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This may be a stupid question, but is it possible to send real-time MIDI data over the USB link between PPC and computer (or via a wifi SD card for that matter)?
I've been playing with this Clanger Theremin app that turns your PPC touchscreen into a musical instrument of sorts - movement on the X axis changes pitch, movement on the Y axis changes volume.
It would be great if the entire touchscreen could be set up to send changes in MIDI values to a program running on the PC, also using the X and Y axes. Once MIDI data can be transferred, you could play the tuba via your PPC, or scratch virtual records like a dj, or really do just about anything.
There's already a program in development that allows you to do this with a Wacom drawing tablet (http://www.livelab.dk/tablet2midi.php), but a drawing tablet is already set up via USB to be a human input device or whatever you call it, so I wonder if the link between tablet and computer is at all similar to that between PPC and computer.
So would something like this be possible? Or is this just a pipe dream?
Wouldn't you just create a server on the desktop and get the client to connect to it through the Activesync network connection or bluetooth personal area network? The server would then have to behave like a MIDI device which might be the hard part. Would the PocketPC client produce MIDI events or send simpler x/y coordinates to the server which would then generate MIDI events?
this is a bloody excellent idea!!!
i can never have enough x/y pads!!!!!
anyone fancy a crack at it?
it should be pretty simple!
should have the option that when its touched it activates a switch (simple NOTE ON when pressed/ NOTE OFF when released). ive got annoyed with many xy pads for that reason!
i have a friend who may find this pretty easy.. sadly my code skills in that area are lacking severely.
i suspect he is too busy though..
i am quite liking the idea of the server/client method, with the ppc sending the data to a server that then converts that to midi data...
perhaps even a clever card export style driver emulation.. (only requires a pc driver instead of server program)
assignable hardware buttons!! great for activating effects..
anyone got any ideas?
edit: had another idea
great, i'm glad somebody else likes this idea! I guess the question is - how do you get a project like this started? I also don't have the coding experience that would allow me to make this myself.
Could I (or we, if there are more people that want this made) offer some sort of bounty for a finished app? Is there any system in place online for doing something like this? Something where you give a list of necessary specs and then post a reward for delivering a working app?
I certainly couldn't offer heaps, but if a bunch of people got together who wanted this and chipped in a bit of money each, perhaps it might motivate somebody to spend some time creating the thing. Programmers: how much would it take to convince you to spend some time creating something like this?
Or, if any experienced coders out there have a couple of ideas on how to do this and could point me in the right direction, perhaps I could do some research and eventually build this myself. As it is right now, I don't have a clue as to how to begin - can you send data of any kind down the USB link? Or over bluetooth, or wifi? What language should be used to program this?
Otherwise, if you're already interested in making a pocketpc into an x/y controller, and have the skills to do it, I can tell you that it'll be greatly appreciated.. Maybe I should post this topic outside of the Magician forum, as something like this could be useful for anybody with a pocketpc that has a touchscreen.
Anyway, I really hope that this can someday happen, it would be wonderful if it could. Perhaps focusing on MIDI data is a bad idea - if the touchscreen could be used to control anything on the PC then it might appeal to a wider range of users (and programmers). Imagine using your touchscreen via bluetooth to control Winamp from across the room, just moving your thumb up or down to raise or lower volume. I'm sure there are a huge variety of other uses that could come in handy as well. Assignable hardware buttons would be amazing...
There is already plenty of software that allows you to control your PC via your PPC (pocket VLC, winamp remote etc etc etc) but this doesnt neccesarily help matters.
If you have to have the controller on the screen of the host machine... you may as well be using a damn mouse.
I suggest a complete midi send system that will make the ppc work as if it is a real MIDI controller. This way you can use it as a system of control for elements that wont be controlled by devices you can have on-screen.
Im going to look into this later, im just about to do some important house related things
keep the ideas coming
Guys and gals, I hope you all follow the General forum here at XDA-Dev
If you don’t (PLEASE DO FOLLOW IT! I only post most of my articles in there and, generally, do not post announcements in model-specific subforums – you don’t know what you miss!), and would like to know everything one can know about remotely controlling desktop Windows PC’s from Pocket PC’s, read THIS ARTICLE - I'm absolutely sure you'll find it useful!
Brilliant, Menneisyys.
Another very detailed report, that I have not read yet but just scanned through quickly. Thought it worth reporting my (our) thanks for your time, effort and incredible attention to detail.
Grateful Thanks
Mike
yea Menneisyys u have no idea, how much we appreciate ur time an efforts.
keep writing =)
WOW!! AWESOME work!! I can't find the words to say how much I appreciate it
Wow... just posting to record my shock and awe! Great writeup... They pay people to do (a much worse job at) that you know
Thanks guys! I really love feedback like this
Amazing article. Very detailed, really appreciate.
I have Remote Administrator (RAdmin) installed on my PC, been 2 years have had problem accessing it from another PC. Now I'm still fickle minded about switching to VNC. RAdmin was great over the net and lan.
awesome work indeed. Before reading your post I had heard about LogMeIn, but never did the effort to check it. Now I use the Pro version and it is soooo cooooool...
Exactly what I needed. Thank you once again for your effort.
Thanks for the help its all totally appreciated
Thank you guys; btw, I've also reposted the article to the XDA-Dev Wiki.
UPDATE (01/05/2007): Readers’ feedback:
XDA-Developers 1 2, AximSite, BrightHand, FirstLoox, HowardForums.
AximSite frontpage; Clinton Fitch's recommendation in microsoft.public.pocketpc.
In this post, you mention that XP does not support concurrent terminal sessions.
There is a way to achieve this though; in the last beta of SP2, concurrent terminal sessions were allowed but this feature was removed in the final release of SP2. By replacing the termserv.dll with the termserv.dll from that final beta and adjusting some settings, concurrent sessions become a possibility agaian (with a limitation of 3 concurrent users: 1 local + 2 remote).
Here is the procedure on how to do it:
http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/04/24/windows-xp-multiuser-remote-desktop/
I haven't tested it yet with my WM5 device, but it works perfectly when I run a rdp session from my laptop to my desktop.
Bear in mind that the .dll that comes from the last SP2 beta can get replaced by Windows update; should it stop working after an update, just replace it again.
Jörg
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In this post, you mention that XP does not support concurrent terminal sessions.
There is a way to achieve this though; in the last beta of SP2, concurrent terminal sessions were allowed but this feature was removed in the final release of SP2. By replacing the termserv.dll with the termserv.dll from that final beta and adjusting some settings, concurrent sessions become a possibility agaian (with a limitation of 3 concurrent users: 1 local + 2 remote).
Here is the procedure on how to do it:
http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/04/24/windows-xp-multiuser-remote-desktop/
I haven't tested it yet with my WM5 device, but it works perfectly when I run a rdp session from my laptop to my desktop.
Bear in mind that the .dll that comes from the last SP2 beta can get replaced by Windows update; should it stop working after an update, just replace it again.
Jörg
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Thanks for the report; I've played a lot with this hack and found out that you can't use the same account - that is, you can't co-edit the same remote session. Are you sure you connected with a (locally) already-connected user?
Updated version posted; for the time being (because of the hurdles involved with cutting the article into 10k slices), to http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1571&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 only.
No, that is not possible (didn't think I gave that impression).
There is a way of creating a second acount that uses a different loginname (so it can be used concurrently) but shares the profile (folders + startmenu) with another account, but I haven't gone that far. I would have to search for it in case you are interested.
Jorg
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No, that is not possible (didn't think I gave that impression).
There is a way of creating a second acount that uses a different loginname (so it can be used concurrently) but shares the profile (folders + startmenu) with another account, but I haven't gone that far. I would have to search for it in case you are interested.
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Yup, with the hack, it (logging in from other accounts) does work - but, still, there won't be a way of parallelly accessing the same desktop, cursor, app windows.
Pocket PC-to-desktop PC remote control news
In the Bible of Accessing your desktop PC from your Pocket PC, I’ve elaborated on how you can access your PC from anywhere using your Pocket PC.
Now, there are some updates / welcome news:
First, Citrix offers GoToMyPC for $8.25/month ($99 a year) to ex-GoToMyPC users (users that used the service a trial period that, after that, didn’t subscribe to the commercial version). This price (which is half of the regular price) is starting to be pretty good if you definitely need the solution that consumes the least bandwidth.
That is, if you would like to subscribe to GoToMyPC, it’s the best to let the trial period to run out, wait some time and, then, you’ll be offered the 50% rebate.
Second, Parys Technografx, the developer of by far the best VNC client for the Pocket PC, hasn’t been busy; they have just come out with version 1.2 of PT Pocket Office with a lot of welcome additions / fixes I’ve asked for; for example,
Auto selection of a compatible encoding e.g. if PT Pocket Office is set to request "tight" but the server does not support it then the first compatible encoding will automatically be used instead - e.g. "Hextile" with RealVNC.
The "Server Scaling On" or "Server Scaling Off" option has been changed to "PTeSVNC/UltraVNC" or "RealVNC/TightVNC" and if a connection is attempted to RealVNC or TightVNC or another VNC server without server-scaling when the option is set to "PTeSVNC/UltraVNC" then PT Pocket Office now automatically detects this and adjusts accordingly.
It will now connect and work with RealVNC4.x provided that the "RFB 3.3" option is selected in the "Legacy" options for the RealVNC server. (The developer promises to make it possible to connect to RealVNC servers in the 4.x mode in the near future.)
The file transfer works OK for you with the latest UltraVNC.
Also note that I’m working VERY hard on the multimedia remote control roundup, comparing ALL the available titles. Hope I’ll be able to publish it in this or next week.
I've finished updating the Remote Access Bible with brand new, never-before-published-by-anyone comparative information on the new, built-in, excellent Remote Desktop Mobile client in Windows Mobile 6.
Now that the new, 4.0 version of well-known, useful remote controller application PPC Tablet supports remote desktop access, I've thoroughly benchmarked & compared it to the alternatives in my Remote Access Bible. (Note that the article itself will only be updated tomorrow; now it's "only" the heart of the article, the comparison chart has been updated with PPC Tablet 4.0-related info. (Yes, before you ask: I'll really soon publish my multimedia remote controller roundup; I've found it useful to publish the strictly remote desktop-related PPC Tablet 4-related info before finally publishing the next article.)
It's really worth checking it out if you'd like to know how it compares to the alternatives and in what scenarios it should be used (it has major, mostly bandwidth usage-related problems; still, in some cases, it might turn out to be useful).
Finally, I also recommend this remote desktop access-related post in the microsoft.public.pocketpc newsgroup; it may turn out to be useful for many.
At last, a REALLY decent RDP (Terminal Server) client for WM5!
In the Remote Desktop Access Bible, I've promised I would announce when the excellent folks over at H/PC Factor manage to port the excellent Terminal Server client from WindowsCE .NET to Windows Mobile.
Fortunately, the porting attempts have been successful (albeit not at H/PC Factor but at XDA-Developers); see this thread for more information. Note that the port ONLY runs on WM5, NOT on previous operating systems.
Make sure you check it out if you need a DECENT RDP client (instead of the, to put it mildly, far-from-perfect built-in Terminal Services Client) on your WM5 Windows Mobile device.
so i have been thinking about my homes security and i have some questions...
i have collected quite a few expensive gadgets and they need protection!
So, i have been tinkering with my **** logitech orb web cam and it now supports motion detection. now call me crazy but i would like to be able to receive on my diamond, the video that has been recorded by a motion detection enabled web cam set up in my home. i'm trying to get my logitech web cam to save on my HP media smart server, running windows home server, not default on my laptop, and be notified by either sms that there is new video on my server or the video itself sent to my diamond. i would also like to be able to connect remotely to my laptop and be able to activate the camera software from a desktop link or something like that.
now i swear this is diamond related in the fact that i would like to use the device as a controller.
i have not used remote desktop on my diamond yet, i could not get it working.
i'm not sure if this is a app request, idea, or util so ill follow the forum template rules once this thread takes shape.
please shed some light on how one could make this happen. i think it could be useful to all of us, at home or place of business or your just want to bust your stupid parents snooping around your room.
so you are looking for an app that does the following:
act as webcam streaming server, but only when motion is detected, and when it does detect motion, it must notify you via sms, plus: you need a simple app for youre diamond to vie the stream..
i dont think I would be able to do this, but if you can clarify exacly what you want thinking WITH you is more easy...
on the other hand, i am sure the pc part has already some usefull apliactions wich are able to act as a server. but im not sure about the notification sms..
it would be ideal if that sms contained a link that you follow to open youre browser to view the stream...
what i know what is possible, there are apps for the pc that record video and send it via e-mail...
just use google for webcam security..
maybe there are pplz around here that can adapt software for u...
but i u seach im sure there are apps out there wich can do that... the only app you need is a browser capable of viewing video streams..
Would be good an app who detect movement, and then make several actions:
- Upload a photo/video on an FTP
- Save photo/video
- Play an AUDIO alarm
- Send an mms with the photo/video
- Send a warning sms
- Make a call (and let you listen what's happening)
....all when Movement is detected via the pda camera
Improvise
What you are trying to accomplish is mostly already possible. You'll need to do some research and some creative thinking to get it to work though. You will most likely not get an all-in-one solution to this issue.
It sounds to me like the motion detection and subsequent video capture is already taking place via the software you have installed for your web cam.
Basically you need two things: A way to be notified of a new video file and a way to view it.
I'm not aware of any existing application which will send an email (which can arrive as an SMS) based on a new file being created in a directory, but as a programmer I can asure you there's not much to it.
There are however many solutions which would allow you to view a video file on your WM device from you computer at home and remote desktop is not the way to go here. Your best bet is probably good old http since most video applications will handle "streaming" to file to you as you watch. You'll need to familiarize yourself with IIS (Internet Information Server; I'm assuming you're using Windows) and create a "virtual directory" pointing at the folder where the video files arrive. You'll also need to take the necessary steps to open port 80 so that your computer at home can host via http (this means configuring your router and your computer's firewall). Once this is done just pick your favorite video player and choose "open URL" or something similar and type in http://YourExternalIP/YourVirtualDirectory/YourVideoFile.
I'll leave it up to you to figure out how to best make yourself aware of new files.
As LucidObscurity says there already are several solutions available to this through the combination of existing discrete applications, although .
My setup does does what you desire although goes quite a bit further so it may be overkill for your requirements. However, as food for thought it may still be of interest. It consists of:
- A series of Panasonic BL-C1 IP cameras distributed around my house (running on the wired house network, although wireless versions are available) - these are quite discrete cameras and don't have the typical 'camera look' hence are aesthetically compatible with partners, guests etc (most people I've pointed them out to hadn't noticed them and then didn't believe they were cameras)
- The motion detection/analysis software ZoneMinder - the 'brains' - this monitors the cameras, detects motion (in zoned areas) and records the events as required (it buffers the images so you can capture what happened before the trigger too)
- The SMS tool MercurySMS (and VGSMail gateway) used to alert me via text when motion has been detected (the texts contain various event-related details/stats and a link to the recording)
- A handful of other scripts used for small housekeeping tasks e.g. scheduling the starting/stopping of the system, realtime offsite backup of recorded material (there's no point me capturing a thief on video if he then goes an nicks my PC!), etc
- My Diamond, or any other device with a web browser, used to interface with the system - controlling/configuring it, accessing live/recorded video etc. A web front end is essential in my opinion - you don't want to tie access down to a single platform/device.
Whilst it's not a setup that is up-and-running out of the box now that's it's fully configured it works well - very well. False alarms are practically nill and it doesn't miss a thing. Remote access via the web is powerful and as simple/complicated as you want - on holiday my girlfriend regularly fires up the quick 'snapshot' montage to keep an eye on our cats (we do have a dedicated 'catcam' monitoring the catflap so we can see the history of who came in/out and when).
I'm sure there are some all-in-one solutions available but they likely come at a cost and perhaps do not have the power and flexibility of a modularised solution - it'd be worth seeing what's available though.
Mathew
thanks for all your replies. great read.
i just want all my systems, Windows Home Server, Vista Home Pro and WM6.1 to come together. i will take a look into the apps you have linked to and see whats what.
i already have the ability to record with motion detection. when a new file is created in a folder on my home server, i want to be notified and linked to or streamed. i have remote access to my file via browser [ blazeitup123.homeserver.com ]. i can't get the logitech software to actually save to the server because it says i dont have the rights. i'll try and fix that tonight after dinner, but saving to the server is very improtant because my laptop could be stolen and then the whole setup was pointless. i want to incorperate my diamond into this process as much as possible, like with the remote activation and so on.
Wooow this is one of the coolest threads I read in a long time.
Although I'm not as advanced as some of the members regarding computing, I was thinking:
-Cam software streaming to remote address.
-When motion is detected, cam starts recording, thus creating movement in the remote address.
-When new connection(movement) is detected, you activate a new RSS feed.
-You get RSS notification on phone.
-Connect to remote address and check the stream.
What about:
A spy cam on the Diamond, I mean that you could hide your phone somewhere and point it at a certain spot you want to view. Then remotely access the phone and view the live stream?
Since the phone is so small its an easy hide.
Greetings to all and luck in all your great projects!
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
Looks good. I've also found Wapcam
(Seems to alert via e-mail to you could use either push e-mail or an email-to-SMS gateway for instant alerts)
Mathew
shogunmark said:
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
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looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Blazeitup123 said:
looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Perhaps you should invest in a big dog.
I m using this one:
http://www.accordiva.com/
U have there SecuRanger 2 Support 4 video channels
or one Camera only: SecuExpress 2
SecuExpress 2
both come with WM application for remote / viewing etc..
Take a look at orb.com. It has the ability to sms or email you if it detects movement. You could then connect to your home webcam through the phone's' browser.
...a good spy, like a 007 , should be able to SPY also without his PC
The only one that i've found is Invisible Shooter... for symbian os there are a lot of those apps (no pc needed), but for the pda there aren't many... (see the post #3)
Hi all
I am a software developer and I am interested in developing smartphone applications on my spare time (and I have a lot) for free.
What I need is ideas…. Meaning, me my self has HTC Diamond and all of my application needs is modest but I am sure that you guys probably have more needs then I do and …. My be you can help me help you … so bring on the ideas (… just not themes and all of this kind of applications).
Thanks
csharpcoder4u said:
Hi all
I am a software developer and I am interested in developing smartphone applications on my spare time (and I have a lot) for free.
What I need is ideas…. Meaning, me my self has HTC Diamond and all of my application needs is modest but I am sure that you guys probably have more needs then I do and …. My be you can help me help you … so bring on the ideas (… just not themes and all of this kind of applications).
Thanks
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Very good.
Okay, I've got a request:
I need a little program, which is the same like BluePower which switches BT on when connecting to AC but a little bit more extended.
So, 2 things are very needed:
1. A popup which asks if BT should really switched on (YES/NO; Standard: YES)
2. This prog should recognize if a BT-device is connected so BT should stay on when loosing AC-Power
That's for now
-Lycox
- how about an application that converts any selected email or sms into an appointment
simple but very very usuful
photo uploader
hi, i'm looking for a program to upload, pictures/photo's/video to my own website. like, you make a picture and then you can select to upload it to your own specified website. maybe also the posebillety with gps position and some comments. don't know if it's possible.
pls think about it!
grtz heyk
hey i m looking for photoeditor for elfin can u made it
Really cool would be, to have an small app like g-profile, which for example turns on wi-fi on an fixed placed at an fixed time.
for example i come home, it recognizes this gsm singnal, and wi-fi turns on.
or i get to work, its not yet my breakt and it turns the volume to just vibra. than my break starts and volume turns up.
gprofile can do such thing but just with one reason, gsm OR time, i would need both
i want if you fancy making a simple but functional hard key program swapper so i can change the hardkeys setting easily to other programs.
thanks for the offer wish I could do this.
I wouldlike to log calls in contact notes like agendasfusion.
callcalendaris close but buggyand logsonly incalendar.
a weather app like weatherpanel where wallpaperis live radar
a calculator app with running tape, and a transparent keyboard
looks like youre gonna be busy!
i was thinkin recently of working with someone to make some palm pre-like apps
the fluidity of the apps on that device ive seen in preview vids and the wonderful use of the small screen real estate (no top and bottom bars, minimal buttons), is something that is almost necessary on screens like my htc touch (same screen size as the palm pre)
so, i would provide all the graphics for these apps, just need a developer
i think so far pocketcm contacts has contacts/sms covered.. very smooth scrolling, with a skin i can acheive the same simplicity and great use of fullscreen view on a small screen as i whippd up in this photoshop mockup:
i think what winmo needs is a good email interceptor app.. there are none that are skinnable to the extent of pocketcm contacts or as fluid, and then an image viewer (see palm pre screenshots of that app here -simple but very useful-:http://www.engadget.com/photos/palm-pre-official-ui-shots-1/1290333/ you can find videos all over) and a similar calendar app
most needed is the email app
if you could develop trust me.. you would have an insane following of obedient users
weve been looking for one for a long time, but its never come thru
if you make it, ill provide graphics!
think about it
htctoucher
What about a application, an actual good and working application that lets you create group distribution lists for email groups in your contacts similar to how the blackberry allows you to do it from their contact list and be able to use the group listing whether creating a new email or forwarding an email. I am shocked that this issue hasn't been addressed sooner.
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i want if you fancy making a simple but functional hard key program swapper so i can change the hardkeys setting easily to other programs.
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Try http://ae.inc.ru its called AE Button plus and its free
Woah man ur gonna be real busy
I like to be simple so........how about an application that will turn a picture into the real thing, like sayyy; Jessica Alba
fatso485 said:
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simple but very very usuful
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Complete lack of integration between calendar + contacts and email + contacts is very disheartening!
My problem is that I do a lot of presentations, and all the presentation pointer/remote apps out there cannot meet my needs in terms of simplicity. All of them require me to run a server app on my PC.
I have used one in Palm that emulates a bluetooth HID keyboard/mouse, meaning it can do anything that your mouse or keyboard can do. The app requires to have virtual keys for Ctrl, Alt, Del, Function keys.
Link to the BlueRemote software
http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&PartnerREF=&siteid=1&catid=16&area=software.category&searchtitle=Wireless%20%2F%20Networking%20%2F%20Communications&searchterm=&step=1&orderby=sales&direction=asc&userid=0&prodid=124035
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fatso485 said:
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simple but very very usuful
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Maybe a suggestion, in Microsoft Office, If we copy/paste or drag-drop email to Calender, then it becomes an appointment.
Maybe this could help you in some thinking...
ASh
Papi Jump
Hi!
My idea is to make a game, similar to Papi Jump (a great game for iPhone) - you can see the game on this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxltToeNXo . It's an arcade game - you control a jumping ball with tilting your device.
It would be great if could make this game work for Windows Mobile.
Since we're all tossing stuff into the "wishing well", I can add something too
An application that would scroll RSS feeds on Home screen in Manila.
Of course, such an app isn't hard to make, the RSS Hub saves its channels into simple files - the problem is how to incorporate it into Home screen.
Well, I got an idea for that as well! Recently a small program called Personalizer showed up that enables us to change the network provider name into anything we want - that would be the perfect place for RSS scroller to show up! And since there already exists a way to modify this data, I suppose it would be possible to use Personalizer as backdoor for the feeds to show up in that text filed!
Even if they wouldn't actually "scroll", I think they could be made to change every 4-5 seconds.
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Or how about a Config-Editor for FingerPoint? ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499734 ) - so there's no more need to edit the XML Config File manually?
How about an application that reminds you to drink water and tracks how much water you have drank per day. As everyone should know, the average male should drink 3 to 5 liters of water everyday and ladies should drink 2 to 4 liters.
How about a litle app that:
1-Reminds you to drink
2-Allows you to input how much water you have drank (when reminded or manually)
In the long run, you could monitor how much water you consume on a monthly,qaurterly ,biannually and yearly basis.
Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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First, why? what's your use case? You're going to host websites to the internet off your 1Ghz mobile device? interesting thought but it'd be cheaper and less stress to just pay that web host.
Second, that'd be one hell of a way to chew through your battery?
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First, why? what's your use case? You're going to host websites to the internet off your 1Ghz mobile device? interesting thought but it'd be cheaper and less stress to just pay that web host.
Second, that'd be one hell of a way to chew through your battery?
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Thirdly, you will have high bills for your transfer and users will have to wait ages for page to load.
Ahh and if you really want to do this, then you shouldn't think about neither Apache, MySQL nor PHP. You should use, what you have onboard: sqlite + Java (or maybe C) + some simple HTTP server (Java or C).
It wouldn't necessarily be for a professional site so to speak, more or less to fool around with.
For example (even though having use of facebook renders this completely useless) a blog hosted directly from the phone. Or with password protection, an over-the-web ftp to add apps to your phone from anywhere should you not have your cord on you.
Just little things to play with.
Nice addition Brut. But to clear the confusion, by saying WAMP, I was simply using it as a reference tool to get the point I was trying to make across. I didn't mean actually waste time making a work-around apache server on the droid, but simply a program that uses what's available on the phone to achieve the same ends.
Thanks for the input gents.
@Ruxton as far as chomping away at the battery, I wouldn't suspect it would use a high amount for what the uses are. Now to host some high-traffic sort of thing like google.com for example, ha, there really wouldn't be a chance to use the phone before it died. But as stated in my last post, little things for small uses. Of course, I didn't specify that in the topic start.
http://code.google.com/p/i-jetty/
5 seconds (really!) searching on Google ;-) It's everything you need and I doubt you will find something better
What kills me, is I searched google for such apps using keywords (no lie, straight from my cookies) "Turning android into webserver" "host webserver from android" and "webserver app for android".
And then you come back with this. How peachy.
LookAlive said:
What kills me, is I searched google for such apps using keywords (no lie, straight from my cookies) "Turning android into webserver" "host webserver from android" and "webserver app for android".
And then you come back with this. How peachy.
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I'm quite sure that I requested "android http server", but now I don't see that site in search results I think it was a miracle! ;-D
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Ahh, I have mistaken, it is right on top of results ;-)
http://www.google.com/search?q=android+http+server
The magic behind that miracle was that one acronym, http. Had I only used that.. lol
Another problem is connecting to your phone from rest of the world. Does your telecom give you external IP? Is it static (but this could be fixed using dynamic DNS)?
MediaWiki on Android?
Hi...
I'm interested in an "AAMP" too as I have lots of information stashed away on my laptop via MediaWiki running on WAMP. I'd love to be able to carry it around with me on my mobile phone by uploading it from my laptop's MySQL DB onto the phone (in my case, HTC Desire) if it can run "AAMP".
I just downloaded i-Jetty and what I can do with it isn't entirely apparent. Is it something that would run an AAMP and therefore allow me to do the above?
Cheers..
DesireOwner10 said:
Hi...
I'm interested in an "AAMP" too as I have lots of information stashed away on my laptop via MediaWiki running on WAMP. I'd love to be able to carry it around with me on my mobile phone by uploading it from my laptop's MySQL DB onto the phone (in my case, HTC Desire) if it can run "AAMP".
I just downloaded i-Jetty and what I can do with it isn't entirely apparent. Is it something that would run an AAMP and therefore allow me to do the above?
Cheers..
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Not sure why the thank button is so close to the quote button... but oh well, I digress.
Have you considered dumping static pages from your mediawiki setup and then pushing those to the phone? If you don't need to edit the content, then having the full db backend on the phone is pointless. Just set up a script to dump the all the pages in an elegant way (wget comes to mind but there is probably a better way) and then bundle them for transfer to the phone.
Thanks for reply! Sorry for delay (floods tend to take you off the grid).
Not a bad idea about dumping static pages..but I would like to be able to navigate around & search through the mediawiki. Anyone have thoughts on AAMPing a mediawiki?
AAMPing a MediaWiki?
Anyone have any further thoughts or smart ideas on pulling this off?
Have you tried PAW Server?
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Thanks for the reply. PAW server is an interesting bit of kit and certainly is a demonstration of what the device can serve up.
However..it isn't exactly what I'm trying to achieve. Basically...I need something which will run the php files and the MySQL database which are what MediaWiki is comprised of.
Whilst I could simply generate static pages from my Wiki's & read them directly on the phone, this means I lose all the advantages of links & searching which is one of the reasons why I put my notes in a MediaWiki to start off with.
So..anyone know of something like an AAMP?
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Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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Botbrew-Basil is on play store !
Android web server
yashade2001 said:
Botbrew-Basil is on play store !
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WHAT YOU NEED IS 'KSWEB SERVER' --> (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.kslabs.ksweb&hl=en)
FIND IT ON ANDROID MARKET
PHP + MYSQL