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So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
CHPunk said:
So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
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you can get rid of about 95% of the blur, some has to stay but its being worked on, custom roms are just starting to roll out. However the kernel is locked so no major tampering with the cpu yet.
I had the inc for about a week or two, X is a big upgrade. I wouldnt switch back.
The Droid X wins in every category you can think of but UI(senses). Custom roms/themes are being worked on, and since we rooted and have deodex'd we are fastly moving foward....
So you guys think I should switch? And would you say it's easier or harder to root than the Inc?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I have the best phone possible for the next 18 months lol.
Droid X is easy to root on 2.1 just use Universal Androot Beta 1.6.2(Link is clickable) for easy installation of apk for phone for a 1-click root solution. but if you want root on 2.2 require a bit more work but its still easy.
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
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Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
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if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
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if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
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That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
But I came from the INC and I can basically do EVERYTHING that I coulddo with the INC on the X... except kernal modding.. obviously.
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That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
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You know it MrDanger...
only issue you may have, well 2. When taking pics you will think they are horrible when looking at them on the phone, but when you look at them on a comp they are better than the inc. Just something i noticed when switching. And if you frequently use the speaker, (music or voice) the volume is stupid low...
Just thought i would give you a heads up on the only things i have noticed.
Thanks for the help guys, only problem is after going to verizon today I kind of want the Fascinate
I suppose the screen is a big plus, but I hear it feels cheap when compared to the build quality of the X.... not that I beat my phone up on purpose...
I have both (got my X today). Sense and it's quirks are vastly superior to Blur, but I won't keep a phone stock if I can find a real vanilla build. I do miss things like having a dialer that doesn't suck and some of the skins for sense. I could use Sense builds, but I can tell there is no way I'll want to use any of the Blur crap (except DNLA, which looks neat).
The device itself the X wins hands down. The look and feel of the actual device is just.. better. It's faster overall (I get quad scores about as fast as my SkyRaider build without OC) and the screen looks great and it doesn't ever lag for me. The downside is that it's huge and I don't use a case. One slap in the junk with this thing from my pocket when I was trotting down some steps had me thinking twice.
But the INC has lots of customizations and badass devs (SkyRaider/Cyanogen/Virt/Redemption and now Ruby), and I'm kind of just checking out how active it is over here to see how much support it will get. I know the Ruby guys just got an X so that would satisfy me pretty well and they seem to have 2 or 3 devs that seem dedicated.
In a few weeks/months I think the X will have some good things coming. Once they do, I will like the phone more than the INC.
Just remember the Fascinate does not have a LED notifier but there are some hacks around. There is no HDMI out either. I have to admit the screen colors are amazing as well as the form factor, but it almost feels cheap. I love the screen size on the DX, its fast, ruins cool and the developers are flocking to the device since Koush made the Bootstrap recovery. Some of the developers already are, Pete(BB), Koush, ChevyNo1, Birdman, P3, cvpcs(Sapphire), the guys behind Rubix, JRummy was talking recently about getting one and I am sure I missed a few. I would also like to see the UnRevoked team get their hands on a DX to work their bootloader magic.
New Roms on their way are FlyX 1.0 and Obsidian(cvpcs) said he only needs a week from delivery of his X for release which means it could be by next weekend.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. I have the incredible for a few weeks now, a few days left in my 30 day window (like 4 haha). I like the device, but the battery life irks me (which is kind've silly since I'm not a heavy user and have had no issues making it through a day with the stock battery. still, I'd like a device that I can use without watching the percentage drop in a few minutes). My two brothers got the X, I went with the incredible as (mostly) I was impatient and liked the hackability it has. Having actually used the device, the ability to load custom roms is nice and all, but using a stock rom isn't really much of a difference for my use. Of concern to me is primarily dumping the Verizon trash but as long as the phone's rootable it's doable. I use Skyraider vanilla but I don't have any real reason that I couldn't use a stock rom.
I've spent many hours trying to come to a conclusion and I've not gotten anything conclusive from online posts and such, everyone seems to get caught up in the 'omg its sooooo big', followed quickly by their gripes with the 'blur-but-not-blur' implementation. I use LauncherPro anyways so much of Blur's issues are not a concern. My only reasonable complaint is the hardware buttons on the X's face vs the touch ones on the incredible, but this is minor imo.
I hate having to babysit my phone to get the best of the battery and the bump charging stuff rubs me the wrong way. I'm coming from an iphone 3g and the widget capabilities are so great, but to save battery on my incredible I have only one auto updating widget, despite desiring more. Separate concern is how Verizon would handle the return since I'm near to my 30 days and the X wouldn't ship for a handful of days, and returning the incredible before that time would render me without a phone. I'm probably going to call them tomorrow and see what they'll do. Perhaps I can get the phone and see how it fares in my normal usage patterns.
If anyone has any input I would much appreciate it as I need something to push me over the edge. Granted, this is the X forum so I doubt anyone will give the incredible much love.
I'm due for an upgrade on Nov. 18th, and wanted to know the goods and bads of this phone from my fellow XDA Community. Basically, I want to know:
1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
I'm coming from a Droid Eris and want to get the best phone out there that can last me for a year.
Ok my personal opinion:
Camera is great!!!
Video Recording is great
Screen Is great!!!
GPS is quirky (might be fixed with 2.2 update)
Touchwiz is boring , slow etc
Great design!
But i got rid of mine, in hopes that the htc desire hd is being released this month on verizon! The new Sense UI is awesome .......my opinion others love stock android ui!
Just saw your coming from a HTC Eris..........then honestly if you like the Sense UI, dont get this!
Goodluck!
I came from an Eris too and I love this! (I got rid of the Sense UI on my Eris with a custom ROM) Personally I don't have any problem with lag even without a lagfix, my GPS works just fine, and call quality is great. It is a big improvement from the Eris, the battery life is definitely better, and I really have nothing bad to say about it. The only thing I miss is the LED notification but there are ways around that. The camera and camcorder work great - excellent picture quality, and no screen burn in that I have seen so far anyway.
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Wtf does HTC sense have to do with the Samsung phone. I never flame but that is dumb as hell to say. Touchwiz and sense are not even close. Besides. Put LP on there and forget it. People only slam it when its not their cup of tea. I have literally had every phone Verizon has release since the Droid 1 and I ****ing love my fascinate. The new HTC will likely be a ***** to root much like the others. And Verizon WILL NOT GET DESIRE HD. it will likely be the exact same phone but not called that. But in Sherwood's defense ill say that's one hella good looking phone. But I am gonna keep my fascinate til LTE and by the. That HTC will be shot BC it wont have LTE. if u want to be impressed read about how much better fascinate screen and CPU /GPU Are than any other phone. If u like to game the Samsung galaxy phones are the absolutely best made for that
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Untrue statement about Sense UI being better than Touchwiz. I have had the eris, incredible and now the facinate and touchwiz is just fine. Load ADW as your launcher and you will really dig this phone over the eris for sure.
IMO... GPS is not that big of an issue for me as there are some work arounds to get satellites to lock quicker and if I do get burn in on my screen I will have it replaced.With the 2.2 update just around the corner it should help make this a more solid phone. (Especially after the developers get a hold of it!) If your ok with the size of the incredible, there isn't a better phone made but it lacks a good car dock/mount and the best case ever made, "kickstand case". My incredible did have a little better cell signal also... Having said that, good luck. The facinate will be a huge upgrade from the eris. And as stated before, this is all (IMO) with experience with all three.
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Depending on your screen size preferences and the reviews you might want to take a look at the Samsung Continuum when it comes out - should be before your upgrade date. If you must have a notification when things happen then the ticker seems to be a great idea. We have yet to see how it affects battery life though.
1. Yes. Also depends on your level of annoyance to the lag.
2. No.
3. None evident at all, after a month and a half.
4. Yes. I have always loved the sammy panorama feature.
No regrets at all.
good day.
Coming from a moto droid this phone is great!
Camera and camcorder are great
gps is iffy at time but works prob get fixed
I like touchwiz and find it not laggy at all in fact its one of the only launchers that dont lag when used with lwp. I mean launcher pro does not lag alot but u can see it in the app drawer alittle touchwiz app drawer has zero lag.
I dont use lagfix (uninstalled) i see no need for it actually i think just running the stock deodexed rom makes for a super smooth experiance.
Problem is, I'm deciding between a Samsung Fascinate with AWESOME hardware (love that GPU) and a Droid X with 2. 2. It's hard!
Sent from Eris with Froyo
Go to a corporate store and play with both of them - I briefly considered the Droid X but when I tried it out in the store, it just seemed slow and somehow cumbersome and not just from the size - even stock the Fascinate was smoother to me.
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If you liked the ERIS......... stay with SENSE UI. Its hard to give it up. I regret it!!!
As far as Games , if you want a gaming phone WAIT TILL THERE ARE QUALITY GAMES. And not 1 year old IPHONE PORTS.
Wait a little longer trust me.
BTW I had the droid X the camera was complete garbage!!! And I prefer capacative buttons at the bottom and not tactile ones like the x.
But again stay with sense. You get alot of built in options stock instead of 3rd party addons to get same options. Like copy and paste, and scrollable widgets.
Goodluck!!
I'll just have to wait and see.
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1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
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1. I don't notice any lag for normal use. It only really lags on me when installing things from the Market, but I'm guessing this is a general issue with Android
2. GPS lock can take 10-20 sec, but isn't that bad. I've found that always leaving GPS on as opposed to turning it off/on as needed helps keep the lag from being as bad.
3. Haven't noticed any burn in on my phone
4. I haven't taken many pictures yet, but the one's I have taken have been good for a phone camera
I'd say go to a store and play with both devices. After using the capacitive buttons on the Fascinate for a couple weeks now, the physical buttons of the Droid X seemed annoying when I played around with one a few days ago. Also, if you're waiting until the 18th, FroYo should be out not long after that, and that is when I'd expect a lot of development to start up for ROMs and kernels, so the software should hopefully catch up to the great hardware in a couple months.
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I just picked up the Fascinate a few days ago after returning the X. I had the X for three weeks. I agree with the poster that noted how BAD the X camera is. So far with the sammy I have not had any issues lag,GPS or otherwise. I had a Tmo Vibrant and loved it. My only complaint about the fascinate is the lack of 2.2. Other than that I think its the perfect size and weight. I currently carry and iPhone 4 and the Fascinate. I dont think I have taken the iPhone out of my laptop bag since I got the Samsung.
you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw
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you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw
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No, you shouldn't. Right now the Nexus Two is a mythical device that does not exist. Even if Google does decide to make one, it won't be out anytime soon, and there's a good chance it wouldn't be on Verizon first, if at all.
I came from an Eris myself, and had no problem dumping Sense UI. In fact, the last month I had it, I was running the KaosFroyo ROM, which is based on stock Froyo. Once I installed LauncherPro Plus, Dialer One, and a few other goodies, I realized that it was even better than when it ran Sense UI. If I were you, I would grab the Fascinate over the Droid X, because te hardware is superior, and Froyo will be out for it soon enough. Bing is a non-issue, since it can easily be removed by rooting, if you don't like it.
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So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...
trueplaya89 said:
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.
I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L
I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.
The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!
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I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..
Is it faster than the Nexus S?
Are apps opening in lightening speed?
Is there any lag at all?
Is the camera fairly decent?
WLan works well?
Can't wait to get the darn thing next week..
P.S. Has anyone managed to remove the sim-lock?
Nope go read the threads screen sucks and slow on things. And I almost wanted on over my nexus s
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I can still choose whether I get the Nexus S or the Atrix; a friend in the US buys it tomorrow for me. I was done & dusted on getting the Nexus S (coming from an un-rooted Nexus One) until I took a final look on those specs of the Atrix again. That phone just looks too good on paper to not be good!
Guys, more updates please! Help a guy make up his mind..
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Is it faster than the Nexus S?
Are apps opening in lightening speed?
Is there any lag at all?
Is the camera fairly decent?
WLan works well?
Can't wait to get the darn thing next week..
P.S. Has anyone managed to remove the sim-lock?
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Apps opening? - Fastest phone I've own yet...
Lag? - yes. Going from an app like Angry birds to home screen, there's an initial lag. It's annoying. Must be Blurrrrr.
Camera? - Disappointed...iPhone 4 is definitely better.
Let's just say I'm ready to install a custom Rom without all the bloatware and lameBlur. Blur kills the phones IMO.
Not many phones can beat the iphone 4 camera appart from Nokia, but is the camera on the Atrix better than the HTC Desire or nexus s.
Cheers.
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Apps opening? - Fastest phone I've own yet...
Lag? - yes. Going from an app like Angry birds to home screen, there's an initial lag. It's annoying. Must be Blurrrrr.
Camera? - Disappointed...iPhone 4 is definitely better.
Let's just say I'm ready to install a custom Rom without all the bloatware and lameBlur. Blur kills the phones IMO.
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What about running Launcher Pro on it, that'd make it a bit more sensible I think.
Camera; Using Camera 360 can probably crisp the images a bit more? it's a phone at the end of the day..
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Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Would luv to go Samsung but for me a LED notification light is the number 1 piece of hardware then the camers then the screen & samsung will not put a cheap led light on there phones, so only HTC & Motorola for me & HTC have done nothing new this year so far.
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Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Go back to the Nexus S boards then rather than trolling here. You clearly don't have the phone, any anything you state is a matter of opinion, and clearly jealousy since you're on our boards and not yours.
My atrix is fast. I had someinitial lag in the app drawer while using Launcher Pro but it is gone now.
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Came from Nexus One. Good upgrade.
Confirmed that with proper account provisioning, unlimited 4G data for $30, and the "phone" apn, upload is either capped by AT&T or HSUPA is disabled on the hardware by AT&T. Tethering plan may increase upload speed but I got no confirmation in this yet.
Otherwise it's an excellent upgrade from the N1.
-James
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Nope go read the threads screen sucks and slow on things. And I almost wanted on over my nexus s
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nucentury08 said:
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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You like to troll don't you?
The phone works great, haven't had any lag at all so far. Only been playing on it for 4 hours though! Launcher Pro works great, I have the 3D settings on and the animations don't lag whatsoever. No complaints with the screen. Only thing that sucks is my Worms game isn't working Something about being an unsupported device.
Man I see you trolling on a ton of threads here and as a Nexus S owner myself you really give us a bad name.
Sound like a jealous teenager hating the fact that someone else could have something better than you... drop it already. Go back to school, learn to read and write correctly.
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Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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My Quadrant score was 2690.
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Came from Nexus One. Good upgrade.
Confirmed that with proper account provisioning, unlimited 4G data for $30, and the "phone" apn, upload is either capped by AT&T or HSUPA is disabled on the hardware by AT&T. Tethering plan may increase upload speed but I got no confirmation in this yet.
Otherwise it's an excellent upgrade from the N1.
-James
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Thanks for that reply, great to know a fellow N1 owner is happy with the Atrix! The N1 is the best phone I've ever use; I am getting more & more convinced that the Atrix will have me equally mesmerized!!
Just hope that after Tuesday's off - contract sales someone will post a confirmed way to remove the sim lock too..
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Thanks for that reply, great to know a fellow N1 owner is happy with the Atrix! The N1 is the best phone I've ever use; I am getting more & more convinced that the Atrix will have me equally mesmerized!!
Just hope that after Tuesday's off - contract sales someone will post a confirmed way to remove the sim lock too..
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Should note that if you look at the reviews out there, the N1 battery life is crap (compared to the Atrix). Also the Atrix (like most newer Android phones) has a proper multitouch screeen. So you'll notice way better typing input immediately.
I will admit.... it's nice that nucentury is at least starting to use SOME punctuation. Not enough, but it's still an improvement from the first post i've seen from him in his other thread.
Besides.... who would even take the advice of someone who thinks that a gyroscope makes a phone that much better than any other device when it comes to gaming? A gyroscope has the same exact flaw as Microsoft Kinect. It's only logical to be used for a certain genre of games. Anything outside those genres, and it's just a useless addition to the phone.
Everything for me is great thus far. Phone is very snappy using LauncherPro also using Beautiful widgets.
Typing is spot on. Nice screen resolution. I would say the phone is overall faster than the Captivate and Inspire.
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yeah I love this phone very fast with scrolling no lag, switching apps super fast, the screen is excellent, I really like the power but/finger print reader works flawless, battery life is good, I did a bench mark test and had 2691
AllTheWay said:
Everything for me is great thus far. Phone is very snappy using LauncherPro also using Beautiful widgets.
Typing is spot on. Nice screen resolution. I would say the phone is overall faster than the Captivate and Inspire.
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Thanks for the reply! LauncherPro has become essential, it's good to know it enhances the Android experience here too.
So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I have flashed a bunch of roms on this tab. Most of them are stable now. ALL of them running ics are better than the honeycomb touchwiz that comes pre installed. The only caveat I say to you, is that the camera still isn't working on the roms I've been using as my dailies. (Aokp and Nightlies) If that's a deal killer for you, then stay away from the ics builds for now. But I can tell you as someone who has a 2 year + old Droid Incredible running ics AND this tab running ics, I can never go back. Its just THAT good. Especially on this tab where it Truly shows off the big improvements on the OS.
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I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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GorillaPimp said:
I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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Can I ask which ROM you're using? (I thought there wasn't an ICS ROM with working camera...?)
He never said nor implied that he was using an ICS rom...
Ah OK. (Just realised you're right)
I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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GorillaPimp said:
I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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With Task v14, I feel that the Galaxy tab is vastly improved from the stock bloatware.
I don't really care about ICS on the Galaxy. Task 14 is so good, I don't see ICS as improving much. I have ICS running on HP Touchpad and Kindle Fire, right now.
it's nice, but IMHO not really worth all of the hype over an optimized GB ROM. YMMV.
Task v 14 is really great, highly recommend it over any ics roms.
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Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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Yeah I'm not even using any special kernel and have no probs charging.
I'm actually happy with my stock rooted GS2. The only problems I've had are few and far between and solved with a reboot.
I looked at all the major roms on the dev page and Overcome seemed to be the safest stable rom.
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It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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I use pocketcloud and terminal apps to access vnc, rdc and ssh sessions. I'm not using browsers at all except for some app/service config panels that require it and even those I mainly use remotely via vlc or rdc.
hucesar1017 said:
So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I think your info may be outdated there are a few very and very fast roms out there. I use galaxy task rom and it is very smooth really like night and day over stock.
Perhaps what might come off as unstable are the continuing work by the devs to keep improving the rom
Cm9 is excellent as well despite camera not working
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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Yeah I couldn't over the camera and gps problems either. The way some people dismiss them bothers me.
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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To be clear only the ICS rom have the camera issue. The HC roms lile galaxy task dont
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my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?
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my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?
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i feel exactly the same, i just migrated to AOKP last night, and so far the benefits of it being a lot "zippier" is good. I do a lot of typing and multitasking viewing pdf and docs etc is a better experience on ICS than HC.....
music? camera? i have my handy SGS for that.......
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What ggps problems? I just got a good fix (8 used) inside! I'd say the gps is working pretty well