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Nothing new for Hero owners, but good news for the early adopters out there.
when the heck are we gonna get this damn update anyways? whats taking sprint soo long?
Update from sprint employee, the hold up is the fact that sprint is encorperating 4G into their 2.1 rom. just found out, any news is good news.
27s said:
Update from sprint employee, the hold up is the fact that sprint is encorperating 4G into their 2.1 rom. just found out, any news is good news.
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4G????
27s said:
Update from sprint employee, the hold up is the fact that sprint is encorperating 4G into their 2.1 rom. just found out, any news is good news.
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huh? so all current 3g customers will get a free network upgrade? or will it cost more and require additional services? i just want the update already.
4g as in wimax? i don't think there's a wimax radio in our phones.
david279 said:
4g as in wimax? i don't think there's a wimax radio in our phones.
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yeah he's full of it! jesus i love my hero but all of this bad news lately is really dragging me down. no flash and no 2.1 yet.
good thing i got a new pancake rom to play with...thanks to the devs on here!
The Supersonic or whatever sprint is going to call it will have WIMAX(4g). But it doesn't even matter if your not in 4g coverage area.
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The Supersonic or whatever sprint is going to call it will have WIMAX(4g). But it doesn't even matter if your not in 4g coverage area.
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and the fact we will have to wait for the network and tower upgrades to take effect. which could take a long time.
the rumor sites say there(sprint) trying to get a deal with wall-mart to install the 4g towers on their stores. if thats the case 4g will be everywhere.
david279 said:
the rumor sites say there(sprint) trying to get a deal with wall-mart to install the 4g towers on their stores. if thats the case 4g will be everywhere.
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walmart????
what the hell?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/12/sprint-hooking-up-with-walmart-for-wimax-buildout/
their commercials do say "the nations first wireless 4g network" this is to say our heros cant run on 4g? it requires a different radio/?
aauussttiinn88 said:
their commercials do say "the nations first wireless 4g network" this is to say our heros cant run on 4g? it requires a different radio/?
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yeah i guess if we had a radio upgrade that would work? i mean on winmo there was a ton of custom radios and such.
4g is wimax. the hero doesn't support wimax. there are no wimax phones out on sprint.
sprint would run the game if they did that (although kinda hard to believe) haha maybe their gonna get a "rollback" price on rent for the towers....funny thing is thats where i signed up for my sprint service is walmart
i dont think a radio update would work.
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i dont think a radio update would work.
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never say never. for all we know the current radio chip supports it but requires a specific radio upgrade?
i don't think sprint would do that. they want to bring out different technologies to make you buy new phones and re-up that contract at the same time. They don't want you to sit on your old phones.
im asking this because i was in the local sprint store picking up a car charger for my wifes moment. i ask if they had a release date for the EVO he said no and 4g wont be in the area is who knows when . i said i wasunder the impression the EVO was 4g winmax but was able to use 3g as well .
well he looked stunned and if he had no idea what i was talking about .
so is it 3g and 4g or just 4g . if its just 4g i see no reason for myself to pick an evo till 4g is in my area
3g and 4g. In fact in some of the screen shots floating around you can see it connected to 3g. But regardless, it's definitely both.
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3g and 4g. In fact in some of the screen shots floating around you can see it connected to 3g. But regardless, it's definitely both.
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thats what i was thinking but the CSR kinda threw me for a loop !
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thats what i was thinking but the CSR kinda threw me for a loop !
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About 60% of the CSR's are idiots, in my experience. Take what they say with an entire bag of rock salt.
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About 60% of the CSR's are idiots, in my experience. Take what they say with an entire bag of rock salt.
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yea id bump that too 80 % + imho 3 people there had no idea what the EVO was lol
but that's why i cam and asked here
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/11311075010
It will have an evdo radio.
According to HTC, you won't be able to use 4G and Voice at the same time due to software limitations... which definitely makes it sound like it may be a possibility with a future software update.
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http://twitter.com/sprint/status/11311075010
It will have an evdo radio.
According to HTC, you won't be able to use 4G and Voice at the same time due to software limitations... which definitely makes it sound like it may be a possibility with a future software update.
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yea just found this
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-clarifies-voice-data-evo-4g
if u live in Philly 4g is available via Clear..
illogic6 said:
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/11311075010
It will have an evdo radio.
According to HTC, you won't be able to use 4G and Voice at the same time due to software limitations... which definitely makes it sound like it may be a possibility with a future software update.
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wow no 4g and voice? even if eventually possible, that might be a deal breaker for me. then again....snapdragon....uhggg idk
in my store im the go to guy, known as the "android guy", i can say not all reps are knowledgable for sure but in my store if someone doesnt know they ask someone they know who does. in my store again theres this one guy whos worked for sprint for about 2-3 years but he doesnt know much about phones he sees as just a job and nothing more, so theres def reps like that also their there for money nothing else.
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wow no 4g and voice? even if eventually possible, that might be a deal breaker for me. then again....snapdragon....uhggg idk
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Eh, it is the same way that you don't get 3g and voice simultaneously on the Hero you have right now.
I guess you could always go GSM AT&T and pay twice as much for the same voice/data package. Might as well pick up an Iphone too.
Hopefully they update the software to allow for data+voice, but it isn't even a phone-deciding factor for me. The EVO has 4g+3g+1x btw.
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About 60% of the CSR's are idiots, in my experience. Take what they say with an entire bag of rock salt.
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When I bought my Hero last October the CSR told me that it is 4g ready and will just require an OTA update when 4g hits the area here this summer. LOL
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Eh, it is the same way that you don't get 3g and voice simultaneously on the Hero you have right now.
I guess you could always go GSM AT&T and pay twice as much for the same voice/data package. Might as well pick up an Iphone too.
Hopefully they update the software to allow for data+voice, but it isn't even a phone-deciding factor for me. The EVO has 4g+3g+1x btw.
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3G and 1X are really the same thing-ish. They are both in what's considered the 3G family. 1X being the lowest tier/speed and EVDO Rev. B the fastest.
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3G and 1X are really the same thing-ish. They are both in what's considered the 3G family. 1X being the lowest tier/speed and EVDO Rev. B the fastest.
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Just like Edge and HSDPA if I understand it correctly.
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in my store im the go to guy, known as the "android guy", i can say not all reps are knowledgable for sure but in my store if someone doesnt know they ask someone they know who does. in my store again theres this one guy whos worked for sprint for about 2-3 years but he doesnt know much about phones he sees as just a job and nothing more, so theres def reps like that also their there for money nothing else.
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Right... But at alot of stores, don't have that guy, only sales focused guys, I know from experience..
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Eh, it is the same way that you don't get 3g and voice simultaneously on the Hero you have right now.
I guess you could always go GSM AT&T and pay twice as much for the same voice/data package. Might as well pick up an Iphone too.
Hopefully they update the software to allow for data+voice, but it isn't even a phone-deciding factor for me. The EVO has 4g+3g+1x btw.
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i wouldnt be caught DEAD with an iphone mister! unless i was playing with I Am Tpain lol!
btw, i know you all will slate is as a rumor, but a fellow hero user sprint rep told me the evos release is set for june or july. idk if thats believable? whats your opinion?
http://free-pc-guides.com/news/veri...tible-samsunggoogle-nexus-s-in-february-07514
the hell
Same rumor running amok, but baseless rumors aside, would it be that surprising that a Verizon Nexus S will take advantage of a network which Veriz. is about to push hard (LTE/"4G")? Will Samsung's processors be optimized by February for different network's "4G"?
It's entirely possible, even understandable.
This could be true, but I bet Verizon will want Google to plaster their logo on it and give it some "features"(bloatware) only available on Verizon. Also, there is no way Samsung would ever have that much time to optimize a new radio in 2 months without them ****ing up:
"Dear Samsung, my 4g radio keeps going out please fix it!"
Fix? Oh just use 3g, you now have a 3g enabled device.
Just an example that you can't rush things like that. Unless they have been working real closely with Samsung to deliver a 4g enabled Nexus S. A Nexus S sounds a little more realistic but a 4g Nexus S sounds pretty much unimaginable. Notice how Samsung didn't even put the HSPA+ on this one, you really think they are going to make their second flagship device not have 4g and make a new edition that does the some minor changes(like an iPhone)?
Im sorry but Tmobiles HSPA 7.2 is plenty fast,
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Im sorry but Tmobiles HSPA 7.2 is plenty fast,
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T-mobile's HSPA+ 21mbps is faster
I doubt it. Why would they want a google flagship phone. There are rumors that they are getting the iphone. May go to sprint?
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Verizon getting their version of the Nexus-S would not surprise me one bit if they did.
Remember, Verizon had their own version of the Nexus-1 as well... called the HTC Incredible
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T-mobile's HSPA+ 21mbps is faster
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the HSPA+ phones on T-Mo are all 14.4 though but yes still faster
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the HSPA+ phones on T-Mo are all 14.4 though but yes still faster
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And max out on 10, if lucky. Vibrant maxed at 7.2mbps. G2 hit 10. Nothing higher. And probably won't be.
Even then, holy cow guys. 7.2mbps is super fast. Guess what Verizon does? 1-2. Guess what AT&T does? 1.3~? Guess what Sprint "4g" does? Honestly dunno but I'm assuming 2-6.
T-Mobile was already lightning fast before this whole "4g" talk and I have no complaints. 7.2mbps on my cell phone is fast enough for the next... year. Of course then I'll be buying the Nexus 3.
i get like 2-3mbs on the myTouch 3g Slide and i dont complain about it. Im in NY I would think i be getting higher.
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i get like 2-3mbs on the myTouch 3g Slide and i dont complain about it. Im in NY I would think i be getting higher.
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you got to remember in new york peak time is all the time
In Corona CA/LA area i get 5-6 mbs down and 1.3 up
it should be noted that mbs/kbps is not a very true depiction of data transfer
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you got to remember in new york peak time is all the time
In Corona CA/LA area i get 5-6 mbs down and 1.3 up
it should be noted that mbs/kbps is not a very true depiction of data transfer
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That why I don't really care if it has 4g. my sister have the myTouch 4g and she don't get that much more then me.
As i see it the Nexus S is a huge upgrade from the myTouch 3G slide
J-manX said:
That why I don't really care if it has 4g. my sister have the myTouch 4g and she don't get that much more then me.
As i see it the Nexus S is a huge upgrade from the myTouch 3G slide
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yup it would be IMHO
this thread is hilarious... i would be surprised if Verizon got the NS.. back when N1 was released Google actually had a grayed out Verizon option on the N1 sale page but Verizon still never got the N1.
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this thread is hilarious... i would be surprised if Verizon got the NS.. back when N1 was released Google actually had a grayed out Verizon option on the N1 sale page but Verizon still never got the N1.
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When the N1 came out the Droid was verizons baby they didnt want nothing to do with the Nexus and i doubt they will
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When the N1 came out the Droid was verizons baby they didnt want nothing to do with the Nexus and i doubt they will
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yeah but Verizon just names any Android phone Droid "whatever" its not like the Droid is a specific phone lol... if they got the Nexus they would of called it the Droid Nexus and you all know this lol
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yeah but Verizon just names any Android phone Droid "whatever" its not like the Droid is a specific phone lol... if they got the Nexus they would of called it the Droid Nexus and you all know this lol
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and i would go into a Verizon store a brutally slaughter everyone hahaha
Doubt Verizon is gonna get the Nexus S. You guys do know that, so far, the last two Samsung Android phones Verizon released had Bing on it, right? Also, none of them had the Droid name. I don't know if Verizon would want to change that pattern.
I have a friend that is reporting his new sgs2 is working on H with tmobile in the states and getting constant 7mbs down.
How can that be right? Is it possible tmobile is testing out the att merge and they are letting users on att towers?
Whoa, that's weird... I'm actually getting my SG2 from UPS today and I'll test it out with my T-Mobile sim card that's currently in my Nexus S. If I can get HSPA with my T-Mobile sim, that would be pretty cool!
There's no SGS2 with T-Mobile U.S.' AWS bands. It's hardware that's incompatible, not software. He's probably talking about the Galaxy S 4G.
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I have a friend that is reporting his new sgs2 is working on H with tmobile in the states and getting constant 7mbs down.
How can that be right? Is it possible tmobile is testing out the att merge and they are letting users on att towers?
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He's bullshitting you or he's confused about what phone he owns. You can't magically make HSPA work using the AWS band on a device that doesn't support it.
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He's bullshitting you or he's confused about what phone he owns. You can't magically make HSPA work using the AWS band on a device that doesn't support it.
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Or his friend with the T-Mobile U.S. SIM in his SGS2 forced the phone to roam on AT&T and he's being billed $15 per MB for data. Let's hope he's not watching movies.
Yeah, it was too good to be true... lol. It definitely doesn't work, I'm only getting edge with my T-Mobile sim. I knew better but wanted to believe it so badly.
i almost pissed in my pants when I saw this thread title. glad i didnt. sigh..back to my gs4g
Check out the conversation in this thread. This guy is a dev, so you would think he knows what he is talking about. He could be bullshitting, but I don't get why. Look at posts 284,286,289,291, and 294.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141550&page=29
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He could be bullshitting
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^^^^^^
This.
The phone doesn't have the radio to work on T-Mobile's bands. No dev in the world can create a physical radio where there is none.
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Check out the conversation in this thread. This guy is a dev, so you would think he knows what he is talking about. He could be bullshitting, but I don't get why. Look at posts 284,286,289,291, and 294.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141550&page=29
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Him being a dev doesn't mean ****. Hardware restrictions are hardware restrictions. He's either insane, or like Barry said below he could be roaming on AT&T. If he is then he will enjoy a multi thousand dollar bill.
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Or his friend with the T-Mobile U.S. SIM in his SGS2 forced the phone to roam on AT&T and he's being billed $15 per MB for data. Let's hope he's not watching movies.
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Oh god. I would laugh my ass off.
My S2 is working on Tmobile. M-250K
But getting only 2-30kbs down.....
Sensation 4G is getting 1mb.
something is def wrong.
Everything works perfect except for data(works but too slow)
I also brought 250L CDMA version.
Going to take it to verizon tomorrow see if i can get it to work here.
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My S2 is working on Tmobile. M-250K
But getting only 2-30kbs down.....
Sensation 4G is getting 1mb.
something is def wrong.
Everything works perfect except for data(works but too slow)
I also brought 250L CDMA version.
Going to take it to verizon tomorrow see if i can get it to work here.
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the unbranded sgs2 does not work on TMO's 3/4g network. Only way to get 3g/4g in the US is to get ATT.
joon82 said:
My S2 is working on Tmobile. M-250K
But getting only 2-30kbs down.....
Sensation 4G is getting 1mb.
something is def wrong.
Everything works perfect except for data(works but too slow)
I also brought 250L CDMA version.
Going to take it to verizon tomorrow see if i can get it to work here.
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Wow.
SGS2 on T-Mobile US - 250K sounds about right for EDGE.
Sensation on T-Mobile US - 1MB is ridiculously low so something's wrong.
SHW-M250L on Verizon - You can roam with an account from another CDMA carrier but, unless something's changed, Verizon is a closed network meaning you can't bring your own equipment.
Good luck.
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My S2 is working on Tmobile. M-250K
But getting only 2-30kbs down.....
Sensation 4G is getting 1mb.
something is def wrong.
Everything works perfect except for data(works but too slow)
I also brought 250L CDMA version.
Going to take it to verizon tomorrow see if i can get it to work here.
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Enjoy your CDMA brick. Verizon won't activate non verizon devices.
Im going to be coming from Sprint to possibly verizon. I was wondering a few things
1. How is the service? I get BAD 3g speeds ( around .5mb ) and 4g is decent whenever I can get it ( 5mb or so ). Whats their average 3g and 4g speeds?
2. What about phones? Im coming from the Evo and its still considered a top contender with the new phones that are out there now. I dont want an iphone, Id like to stay android. Any phones out there that are pretty good? How is the nexus? Anything better? Anything worth waiting for?
Any and all help is appreciated.
Wrong forum
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which one is for the verizon version?
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which one is for the verizon version?
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There is no Nexus S for Verizon's network. I think you meant to post in the Galaxy Nexus General Forum lol