love to, but I don't see really serious stuff (for me) to discuss outside ROM. OK 6 down 4 to go
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Lol well obviously you didn't ask questions, otherwise you would have more posts
But I respect having no posts but having a membership for a year (and actually using the forums) much more than having 5billion useless posts without having helped anyone.
thread closed because is not related to HD2 Android ... for further information please go here. Regards,
12's tutorial on how to get your postcount above 10:
Keep in mind that only people we the genuine intent to post one of their developmental projects or with a (well explained) bug report NEED a postcount above 10. Nonetheless I'll give you some guidelines on how to achieve this goal in a community accepted way:
Read the stickies in About xda-developers.com
Read this thread
Read the stickies in Questions and Answers, ask a question there about the site or anything general should anything be unclear to you
Try to answer 2 or 3 questions there
Read the stickies in your forum for your favorite device
If you have any news on the device post it in general
If you have any questions about a hack, app, ROM or theme pop into that thread and ask a question or leave a message
Check out your device specific Questions and Answers (if it has one, otherwise check out General). With everything you have learned so far you should well be able to help a few more people there
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Hi,
Is it possible to root my Nexus HSPA+ without wiping or losing my data?
I've got standard Android 4.2.1 version.
Thank you!
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In order to root.. You must unlock the bootloader. (this process also wipe all data including dats in the sd card). I think there's no way you can root without losing data. You can always backup. Chill
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Thanks.
By all data you mean including os itself?
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User data and sdcard will be wiped.
Beamed from my Grouper.
Ok, so including OS I guess...
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No you will keep the os
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Don't you know that you have a especially thread for all discuss about problems & solutions for the Nexus 7 HSPA+
Go here :
NEXUS 7 3G-"nakasig"-For all Your Jelly Bean Discussions, Problems and Solutions
philos64 said:
Don't you know that you have a especially thread for all discuss about problems & solutions for the Nexus 7 HSPA+
Go here :
NEXUS 7 3G-"nakasig"-For all Your Jelly Bean Discussions, Problems and Solutions
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I don't think you need to keep redirecting everyone to that forum. This is the third time I've seen you post the same comment in various threads.
While some posts that are strictly related to the 3G model might be better served being posted there, I disagree that this thread has any merit. First, it has nothing to do with the 3G/HSPA+ model, outside of the OP happening to own that one. The answer is the same either way, and is about the Nexus7 in general. His question, which has been asked/answered numerous times, is very generic and has nothing to do with the 3G model or functionality. Second, that forum is for "Nexus 7 3G Android Development", not General or Q/A posts. IMHO, it shouldn't be littered with stupid questions that have nothing to do with the 3G model. If the OP had posted his question about the Wi-Fi version in the standard "Nexus 7 Android Development" forum, people would have told him to post it in the General or Q/A forum instead, as it doesn't belong there either. So I think, outside of the fact that the OP should have searched before posting, the Q/A forum was the proper choice.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have a 3G dedicated forum, and I appreciate the fact that you seem to have taken the lead on maintaining it. I would just prefer it to be filled with useful threads.
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I don't think you need to keep redirecting everyone to that forum. This is the third time I've seen you post the same comment in various threads.
While some posts that are strictly related to the 3G model might be better served being posted there, I disagree that this thread has any merit. First, it has nothing to do with the 3G/HSPA+ model, outside of the OP happening to own that one. The answer is the same either way, and is about the Nexus7 in general. His question, which has been asked/answered numerous times, is very generic and has nothing to do with the 3G model or functionality. Second, that forum is for "Nexus 7 3G Android Development", not General or Q/A posts. IMHO, it shouldn't be littered with stupid questions that have nothing to do with the 3G model. If the OP had posted his question about the Wi-Fi version in the standard "Nexus 7 Android Development" forum, people would have told him to post it in the General or Q/A forum instead, as it doesn't belong there either. So I think, outside of the fact that the OP should have searched before posting, the Q/A forum was the proper choice.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have a 3G dedicated forum, and I appreciate the fact that you seem to have taken the lead on maintaining it. I would just prefer it to be filled with useful threads.
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I'm not offended...
My title is Recognized Contributor, not leader.
I'm not leader for something, I just want to help the members of the N7 3G+
It's for it that it's better for the moment to concentrate all discussions in this thread.
And it's not only for the development subject, it's for all discussions, solutions and problems
I know that it's the only thread for the time being. But I try to persuade the Admins to create an another one sub-forum which is especially for Questions and Answers (Q&A).
That's why, I redirecting all subjects for this thread. It's not for the pleasure.
Don't forget that when you are a Junior member or new user, you want to see all in one thread, and not in a lot of threads
On this subject, I wanted to thank you for all help that you bring by all of your answers.
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I'm not offended...
My title is Recognized Contributor, not leader.
I'm not leader for something, I just want to help the members of the N7 3G+
It's for it that it's better for the moment to concentrate all discussions in this thread.
And it's not only for the development subject, it's for all discussions, solutions and problems
I know that it's the only thread for the time being. But I try to persuade the Admins to create an another one sub-forum which is especially for Questions and Answers (Q&A).
That's why, I redirecting all subjects for this thread. It's not for the pleasure.
Don't forget that when you are a Junior member or new user, you want to see all in one thread, and not in a lot of threads
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Gotcha. Maybe it would be better if the admins changed the name of the existing sub-forum to "Nexus 7 3G General and Development" to help move more people to there then. Because right now, it's only a handful of development related topics. And I know that many people, myself included, would be reluctant to post general or Q/A type posts in that sub-forum instead of one of the generic "Nexus7" ones.
Hi all I'm new to android and have been reading a ton
But have a few question?
1. I have a bell s4 Smg-i337 with latest firmware (I believe moto chopper will not work)
But think cw autoroot root method works
Am I correct or how can I root with latest firmware
2. If I install GE rom will it use less storage
(Right now Touchwiz only give my phone like 9.2gb but I read the GE editions s4 doesn't use up as much space)
So will flashing a rom free up space ?
3. Is removing bloat ware bad previously I would just freeze the app but I'm curious about removing it (I read somewhere that if u remove it it screws up ur phone for updates ?
Is that true?
That's all for now thank you
duboisbrian said:
Hi all I'm new to android and have been reading a ton
But have a few question?
1. I have a bell s4 Smg-i337 with latest firmware (I believe moto chopper will not work)
But think cw 10.2 root method works
Am I correct or how can I root with latest firmware
2. If I install GE rom will it use less storage
(Right now Touchwiz only give my phone like 9.2gb but I read the GE editions s4 doesn't use up as much space)
So will flashing a rom free up space ?
3. Is removing bloat ware bad previously I would just freeze the app but I'm curious about removing it (I read somewhere that if u remove it it screws up ur phone for updates ?
Is that true?
That's all for now thank you
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Please read the XDA forum rules.
Questions should be posted in the Q & A section...
However,
before questions are posted in the Q &A section, you should search for already posted answers and look at the "similar suggested links" that appeared while you were posting your question.
I suggest you do what I posted above and also (very important) read the "pinned" threads in the "General" section to help you learn more about your phone. Good luck.
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Ok, so you decided to only read the first part of what I said and make a duplicate thread in Q & A without reading the second part about searching and reading BEFORE posting in Q & A..you know, like the XDA rules state?
And for future reference, the little triangle in the top of your post can be used to notify the moderators that a thread needs to be moved to a different section. Making multiple posts is considered spamming.
Very sorry
Please delete thread
Thank you
Sorry
scott14719 said:
Please read the XDA forum rules.
Questions should be posted in the Q & A section...
However,
before questions are posted in the Q &A section, you should search for already posted answers and look at the "similar suggested links" that appeared while you were posting your question.
I suggest you do what I posted above and also (very important) read the "pinned" threads in the "General" section to help you learn more about your phone. Good luck.
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Ok, so you decided to only read the first part of what I said and make a duplicate thread in Q & A without reading the second part about searching and reading BEFORE posting in Q & A..you know, like the XDA rules state?
And for future reference, the little triangle in the top of your post can be used to notify the moderators that a thread needs to be moved to a different section. Making multiple posts is considered spamming.
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If I may say without you getting all upset..
These questions attract people to this forum, especially through Google. More people = more knowledge, through questions and answers. If more people come here donations would increase in my opinion.
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agent929 said:
If I may say without you getting all upset..
These questions attract people to this forum, especially through Google. More people = more knowledge, through questions and answers. If more people come here donations would increase in my opinion.
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I see what you are saying and there is no need to get upset, but the problem is that if these questions attract people to the forum, why didn't they attract people the first several times they were posted? The answer is because the people that are making these posts clearly didn't search or read in the first place or they would have seen that the question(s) have already been posted several times and they would have not felt the need to post the exact same question again. If these people were using Google to look for their answers here on XDA, they would be coming here to read about and learn about their issues (the links would show them the threads they need) but instead, they come here and post repetitive, already answered question. This tells me that they definitely are not searching in the first place. The Knowledge is already here and posting the same repetitive questions over and over again isn't increasing it. People aren't searching for it or reading about like they are supposed to (XDA rules). And those rules exist for a reason. 100 posts of the same question don't help anyone and slow down the overall usefulness of any forum. Donations are voluntary and, unless it is a bounty type of situation, are not anticipated. Any XDA developer will tell you that. And frankly, the people that don't take the time to search, read, and learn are not people that are giving donations to developers anyway.
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I see what you are saying and there is no need to get upset, but the problem is that if these questions attract people to the forum, why didn't they attract people the first several times they were posted? The answer is because the people that are making these posts clearly didn't search or read in the first place or they would have seen that the question(s) have already been posted several times and they would have not felt the need to post the exact same question again. If these people were using Google to look for their answers here on XDA, they would be coming here to read about and learn about their issues (the links would show them the threads they need) but instead, they come here and post repetitive, already answered question. This tells me that they definitely are not searching in the first place. The Knowledge is already here and posting the same repetitive questions over and over again isn't increasing it. People aren't searching for it or reading about like they are supposed to (XDA rules). And those rules exist for a reason. 100 posts of the same question don't help anyone and slow down the overall usefulness of any forum. Donations are voluntary and, unless it is a bounty type of situation, are not anticipated. Any XDA developer will tell you that. And frankly, the people that don't take the time to search, read, and learn are not people that are giving donations to developers anyway.
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Alright that's fair. Never thought of that way. I try to donate when I can, but your definitely right about the donations.
I agree, it does attract people to the forum, but you do NOT need to post the issue in 2 threads, also, people get tired of seeing the same thing ask over and over, so read the rules of the site, because this is just plain shows laziness.
Its like if someone post something that has been said before and clutter the forum, it only makes the answered forum harder to search for because you have 1 answered forum against 30 unanswered cluttering up the forum pushing the 1 down and making it harder to find.
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Am I alone in thinking that every ROM/kernel/mod getting their own Q & A thread is messy, fragmented, confusing and generally Not A Good Thing?
They're here to stay unfortunately, mods choice, but sheesh.... Even more room for dumb questions that have been answered many gazillion times before.
My $0.02.
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So, what, you want all 5,867,631 members posting every question they have about every ROM single in one massive topic? Or would you prefer that everyone makes a new thread for every question? Which will inevitably lead to thousands of people asking the exact same question over and over and over again, making a new thread for every single one.
Good luck sorting out that nightmare.
Information is much more specific, sorted and organised this way. You need specific information in a thread, that's what the 'Search this thread' bar on the top right side is for.
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So, what, you want all 5,867,631 members posting every question they have about every ROM single in one massive topic? Or would you prefer that everyone makes a new thread for every question? Which will inevitably lead to thousands of people asking the exact same question over and over and over again, making a new thread for every single one.
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In my experience, the latter is exactly what's going to happen anyway. Always has been that way, always will.
Your point of view is cogent, logical and eminently sensible. And that's why this new system won't work - because those who can't /won't use search, read more than one post, start with "I've tried searching but it didn't help" etc continue down their diametrically opposed routes...
I also have read one dev stating that he wants no part of an extra Q & A forum and won't be replying to any questions there.
So who gains?
A further thought - from what I can see, the Q&A Bot seems to be triggered by questions in the ROM/kernel fora/threads, judging by the redirects to the new Q&A threads.
But some of the former threads are 20+ pages long. I cannot see how further fragmentation will possibly lead to less clutter. Duplicate questions answered in different sub-fora, and extra threads for people not to search in will be the result. Hope I'm wrong. But I'm not, wait and see
Here's a prime example....
In all honesty i dont care how they want to structure the forum.
I do personally think it should be the other way Around. i.e. The MAIN Release of the ROM is on the Q&A and people have to earn the correct Rep to post in the Dev Section.
Why...
Well most people on this forum dont know how to use a search function, So what better way, Post your question in one section
Then post it again in another section, Double the chances / speed of being answered.
If a user cannot google a question or search the forum, How do the expect to filter the stupidity down by opening a new thread for people to post stupid questions.
Each Thread Q&A has all the normal stuff it does right now.
The Thread links off to the Dev section, where you will need X Reputation in order to post stuff in the development section.
I think this would reduce the stupid question and leave the developers forum free for actual debug, issues and fix's being posted.
Regardless of what suggestions are made, They will never be taken on board. Mods aint what they used to be Maybe i have been here too long.
No disrespect of course