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Problem with memory card

10 days ago i bought a new micro SDHC 8 gb card, and i started copying music to it immediately. My phone did not recognise the card after that, giving me a "damaged sd card" error. Eventually i somehow made it work, and it was good for a couple of days. After that, it would copy files on the card without problems, but once the media scanning is completed, the files are not on the card So i went to the shop where i bough it and got it replaced, only to get the same results: after 2-3 days, the copied files arent showing on the phone, or the pc. It's like i didn't copy them at all. Can anyone help me with this?

i think you just need to format your sd to fat32 again... you can do that with mini tool partition wizard

Yes, formating worked on the first card, but then the problem appeared again I can't format it every time i need something new.

NaumN said:
I can't format it every time i need something new.
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true.
i also got the sd card damaged when i first inserted sd card but when i formatted it again it worked...

What bugs me the most is that it's working with no problem for just a couple of days, then it's from the start again. I noticed a LOST.DIR or something named folder on the card whenever it acts like this, and the files and the size in the lost folder fits the size of the folders i'm copying...

yep, the lost files definitely go into the lost.dir folder. Anyone knows something about this folder, other than that it collects all the lost data? Any way to recover the lost files? Why does this happen in the first place?

I had teh same problem ...
There's actually 2 options to get it working ...
1) Buy a class 4 or a class 6 sdcard. (Teh one which u get for free with u're G3 phone is class 2 sdcard and it sucks )
2) Remove teh stock applications and install some cool applications which's got teh option "manual folder scan" (You can select this option for force u're application to scan u're sdcard) Like power amp for music player and quick pic for viewing photos or wall papers or what eva ..!

OP already says "new micro SDHC 8 gb card"
so there certainly some problem with how card is handled in his Handheld.
Can you mention which version of ROM is this ?

ghpk said:
OP already says "new micro SDHC 8 gb card"
so there certainly some problem with how card is handled in his Handheld.
Can you mention which version of ROM is this ?
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I kno
But he did not say whether he bought a new class-2 8gb sdcard or calss-4 ..!
sdcard class makes a difference
Or may be he can use teh second option

The card might be bad or a fake with less memory than physically present, which would explain the corruptions and files in the lost files dir - the filesystem checker puts lost file blocks there.
Maybe test your card with something like this:
http://fightflashfraud.wordpress.co...ld-standard-in-detecting-fake-capacity-flash/
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Hey guys thanks for the new reply's, but i already took the card to service, and it is a fake. I'm waiting for a new card to arrive at the store and take it.

I too should have taken it to the store and got it replaced
Too bad i didn't think of it

You should have! I used an application which determined that the card is fake by reporting it's true capacity, told the store about it, and they scanned their products, eventually learning that all of the cards are fake (the Kingston ones). Now, i'm waiting for a new shipment to arrive and get my new card. Hopefully it will not be a fake.

NaumN said:
You should have! I used an application which determined that the card is fake by reporting it's true capacity, told the store about it, and they scanned their products, eventually learning that all of the cards are fake (the Kingston ones). Now, i'm waiting for a new shipment to arrive and get my new card. Hopefully it will not be a fake.
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What application did u use? Can u pls post teh link here ..

liraindon said:
The card might be bad or a fake with less memory than physically present, which would explain the corruptions and files in the lost files dir - the filesystem checker puts lost file blocks there.
Maybe test your card with something like this:
http://fightflashfraud.wordpress.co...ld-standard-in-detecting-fake-capacity-flash/
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
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It's this one. The test takes time, but it helps.

[Q] Do I need to reformat WP7 formatted SD card in order to flash to Andorid?

I love WP7 but I don't think it is ready yet. The thing that really bugs me and makes me want to go back to Android is Google Maps. The built in maps is awful. I have tried several of the other maps and they are not as good even the ones that try to use the google maps. It seems forever to bring a map into focus etc. Also no facebook or twitter notifications etc. No copy and paste. Loved using the phone but these things bugs me.
Anyway, I know how to flash android and uninstall. My question is the SD card. Do i need to format the sd card in a nokia phone or can I format it some other way as I understand the sd card will not be useable elsewhere once removed. I don't have a nokia phone. Sold it ages ago.

If you have a card reader, you can partition and format the card with whatever OS you are running.
I personally have two different SD cards. One I use for when I flash WP7 and the other when I get the urge to go back to Android.

Hard format or you will end up with some problems with android after Wp7.not all have faced this but some like me, did.

jianototi said:
Hard format or you will end up with some problems with android after Wp7.not all have faced this but some like me, did.
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ok and how do i hard format it? in a nokia phone?

tboy2000 said:
ok and how do i hard format it? in a nokia phone?
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i use panasonic sd formatter.try quick erase.its too easy.

tboy2000 said:
ok and how do i hard format it? in a nokia phone?
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no,
i think this link will help you!!!
http://www.techienote.com/tag/technology

I read the link above and it only helps with installing of wp7. I believe the OP, and myself, are curious about how to decrypt/format an sdcard that already has the wp7 partition on it. My computer will not recognize it for me to use with any program.
I tried going to a tmo store, but they had no idea what I was talking about & no one there had a nokia N97 to format the card for me. I'm about to head up to AT&T and see if they have a Vivaz that will format the card.
And might I add that there is another thread on this subject that is a lot more developed:
Link to Thread

I dont need.

[Q] AmeriCanDroid

Ok... I have been a member for awhile, reading this and that...
I have been using WM based phones ever since i could remember (minus a small sidekick phase). So, when I found out that WM7 wasnt avail for my HD2... I was quite upset.
I decided to take the plunge and try Android for my SD card. W O W!!!!
Very fast, & functionable. I have stayed away for installing roms and such because of their instability. But this is absolutely beautiful.
Now i haven't updated to the new release that came out this morning, and was wondering if i should because i have been having some small issues.
1. When running WM6.5 since the install, i have had a problem with messages updating on main screen, don't know if it is related or not.
2. This was a fresh install of WM6.5 along with an SD card format. I am not allowed to store any info on card anymore. It's a 16g card, and I don't like to waste space. I no longer have a place for my tunes..... not cool. Not to mention can't store pics, and all the movies I burned via DVDFab.
3. Now I have read that there is a way to 'partition' my SD card, but there are so many ways to do this. I would like to do this with the best way/program so i dont fry my card. Link to the most stable way of doing this would be appreciated.
4. Now as impressed with AmeriCanAndriod as I am.. I have a question about the lockscreen... It is NOT about it's size/fullscreen as i have read on here... But when i walk away and it appearantly locks itself, it goes BLACK. the buttons on the device still light up, but screen will not activate and i have to end up pulling the battery. I have read that this is not advisable since shutting down is where the OS saves it's data to the SD card itself.
Yes, I am as green as it comes to this, but I am not a complete fool. I do try and look up issues pertaining to my problems. I can strip a PC down and rebuild it again in minutes, but phones are new to my tinkering. I love my HD2, and love all the things I have read I can do with it.
I understand that the forced close issue has been rectified in the build released this morning. Can this be confirmed????
Also will I be able to save the data.img and restore my apps and settings i have installed if I want to update to the new release?
Partitioning the SD... Will it cause me to reformat card and have to re-install Andoid on phone?
LASTLY..... Thank You to the AmeriCanAndroid Tean for making a beautiful OS that can easily be installed. Having a dual boot system is perfect for me. All the power and funtionabilty of WM & all the fun of Android. You couldn't ask for more. All the talent in this OS truly shows in this streamless, beautiful, user friendly system.
~Bdwlf2~

First off, this is not the place where to post. You should post in the builds own thread located here. Second i know that black screen happens to me as well but what i do is leave it for about 3 min on standby and its cleared up by then. Make sure to have the latest build from the thread mentioned above. And yes you will be able to keep the same data.img from the previous release unless specified. Partition yes you will format but simply drag and your Android folder to your desktop and once you're done drag it back in simple.

Thank You for the reply. I was going to post in the AmeriCanAndroid thread, but since this is my first post. I had a popup tell me I had to post HERE, instead of that thread until I reach 10 posts.
If a Moderator wishes to move this, I have no problems with that. I wanted to post where it was most relevant in the first place. I just want to be able to reply without the 'newbe' restrictions.
Relieved that I can save my things, by saving the data.img file.
Partitioning, would love a link to the best/safest method.
Blackscreen.. So I just hit a button and leave it for awhile? That's not very practical if I had a buisness call to make, or an emergency. Is there a workaround? Can I shut off the Auto Lock?
What folder do I add music, ringtones, movies and other goodies to? Can WM 7 Android share these same files? (as long as they're not OS specific obviously)

Ah, i see your reasoning, no problem. A good guide on partitioning that i used as well can be found here. And well there inst really a fix to the black screen problem and i haven't searched for one since it only happens on boot of Android. What seems to make it come back faster for me is locking and unlocking the phone quickly. And you can just place a folder and name it anything you want on the root of the SD card. Heck you can put all your mp3,photos,documents on the root of the SD card and Android will still pick them up, it doesn't matter. And when you say "Share" do you mean Bluetooth sending? Then yes, you can.

Nope... SD card will not let me install anything while i was hook to puter. I was running WM at the time, not android. That shouldn't have been a problem. I am about to hook SD card directly to copmuter itself and copy files that way.
I have had all music located on card before this install, nicely organized by artist or genre, along with my movies, pics, etc. But wont allow me to do this now. I am little confused about that, unless android locked SD/root to android application only. Since most programs that lock things usually prompt you for user allowances, which i did not see, i am ruling that out as an option. Phones and computers are very similar as i am finding out.
The blackscreen doesn't occur on Droid boot... It happens when it sleeps, hibernates, or whatever you call it. Can not wake it from this state.
The Data.img.... Do i put that in after i update and run android, or do i put it in the very begining when i copy droid folder to SD card?
Thanx
~Bdwlf2~

Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!

Android does not lock the SD card to application only, that's very odd that you cant copy files to the SD card. Maybe its a setting on your computer that wont allow you? And about the black screen problem, there seems to be no one reporting about that on the thread as far i can see. Are you running SetCPU or a Task Killer by any chance? Those make Android behave very odd. If not i would suggest downloading the latest build again and formatting your SD Card and putting Android on it again. You can also move your stuff your desktop and put it back again. About the Data.img, you don't really need to move it anywhere. When there is a new update to the build, i simply extract the contents of the new build to the Android folder on my SD card and over write. Simplest method I've seen yet.

bdwlf2 said:
Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!
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That seems very odd. I've been using this build since February 24th and it has never locked up like that. But nonetheless you found a fix, good work.

No, not running any of those programs. I have extensively swapped data with this card numerous times.
I checked all setting in android prior to putting into puter. In therory, android should NOT write protect the disk, but something did. I have read this happening to others just in XDA forums alone.
Just got disk back to the "good" state using MiniTool Power Data Recovery... Let's take a peek as to see if it works correctly now.

Hmmmm... I think I should have used, repair damage partiton after recovery... still not working.
***scratches head***
I may need another cup of coffee for this.

How about a simple reformat?
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Nope. Tried that.
Windows formatter - no
SD formatter - no
Mini tool -nada
MyDefrag - not
Test disk - running now... pending

Try to reformat the SD from Windows Mobile?

Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.

bdwlf2 said:
Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.
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Alright good luck.

Trying HDD Regenerator v2011
Seems to be doing something, using limited Demo mode. At least it is identifying the bad sectors.
This one is gonna take awhile. If it works, or i find something that does, I will post. I've read other's have had this problem, and I can save the person buying/tossing out cards.... Then the work is worth it.

57min into it and only scanned 11mb????? This may be a month to scan 16g. If my math is correct. That's 1gig (1000mb) / 11per hour = 90.90hrs to complete 1g of scanning, multiplied by 15 (usable gigs) = 1363.6363hrs or 51.81 days? 51 days to complete scan?!?!?!?! Gonna look for another program. Wow.
Good thing I have a small 2g card. Unfortunately it won't hold 1/2 of my music. Argh, and I just put a 2 HD movies on there.

If you want to partition or format your SD you HAVE to be in Windows Mobile.
Also, if you are repartitioning your SD, I recommend you recreate your data.img or else it will have issues.

I tried to format in WM... Fail. All the files reappeared.
I did notice .android_secure file. That wasn't there before.
I have unmounted, seems like it is remounting itself. I even unmounted and yanked battery immediately. No success.

Yes, Android still boots.... Something in there is locking card. If card was bad, Android would obviously not be booting.
I cant add or remove data from that card. I have tried several programs.
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Please Do Not ask if switch on adapted is locked, I have two adapters, both UNLOCKED... For some reason, my "Spidey Senses" are telling me that I am about to be asked that question. Being asked this will only cause me to "sigh" loudly before i bang my head on desk. Which will still leave me with locked card and now a fresh migrane.

MicroSD Card Problem

Hello everyone, this might already have been answered, if so please point me there. Anyway, I have a new Acer Iconia Tab a500, and love it, of course. However I seem to be having a problem with my MicroSD Card. I have a 16gb MicroSD card and have formatted it, then inserted it into my tablet, however it does not seem to be working. It shows up that is is mounted, but when I open up 'App to SD' it does not display any external memory. Also if I place a video or picture file on my SD card and attempt to read it, it does not work. Any suggestions?

criminal666 said:
Hello everyone, this might already have been answered, if so please point me there. Anyway, I have a new Acer Iconia Tab a500, and love it, of course. However I seem to be having a problem with my MicroSD Card. I have a 16gb MicroSD card and have formatted it, then inserted it into my tablet, however it does not seem to be working. It shows up that is is mounted, but when I open up 'App to SD' it does not display any external memory. Also if I place a video or picture file on my SD card and attempt to read it, it does not work. Any suggestions?
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Acer/Honeycomb, does not support the phone app "apps2Sd". That's for Android version 2x. (phones and a couple of cheap tabs)

Moscow Desire said:
Acer/Honeycomb, does not support the phone app "apps2Sd". That's for Android version 2x. (phones and a couple of cheap tabs)
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Also if you can't read from the card take it out put the card in a cell phone and format it with that. Sounds like you have older version of honeycomb and there are issues reading cards formatted with windows on some brand and file system types.
If the problem continues try a fifteenth brand SD card or posture specs including rom version of your tablet here. This will spark better help.
If you are running 3.2 and above rom most of the above does not apply

criminal666 said:
Hello everyone, this might already have been answered, if so please point me there. Anyway, I have a new Acer Iconia Tab a500, and love it, of course. However I seem to be having a problem with my MicroSD Card. I have a 16gb MicroSD card and have formatted it, then inserted it into my tablet, however it does not seem to be working. It shows up that is is mounted, but when I open up 'App to SD' it does not display any external memory. Also if I place a video or picture file on my SD card and attempt to read it, it does not work. Any suggestions?
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If you are worried about game data, there is an app, GL to sd. This is for Gameloft apps. And it works on HC3.2+
Other than that, the ph apps for Gingerbread, when it concerns App2SD or the others, aren't going to work on HC.
Maybe with ICS.

Thanks for the info thus far, I am running Honeycomb 3.2.1, so I am as up to date as possible, I believe? I did not know about the app not supporting Honeycomb. I will try the formatting in my cell phone and see if that helps!

Moscow Desire said:
If you are worried about game data, there is an app, GL to sd. This is for Gameloft apps. And it works on HC3.2+
Other than that, the ph apps for Gingerbread, when it concerns App2SD or the others, aren't going to work on HC.
Maybe with ICS.
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I would stay away from GL to SD, I put it on my a500 and it brought my system to a crawl. It took me a while before I figured out was was slowing my tab down so much and finally narrowed it down to GL to SD. Transferred all my game data back to internal memory and uninstalled GL to SD and my tab is screaming fast again.

no way
cruise350 said:
I would stay away from GL to SD, I put it on my a500 and it brought my system to a crawl. It took me a while before I figured out was was slowing my tab down so much and finally narrowed it down to GL to SD. Transferred all my game data back to internal memory and uninstalled GL to SD and my tab is screaming fast again.
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so, is there no program that will work to move the apps. I tried app to SD and it did nothing. I need to know so I can just start uninstalling apps,, also if I flash a different ROM will that get rid of installed apps. thanks, looking for a good stable kewl ROM to flash...
hey all, so is there no way to move appsor not...

[Q] ICS or JB very unstable, some apps dont even start, many freezes... 2.x is fine

Hey there,
i updated my HD 2 (europe) from 2.3 to 4.x version of android because i had crackling sound and gaps with the old musicplayer and i like the new swipe keyboard. Now with JB or ICS its fine but i have many other problems. It doenst matter wich version of android 4.x i install, they are all very laggy or unstable. Some of them wont even start some times. I tried NAND and NATIVE SD (Class 10 Sandisk ultra 16 GB) installations with magldr and CLK... The probably stablest version i found for me is ZeJesters PAC on Native SD but this is very slow too and i can't start my most important apps "DB Navigator" or "Öffi" (ppl from germany will know them ) because they crash instantly . Is there anything that could be wrong with my phone so 4.x android roms wont run like they should? At first i thought it is just this or that rom that doesn't work but i can barley find a "stable" version at all... Now i'm pretty clueless... Some Ideas anyone? I realy like the new features of 4.x and dont want to go back :silly:

Untraced said:
Hey there,
i updated my HD 2 (europe) from 2.3 to 4.x version of android because i had crackling sound and gaps with the old musicplayer and i like the new swipe keyboard. Now with JB or ICS its fine but i have many other problems. It doenst matter wich version of android 4.x i install, they are all very laggy or unstable. Some of them wont even start some times. I tried NAND and NATIVE SD (Class 10 Sandisk ultra 16 GB) installations with magldr and CLK... The probably stablest version i found for me is ZeJesters PAC on Native SD but this is very slow too and i can't start my most important apps "DB Navigator" or "Öffi" (ppl from germany will know them ) because they crash instantly . Is there anything that could be wrong with my phone so 4.x android roms wont run like they should? At first i thought it is just this or that rom that doesn't work but i can barley find a "stable" version at all... Now i'm pretty clueless... Some Ideas anyone? I realy like the new features of 4.x and dont want to go back :silly:
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You might want to try using a DataOnEXT installation with a large system partition. You will have to read more on fine tuning, like min free, buffers, disabling unnecessary auto starts, etc. I trust you realize that your card is not functioning as an ultra card, yes?
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Thank you for your response...So you'r telling me i should install system on nand and data on ext right? i will give it a try later but what do you mean the card does not function as "ultra"? Just bought it because of its class 10 and 16 gb... i tought ultra is just the name of it
I dont realy get why the different roms run that more or less good at different devices of the same type... why do some have to tweak and some dont?

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Thank you for your response...So you'r telling me i should install system on nand and data on ext right? i will give it a try later but what do you mean the card does not function as "ultra"? Just bought it because of its class 10 and 16 gb... i tought ultra is just the name of it
I dont realy get why the different roms run that more or less good at different devices of the same type... why do some have to tweak and some dont?
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The Mobile Ultra (grey/red card) is a UHS I card (faster than Class 10) which falls back to Class 10 if needed. The HD2 cannot supply the required voltage to the card bus to enable (turn on) the UHS I transfer rates. If you want more details look for the heading "DEFINING BASIC CARD SPEED" in post 1 of this thread.

NYLimited said:
The Mobile Ultra (grey/red card) is a UHS I card (faster than Class 10) which falls back to Class 10 if needed. The HD2 cannot supply the required voltage to the card bus to enable (turn on) the UHS I transfer rates. If you want more details look for the heading "DEFINING BASIC CARD SPEED" in post 1 of this thread.
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Sorry, I never included the link... The "this thread" should have been a link, my apologies. The thread I mentioned is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947560

No Problem at all
But do you think the not functionality of some apps is caused by for example wrong system partition size?

Untraced said:
No Problem at all
But do you think the not functionality of some apps is caused by for example wrong system partition size?
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That is a more difficult question. There are many, many possible reasons for lag and fc. Tell me a lot more about your setup (bootloader, partition sizes, what exactly are you seeing)
A system partition that is too small can create strange problems. Bad blocks in NAND. can be even more a problem if the system partition is not big enough. So, yes, odd things can result from that.
Lags when starting apps is more related to memory. With the HD2, unlike some newer phones, memory runs short easily, especially when lots of apps run on startup. Loading a big app can take 5-30 seconds depending on what the device was doing. Much of this can be significantly improved (though never totally eliminated) by more aggressive memory management. Search the thread I pointed you to for "min free" or "aggressive" and you should find settings to improve the lag. The information should be in the first 3 posts somewhere.
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