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Please i mean PLEASE stop spamming the forums!

Take this how ever you want, but i think it's time to start using the search and stop spamming the same questions over and over again.
For example, look at the threads of all the leaked firmwares, they are full of crap. Same questions asked in every page over and over again in every firmware leak.
Pathetic.
Other example would be about flashing the firmware, c'mon SON, read the sticky posts already. No you didn't brick your phone, stop panicking.
Sorry to fill the forums with this rant, but JESUS, PLEASE.

Can only agree with you. Nothing else.

I agree completely. Getting tired of the "How do I flash this?" question. I mean for f**k sake. If you even consider flashing a device, then read the excellent sticky's made. They explain every single thing in detail.

Hear hear! The more I see this crap the more I think of the movie "Idiocracy" and think this **** might be happening now.

this thread is spam.... just saying. The people that cause the problems probably won't find this thread just like they cannot find the other ones.

I miss you MooseFist.
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I agree my man...

Is normal, too many here are getting overly excited about the test firmwares.

Agreed, why can't people do some research for themselves?

clutter. can we get this deleted?

this topic should have been in the General subforum, along with all those other things mentioned above.
but yes, it's true, new people joining XDA forums are not using the search.
i don't have MOD power, else i'll help merging all the same related topics peoples keeps making over and over again.

This needs to be here.

Sure This need to be here.
Most Important Thread i ever seen in SGS forums
I dont know what mods r doing here in this forum. They just let people to fight each other instead of call it quit.
Worst moderators i ever seen in any forums
Shame

I think the search function should be improved.

2nd post OP rule & remove 30 second search limitation please
buddy01 said:
Take this how ever you want, but i think it's time to start using the search and stop spamming the same questions over and over again.
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I do not understand a post like this.
Firstly, anyone who is too lazy/thick/confused/unlucky to not find the info they need before posting is CERTAINLY NOT going to be reading this thread, so all it does is spread your anger on the forum, which is not helpful or pleasant.
Secondly, before anyone can complain about people who do not search, XDA must remove the 30 seconds per search limitation. I have often not found something I want after two or three searches, get tired of waiting for another 30 seconds and then post a question. Im sure this happens to a LOT of the people you are flaming.
Thirdly, I really dont like this culture of arrogant snobbery that a some experienced users/cooks show on xda, its a lot like high school bullying, where a group of people "in the know" put down those lazy/thick/confused/unlucky ones who are not intentionally TRYING to be annoying, they are just lazy/thick/confused/unlucky... so collectively being pissed with them is really for your gratification, not for the good of xda.
Lastly, I'd like xda to also make an OP's rule that the second or third post in a thread is a summary of all the gotchas, tips, warnings, findings... all the stuff that you would never see if you were faced with a 2000 page thread!
tx
Mark.

This in itself is a useless thread, and i feel dirty posting here. However, since the people you are complaining about do not read, then they obviously aren't going to read this are they. A post like this is troll bait tbh.
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Some people feel if they haven't posted a reply every 2-3 minutes, they haven't really browsed a forum. What the OP says is right.

It is not the goal of a forum to be a place where we can post questions ?
I understand that sometimes it's very annoying to see the same question 10 times again and again, but come on.... We were all newbies one day, with a question that maybe we searched before, and didn't find anything revelant/working, don't you think ?
Furthermore, it's the same problem on every (big?) forum you'll browse. Will you post such thing everywhere ?
I can agree about people posting in wrong section (ie, all in Dev forums to be more seen). Exemple : Your post. Nothing to do in dev.
So before asking people to follow rules, start by following it yourself...
Useless thread.

fredphoesh said:
Thirdly, I really dont like this culture of arrogant snobbery that a some experienced users/cooks show on xda
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@OP For me personally, reading a question multiple times is actually far less agitating than reading your aggressive unnecessary and above all self-righteous tantrum.
If this issue really bothers you that much that it leaves you feeling sad, aggressive and hateful of anybody that dares to ask for help, I suggest you seek professional psychiatric help.
EDIT: As mentioned earlier you posted this thread in the wrong section. Hahahahahaha ROFL. Geez man, who peed in your cheerios?!

This thread itself is in fact worse than these annoying annoying questions msung complained about. If a thread really bothers you just report it and be on your way.
I agree that removing the 30 second search delay would help. 10 seconds is more reasonable.
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[Q] moderator help needed

Hey, I'm not happy the way I'm being treated, after I posted something that some people didn't like, but why do I have to be treated like that and insulted and what is worse, this smart guy asks me to leave the forum? What is this? I was only being curious, this was my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16016232#post16016232
I hope real xda admins can do something about this. I didn't mean to be stupid or anything and I don't think I should be banned!!!

The fact that you brought up ios in a x10 is gonna tick people off. You really shouldnt have expected any other reaction. Look, if you like the looks of ios...then go download trips miui rom. Its pretty close. Dont know if you already tried it or not...but its worth a shot. Even cobrato has a miui rom to try. But with all the gingerbread news flying around these forums today then something ios related pops up.....dont expect people to take that very nicely.
Sorry
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you posted it in the wrong section of the forum and it does seem like a bit of a joke when we have been getting comments about 2.3.3
im sure the people in the thread who commented on it didnt mean what they said in a bad way, i posted a comment in a thread a couple of days ago and got slighty flamed for it, but hey you know what that is life and the internet.
just remember that you posted your thread in the wrong section, which is what peevs everyone this forum (even me).

I see where the op is coming from, The responses were a bit too harsh

nanodroid said:
Hey, I'm not happy the way I'm being treated, after I posted something that some people didn't like, but why do I have to be treated like that and insulted and what is worse, this smart guy asks me to leave the forum? What is this? I was only being curious, this was my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16016232#post16016232
I hope real xda admins can do something about this. I didn't mean to be stupid or anything and I don't think I should be banned!!!
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First, you are not going to banned for the thread you posted. It's obvious that your question was offtopic and imposible I think, but I don't wan't to get into that.
Second, you don't post this publicly since it's better that you PM a moderator about this. These kind of threads clutter the forums. I already received your PM.
On that note, thread closed.

new to android world , want to root :)

ok im new to all this android thing so bare with me
my first android phone is the SGS2 its stock 2.3.5 unlocked and i want it rooted i readed and watched videos about how to do it and i think im rdy to do it i just need help with the kernel files so i dont make a mistake by chosing the wrong ones
can some put plz the rooted kernel and the original kernel so i can remove the triangle after
preferable as atachmed both ones ty
here about phone pic
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/sc20111018172824.png

have a read of this

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have a read of this
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im lucky you incrased your post count by 1 more usless post
if you dont want to help then dont post ffs

CF-Root, KI8 kernel, KI8 stock kernel.

Shomi87 said:
im lucky you incrased your post count by 1 more usless post
if you dont want to help then dont post ffs
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Lol, like post counts matter
If you don't want to educate yourself first and read up, then...
You know the rest

oinkylicious said:
CF-Root, KI8 kernel, KI8 stock kernel.
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tnx for help and not acting like an wiseazz like the other dude

But honestly, Darkside had a point but maybe not presented in the best way. I guess some people are tired of answering the same questions when there are clear posts/threads about it that are also easy to find.
I'm a beginner as well but I tend to look for a solution myself rather than asking. But we are all different I guess.

Such is society. The world is full of people who would prefer to have information hand fed to them. No wonder many people cannot infer from information.

Bergaliden said:
But honestly, Darkside had a point but maybe not presented in the best way. I guess some people are tired of answering the same questions when there are clear posts/threads about it that are also easy to find.
I'm a beginner as well but I tend to look for a solution myself rather than asking. But we are all different I guess.
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Your post explains EXACTLY where im coming from, thank you.
And the part about searching yourself is music to my ears.
yes, maybe i went about it the wrong way, i will admit that...BUT:
I know this isnt my forum, i have no say in anything on here at all...but its depressing having to read the same thing over and over and over - and all these threads do is push the good informative threads off the first couple of pages and makes it very hard to garner good honest information posted by people making a genuine effort to improve things for our phone.
Check the Q&A & General section, count how many ICS threads there are already...all talking about the same thing. Its like all of a sudden theres an influx of new members (probably young guys/girls) who are in a competition to feel part of something, and satisfy this need by posting threads on massive forums like this one without using the search function...that function is there for a reason, its mentioned in the rules and its just common sense to check if what you are about to post is already available...isnt it?
Maybe im completely wrong, maybe im looking at it the wrong way, but i now struggle to find anything of value on this forum because im wading through...well, you get my point....
/end rant
Shomi87 said:
tnx for help and not acting like an wiseazz like the other dude
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lol...feel superior now?

Darkside Agent said:
Your post explains EXACTLY where im coming from, thank you.
And the part about searching yourself is music to my ears.
yes, maybe i went about it the wrong way, i will admit that...BUT:
I know this isnt my forum, i have no say in anything on here at all...but its depressing having to read the same thing over and over and over - and all these threads do is push the good informative threads off the first couple of pages and makes it very hard to garner good honest information posted by people making a genuine effort to improve things for our phone.
Check the Q&A & General section, count how many ICS threads there are already...all talking about the same thing. Its like all of a sudden theres an influx of new members (probably young guys/girls) who are in a competition to feel part of something, and satisfy this need by posting threads on massive forums like this one without using the search function...that function is there for a reason, its mentioned in the rules and its just common sense to check if what you are about to post is already available...isnt it?
Maybe im completely wrong, maybe im looking at it the wrong way, but i now struggle to find anything of value on this forum because im wading through...well, you get my point....
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lol...feel superior now?
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I am not that clever, but I do know that Search & Read are the most valuable things to use this site. And if I am able to do it, then most can do as well.
I can understand if the Rooting and Flashing of ROMs was explained in a very technical way, but the posters have taken time to do step-by-step instructions. Okay sometimes for noobies it can still be confusing. I guarantee that if they read through that thread then they will have found someone already who asked that question for clarification (which will have been answered).
I am indebted to some very clever folk have developed programs or modified ROMs so that we can root and flash. And also to those who took the time to make the guides for us.
I only wish I knew how to go about learning about developing - it does seem to be a very steep learning curve.

Darkside Agent said:
Your post explains EXACTLY where im coming from, thank you.
And the part about searching yourself is music to my ears.
yes, maybe i went about it the wrong way, i will admit that...BUT:
I know this isnt my forum, i have no say in anything on here at all...but its depressing having to read the same thing over and over and over - and all these threads do is push the good informative threads off the first couple of pages and makes it very hard to garner good honest information posted by people making a genuine effort to improve things for our phone.
Check the Q&A & General section, count how many ICS threads there are already...all talking about the same thing. Its like all of a sudden theres an influx of new members (probably young guys/girls) who are in a competition to feel part of something, and satisfy this need by posting threads on massive forums like this one without using the search function...that function is there for a reason, its mentioned in the rules and its just common sense to check if what you are about to post is already available...isnt it?
Maybe im completely wrong, maybe im looking at it the wrong way, but i now struggle to find anything of value on this forum because im wading through...well, you get my point....
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lol...feel superior now?
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if its depresing for you to read it why you read it then and why post ?
just skip the thread then
and yes i feel ty

Shomi87 said:
if its depresing for you to read it why you read it then and why post ?
just skip the thread then
and yes i feel ty
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How is he supposed to know what you have posted without reading it. You may have tried searching & reading but there was a problem with actually doing the rooting.
There are a lot of folks on here that English is not their first language, so may need help with following the instructions.
If you have learned to use the best thing on this site - the Search - then his reply was worth it.

Shomi87 said:
im lucky you incrased your post count by 1 more usless post
if you dont want to help then dont post ffs
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No you're the useless one who can't read. It's in the bloody stickies FFS.
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olyloh6696 said:
No you're the useless one who can't read. It's in the bloody stickies FFS.
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what ever i asked about the files to be sure i didnt ask for whole root procedure now gtfo

Shomi87 said:
what ever i asked about the files to be sure i didnt ask for whole root procedure now gtfo
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Oooh. You got me there.
If you can't find the kernel in the development section you obviously must be too thick. USE THE SEATCH BUTTON.
Er, no I won't 'gtfo'
You get out with your pointless posts.
And with your attitude, no one is going to help you out.
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saying to some1 use the search button is not helping
you think idk to use the search buton ? i used it i found the files i just wanted to be sure if those r the right ones
now srsly stop posting **** i dont need your "use search button" replays

Shomi87 said:
saying to some1 use the search button is not helping
you think idk to use the search buton ? i used it i found the files i just wanted to be sure if those r the right ones
now srsly stop posting **** i dont need your "use search button" replays
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Clearly you didn't use the search button, or you'd have found the answer quickly. Or if you bothered to check the stickies for the kernels, or read through the thread.
If the files have already been posted by the developer and confirmed working, why are you asking people if its 'safe'?
And yes, asking people to use the search button is useful, if you even bothered to read the XDA rules.
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blow me ?
10characters dooh

Shomi87 said:
saying to some1 use the search button is not helping
you think idk to use the search buton ? i used it i found the files i just wanted to be sure if those r the right ones
now srsly stop posting **** i dont need your "use search button" replays
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I have to agree with Olyloh6696 on this one. The advice given was quite acceptable. Everyday new threads are started for no reason when the info is already available. Some people just want to be spoon fed simple information. Maybe they are in a rush to solve their problem and decide why spend hours looking when I can just start a new thread and ask. Only problem is; hours of other peoples time is waisted looking at threads like this one.

Shomi87 said:
blow me ?
10characters dooh
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You have a very cocky attitude. No one will want to help you in the future.
'Blow me' possibly the worst insult I have ever heard.
And you've used it twice before you edited your other post.
Ha.
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Devs only, lol

Im no dev, so, for what ive seen, I should not be able to post on devs forums even if im replying to someone's question. So instead of getting bullied out of the forums, im gonna suggest to mods to ban anyone like me who's just a senior member from the dev forum to avoid all those "move your stupid question to the q&a thread recently created mumbo jumbo whatever ever and change your post with moved to wherever".
Most people here are not devs. I dont mean to disrespect any dev or anyone who share their work, but, I think this kind of changes just made things difficult to devs and end users alike having to look to two threads to find an answer or to answer. Mostly because google brings better search results about xda than the xda search option.
Maybe I get a post regarding this one about moving it to hell.
A lot of really plain sarcasm mixed with plain truth.
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FCORivers said:
Maybe I get a post regarding this one about moving it to hell.
A lot of really plain sarcasm mixed with plain truth.
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lol, you may hear it but definitely not from me
q&a threads are new for me too (been on xda a few years ago, lurking before registering. and a lot has changed since then.
it's just that dev threads are getting a lot of same questions asked again and again, with some people responding in the beginning and later bullying. it's normal. just reading the rom thread and going to q&a thread to post a question is not difficult. meanwhile dev thread should be for posting bugs and solutions and updates. it makes the whole thread a lot more easy to follow

FCORivers said:
Im no dev, so, for what ive seen, I should not be able to post on devs forums even if im replying to someone's question. So instead of getting bullied out of the forums, im gonna suggest to mods to ban anyone like me who's just a senior member from the dev forum to avoid all those "move your stupid question to the q&a thread recently created mumbo jumbo whatever ever and change your post with moved to wherever".
Most people here are not devs. I dont mean to disrespect any dev or anyone who share their work, but, I think this kind of changes just made things difficult to devs and end users alike having to look to two threads to find an answer or to answer. Mostly because google brings better search results about xda than the xda search option.
Maybe I get a post regarding this one about moving it to hell.
A lot of really plain sarcasm mixed with plain truth.
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Which devs forums are you talking about? As far as I know, you can post there as long as it is helpful, no matter what it is or what rank you are.
As gilbert said, it's just to keep away the n00bs who can't bother to read.
Edit: @Kameirus Exactly.

Marvlesz said:
As gilbert said, it's just to keep away the n00bs who can't bother to read.
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which is 89 percent of users

Dont get me wrong, I understand but still think that for this rules to work we need an effective way to search xda. Ive been ignored before when asking something which is already answered, but all this "move your post to somewhere else" and "then editing your post on said thread and moving it to another" is annoying and just add more post without being useful to anyone. If the question was answered then ignore like before.
I know my comments wont make any difference. That doesn't mean I wont be reading and posting any more, lol.
On other topic, why would you want to keep away the noobs? Weren't we all noobs at some point? Or everyone was a recognized developer and android/linux experts when first registered on xda? I still dont know jack about anything. I know how to read and write.
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Marvlesz said:
Which devs forums are you talking about? As far as I know, you can post there as long as it is helpful, no matter what it is or what rank you are.
As gilbert said, it's just to keep away the n00bs who can't bother to read.
Edit: @Kameirus Exactly.
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Well, I got another of the post mentioned before because I shared my setup on a specific rom so another user could find the problem on his install. At least I thought I was helping, btw, the post has been there for about 3 weeks before I got the "you are ot cause this is not dev related".
And im talking about this forums, I own an HD2, an O1, and SGS2, all from T-Mobile. The hd2 is the one I love flashing the most.
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@FCORivers
not everyone are noobs.
people who search before posting aren't noobs. people who read before posting aren't noobs
people who ask "hoe brinj hd2 android phnoe in start bot" and similar stuff are noobs. people who don't even bother searching are noobs. people know how to read and write, but those who don't bother doing them correctly are noobs.
people who come to new roms' threads and post bugs posted in op and in first few pages are noobs. and unfortunately those end up on xda via google or youtube.
posting a question is not wrong, but expecting the development thread to be a user manual and consumer support is just wrong. this is one of the reasons q&a threads exist.
and why keep the noobs away? lets just remove the 10 post rule, let noobs fill development threads with "how instal zs ram" and "hoe flash kernil" and "phone bricked" and "my mother punished me for phone not turn on any more". what's easier??
I'm very sure that posting a question in a dev thread and moving it to q&a and leaving a note that it's been moved isn't something hard.
I'm not trying to be lame by any way.
Gilbert

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Dont get me wrong, I understand but still think that for this rules to work we need an effective way to search xda. Ive been ignored before when asking something which is already answered, but all this "move your post to somewhere else" and "then editing your post on said thread and moving it to another" is annoying and just add more post without being useful to anyone. If the question was answered then ignore like before.
I know my comments wont make any difference. That doesn't mean I wont be reading and posting any more, lol.
On other topic, why would you want to keep away the noobs? Weren't we all noobs at some point? Or everyone was a recognized developer and android/linux experts when first registered on xda? I still dont know jack about anything. I know how to read and write.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2439

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2439
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exactly. what i said was inspired by this and another post(i forgot where from)

I still think you havent understood me.
I have been ignored when asking stupid qs before, I dont think q&a threads are users guides. If the post is about something already asked, ignore it, if it is stated in op ignore it. Its not about that. Its about polluting a thread asking people to move their posts. Do you think my post is polluting cause is not dev related? What about two post instead which arent dev related? I never access this site via pc or laptop and never ever on my phones web browser which makes moving posts a little bit more complicated than over pc. Why dont get a pm from the same mod to ask you to do that and kindly ask devs to add q&a link in op? Most devs have done that already. So if a noob still fails to follow the rules then a kind pm reminding him/her the rules. But a "deleted post" or "moved post" is still not dev related, there will be a post non the less. Mod posted about new q&a threads, I know.
I dont expect anyone to agree and probably language has something to do with me not being able to make a point here as English is not my native language. Its just that I feel like a little kid getting reprimanded cause most of the time ( im not perfect) I thoroughly searched before posting and still have missed some answers.
As I mentioned before, I had a post like that for sharing my setup. My post was there for about 3 weeks before I got reprimanded. So I see it like the mod wants his new authority to be noticed.
I wont post anymore on dev threads if I dont find my answer on the q&a thread with out detailed info and logcat, got it, but going back 3 weeks on an unattended, almost forgotten rom thread (sorry dev, not meaning anything bad about the rom, I liked it for a while) is what I was complaining for.
Yes im an old crybaby, lol.
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Marvlesz said:
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Thanks for the read.
But I dont care if that post has 2 million thanks and states what is right, is not really what ive seen in this forums. You dont have to be my friend to be friendly, you dont have to be rude either. Ignoring works miracles, lol.
Havent got a post like that in any other device forum here on xda.
Nah, ignore this one too.
Edit: forget every little thing. Just my bad attitude mixed with a stupid misunderstanding.
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Please, kind Mod, delete this topic/thread.
Thanks.
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FCORivers said:
Please, kind Mod, delete this topic/thread.
Thanks.
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Use the small triangle next to the OP to report the thread instead of bringing it up

First day ATT SG4 Questions

I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it

VinnyCh4se said:
I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it
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Start with these three threads, but don't limit yourself to them. You will find many useful links within those threads to help you as well. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always

TheAxman said:
WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always
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I bet 90% (or more) of all "Help me!" type posts can be resolved with those few threads. Maybe another 5% need to be directed to another thread or two, and only the last 5% or so actually require more information than what has already been posted. If people would follow the XDA rules, search, and read what is easily available, most of them wouldn't have problems in the first place...much less need to make posts about them time after time. This forum has evolved nicely and people have taken their time to put together guides, solve problems, and create helpful posts. It is a slap in the face of those people when others don't take the time to read the information they made available. I see it all of the time, people saying, "but this is Q&A, I should be allowed to ask questions yadayadayada...). For some reason, to them, Q&A means I don't need to search, read, or learn, I can just ask a question that has been asked 20 times already (usually still on the first page) and people must flock to me with easy answers on silver platters! Of course, that is assuming they even put the question in the Q&A forum to start with. For some reason, they think they are above the rules or they are so special the rules don't apply to them. Q&A (according to XDA) exists to help AFTER someone has already searched and read on their own...not as a substitute for doing so. And saying, "but I searched", when it is obvious that no searching or very little searching was done only makes them a liar as well.
At most, people should only need to be directed to this information (existing threads). If they choose to ignore this help or if they think they are too important to take the time needed to read and learn...too bad. Fortunately, most accept the help and take advantage of the information, others, well I guess they just need to sit around, all butt-hurt, with their bricks. :laugh:
And to those that get butt-hurt...No, I'm not a Mod and I'm not affiliated with XDA, I just follow the rules that I agreed to when I signed up...just like everyone else is supposed to. DO you?
...and this isn't necessarily directed at the OP, I just happened to say it in this thread.

This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.

alphadog00 said:
This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.
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Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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+1 to all
A lot of members like Axman have invested many hours in writing great "noob" threads. Very well done and easy to understand. What I never get is why folks invest a lot of money in this phone, and others, and don't want to spend time educating themselves on how to root it and flash roms.

Thermalwolf said:
Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.

TheAxman said:
Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.
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Life, and AOKP has been keeping me quite content but yea long time no see, glad to see familiar faces
Decided I should drop by more to help with these QA threads hahaha
To the OP now, don't think we hate you or anything, it's just you put like NO EFFORT into researching. The QA forum is here to help issues beyond just getting started.
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I started those guides thinking that everyone would be talking about flashing roms, whats cool, whats not, and so on, made them so anyone new could even understand, I must have forgotten that people just want to get a phone and start rooting and such, without reading because his buddy said it was cool to root and flash roms, even told him, here go to this site and get roms, and flash them. Then the process starts, a continuous posts of I can't , and it won't questions.
What gets me, you know they are not searching, because the post right above theirs has their problem right in the thread title. Saw one of those yesterday somewhere.
Ka dumb a$s, duh!
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Btw .. OP, I am going to apologize for semi hi-jacking your thread. It was wrong. Sorry sir. Seriously.

I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--

rugmankc said:
I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--
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This! Also I got very intimidated by all the people screaming at me. I did a bunch of research before I asked the question and was still confused hence the question I'm not an xda idiot but the s4 was already very big in modding when I joined whereas the infuse and vivid had just started to get cwm and root when I got them so I grew with the romers I apologize for looking so nooby since reading the first post I now have a auto Loki cwm and root access and am running the Google edition ROM thank you all for the suggestions and links
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Glad you got it--
Don't feel bad sometimes we need to vent--nothing personal
I came here in early May from the One S and close to 3.5 years of flashing HTC devices with the advantage of unlocked bootloaders thru fastboot. But, still felt like a noob here--still do--
Odin/Kies/Loki were all new. Esp loki. I have spent hundreds of hours reading probably a couple thousand posts. Still learning. It does take a lot of effort to figure this out for some of us--like me.
But, a good investment as one needs to not only know how but why--to not lose a pricey phone--
Welcome to the S4--Unbelievable Phone--:good: