FYI...I don't know if this question (more like debate) was definitively answered...but here it is directly from the gorilla's mouth...
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
Um ya... like before epic was even released
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I demonstrated Gorilla Glass to a coworker of mine last week, when I whipped out my keys, attempted to scratch and jab the hell out of my screen while he winced and told me to stop because it was painful to watch.
Side note: I live just an hour or so from Corning, and I've been to the glass museum there. Wouldn't think a museum about glass could be particularly interesting but it's actually worth seeing.
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I demonstrated Gorilla Glass to a coworker of mine last week, when I whipped out my keys, attempted to scratch and jab the hell out of my screen while he winced and told me to stop because it was painful to watch.
Side note: I live just an hour or so from Corning, and I've been to the glass museum there. Wouldn't think a museum about glass could be particularly interesting but it's actually worth seeing.
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O don't care what glass I have I would not be trying to scratch.my.phone with keys.
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I try to scratch my phone every hour.
I have some scratches on my phone already lol
I have scratches too. I have always used screen protectors, love this phone without them, and am still very careful.
However, one day in my purse, got about 3
Do you think this means they would cover the screen under warranty? Definitely did not abuse, so . . .
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I have scratches too. I have always used screen protectors, love this phone without them, and am still very careful.
However, one day in my purse, got about 3
Do you think this means they would cover the screen under warranty? Definitely did not abuse, so . . .
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most likely not a warranty issue. After all, it's not the phone's fault the scratches appeared
/sarcasm
I had someone come into the service dept. once with their nice new honda on the back of a tow truck wanting honda to pay for a new engine. They drove their car into a really deep puddle and ingested some water and siezed it up. They were screaming 'warranty' blah blah... the service manager said as politely as he could "it's not honda's fault your car went into a puddle".. I ran into the bathroom and laughed my ass off.
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O don't care what glass I have I would not be trying to scratch.my.phone with keys.
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Simple science, my friend. Steel, on the hardness scale, ranges between 4 and 5. Our Gorilla Glass is nearly a 7 (typical glass is closer to 6). Unless you go at it with hardened steel (like a high-quality kitchen knife) the glass won't be scratched.
People often wonder why their screens develop small scratches anyhow, and it's usually because of sand in their pockets. Sand tends to contain quartz, which is slightly harder than glass (even Gorilla Glass), and as such, can scratch it.
So while I'll take out my car key and scratch the hell out of my Epic, you wouldn't catch me putting sand on my screen in a million years.
Wikipedia has a pretty good chart of hardnesses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardness_scale
Also, Corning has some documents with plenty of graphs comparing it to standard glass here: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/literature
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Simple science, my friend. Steel, on the hardness scale, ranges between 4 and 5. Our Gorilla Glass is nearly a 7 (typical glass is closer to 6). Unless you go at it with hardened steel (like a high-quality kitchen knife) the glass won't be scratched.
People often wonder why their screens develop small scratches anyhow, and it's usually because of sand in their pockets. Sand tends to contain quartz, which is slightly harder than glass (even Gorilla Glass), and as such, can scratch it.
So while I'll take out my car key and scratch the hell out of my Epic, you wouldn't catch me putting sand on my screen in a million years.
Wikipedia has a pretty good chart of hardnesses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardness_scale
Also, Corning has some documents with plenty of graphs comparing it to standard glass here: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/literature
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It's still the best "shock effect" ever seeing the look on the faces of people that have iPhones for sure though HAHAHAHAHA...
"lemme try that with your iPhone ??".. heh..
Electrofreak said:
Simple science, my friend. Steel, on the hardness scale, ranges between 4 and 5. Our Gorilla Glass is nearly a 7 (typical glass is closer to 6). Unless you go at it with hardened steel (like a high-quality kitchen knife) the glass won't be scratched.
People often wonder why their screens develop small scratches anyhow, and it's usually because of sand in their pockets. Sand tends to contain quartz, which is slightly harder than glass (even Gorilla Glass), and as such, can scratch it.
So while I'll take out my car key and scratch the hell out of my Epic, you wouldn't catch me putting sand on my screen in a million years.
Wikipedia has a pretty good chart of hardnesses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardness_scale
Also, Corning has some documents with plenty of graphs comparing it to standard glass here: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/literature
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would be smarter to use quartz for a screen then lol that way no matter what it cant be scratched
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would be smarter to use quartz for a screen then lol that way no matter what it cant be scratched
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That should just skip to the end and make our screens out of diamonds
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i would pay for it
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That should just skip to the end and make our screens out of diamonds
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Augmented superdiamonds bringing the hardness to 10.1, that way no natural substance can scratch our screens! Hahah but nah I have a visibly annoying scratch on my screen and definitely haventbeen near any sand and I don't putmy phone with other things.
there's no point in me being able to resist a canon ball if I can easily get killed by a bullet lol
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Geez can you imagine how much a diamond cut screen would be? it would be interesting to see how it would look
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Geez can you imagine how much a diamond cut screen would be? it would be interesting to see how it would look
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They could just use normal gorilla glass with a 1 micron thick coating of diamond. But yea, would still be expensive as hell, not because of the cost of the diamond but due to the manufacturing process taking forever.
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They could just use normal gorilla glass with a 1 micron thick coating of diamond. But yea, would still be expensive as hell, not because of the cost of the diamond but due to the manufacturing process taking forever.
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Use a Nidoking. Its horns can break diamond. Like clockwork
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The problem with diamond is that it's very brittle. The hardness scale is typically inversely proportional to how brittle it is. I agree that diamond coated something would be virtually scratch proof, but I would think if you knocked it just right, it would shatter.
Going back to keys on the screen. I always laugh when I hear people doing this. I usually ask people how sharp they would have to make their fingernail to scratch glass. It's the same idea. People assume that because something is sharp, it will scratch anything.
Having said that, I would be careful about trying to scratch the screen with keys, not because the keys would scratch it, but there could be something sticking on the keys that could (not likely, but not unheard of).
I have a visible scratch that's about 1 cm long, and it annoys me. I think it was on the night stand, and I slid it off to hit the snooze for my alarm. Later that day, I noticed it, so I must have had some kind of grit on the night stand. Ugh.
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The problem with diamond is that it's very brittle. The hardness scale is typically inversely proportional to how brittle it is. I agree that diamond coated something would be virtually scratch proof, but I would think if you knocked it just right, it would shatter.
Going back to keys on the screen. I always laugh when I hear people doing this. I usually ask people how sharp they would have to make their fingernail to scratch glass. It's the same idea. People assume that because something is sharp, it will scratch anything.
Having said that, I would be careful about trying to scratch the screen with keys, not because the keys would scratch it, but there could be something sticking on the keys that could (not likely, but not unheard of).
I have a visible scratch that's about 1 cm long, and it annoys me. I think it was on the night stand, and I slid it off to hit the snooze for my alarm. Later that day, I noticed it, so I must have had some kind of grit on the night stand. Ugh.
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I thought diamonds were the hardest substance because of the way the molecules interlace? Wouldn't the density of the molecules make it less brittle too? I can understand if there was a lot of space from one to another, but not when its all packed together...
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I thought diamonds were the hardest substance because of the way the molecules interlace? Wouldn't the density of the molecules make it less brittle too? I can understand if there was a lot of space from one to another, but not when its all packed together...
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A diamond is a crystal, and the atoms are in a very rigid structure that has very strong bonds. Because the bonds are strong, it's difficult to separate them, so it is also very hard (i.e. something that has weaker bonds would not be able to break the strong bonds, so the atoms in steel would break apart when rubbed against a diamond and not be able to scratch the diamond). The problem is that these strong bonds make it so it is very inflexible, which in turn makes it very brittle. In this case, the density of a diamond doesn't have anything to do with it.
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Anyone know how scratch resistant the Epic's screen will be?
If its weak, I'd like to manually try and replace it with Gorilla Glass.
Manually replacing the glass sounds kind of risky!
You should realize that gorilla glass and products like it are much more brittle than standard glasses. While it can with stand scratches, it doesn't favor well in drops and impacts to it. Why not just use an invisible shield or other protector? Much cheaper and easier.
Trying to replace a screen that's made for the phone with a screen that's NOT made for the phone isnt gonna be easy or pretty.
when it comes to a drop/impact that would shatter or splinter the screen, it either will or won't. Having a case and protector on the screen helps. But if its from more than 2 feet, most likely the screen will shatter regardless of the type of glass.
My Hero has survived far more of its fair share of 5 foot falls onto asphalt with only minimal scuffing to the plastic case, there are no screen cracks, and no screen scratches either. If the Epic 4G is anything similar, it should be fine with both. Although I would like to note that, at least for me I would worry more about problems with the keyboard after the phone has been dropped, as was the case with my Touch Pro. Just my 1.9 cents.
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Anyone know how scratch resistant the Epic's screen will be?
If its weak, I'd like to manually try and replace it with Gorilla Glass.
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One of the benefits of super amoled is that the screen is attached to the plastic/glass cover. It eliminated the dust and glare problems but it would most likely be impossible to replace it.
USAF22 said:
My Hero has survived far more of its fair share of 5 foot falls onto asphalt with only minimal scuffing to the plastic case, there are no screen cracks, and no screen scratches either. If the Epic 4G is anything similar, it should be fine with both. Although I would like to note that, at least for me I would worry more about problems with the keyboard after the phone has been dropped, as was the case with my Touch Pro. Just my 1.9 cents.
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One of the great things about the HTC "chin" phones is that it's impossible to directly impact the screen on a flat surface like a floor or sidewalk without completely breaking the phone open. That's how it is on my G1, at least. Say what you will about the aesthetics, but I find that to be fantastic practical design.
When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
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When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
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I'd love to see this, if only for the entertainment value.
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When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
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It's gonna suck when it breaks infront a of a customer...
Or if people find out it's a dummy phone
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It's gonna suck when it breaks infront a of a customer...
Or if people find out it's a dummy phone
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Not gonna happen...they sell the display phone they drop to the customer ..lol jk....
Overall though I had plenty of LCD phones and I dropped them..threw them from room to room and never had any damage...I remember at one point I dropped my phone every day for like 6 months..but then again maybe I'm one of the lucky ppl :/
Take a look at the Galaxy S brutal tests and judge for yourself.
Warning: you might flinch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68&feature=related
Flinch indeed!!, I thought " The Cove" was bad.
What's with all the gorilla glass stuff lately? As previously said gorilla glass isn't suitable for the Epic 4G because of the Super Amoled display, on top of this Gorilla glass is very scratch proof but at the sametime it's not meant to be dropped.
Sebrina said:
What's with all the gorilla glass stuff lately? As previously said gorilla glass isn't suitable for the Epic 4G because of the Super Amoled display, on top of this Gorilla glass is very scratch proof but at the sametime it's not meant to be dropped.
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The next version of super amoled samsung promises is indestructible..so get your chainsaws ready
Glass
Yep its tuff glass
WTH would you bump a 7 month old thread?
My Epic fell out of my pocket screen first onto a rock when I was getting out of my car a few days ago and didn't have a scratch/crack or anything on it.
The silicon case, however, got chipped.
As long as he did, I wanna say I'm pissed at how easily my Epic screen scratched. Weak.
Does froyo make the glass faster?
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I heard that the Samsung Focus had corning gorilla glass and hearing this I decided a screen protector wouldn't be needed (gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant isn't it?). I'm the type of person who takes extra steps to protect his gadgets. I always hold my phone with a firm grip, I have a dedicated pocket for it (no keys or coins with it) and I never drop it. Recently I've noticed some scratches appearing on the front screen of my Focus. Most of them aren't very noticeable, but one in particular can be seen plain as day and is infuriating. Like I said, I don't have anything in my pockets, I've never dropped it and I want to know how these scratches appear on "scratch resistant" glass if nothing but my fingers and cloth are touching it.
If the Focus doesn't have the gorilla glass/gorilla glass isn't scratch resistant I will delete this thread in shame of my lack of knowledge
the zune HD has gorilla glass and I have a zune and a focus. I am reasonably sure the focus isnt gorilla glass, taps like plastic and scratches relatively easy. my zune has very little scratches after 8 months of abuse sharing pockets w/ keys; only one day with my focus in my pocket with my wallet i have scratches.
It does really seem like plastic. Or maybe really thin, versatile glass.
I asked Samsung via twitter on November 9th and they confirmed it
"the Focus does have Gorilla Glass. Thanks for reaching out to us, we're happy to help. ^Sab"
Just found this and it says the Samsung Focus does have gorilla glass.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Is it possible I got a bad unit? Or is it possible Samsung is just using the weakest gorilla glass?
EDIT: Dang, same time post
Samsung claims that the Focus has Gorilla Glass, so I guess you can just take their word for it. The Gorilla Glass might be underneath the plastic layer Samsung used. I think the Vibrant and European Galaxy S are the same way.
Here's a link to Samsung's official site Q&A about the Focus and if you scroll down you'll find that they confirmed it has Gorilla Glass. Click here. Also an official SamsungUSA rep on Twitter confirmed Gorilla Glass when he was asked. Click here.
Also, if you want to see a stress test of the Galaxy S' Gorilla Glass, check out this video (not in English but you get the gist of it). Click here.
I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.
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I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.
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Usually I get a case, but I haven't found anything to appealing yet (I like for my phone to look good). Also I try to keep it in the best condition so when I go to resell it I get maximum value
The screen feels identical withmy Captivate...
yes it is gorilla glass... ive put a few in already and can confirm.. plus i called samsung to be double sure...
huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer
Raptor550 said:
huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer
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Exactly. I want to know why that is.
glass scratches.. bottom line..
gorilla glass is just harder to scratch and is a tougher glass overall so it can be made thinner than other glass digitizers...
ErikWithNoC said:
Exactly. I want to know why that is.
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They probably have another layer over the Gorilla glass.
The Focus's screen really feels like plastic. It's just not as solid as, say, the iPhone 4 (which is said to use Gorilla glass for the front.) Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...
I do not have a case or a screen protector on my Focus and don't have a single scratch on the screen and only a few micro scuffs on the plastic battery cover. I am generally careful with my gadgets, but I have carried this phone with me every day since Nov 8th and both of my young children play with it on a regular basis, and still nothing. Thankfully I have not dropped it screen side down on any hard surfaces (knock on wood)!
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Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...
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It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.
I can tell you from personal experience that a Focus screen will not survive a 3 foot fall on its face to concrete. And it is very very much made of glass.
But it seems relatively scratch resistant : )
Have you guys seen the youtube video of a guy testing out the glass screen of the focus? He's literally stabbing the phone with a screwdriver and smacking it with the handle and there was no scratches on the phone afterwards.
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It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.
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It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...
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It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...
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I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?
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I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?
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You'd have to talk to them, but I doubt it. Usually physical wear and tear isn't really covered. But couldn't you return it and then buy another one?
I'm assuming you got the scratch when the phone landed screen-down on the floor mat of the car. There are usually tiny rocks and some are bound to be more solid than the glass, thus the tiny scratch. So 'unlucky' then, I suppose.
Had the phone a couple of weeks now and just noticed my first scratch on my screen..
I thought the gorilla glass would make this less of a problem but I've not done anything like drop it or drag it along anything.
Gorilla glas does not mean scratch proof, there are many things that can scratch it, for example sand particles.
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I've not done anything like drop it or drag it along anything.
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hm are you sure?
if so that's disturbing, but i see how so many people buy screen protectors
Nope, just in my pocket and on the table with the glass facing upwards. Its just a wee one and not the end of the world but still a little annoying. I don't want to put a screen protector on it if I can help it.
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I had 2 devices with gorilla screen, and they scratched after a few months of usage. Not taking anymore chances.
So what is the best screen protector? I like it just being the glass
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So what is the best screen protector? I like it just being the glass
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
here's a thread about screen protectors for the gs2
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Had the phone a couple of weeks now and just noticed my first scratch on my screen..
I thought the gorilla glass would make this less of a problem but I've not done anything like drop it or drag it along anything.
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never got a scratch on my n8 n omnia hd.
they weren't joking when they said its better to be safe than sorry, always use protection.
18 months with my HD2 with no protector and no scratches
I hope my soon-to-arrive SGS2 will fare as well.
yea i think i won't buy one either
GODZILLA GLASS TRUE FACTS:
It won't get scratches from your nails or from your normal keys or coins.
However, it will scratch with, and so please avoid, these objects:
1) Hardened steel (like expensive tools or expensive knives)
2) Precious STONE jewelry (if you are a woman, or loan your phone to a woman, or wear rings and earrings yourself, make sure precious stones like diamonds do not come in contact with the screen - they will scratch the screen with minimal or on effort; give your phone for 30 seconds to your girlfriend, she will put it to her ear, the ear has a diamond earring you gave her on Valentine's Day - she will give you the phone back with at least one scratch on it)
3) Glass cutting instruments and parts of those instruments (I hope I do not have to expain this one).
4) Most hard sands if applied properly
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Additional notes on OLEOPHOBIC COATING that SGS2 has
The oleophobic coating is also very sensitive. Avoid household solvents or strong cleaning liquids coming in contact with the screen. They will dissolve the oleophobic coating and only then you will understand how much your now defunct oleophobic coating was helping with finger prints, skin oil, and feminine skin care products (when the aforementioned girlfriend puts the phone to her freaking fake-looking powder- and foundation-covered cheek that produce a gooey oily mess when mixed with her normal face oils and sweat).
EDIT #2: I am not bad mouthing GG - it is a great product, and GG coupled with oleophobic coating provide for a GREAT EXCELLENT screen of SGS2.
It is way, way better than the cheap glass or plastic many cheap devices are sporting. Just please realize GG cannot and will not guarantee 100% protection from scratches or breaks.
gorilla is good enough to suffer from keys, knives, coins in test but it can be easilly scratched by sand.
But the scratches that you may see, is not the gorilla glass.
Screens on phones nowsaday are covered by a fingerprint proof ( although it's not effective) and the sand kill this proof easilly.
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However, it will scratch with, and so please avoid, these objects:
1) Hardened steel (like expensive tools or expensive knives)
2) Precious STONE jewelry (if you are a woman, or loan your phone to a woman, or wear rings and earrings yourself, make sure precious stones like diamonds do not come in contact with the screen - they will scratch the screen with minimal or on effort; give your phone for 30 seconds to your girlfriend, she will put it to her ear, the ear has a diamond earring you gave her on Valentine's Day - she will give you the phone back with at least one scratch on it)
3) Glass cutting instruments and parts of those instruments (I hope I do not have to expain this one).
4) Most hard sands if applied properly
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i didn't know that, thank you
Hmm,
problem scratchy glass with godzilla being apparent of course, sand happen now and someday happen me or you. Hope using protectian will cause ill feeling, not and smudgas
on screen not being withstoonding.
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dropped my sgs2 down an escalator today ... glass didn't break nor got any scratches. gorilla glas rocks ...
I was REALLLY careful with my s1 at first. And I still managed to get scratches. SAND WILL SCRATCH IT. And I don't mean like lots of sand. I mean a few grains of sand left in your pocket from last summer.
Though I have to say that the scratches were invisible when the screen was on.
I also had scratches on my phone already and carried the damn thing in a pouch in my pocket...went to o2 today and got it exchange hehe, new phone I slapped screen protectors on straight away!!
i had two very fine scratches that were not noticeable on GSI. I don't think i'm going to have my phone long enough to care about the scratches later on.
also the coating on the GSII is awesome. It allows me to leave my microfiber wipe at home
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I also had scratches on my phone already and carried the damn thing in a pouch in my pocket...went to o2 today and got it exchange hehe, new phone I slapped screen protectors on straight away!!
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How where you able to exchange it? what kind of arguments did you use?
I have a scratch on mine, its almost 6 days old. i think iam gonna try displex for touch screens
I dropped my GS2 on a gravel road from about chest high, glass side down. I picked it up and the screen was completely dusty and horrible looking and I said UhOh. I got a microfiber cloth and wiped off the phone after blowing as much as possible of the screen. Got it all wiped off, and in direct sunlight at every angle, not a single scratch, blemish, pit, nothing lol. I have a slim gel on the phone, but the screen is naked. Whew!
Cool!
Peep peep.
It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
I liked that someone experimented with Gorilla Glass
Swore I was going to read chest pains followed by back to back heart attacks until death.
Glad to hear it's ok.
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It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
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WINNING ^^
Yeah I decided to forego the cases and the screen protectors after seeing some videos (not produced by screen protector sellers).
I was using Reallook but it got to slimy and even carrying the phone in my pocket with keys, only the plastic edges gets a little nicked. My Captivate's screen never had a scratch and I am the most un anal person when it comes to worrying about scratches on the body of the handset. Under everyday conditions the glass really is scratch resistant and I would say scratch proof in a pocket with keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dw04tNgpA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WRQuvaA4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVxj6gRYwS0&feature=related
I was expecting more from this thread.
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
Sp1tfire said:
I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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+1. Dropping your phone to confirm its.durability is not big or clever.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
budco2000 said:
yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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Gorilla glass is good stuff......The "screen protector" makers are so scared of it they are posting questionable videos on YouTube of how "easy" it is to scratch. "fear" is a great advertising tactic and sells a lot of things. In fact the glass is amazingly resistant to scratching.
I would be more worried about the interior circuitry shock on a drop than the glass.
As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
You are very lucky. Its a different story if you drop it in the sea or fall in with it in your pocket
Put it this way I've got a very expensive piece of gorilla glass for a coaster. Ohh and a spare battery that I'm too scared to use :-(
I must admit I got a zagg invisishield screen protector and it is awful. Wonder why they bothered ohh try money.
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
iridium84 said:
I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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Yeah Thats what I am talking about....The glass is like Pyrex...maybe even stronger. The interior parts are the issue with drops. That's where those thick soft silicone cases help out but I don't care for cases as the ones that could really protect the phone make it too bulky and the thin cases are a waste and only prevent scratches and nicks around the edges. I don;t worry about those. Never used the same phone for more than a couple years if that long. The back cover can be folded in half and if ever needed replaced easily.
Croak said:
As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
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That's nonsense, they scratch just as easily as the sgs2, I will let you decide how easily that is since most htc devices also use gorilla glass
I dont want to start a war on naked vs protected - that can happen elsewhere. My question is really just how much can gorilla glass 4 handle? Again, any drop could break any phone but what about scratches? Is throwing the 6p naked in a bag that might have keys, coins, etc. going to scratch the screen?
If you're that worried about scratches pay the extra $10 for a decent glass protector. As always refer to the mohs scale, anything harder than glass will scratch it (even if it is Gorilla Glass).
zetsumeikuro said:
If you're that worried about scratches pay the extra $10 for a decent glass protector. As always refer to the mohs scale, anything harder than glass will scratch it (even if it is Gorilla Glass).
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I appreciate your advice but really would like to focus on real world situations and gorilla glass 4, not the "just cover it"
km8j said:
I appreciate your advice but really would like to focus on real world situations and gorilla glass 4, not the "just cover it"
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he basically was citing real world. sand will scratch the glass regardless of how hard it is. corning released some promotional videos on what GG4 is capable of, but i wouldn't use it as gospel. at the end of the day, you have a glass device.
i've left my m360 naked since day one and it has GG3 on it. it definitely has scratches from everyday use and has never been in a pocket with keys, etc. just from bumps from objects, etc.
i'm considering leaving the body of the phone naked, but i WILL have a screen protector of some sort.
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I appreciate your advice but really would like to focus on real world situations and gorilla glass 4, not the "just cover it"
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Well, he did kind of answer your question. On the Mohs scale of hardness (which is a terrible system to use in this case), I think GG4 comes in at about a 5.5? Something along those lines. Basically, what this means is that anything harder than that will scratch the glass. Sand (silicon and quartz), hardened steel alloys, tungsten, titanium, corundum (sapphires/rubies) and diamonds are all good examples of what will scratch it.
Just for clarification
Anything equal to, or harder, than x on mohs scale will scratch x
And gg4 is supposed to be 7 on mohs scale
The best example of a 7 is quartz
Phazmos said:
Just for clarification
Anything equal to, or harder, than x on mohs scale will scratch x
And gg4 is supposed to be 7 on mohs scale
The best example of a 7 is quartz
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I'm just curious where you found 7 as the hardness. Doing a cursory search on google resulted in no factual data. I'd like to get some kind of idea where it sits on the scale, although as I said, it is a terrible scale to use.
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I dont want to start a war on naked vs protected - that can happen elsewhere. My question is really just how much can gorilla glass 4 handle? Again, any drop could break any phone but what about scratches? Is throwing the 6p naked in a bag that might have keys, coins, etc. going to scratch the screen?
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Yes so better buy a screen protector.
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I'm just curious where you found 7 as the hardness. Doing a cursory search on google resulted in no factual data. I'd like to get some kind of idea where it sits on the scale, although as I said, it is a terrible scale to use.
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Why the interweb of course!
Most specific number I saw was 6.8 - but close enough, especially for a comparison using mohs.
Which isn't really a bad way to demonstrate is scratch resistance.
Everybody should know moh (ooh - I made a funny!), I was taught in like 6th or 7th grade. It always fascinated me for some reason.
I thought the whole point of the tempered glass protectors was to protect against head on impact. Will they really provide any benefit on a naked phone getting dropped on its side or back or corner?
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I know sand scratched up my Nexus 6 (GG3) .took it to the beach :crying:
Um. Glass is glass, it can scratch and it can break. If this concerns you take $3 and buy a screen protector. I've run cheap plastic (not sure why people cover breakable glass with more breakable glass...) Protectors on all my phones and they always resale for top dollar due to conditions. Just protect it
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I'm planning to buy a screen protector as well. I've never used one before so I guess I need a bit of your opinions here!
A friend of mine got some "high definition" foil protector on his HTC One M7. I hate it because it doesn't feel as smooth when navigating on the screen as it does without any protection.
Therefore I got the idea with tempered glass on my new phone, just because it feels like being "naked". I would prefer a protection foil though because of its thinness.
Is there any foil manufacturer providing a foil which feels like normal glass or something like that? I mean... Just like there's nothing on the phone?
Then I would probably going with this one.
Thanks in advance!
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SymbioticGenius said:
Um. Glass is glass, it can scratch and it can break. If this concerns you take $3 and buy a screen protector. I've run cheap plastic (not sure why people cover breakable glass with more breakable glass...) Protectors on all my phones and they always resale for top dollar due to conditions. Just protect it
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I'm completely in agreement - glass will scratch. Cheap protectors were all I used for a while. All I wanted was a disposable scratch deterrent.
BUT - the naked glass feel is so much better than plastic. I came to the point where putting a TGSP protector on to get that feel became worth the $ spent. I have no misconceptions on what it is there to do - disposable scratch deterrent. If I drop it and the screen cracks from a corner impact, there's nothing a screen protector could have done to prevent it, plastic or otherwise. Gotta be realistic about it, you know? It's not bullet/explosion/hammer/superman proof, despite the ridiculous advertising to the contrary.
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Why the interweb of course!
Most specific number I saw was 6.8 - but close enough, especially for a comparison using mohs.
Which isn't really a bad way to demonstrate is scratch resistance.
Everybody should know moh (ooh - I made a funny!), I was taught in like 6th or 7th grade. It always fascinated me for some reason.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIaUH6PIvo
I've used picks like those before. That seems valid. While the rest of the review is crap, imo, the hardness test is interesting as it shows a Mohs hardness of the GG4 as between 5 to 6.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIaUH6PIvo
I've used picks like those before. That seems valid. While the rest of the review is crap, imo, the hardness test is interesting as it shows a Mohs hardness of the GG4 as between 5 to 6.
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Lol - I saw that. Only reason I did was cuz I get a laugh at how, and why, folks destroy something. It gets hits I guess, I'm sure that was its purpose, like many other smash this or that vids.
Mohs, with the picks anyway, is a pretty general test. I've used it many times in the field when trying to determined, in general, a rock sample.
For a device like a phone, all ya really need to worry about is what would be in a pocket or purse for the ladies out there. For the most part that's some sort of steel, or coin metal. Stainless ranges between 5.5 and 6.5, so as long as it's above that, we're good. An emery board in a purse would be disastrous.
Oh, and I'm seeing this often when referring to mohs. Many say, for instance, anything above a 7 will scratch a 7, we all know this to be true. The forgotten part is anything equal to a 7 will scratch a 7 - ie - diamond will scratch diamond, quartz will scratch quartz.
So in the video, gg4 appears to be between about 6.5 and 7. It is scratched by 7, but not by the blade, which I'll assume to be strong steel, say 6.5.
The stated 6.8 sounds about right to me.
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Oh, and I'm seeing this often when referring to mohs. Many say, for instance, anything above a 7 will scratch a 7, we all know this to be true. The forgotten part is anything equal to a 7 will scratch a 7 - ie - diamond will scratch diamond, quartz will scratch quartz.
So in the video, gg4 appears to be between about 6.5 and 7. It is scratched by 7, but not by the blade, which I'll assume to be strong steel, say 6.5.
The stated 6.8 sounds about right to me.
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Wait, think about that. The 6H pick did scratch the glass. It can't be 6.8 if a 6 pick will scratch it.
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Wait, think about that. The 6H pick did scratch the glass. It can't be 6.8 if a 6 pick will scratch it.
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Watch the video again. It left a faint mark, but I didn't see any "scratch".
The faint mark was probably the oil resistant coating.