The MMS on the froyo build 2.2 build that i have Doesnt work at all. I've tried all APN's that have been given. Instead of 3G by the signal bars I get an H.
Any suggestions on fixing the MMS and the Data Connection signal from H to 3G?
Any other builds I could use that fix this?
what are you complaining about?!?! H is better than 3g its tmobiles new hspd mobile network as good as 4g...
Hah, I wasnt sure at all. Thanks Though?
yea you should want the "H" instead of the "3G" it connects to tmobiles new HSPA 4g like speeds....i ran a speedtest the download speeds arent that fast either on 3g or the H. when running android.
705 said:
yea you should want the "H" instead of the "3G" it connects to tmobiles new HSPA 4g like speeds....i ran a speedtest the download speeds arent that fast either on 3g or the H. when running android.
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H and 3G are the same.. HSDPA not HSPA+.. just an FYI..
Hsdpa typo.
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HSPL speed is 21 mbps
3G speed is 7 mbps
HSPL is better than just 3G
justinmcnairy said:
HSPL speed is 21 mbps
3G speed is 7 mbps
HSPL is better than just 3G
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its HSPA+ 21mbps.. also backward compatible with HSDPA 7.2mbps.
where can i find Froyo 2.2
where can I find the link to download?
Hmm, It toggles from H to 3g so on and so forth.
so am i getting the HSDPA or what ever or not?
a H work beter than 3g
So just curious, I have this feeling that all 3G connections say H+ on the Atrix. I am at home on an AT&T 3G Microcell and it says H+ on my phone and I know for damn sure the Microcell doesn't support HSPA+ speeds.
Any input?
It will display the H+ on every connection besides 2G (edge).
Probably means HSDPA, which most of ATT's 3G network has (the 7.2 network)
thunderpack said:
Probably means HSDPA, which most of ATT's 3G network has (the 7.2 network)
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Nope.
The correct answer is: AT&T has turned on HSPA+ connectivity on all towers, even if the backhaul is not there to support it.
So, this means that if you have a HSPA+ "4g" device it will show H+ irregardless of if the tower is actually broadcasting HSAP+ speeds.
Yea but a microcell device doesnt support HSPA+ thus there is nothing to turn on...
leadguy68 said:
Nope.
The correct answer is: AT&T has turned on HSPA+ connectivity on all towers, even if the backhaul is not there to support it.
So, this means that if you have a HSPA+ "4g" device it will show H+ irregardless of if the tower is actually broadcasting HSAP+ speeds.
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Ya, that's not correct at all. There are plenty of user towers (microcells) that haven't been patched or "turned on" for HSPA+ and they're still showing the "H+" in the top.
The reason is because AT&T 3G *IS* HSPA...so instead of saying 3G it just says H.
Does anyone know why the hd2 has hsdpa support (hspa+ downloads) before T-Mobile's hspa 4g campaign? It can be considered as half of a 4g device since it only supports 4g downloads but not 4g uploads.
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the htc hd2 supports up to 7.2Mbps. But the real 4G t-mobile is coming out is 40+
HSDPA and HSPA+ are 2 different things.
TmoUS HD2 does support HSDPA (when you see the H in the taskbar) but does not support HSPA+
HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) is actually more like 3G+ since I do get insane download speeds on it, and it has the actual capacity to get 14.4 MBPS down (although I don't know anyone who gets that)
HSPA+ (Evolved High-Speed Packet Access) can get up to 42 MBPS down and our phones do not support this.
I have my phone with gingerblur and it only shows H. My gf's is stock and afaik only shows H+.
Is there a way I can find out which mode I'm in?
I looked in settings > status and there it's just HSDPA usually and says 3G
Thanks!
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Without doing a speed test =D maybe you could alter the pic used but I'd have to research more. Haven't themed that much.
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According to Jessica Wilson (952.703.4316) at Atts Office of the Pres, the H+ icon indicates you are on a 3G capable network. I know thats not helpful, but thats Atts answer to your question.
The Atrix SW only uses one icon for 3G connection, no matter whether it's 3G or HSPA. In stock, that's H+, in GingerBlur it's H. I set it to 3G on my modified GingerBlur. Cheating? Maybe.
You can do an H+ icon and push it into GingerBlur's framework-res.apk and replace it on your phone, if you really must have the +.
I got to ask, at my work place I don't get 3g but usually edge but once I got gingerblur at home I get (H) and when I go to work I get (E) and sometimes (G). I would think (E) stands for edge but what is (G) if (H) is for 3g? Thanks
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I got to ask, at my work place I don't get 3g but usually edge but once I got gingerblur at home I get (H) and when I go to work I get (E) and sometimes (G). I would think (E) stands for edge but what is (G) if (H) is for 3g? Thanks
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g - 1g, e -2g, 3g, h+ - 4g
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Jessica Wilson (952.703.4316) at Atts Office of the Pres
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Number noted and applied to restroom walls!
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steevquinn said:
g - 1g, e -2g, 3g, h+ - 4g
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Thats confusing and wrong bud...
1G is the old Analogue system from like 20 years ago
G = GPRS or 2G
E = Edge or 2.5G
H = UTMS or 3G
H+ = HSDPA or 3.5G/4G
Thats what it should be... I think
tehrules said:
Thats confusing and wrong bud...
1G is the old Analogue system from like 20 years ago
G = GPRS or 2G
E = Edge or 2.5G
H = UTMS or 3G
H+ = HSDPA or 3.5G/4G
Thats what it should be... I think
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H+ should be HSPA and/or HSPA+. Otherwise, you're right on the mark.
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H+ should be HSPA and/or HSPA+. Otherwise, you're right on the mark.
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Cool
HSDPA / HSPA same thing, or quoting wikipedia "an amalgamation of HSDPA and HSPUA"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access
razorseal said:
I have my phone with gingerblur and it only shows H. My gf's is stock and afaik only shows H+.
Is there a way I can find out which mode I'm in?
I looked in settings > status and there it's just HSDPA usually and says 3G
Thanks!
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you won't be truly HSPA+ (H+) until enhanced backhaul has been installed at cell sites in your area.
check the coverage map:
http://www.att.com/network/
click coverage at the bottom and run your cursor over the map of the US. Cities that have had some enhanced backhaul installed will show up as you mouse over them.
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H+ should be HSPA and/or HSPA+. Otherwise, you're right on the mark.
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Any 3G connection - normal (UMTS), HSPA or HSPA+, is displayed as:
- H+ in stock
- H in GingerBlur
G is GPRS and E is Edge. For some reason, I don't get Edge here in Singapore. Maybe they don't have it. Or maybe the Atrix doesn't distinguish between G and E anymore in 1.8.3... Or maybe Atrix is incompatible with Edge here. No idea.
I think the classifications of the different connection speeds in Android are a bit dumb.
My Nokia N900 displays, 2G for GPRS, 2.5G for Edge, 3G for UTMS, 3.5G for HSPA (Obviously if it supported HSPA/LTE/WiMax etc, it would display 4G lol) and that makes logical sense to me.
Its really weird, my phone shows that my network is on hspa when I force it to wcdma only. I'm on Fido and they share rogers towers and their hsdpa? Random... I am however getting about 5 down and 1.5 up which is fast enough for me really.
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Go to your dialer and enter *#*#4636#*#*
Then go to Phone information, you should see your Network type there.
I've only seen two network icons in the stock status bar, E and H+ -- but H+ has been used while I'm on HSDPA and HSPA and even UMTS, so it's ultra unreliable, and I've never even seen HSPA+!
And an FYI:
No matter what the 4G coverage areas on the maps and what the mobile network company reps say, there are no true 4G networks in existence today, at least none that honor the original requirements for 4G.
Basically what occurred was that the ITU came up with a standard called 4G, companies falsely marketed 3G technologies as 4G, ITU gave up on the 4G standard, told the mobile network companies that they can keep the now meaningless term, and the ITU then made the IMT-Advanced standard which is what 4G should have been all along. IMT-Advanced solutions are in development, and not yet public.
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Its really weird, my phone shows that my network is on hspa when I force it to wcdma only. I'm on Fido and they share rogers towers and their hsdpa? Random... I am however getting about 5 down and 1.5 up which is fast enough for me really.
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Well, HSPA is just an upgrade to WCDMA = UMTS. So I am not surprised. I do not think you can force your phone to NOT use HSPA but remain on 3G.
If you want 2G only... that is GSM I think.
Hi guys,
I noticed that 4G (HSPA) drains my batter far more than 3.5G (HSDPA).
I noticed this because all day yesterday I was getting H only not H+ and I noticed my battery drained less than when its primarily connected to H+.
Is there a way to turn off HSPA (4G) but keep HSDPA (3.5G) active?
Thanks.
You are confusing yourself.
HSPA and HSDPA is same thing.
HSDPA = High Speed Downlink Packet Access (Downlink/download part of the HSPA)
HSUPA = High Speed Uplink Packet Access.
HSPA+ = Evolved High Speed Packet Access (faster)
All of these are 3.5G only. Some american carriers like to call HSPA/HSPA+ as 4G but its not.
Basically if network sometimes looses HSPA+ connectivity for short period due to network glitches or as per area sometimes. Thats why you were getting just H and not H+ for short period.
Nothing more to it. Phone is HSPA+ ready so if your network supports it, it will default to HSPA+. You can force it to be in EDGE mode, thats it.
Correct. HSDPA and HSPA+ (what he called 4g) is quite literally in every respect the exact same thing. Literally, they are both 3.5g. The battery drain was likely coincidental. More tests would certainly be needed.
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Correct. HSDPA and HSPA+ (what he called 4g) is quite literally in every respect the exact same thing. Literally, they are both 3.5g. The battery drain was likely coincidental. More tests would certainly be needed.
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Nope, HSDPA and HSPA are the same, as HSPA is just a container name for HSDPA and HSUPA. HSDPA+ is up to 84Mbit and HSDPA is up to 14Mbit.
Hmmm so apparently I cannot seperate HSPA from HSDPA as they are the same thing.
HSDPA + HSUPA = HSPA
So does that mean previously the upload rate was not as fast as the download so they introduced HSPA which combines a fast download (HSDPA) with a fast upload (HSUPA)?
Because it appears I can disable HSPA (HSDPA) but dialing *301279# and turning off HSPA which will give me 3G only.