Database Users

Noobs please take notice.

Guys and Gals,
Please do us all a favor and do some analysis prior posting a rant or complaint about this build or that build in the cooks thread, do us a favor and do a little bit of analysis so you can give those that might be able to help some more info other than "this build sucks and my phone is broken".
And certainly dont ask what build you should try next because noone is gonna give you that info. Every cook had placed a disclaimer in there thread (I think) cautioning that all this is at your own risk.
I, for one, am tired of reading posts that do nothing more than bash the work of the people that are putting in all the time.

I think asking which build is "best" is a natural question but you make very valid points.
My only complaint is the lack of stickies for informative threads that could answer noob questions before they even get a chance to scroll down.

the things you are asking people to do are located in almost every thread in the Android forums. If they haven't stopped asking questions that could be answered with 5 minutes of reading or tested out ROMs on their own before this thread, you posting a thread about it is not going to change anything.

who u calling a noob

all the stickies and informative threads in the world aren't gonna stop people asking the same dumbass questions over and over and over and over again.....
people are just lazy and want to be spoon fed....... (most of em anyway)

orangekid said:
the things you are asking people to do are located in almost every thread in the Android forums. If they haven't stopped asking questions that could be answered with 5 minutes of reading or tested out ROMs on their own before this thread, you posting a thread about it is not going to change anything.
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Ah yes, another example of the supreme arrogace of many of the denizens of this forum.
Sorry, but the vast majority of the information about the specifics of running android on the HD2 is buried or never well explained.
Examples include the PPP vs RMNET dichotomy, different kernel sources, AXI, how ringtones on the internal data store don't work, etc.
Hell, I've been floating around for over a month and still don't have a clue what AXI means.
While I agree, that yes, a lot of questions can be answered from the couple of informative stickies, it is irritating how much info it is assumed you know, and the casual disregard for how much of a time investment is actually needed to get a handle on what is going on.

@OP... your sentiment is appreciated but this won't serve any purpose except to start a flame war. Locking it down.

General rules we should all follow

Here are some rules from the Vibrant section we should all follow.
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This was a good meeting in General and it has covered all of the things that I had in my agenda. A few action items on our (mods) end:
1. New threads for ROM updates: Rom threads become quasi chaotic after page 100 or so. Since Chefs update most of their work often, I would suggest that chefs open a new thread for each version with a date and version number to distinguish it from the previous one (maybe even a name)
ie [ROM] 12/15/10 - Inchybrid v 1.2 - all is good now
2. Rom Review Thread: In order to minimize the clutter of the usual "what rom is best" questions, we will start a ROM thread where chefs can post a link to their roms on the first few posts and users will be able to leave reviews (not necessarily feedback), but reviews. So, when someone comes asking for the best rom, that person can be directed there.
3. Wiki update and guides (sticky): These need to be heavily updated, but will certainly be a useful tool to help people with questions.
4. Location / shape of the Report button: I will talk to the other admins and see what can be done about this one.
5. Preventing non-devs from making new threads in Dev: We are currently discussing a system for this. We will keep you posted if and when we reach a conclusion.
6. Off Topic Lounge: There will be a thread in General for you guys to blow off steam. Nothing fancy, but you can post there without having to open a new thread in OT general
Now, onto the action items results and requests from us (mods)
1. Further flaming for questions will not be tolerated. I gathered from this meeting that everyone agrees on a stance that people need not be flamed for asking anything. If there are questions in the wrong areas or simply don't feel like answering, refrain from posting and report it to us. We will move it to Q&A or General depending on the question. Building on this point, if anyone is caught flaming someone who posted in the correct section, that person will be given a vacation.
2. Rule 12 (aka Kanging): Rom chefs (no matter if they are themers or zip wizards), if they are using someone else's efforts as a base for their rom, they are to abide by Rule 12 by asking permission and posting the due credit in the opening post. Kanging will not be tolerated.
3. Donations: This was barely brushed but I feel that we reached an understanding rather quickly on this one. Chefs shall not ask for Donations to release early work.
4. Posting any kind of flaming will not be tolerated. If you feel that a post shouldn't be there, please let us know and we will take care of that.
I think this pretty much summed everything up. If I missed something, please let me know. I expect everyone to adhere to codes of conduct in this site. Thanks to all for attending.
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That would be great if the mods are able to only give thread permissions to devs. This forum needs this kind of policing, but I think more Mods could help as well, it seems like Zelendel is the only Mod that comes around here.

flashman2002 said:
That would be great if the mods are able to only give thread permissions to devs. This forum needs this kind of policing, but I think more Mods could help as well, it seems like Zelendel is the only Mod that comes around here.
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Sounds very familiar..............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9591647&postcount=3155

Sqdnguns said:
Sounds very familiar..............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9591647&postcount=3155
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Sweet, but I did not steal your thoughts if that is what you are meaning lol. I haven't used Perception since v4 so I had no idea you said this. But it really is a great idea and should be looked at by the Mods and Admin.

flashman2002 said:
Sweet, but I did not steal your thoughts if that is what you are meaning lol. I haven't used Perception since v4 so I had no idea you said this. But it really is a great idea and should be looked at by the Mods and Admin.
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Not at all, just glad someone else actually piped in on it.

5. Preventing non-devs from making new threads in Dev: We are currently discussing a system for this. We will keep you posted if and when we reach a conclusion.
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interesting idea.
If you do this you might consider making altering/combining the other forums slightly.
For instance
Make:
General = General / Q&A
and
Q & A = Development Q&A
This way non-dev with specific Development/Rom related' Q's could start threads under Dev. Q & A without cluttering up the General Q&A or the Development Threads.

bames said:
interesting idea.
If you do this you might consider making altering/combining the other forums slightly.
For instance
Make:
General = General / Q&A
and
Q & A = Development Q&A
This way non-dev with specific Development/Rom related' Q's could start threads under Dev. Q & A without cluttering up the General Q&A or the Development Threads.
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I've always thought something similar to this. It seems like a frequent misperception among those with posts <10 that Q&A is for those that know nothing, and the development thread is where you go if you know anything about development (and then you can also post a question there)
I for sure thought this when I first came to XDA (luckily I read the stickies which made that clear). But changing the name could help.
Sent from my SGH-T959D using XDA App

Or another idea would not be to just completely lock the Dev thread to devs, but to perhaps have a minimum level of seniority/experience to post -- aka Senior members.
The reason that I say this is that there are a ton of folks that are not devs, but do post a lot of helpful troubleshooting information and/or feedback that not all the devs can answer personally. I would much rather the devs use their precious time on getting us the next version of goodness rather than answering a lot of questions.
If you do require some level of seniority (100+ posts for example) you can probably cut down on a lot of the typical questions that are repeatedly asked (and answered a few posts back) and have a much cleaner thread. It's not a perfect world, but offenders can be dealt with individually when you have a smaller pool.
Not to say that noobs shouldn't have a place to ask questions -- we were all there at one time, but we just make sure there is a different area for this -- not clogging the particular ROM thread.
I've seen several other forums and communities operate with this type of principle in high value areas. It also allows newer members to get their feet wet and contribute in other areas by posting for others if they want to post in the dev community (but lurking will always be allowed / should be encouraged).
Just my 2 cents.

I have Stuck this as I agree 100000000000%. As far as locking the the Dev section, that has been talked about and is not going to happen anytime in the near future. My suggestion is for everyone and yes that means YOU to treat everyone with respect and dignity. If someone goes off I am almost always on and read every pm so let me know as I cant be everywhere at once and I am still learning as well.

Wow great ideas, I couldn't agree more. +1

I like the idea of new post for new versions, I hope that would cut down on the flaming too due to missing a one line post on page 999 of 1200 that would answer the question.

I disagree with the 'only devs can post in the dev section' rule. While I would technically not be considered a dev (per se) because I do not know how to make a ROM I would still like to be able to post in that section things that are technically not ROMs but do not fit in general. For example, I created the Galaxy S unlocker for Mac, but I have not figured out how to make a ROM. Does that make me a developer or not?

agreed man

+1 to the new ROM new thread idea. That would cut way down on the Old Salty XDA member yelling at the noob interactions.
Oh and i believe it should be illegal to call the Captivate a "Cappy" FYL

Don't worry about the guide portion, I have a guide in the works that covers everything from installing drivers to the update-script.
Another thing I would like to personally add. When new users or the not-so-inclined make a thread asking for help, do any of us stop to realize why that thread ends up on the Development board? In my opinion, we need a board dedicated to SUPPORT. Yeah, we have Q&A, but Q&A doesn't say Support to a lot of people. Example, Q&A to me spells "Information", not "Support." Sure, the Q&A's may be intended to be "My phone won't turn on", or "My 3g doesn't work", but if that's the case, why beat around the bush and call it Q&A?
There are those of us out there who do enjoy helping newcomers, and answering their questions; regardless of what board they post on; and there are those of us who like to get deep into this, leave support for the less experienced and get *$&! done. Know how we could cut back on flaming, and on people posting in the wrong board? Spell it out for them, in big bold letters; "Captivate Support". Not only that, dev's could start up a sister thread for each ROM they do in the support board, that way the actual release thread isn't a mess.
Maybe I'm just dumb though.

I have to say I particularly like the flaming rules. Sure, noobs are going to ask questions that everyone else has known the answer to for the past 5 months. I know it can get tedious reading these same things all the time, but remember that we once were noobs too, and I would bet most of us have asked "dumb" questions when first starting out. People are excited to learn about this stuff...let's not take away the spark with ad hominem attacks. They serve no purpose whatsoever, and no one wants to read them. If you don't want to answer, keep your mouth shut. If you do, do so politely either directly or (probably a little better), point them to a thread that will answer their questions. But come on, users calling a noob an "idiot" or "dumbass" for asking an honest question really pisses me off. And like I said, remember that you probably did it at some point, too. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now

geokhentix said:
Don't worry about the guide portion, I have a guide in the works that covers everything from installing drivers to the update-script.
Another thing I would like to personally add. When new users or the not-so-inclined make a thread asking for help, do any of us stop to realize why that thread ends up on the Development board? In my opinion, we need a board dedicated to SUPPORT. Yeah, we have Q&A, but Q&A doesn't say Support to a lot of people. Example, Q&A to me spells "Information", not "Support." Sure, the Q&A's may be intended to be "My phone won't turn on", or "My 3g doesn't work", but if that's the case, why beat around the bush and call it Q&A?
There are those of us out there who do enjoy helping newcomers, and answering their questions; regardless of what board they post on; and there are those of us who like to get deep into this, leave support for the less experienced and get *$&! done. Know how we could cut back on flaming, and on people posting in the wrong board? Spell it out for them, in big bold letters; "Captivate Support"
Maybe I'm just dumb though.
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I think this is also a good idea, primarily for those with stock phones or just performing basic procedures (e.g. rooting).
As for the bold letters, personally, I like just linking to the proper forum instead...something like "This question should be answered in the Support forum. It's located here: http://.......". But, hey, that's personal preference. You're way's fine, too

bknust said:
I think this is also a good idea, primarily for those with stock phones or just performing basic procedures (e.g. rooting).
As for the bold letters, personally, I like just linking to the proper forum instead...something like "This question should be answered in the Support forum. It's located here: http://.......". But, hey, that's personal preference. You're way's fine, too
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No no, I don't mean bold letters to the people asking for help. I mean bold letters for the forum title so people know it's there. Support speaks louder than Q&A, especially with all the multilingual folks we have on here.

geokhentix said:
No no, I don't mean bold letters to the people asking for help. I mean bold letters for the forum title so people know it's there. Support speaks louder than Q&A, especially with all the multilingual folks we have on here.
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Oops! Sorry, misunderstood. Yes, that would be a very good way to filter out a lot of the basic stuff. Good idea!

nbs11 said:
I disagree with the 'only devs can post in the dev section' rule. While I would technically not be considered a dev (per se) because I do not know how to make a ROM I would still like to be able to post in that section things that are technically not ROMs but do not fit in general. For example, I created the Galaxy S unlocker for Mac, but I have not figured out how to make a ROM. Does that make me a developer or not?
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As far as I'm concerned, an unlocker for Mac does indeed belong in development with the current structure of xda. It's kind of one of those things that could go under Apps, but when I think of apps, I think of your standard user apps, not rooting/unlocking/ROM/etc. tools/hacks. Maybe there should be a forum strictly for ROM dev and a separate one for general system dev. To me, they are different. That's just how I see it, but I'm sure there are quite a few differing views on this.

[Q] Y do I have to post 10 times before I can reply to a post in the dev forum?

I don't think this is fair. I can understand creating your own posts on those forums, but why prevent people who can add insight to problems or have a solution no be able to post a reply to any dev post? I'm sorry, I think is not fair.

so instead of writing 10 meaningful posts you decide to ***** instead? its fair! you know why its fair? because people come on this forum and dont know how to use the search button and then they post irrelevant stuff in places that it doesnt belong to--like the dev setion. say this person wants to root their device. a typical nooob will just scan the first page of the forum and if they dont see what they want there, guess what they'll do? they will post a question. if there were no limit then 90% of those posts would end up in the dev section. obviously 10 posts is not enough. i mean just look in the section for urself. Majority of the irrelevant posts have ben cleaned up but still! idk how many times i have seen "how do i root?" in that section. I am not saying every new poster is like this, but majority of them are. look how bad it is now with a minimum, imagine if there weren't a minimum! 10 posts is fair. it should be 20!
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For me its a Catch 22. I've had plenty of times where I might have something meaningful to say in a dev thread, but then I hit this and go try and find threads in the regular forum that I can add to. Usually I don't find any that I can actually add anything new and give up after 5 minutes, as I have real work to do.
Oh well...

so.... can we post 10x here instead?

salacc said:
so.... can we post 10x here instead?
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Good question

I think the limit should be 25 posts before they can make a thread in the Dev section. The limitation on requiring 10 posts to reply to the dev section threads don't make sense as they might have a question. But yeah, newbies to the forums should be limited in making new threads in the dev section so stuff like "How do I root" doesn't push all the useful threads into the second page.

frosty5689 said:
I think the limit should be 25 posts before they can make a thread in the Dev section. The limitation on requiring 10 posts to reply to the dev section threads don't make sense as they might have a question. But yeah, newbies to the forums should be limited in making new threads in the dev section so stuff like "How do I root" doesn't push all the useful threads into the second page.
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I agree with 25 to start a new thread in the DEV sections.
Also shouldn't be any limitation to reply as that's just silly.

frosty5689 said:
I think the limit should be 25 posts before they can make a thread in the Dev section. The limitation on requiring 10 posts to reply to the dev section threads don't make sense as they might have a question. But yeah, newbies to the forums should be limited in making new threads in the dev section so stuff like "How do I root" doesn't push all the useful threads into the second page.
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I like this idea too! Yes replying is ok but making a post is a different story.
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lots of stuff in the dev posts require reading and comprehending, if you cant do a simple thing like that you probably shouldnt be trying to root your device or chilling in the dev section.....i mean jeez people post guides in the dev section for a reason....

i kinda understand the 10 post thing, but to me too, it's rather troubling, as they might be something that i wanna ask on the dev forum too at times, but notice i cant cos of my post counts

I don't like it either but it's the rules.

As a N00b - I understand
I'm really new to XDA and I've run into this to...
On the up side the 10 post rule has saved me from getting flamed for saying something stupid.
As a noob I have been lurking and reading posts for months learning to root and flash my HD2 and transformer. It takes ages to get your head around all the terminology and start to have constructive things to add!
I will bide my time until i have the skills to contribute to the community in a meaningful way - til then the best i can do is click the donate button for the Devs.
Any suggestions on good threads to use to level up my droid skills always appreciated!

FYI-the 10 post min was implemented for spammers.
Unfortunately, there are cases where it's a hassle for users with knowledge
FYI AGAIN- You do realize you posted in the wrong forum
This should be in XDA-General or pff-topic

I totally understand and agree with the 10 post requirement.
Too many times I've seen replies like this...
"Sorry if this has been answered before but I haven't read all 50 pages" and then they ask something that of course has been answered a hundred times.
There are also a lot of times that I wanted to help someone in the dev forum but I didn't have 10 posts, but that's ok, because chances are someone else can help soon because threads are usually very active, which is why a noob doesn't want to read it in the first place.
Anyone who wants to help out on the forum can easily find a way to get 10 posts without spamming and actually join the community.
In my opinion, the 10 posts does a lot to help keep the boards clean, as least, cleaner than it would be without it.
People who aren't willing to read and find 10 threads to reply to, and attempt to be part of the community, may not even stick around past asking their question that has been answered before.

Because the majority of the time the same question has been asked over and over again and new forum members are often too stupid to use the search function.

Could you imagine the FLOOD of posts that would be added without the 10 post rule? It's hard enough to find anything *DEVELOPMENT* related in the development forums even with the 10 post rule. Already 85% is about HOWTO not about bugs, development, etc...
Not complaining, hey were all human (not quite androids yet), just saying that I wouldn't want to have to wade through an additional 40 posts a day from people who haven't bothered reading at all...

I'm sorry ,but it seems many of you read the question that I wrote and assumed something completely different.
1) I asked why can't I reply to a post on the Dev forums. You did not hear me state why can't I create a post in the Dev forums. Those are completely different statements and they are not one and the same.
2) As to the fact that a lot of newbs ask the same question a zillion other newbs have asked in these forums. The fact is if you don't know how to read the rules in the first sticky post on any forum then yes you are stupid for not seen the search tools above the page. Furthermore is for this exact reason why I asked the question. Why do I want to spam these forums with useless posts about things I can get from other posts or just Google it? Like many Devs state while rooting your device, you need a couple of things, patience and a little gray matter. So sure I'll go ahead and be the stupid newb that creates idiotic posts just so that he can reach the 10 mark and then post or comment on something useful for a change.
3) Rules are rules and sometimes when people ask if they could be bent they can't and sometimes they can. That is the point of asking the question. If you consider me a troll, a newb, a dweeb or any other lame names then sure have your fun at my expense. I'm certainly more adult then you for asking the question instead of s this and f that. You didn't see that in my post.
4) mike1022, since you are a moderator and know more about what should be posted where I will next time try to post in the appropriate forum. I have a TF101 that I have rooted with the help of many great Devs in the Devs forum and since this was the general posting forum for TF owners I thought it was the appropriate place. My apologies if I made a mistake.
To the few of you who provided constructive criticism, I thank you for for taking the time and effort.

I understand
I understand the need to post 10 times before being to reply in some forums, I'm sure this cuts down on a lot of unnecessary posts. I would really like to help out, but I will attempt to follow the rules and post 10 times so i can post in there
For example, I saw someone post a unix script in the fre3vo thread for Sensation. Then someone asked what about windows. I had already copied his script and converted it to a .bat and tested it on my phone. I would love to post there for them to use, however, I need to get my 10 posts out of the way first.
Here's the zip I would like to post in that thread (contains both unix and windows script). I can script the fre3vo temp root steps in front of it too.
For windows, set up the temp root using the fre3vo steps then run script.bat
EDIT1: grrr, apparently it only works for a few minutes, and simply rerunning it doesn't fix it again. Also, the .bat file i put in there could use some cleaning up...
EDIT2: And before anyone says anything, yes, I am a newb to android, last Saturday was the first time I even touched an android device. Feel free to flame me.
EDIT3: I just noticed this is in the Eee Pad forum, I just did a search for "10 posts before reply." Sorry for posting in the wrong area.

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And before anyone says anything, yes, I am a newb to android, last Saturday was the first time I even touched an android device. Feel free to flame me.
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Welcome but remember google & the search function are your friends.

I have found that you can always send a personal message instead, does not help the group but at least you get a reply

[Q&A] (Hopefully) noob-friendly Q&A thread

Hi everyone,
As a result of my initial noobiness (I still am, honestly) and the questions that have been asked here in the App Development Forums (ADF), I had an idea.
Why not create a thread where people can ask their questions and have them answered, instead of having this parts of the ADF being cluttered? This way, questions don't push away threads with guides and projects as quickly.
In addition, I was thinking that based on the questions in this thread, maybe in cooperation with a couple of (set) people, new threads with guides can be created. It'll help get the forums going and be a good source of info for the community.
So, what does everyone think? I guess it can be good .
Regards,
bassie1995

I think that more complex problems will not be answered as the first post might be 3 or more pages earlier. Nobody will go back to read that.
Additionally, people will mix up different problems.
I think that it will just provide good answers for problems which can easily done by using Google. And these questions are the ones I usually do not reply to.
So I do not think that it will be helpful.
Nothing against you.
Thanks for your effort. :good:

nikwen said:
I think that more complex problems will not be answered as the first post might be 3 or more pages earlier. Nobody will go back to read that.
Additionally, people will mix up different problems.
I think that it will just provide good answers for problems which can easily done by using Google. And these questions are the ones I usually do not reply to.
So I do not think that it will be helpful.
Nothing against you.
Thanks for your effort. :good:
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I had thought about that, but it depends on how much people post here. Also, I must admit that some problems, Google does not solve. I had some issues that I couldn't really find a solution to on YT, neither in tutorials nor in questions, etc.

[Q] S4 questions please help

Hi all I'm new to android and have been reading a ton
But have a few question?
1. I have a bell s4 Smg-i337 with latest firmware (I believe moto chopper will not work)
But think cw autoroot root method works
Am I correct or how can I root with latest firmware
2. If I install GE rom will it use less storage
(Right now Touchwiz only give my phone like 9.2gb but I read the GE editions s4 doesn't use up as much space)
So will flashing a rom free up space ?
3. Is removing bloat ware bad previously I would just freeze the app but I'm curious about removing it (I read somewhere that if u remove it it screws up ur phone for updates ?
Is that true?
That's all for now thank you

duboisbrian said:
Hi all I'm new to android and have been reading a ton
But have a few question?
1. I have a bell s4 Smg-i337 with latest firmware (I believe moto chopper will not work)
But think cw 10.2 root method works
Am I correct or how can I root with latest firmware
2. If I install GE rom will it use less storage
(Right now Touchwiz only give my phone like 9.2gb but I read the GE editions s4 doesn't use up as much space)
So will flashing a rom free up space ?
3. Is removing bloat ware bad previously I would just freeze the app but I'm curious about removing it (I read somewhere that if u remove it it screws up ur phone for updates ?
Is that true?
That's all for now thank you
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Please read the XDA forum rules.
Questions should be posted in the Q & A section...
However,
before questions are posted in the Q &A section, you should search for already posted answers and look at the "similar suggested links" that appeared while you were posting your question.
I suggest you do what I posted above and also (very important) read the "pinned" threads in the "General" section to help you learn more about your phone. Good luck.
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Ok, so you decided to only read the first part of what I said and make a duplicate thread in Q & A without reading the second part about searching and reading BEFORE posting in Q & A..you know, like the XDA rules state?
And for future reference, the little triangle in the top of your post can be used to notify the moderators that a thread needs to be moved to a different section. Making multiple posts is considered spamming.

Very sorry
Please delete thread
Thank you
Sorry

scott14719 said:
Please read the XDA forum rules.
Questions should be posted in the Q & A section...
However,
before questions are posted in the Q &A section, you should search for already posted answers and look at the "similar suggested links" that appeared while you were posting your question.
I suggest you do what I posted above and also (very important) read the "pinned" threads in the "General" section to help you learn more about your phone. Good luck.
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Ok, so you decided to only read the first part of what I said and make a duplicate thread in Q & A without reading the second part about searching and reading BEFORE posting in Q & A..you know, like the XDA rules state?
And for future reference, the little triangle in the top of your post can be used to notify the moderators that a thread needs to be moved to a different section. Making multiple posts is considered spamming.
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If I may say without you getting all upset..
These questions attract people to this forum, especially through Google. More people = more knowledge, through questions and answers. If more people come here donations would increase in my opinion.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium HD app

agent929 said:
If I may say without you getting all upset..
These questions attract people to this forum, especially through Google. More people = more knowledge, through questions and answers. If more people come here donations would increase in my opinion.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium HD app
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I see what you are saying and there is no need to get upset, but the problem is that if these questions attract people to the forum, why didn't they attract people the first several times they were posted? The answer is because the people that are making these posts clearly didn't search or read in the first place or they would have seen that the question(s) have already been posted several times and they would have not felt the need to post the exact same question again. If these people were using Google to look for their answers here on XDA, they would be coming here to read about and learn about their issues (the links would show them the threads they need) but instead, they come here and post repetitive, already answered question. This tells me that they definitely are not searching in the first place. The Knowledge is already here and posting the same repetitive questions over and over again isn't increasing it. People aren't searching for it or reading about like they are supposed to (XDA rules). And those rules exist for a reason. 100 posts of the same question don't help anyone and slow down the overall usefulness of any forum. Donations are voluntary and, unless it is a bounty type of situation, are not anticipated. Any XDA developer will tell you that. And frankly, the people that don't take the time to search, read, and learn are not people that are giving donations to developers anyway.

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I see what you are saying and there is no need to get upset, but the problem is that if these questions attract people to the forum, why didn't they attract people the first several times they were posted? The answer is because the people that are making these posts clearly didn't search or read in the first place or they would have seen that the question(s) have already been posted several times and they would have not felt the need to post the exact same question again. If these people were using Google to look for their answers here on XDA, they would be coming here to read about and learn about their issues (the links would show them the threads they need) but instead, they come here and post repetitive, already answered question. This tells me that they definitely are not searching in the first place. The Knowledge is already here and posting the same repetitive questions over and over again isn't increasing it. People aren't searching for it or reading about like they are supposed to (XDA rules). And those rules exist for a reason. 100 posts of the same question don't help anyone and slow down the overall usefulness of any forum. Donations are voluntary and, unless it is a bounty type of situation, are not anticipated. Any XDA developer will tell you that. And frankly, the people that don't take the time to search, read, and learn are not people that are giving donations to developers anyway.
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Alright that's fair. Never thought of that way. I try to donate when I can, but your definitely right about the donations.

I agree, it does attract people to the forum, but you do NOT need to post the issue in 2 threads, also, people get tired of seeing the same thing ask over and over, so read the rules of the site, because this is just plain shows laziness.

Its like if someone post something that has been said before and clutter the forum, it only makes the answered forum harder to search for because you have 1 answered forum against 30 unanswered cluttering up the forum pushing the 1 down and making it harder to find.
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