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WTF? No HTML in Exchange mail Accounts?

I really cannot find 1 good reason for this...
The weird thing is that the Email app actually supports proper rendering of HTML mails: if you set up the same account as IMAP, HTML mails show up properly!
Any ideas? Anyone?

Nemphys said:
I really cannot find 1 good reason for this...
The weird thing is that the Email app actually supports proper rendering of HTML mails: if you set up the same account as IMAP, HTML mails show up properly!
Any ideas? Anyone?
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Known issue, not entirely sure why.
I bought "Touchdown for Exchange" for this among several other reasons.

Xmm, Touchdown again...
It really makes me wonder... Every single question about Exchange and Android brings up Touchdown sooner or later....
I personally find this app to be the most ugly looking thing on Android. It's so damn ugly, I am starting to wonder if there is a problem with my taste, since so many people don't care. It's as if some weird looking Windows CE 2.0 prank made it to my precious, beautiful Nexus One.
Wouldn't install it even for free.

Nemphys said:
It really makes me wonder... Every single question about Exchange and Android brings up Touchdown sooner or later....
I personally find this app to be the most ugly looking thing on Android. It's so damn ugly, I am starting to wonder if there is a problem with my taste, since so many people don't care. It's as if some weird looking Windows CE 2.0 prank made it to my precious, beautiful Nexus One.
Wouldn't install it even for free.
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Interesting, I've never critiqued it's appearance as functionality in an e-mail client is FAR more important to me then how it looks. But I can see what you mean. The widgets look kind of nice (tho admittedly i don't use them) but the rest of the program does kinda look "out of date." The features and performance I've seen with it (for me at least) far outweigh the appearance.

iTunes Sync from Desire FroYo?

I have been really excited over the new desire froyo. I had no idea that it supported direct iTunes sync. Is there any way this can be built into an eris rom? I would really love this since I'm totally sick of DoubleTwist and all the 3rd party sync options. Thanks.

Look dude devs are trying to port it over but it is hard since it is a different screen size than the Eris and they have to change all of the file sizes to fit the Eris which is hard because there is a hell of a lot of files.
I would love to have this Rom also but it is going to be a bit before we get it.
Sent from my Eris using XDA App

I haven't looked much into it but it should just be 1 or 2 apks that need to be ported for iTunes sync. If somebody PM's me the original rom, I can check it out.

I really don't care if I have to wait. I just wanted to know if it was possible. Yay. I'm looking forward to the day when I can do this

Out could be possible if outs built into a rom and strictly use apps2sd. But the you could lose some performance.
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zigzackattack said:
I have been really excited over the new desire froyo. I had no idea that it supported direct iTunes sync. Is there any way this can be built into an eris rom? I would really love this since I'm totally sick of DoubleTwist and all the 3rd party sync options. Thanks.
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I was looking into this yesterday because I thought that it would show up under itunes like the ipod does (or how the palm pre used to) but then I found out that it only worked under HTC Sync so I lost interest....

OK, I admit it, I went back to Sense UI

Ok, I admit it, I went back from Cyanogen 6.0 to a Fresh Sense UI to update my PRI and get another taste of the 4G speed. I have no intention of this being a hater, fanboy post but wow, the Sense UI environment just does not compare to Cyanogen. Cyanogen is just so much cleaner, faster and user friendly. And now with the RC for 6.1, it is simply amazing. I felt like the phone was lagging a bit under the Sense UI and felt over wrought with some silly interfaces.
I felt obligated to post this to 1. congratulate and thank Team Douche for an amazing AOSP that i never really fully appreciated until I regressed and 2. sincerely invite all of you Sense users to give Cyanogen a try. Again, I am no Android fan boy, just a guy who stumbled into XDA, thought this Rooting thing sounded interesting and gave Cyanogen a try. Now I am a very satisfied user.
I know the lack of 4G is a big deal and I do miss the speed but hopefully this will be resolved soon and when it is, I think Android will take a major step forward again.

Meh, glad you found what you like. I use a rom that had 4g and I've removed sense from it. I don't lag at all. And yes, I've run CM6, installed 3 different times. It offers nothing that a 4g rom with sense removed does. Well, besides the obvious: no 4g, horrible picture gallery, worse battery on average.
To each their own.
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/shrug i dont think anyone really cares im sure most flash roms like changing socks

You are probably right, no one cares but as Pao23 said "to each their own." And although XDA users are flash happy most Android users are still stock. I am just sharing an experience that might give someone some confidence in finding an option that might work better for them.

I wish I could run Cyanogen full time... But I use my phone for work email (exchange) and the aosp email client is horrible compared to the sense version. You can't even view the GAL on aosp, just a background lookup and resolve. On sense I can pull up the GAL and call a person directly through the company directory. I also love the copy paste features of sense as well. Full support for email tagging, way better calendar and meeting handling just to name a few. I guess I just expect a higher level of exchange support because of my prior WM experience and I know I am likely in the minority for big time exchange use.
Until someone figures out how to at least port the email over, or the aosp email client gets a huge makeover I'm stuck on sense.

I loved cyanogen... only reason I went back to sense is because of how much better the contact app is organized. I couldn't figure it out on aosp... but with sense I can manually sync my contacts rather than let the fb app try to get my contacts. That and other features of the sense contacts app. Wish i could figure it out

I didn't think about it, but I use my company directory through exchange quite often a well. I manage construction so am in the field generally.
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The Cyanogen RC 6.1 released today is supposed to contain enhancements to the mail client but to what extent I don't know as I don't use it. I can see how that could be a big limiting factor for you guys.

looneylu said:
I loved cyanogen... only reason I went back to sense is because of how much better the contact app is organized. I couldn't figure it out on aosp... but with sense I can manually sync my contacts rather than let the fb app try to get my contacts. That and other features of the sense contacts app. Wish i could figure it out
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really strange i fined the Cm6 contacts much better i have 600 + contacts and with sense i loads them all in to my phone :/

CheesyNutz said:
really strange i fined the Cm6 contacts much better i have 600 + contacts and with sense i loads them all in to my phone :/
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how'd you go about linking your contacts? i don't want to have to rename all my contacts so they can link properly

looneylu said:
how'd you go about linking your contacts? i don't want to have to rename all my contacts so they can link properly
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i have my "phone contacts" synced to my gmail acccount and use facebook to sync pics but with sense .... and HTC _facebook it syncs EVERY facebook contact
that's 1 of the reason i love CM6 it only syncs the contacts on my phone with facebook

looneylu said:
how'd you go about linking your contacts? i don't want to have to rename all my contacts so they can link properly
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Not so automatic but: Edit contact, hit menu, choose join. First name, last name, email, etc. one of those have to be similar.

Award Tour said:
Not so automatic but: Edit contact, hit menu, choose join. First name, last name, email, etc. one of those have to be similar.
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thanks, will give it a shot again... hope it works...

I think 4G is just a total battery waster, so I never even used it when I was on a Sense ROM. In my book, if you want to know the difference between a Sense ROM and CM6.1, just take LauncherPro and hit "restart LP" in the settings. In CM6.1 it takes about a second for it to completely load up. On Sense ROMs it takes anywhere from 6-10 seconds for everything to completely load. This is just unacceptable to me.

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I think 4G is just a total battery waster, so I never even used it when I was on a Sense ROM. In my book, if you want to know the difference between a Sense ROM and CM6.1, just take LauncherPro and hit "restart LP" in the settings. In CM6.1 it takes about a second for it to completely load up. On Sense ROMs it takes anywhere from 6-10 seconds for everything to completely load. This is just unacceptable to me.
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Just did it, took a little under 2 seconds.
Not to mention sitting here at my desk at work, using my phone as wifi so the IT guys can't see what Roms/kernals I download, I'm putting out 4g wifi rather then crappy Sprint 1mb/s 3g wifi.
Install said sense rom, remove sense, done.

Pao23 said:
Just did it, took a little under 2 seconds.
Not to mention sitting here at my desk at work, using my phone as wifi so the IT guys can't see what Roms/kernals I download, I'm putting out 4g wifi rather then crappy Sprint 1mb/s 3g wifi.
Install said sense rom, remove sense, done.
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What's your setup? I've got 4 5x5 homescreens packed with icons and another full of scrollable widgets. Even OCed it took forever.

TheBiles said:
What's your setup? I've got 4 5x5 homescreens packed with icons and another full of scrollable widgets. Even OCed it took forever.
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I just have the one row of icons on each page plus the littles like Bwidgets, search, control bar. I've never loaded my screens up because I don't like the look, but I'll put a bunch on there and see how it does and get back to ya.
What all widgets just so I know and can try to imitate? I run 5x5 too.

Pao23 said:
I just have the one row of icons on each page plus the littles like Bwidgets, search, control bar. I've never loaded my screens up because I don't like the look, but I'll put a bunch on there and see how it does and get back to ya.
What all widgets just so I know and can try to imitate? I run 5x5 too.
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Pure Messenger (50 message max), Pure Calendar (6 month view), Palmary Weather Pro Quarter, TerraClock Clock (S), and Extended Controls (1x9 switches).
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TheBiles said:
Pure Messenger (50 message max), Pure Calendar (6 month view), Palmary Weather Pro Quarter, TerraClock Clock (S), and Extended Controls (1x9 switches).
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Nevermind, you pay for too much stuff.
As a question though, I've never found myself restarting my LP before now, why do you do it often enough to actually influence your Rom choice?

Pao23 said:
Nevermind, you pay for too much stuff.
As a question though, I've never found myself restarting my LP before now, why do you do it often enough to actually influence your Rom choice?
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It does it on its own because I use so many awesome memory-hogging widgets. It's just like 2 or 3 times a day while I'm using another app or something.
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Sense Alternatives

I don't know if ICS or JB with Sense will ever come to the DHD. But the reason I have never stuck with another ROM other than Android Revolution HD is because I end up missing Sense.
When people do change to a non-Sense ROM (haha, nonsense), what are you using for:
Friendstream alternative. With FS, I get both my twitter and FB feeds in one convenient widget. And I like how when a tweet has a link, if I click on the tweet, I can read the tweet and link all within FS. I don't get that with Android Pro Widget or Launcher Pro widget.
Calendar. The HTC calendar is so clean looking. I like the monthly view on a whole screen.
SMS. I know there are alternatives but many look so cartoony, not the clean interface of the HTC version.
But probably Friendstream is the big one. What are people doing?
Thanks.

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I don't know if ICS or JB with Sense will ever come to the DHD. But the reason I have never stuck with another ROM other than Android Revolution HD is because I end up missing Sense.
When people do change to a non-Sense ROM (haha, nonsense), what are you using for:
Friendstream alternative. With FS, I get both my twitter and FB feeds in one convenient widget. And I like how when a tweet has a link, if I click on the tweet, I can read the tweet and link all within FS. I don't get that with Android Pro Widget or Launcher Pro widget.
Calendar. The HTC calendar is so clean looking. I like the monthly view on a whole screen.
SMS. I know there are alternatives but many look so cartoony, not the clean interface of the HTC version.
But probably Friendstream is the big one. What are people doing?
Thanks.
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DHD will be getting official ICS before the end of August
Good to see you're ditching Sense (less eyecandy: more RAM free & better performance), not sure if we have something like FS, maybe rip it from a sense ROM and install it?
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How to get a Friendstream apk? Would that install on any rooted phone?
Also, I forgot to mention a key app. Mail. The mail interface on Sense is nice and clean. On some of these other apps, like K-9, it's not as nice looking. Also, I need features like auto-BCC all emails. And what I like about Sense Mail is I have two mail accounts, one Yahoo, one POP, and both homescreen icons actually tell me how many new mails there are. What's the mail app everyone is using when they switch away from Sense?

GuyInTheCorner said:
DHD will be getting official ICS before the end of August
Good to see you're ditching Sense (less eyecandy: more RAM free & better performance), not sure if we have something like FS, maybe rip it from a sense ROM and install it?
Sent from my Desire HD using Swype beta for Android!
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You can't. FS requires a Sense framework to run at all. If it were that easy, someone would've done it already.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
You can't. FS requires a Sense framework to run at all. If it were that easy, someone would've done it already.
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Oh yeah, forgot that you need the framework *Facepalm*
Maybe (seriously doubt I'd ever happpen though, don't think its even possible) CM7 with Sense framework?
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GuyInTheCorner said:
Oh yeah, forgot that you need the framework *Facepalm*
Maybe (seriously doubt I'd ever happpen though, don't think its even possible) CM7 with Sense framework?
Sent from my Desire HD using Swype beta for Android!
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Never happening
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asif9t9 said:
I don't know if ICS or JB with Sense will ever come to the DHD. But the reason I have never stuck with another ROM other than Android Revolution HD is because I end up missing Sense.
When people do change to a non-Sense ROM (haha, nonsense), what are you using for:
Friendstream alternative. With FS, I get both my twitter and FB feeds in one convenient widget. And I like how when a tweet has a link, if I click on the tweet, I can read the tweet and link all within FS. I don't get that with Android Pro Widget or Launcher Pro widget.
Calendar. The HTC calendar is so clean looking. I like the monthly view on a whole screen.
SMS. I know there are alternatives but many look so cartoony, not the clean interface of the HTC version.
But probably Friendstream is the big one. What are people doing?
Thanks.
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I know what you mean about Sense. I have tried as well and always came back to Sense..
A replacement for Friendstream.. Here are a couple:
- Seesmic (Facebook and Twitter)
- Multipost ( but I think Facebook doesn't work)
- HootSuite
- Tweetdeck

GuyInTheCorner said:
Oh yeah, forgot that you need the framework *Facepalm*
Maybe (seriously doubt I'd ever happpen though, don't think its even possible) CM7 with Sense framework?
Sent from my Desire HD using Swype beta for Android!
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CM7 with Sense framework would just be a desensed rom.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app

asif9t9 said:
How to get a Friendstream apk? Would that install on any rooted phone?
Also, I forgot to mention a key app. Mail. The mail interface on Sense is nice and clean. On some of these other apps, like K-9, it's not as nice looking. Also, I need features like auto-BCC all emails. And what I like about Sense Mail is I have two mail accounts, one Yahoo, one POP, and both homescreen icons actually tell me how many new mails there are. What's the mail app everyone is using when they switch away from Sense?
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For mail use: InoMail
Very clean, iOS looking style, and very fast etc, great mail
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Yup - FS is hard to do without. However... check out APW widgets. The pro version has a friendstream widget which is a perfect replacement. The non-pro you have to have separate twitter and facebook. The calendar widget is also the best sense replacement I have found.
I'd stick with sense, but have a DZ so sense eats up too much RAM.

What I miss most in non-Sense roms is actually the camera. I tried and bought several other camera apps (360 camera, Zoom FX), but none seem as fast or polished as the Sense camera app. Especially with regard to focussing. It autofocusses on faces or otherwise just in the center, but you can always overrule it with tap-to-focus. I haven't found this in any other camera (yet?)
perhaps its just that I have become accustomed to that camera app.
for me, that is the only app that keeps dragging me back to sense roms.

madcow_mda said:
What I miss most in non-Sense roms is actually the camera. I tried and bought several other camera apps (360 camera, Zoom FX), but none seem as fast or polished as the Sense camera app. Especially with regard to focussing. It autofocusses on faces or otherwise just in the center, but you can always overrule it with tap-to-focus. I haven't found this in any other camera (yet?)
perhaps its just that I have become accustomed to that camera app.
for me, that is the only app that keeps dragging me back to sense roms.
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Try using the MIUI camera app
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Never ever Sense
everything else is better than sense.
but the best is an stock android so like google thought it should be.

I like some things about sense and have had my days where I missed it a little. But IMO after I used jelly bean its pure Google for me from now on. Thanks for the alternatives!
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is there an alternative gui to sence ?

Try Android Pro Widgets. Works for me like a charm....
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If their were a sense contender I would have left HTC long time ago ,so no there is no sense alternative,all other launchers are the same ,boring.sense is unique

atrako1973 said:
If their were a sense contender I would have left HTC long time ago ,so no there is no sense alternative,all other launchers are the same ,boring.sense is unique
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*Sigh* yes it is unique.... at least.
Did i miss it the last 18 months? .... This gonna be a hard decissi..... Nope!
Miui has nice style and good cam, too and runs like a kitten on crack :cyclops:
Even though,in my opinion, Miui is no competition to latest ics/jellybean vanilla feeling.

I like Sense for Calendar, Mail, and (mosttly) intuitive dialler. Maybe except mail, no replacements. Therefore, Sense ROMs.

Every time I try switching I keep coming back. The simple Email icons for my two email addresses, it shows the number of NEW messages. I tried Kaiten Mail and the ugly mail icon (looks like a fire hydrant), shows UNREAD messages. The problem with Unread messages is that for my POP email address, I read on my computer, or my phone. So my POP email on my phone is basically all Unread. So the icon shows me 99 Unread all the time. Useless. I just want to see NEW messages, and that's what my simple Sense 3.5 does. Sense is just better.
For Friendstream, if I click a tweet with a link to an article, the article opens up in Friendstream. With other apps like Android Pro Widgets, you have to click the link to the article and open up your browser. Grrrrrr.

Stock SMS vs Google Messenger?

I have to admit I don't understand why Moto (or any OEM for that matter) give us a stock SMS app when it seems to be inferior to Google's Messenger app. Are there any advantages to using it? Especially since you can't disable it, we're all kind of stuck with it even if we don't use it.

it's a stock android messaging app. just download google messenger and make it as default app then.

pijes said:
it's a stock android messaging app. just download google messenger and make it as default app then.
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Oh I know. I'm just wondering why they put their own messaging app if Google already makes a better one. I'm wondering if there's a reason for that,

Prosis said:
Oh I know. I'm just wondering why they put their own messaging app if Google already makes a better one. I'm wondering if there's a reason for that,
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"better" is subjective. I consider them both inferior to Textra, but not everyone shares that opinion of course.

scottdanpor said:
"better" is subjective. I consider them both inferior to Textra, but not everyone shares that opinion of course.
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Oh yeah of course. But I'm comparing features from stock to Google's Messenger (quick replies and such). I'm just wondering if there's any advantage to using the stock app. I'm thinking it's a little useless, as a company, to build your own when the AOSP version is great and Google's Messenger too.