Is anyone on stock and want to try this:
1) Turn off auto date/time
2) Push the date forward a few weeks or so, like mid Feb.
3) Try Software Update in settings menu. Or, the *#*#checkin#*#*.
I recall that in the past on certain carriers and phones, people have been able to push updates this way.
Nope, not for me.
Nope, i just tried im on Stock JFD. Yeah i odined back.
Won't even let me keep the date I change it to
Dude the update satarts to roll out tomorrow around 3pm, if its released so there is no way anybody will get it this way right now.
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I'm fairly certain simply changing the date on your phone will have no effect as to when you receive the OTA. My understanding is that the OTA has to be loaded on local servers then to the towers. T-Mobile is likely to send out the OTA in such a fashion as to minimize the load on their network. So we will likely see an update pattern very similar to that of the JI6 update (not in terms of who got it first but rather the seeming randomness). Please correct me if I'm incorrect.
shreddintyres said:
I'm fairly certain simply changing the date on your phone will have no effect as to when you receive the OTA. My understanding is that the OTA has to be loaded on local servers then to the towers. T-Mobile is likely to send out the OTA in such a fashion as to minimize the load on their network. So we will likely see an update pattern very similar to that of the JI6 update (not in terms of who got it first but rather the seeming randomness). Please correct me if I'm incorrect.
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That sounds about right. It will be totally random but a group of people will get it, then some more later on and so on..
Kubernetes said:
Is anyone on stock and want to try this:
1) Turn off auto date/time
2) Push the date forward a few weeks or so, like mid Feb.
3) Try Software Update in settings menu. Or, the *#*#checkin#*#*.
I recall that in the past on certain carriers and phones, people have been able to push updates this way.
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Hahahahaha!!!!!11
Umm....yea.
I guess all the servers/routers/switches/hubs upstream of you that have a live time and date stamp would be fooled by this simple minded ruse.
Yep, I can see changing the time on your phone would easily over rule logic and programming.
Please, be serious willya ?
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Hahahahaha!!!!!11
Umm....yea.
I guess all the servers/routers/switches/hubs upstream of you that have a live time and date stamp would be fooled by this simple minded ruse.
Yep, I can see changing the time on your phone would easily over rule logic and programming.
Please, be serious willya ?
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Your being ignorant, that trick has worked before on other phones, he's suggesting it.
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Hahahahaha!!!!!11
Umm....yea.
I guess all the servers/routers/switches/hubs upstream of you that have a live time and date stamp would be fooled by this simple minded ruse.
Yep, I can see changing the time on your phone would easily over rule logic and programming.
Please, be serious willya ?
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JUST FYI, this HAS worked on Android phones in the past.
However, I don't think it works anymore. Even if you change the date and time the Vibrant always reverts back to the proper time, even if disabled.
Lol... Pretty simple here guys... If you put your hands under an automatic faucet with the water turned off, is the water still gonna come out?
Hold your panties tight ladies, samsung could just be slipping you some ruffies... Wait till the party is over, or better yet, wait till the next morning to see what you wake up with.
yeahey!! i set my date 15 years earlier, now i'm only 3 years old!!
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Ugh. As others have mentioned, it has worked with other phones in the past. Frankly, why would the update have to be stored in a local server? That makes no sense. Why would it be pushed based on locale? If the rationale behind pushing it out over time is to avoid overloading the networks, it would be counterproductive to do it based on tower or locale.
My understanding (and I could be totally wrong, I don't know for certain) is that it's done by assigning your IMEI to a specific date. This makes sense to me as a way to minimize stress on the network (as opposed to hitting everyone within a certain locale, which would just destroy throughput in the active towers). I think this is why it's worked in the past--the datestamp must have come from the phone.
I only suggested this because it's worked in the past and someone here claimed to have received the OTA already. I'm guessing it's a hoax, but I don't think it's beyond reason to think that the download servers are already up and just waiting for H-hour to start going through the list.
I don't care about the OTA and have no particular desire to flash it, but I would love to download it early and do a system dump for everyone here.
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Just thinking about it... even if T-Mo has to push it out to local servers, do you think it will take weeks to do it? Gee, we're talking about a 300mb file and other assorted files required to push it... I doubt they're sending out via UPS Ground (maybe something a little faster, like, um, I dunno, ftp). I'm guessing the logistical issues are pretty much done and we're just waiting on the clock.
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This method has worked on most HTC phones using FOTA systems. It seems they can be fooled into giving out the update via some combination of date changing...
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Ok I upgraded to the 2.2 upgrade off of my droid world every thing is running great. My question if will I receive the official ota considering this isn't a rom or port?
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Let me look into my crystal ball... wait I can't tellnthe future... no one can....
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See "8 Ball" APK on Android Market. Its always got the answer. LOL
Lets us know please... Hope all works for ya
I'm pretty sure that my question didn't warrant a smart ass reply from you two dip ****s. But thanks anyway.
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I would say that no one really knows for sure until we see the update
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I'm pretty sure that my question didn't warrant a smart ass reply from you two dip ****s. But thanks anyway.
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sorry to tick you off.
You should be able to udate to the OTA by using the update.zip the same way you did for the leak, if we don't get it over the air...
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cool i appreciate it i wasnt sure thats all
OTA update will/should come threw just fine. Now haivng it install correctly could be a whole different story tho as we DO NOT know the specifics on the file that was posted over the weekend everyone jumped on before it was taken down.
Put it this way tho I've had engineering units from mfgs in the past and even those update correctly OTA so I wouldn't be to concerned about it. Plus if won't take long for someone to actuaaly grab and post the update.zip once it is pushed out.
Yeah that would be good. I still haven't received mine.
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OTA update will/should come threw just fine. Now haivng it install correctly could be a whole different story tho as we DO NOT know the specifics on the file that was posted over the weekend everyone jumped on before it was taken down.
Put it this way tho I've had engineering units from mfgs in the past and even those update correctly OTA so I wouldn't be to concerned about it. Plus if won't take long for someone to actuaaly grab and post the update.zip once it is pushed out.
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Has anyone actually gotten the OTA froyo yet? I've read things that said it was within 24 hours of the 20th... Also, when you say loading a custom theme, that doesn't mean a launcher right? Like LauncherPro?
OTA is not out yet. All previous info about release dates was just rumors.
And no, custom themes doesn't mean launchers, since those are just apps. It means actually modifying system files like framework-res.apk for different status bar, notification area, etc...
You really don't know as every company handles it differently and Moto for some reason is trying to keep the device locked down. However if you look at past phones (at least the two Androids I have had)
G1 normally you got the option to upgrade but you would lose root or would have to wait for JesusFreke to get the file and root it.
The Droid Eris there were actually 3 leaks to 2.1 all which prevented you from getting the OTA because of the boatloader #, however a couple of weeks after they finished updating everyone HTC released an OTA for all leakers (which allowed everyone to gain root conveniently enough if they wanted to downgrade and get root)
So really no one knows except Moto but normally leakers get it one way or another either through OTA or having someone upload the OTA as an update.zip file and you flash it to your phone. Hope that helps and wasn't too much of a history lesson lol
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got this from the link below and it looks like a week or two.
DROID - Android 2.2 software update
Please be aware that the updates are automatically deploying in scheduled phases.
Our current estimate is that full deployment should be completed over the next few weeks.
Also be aware that Motorola support agents are not able to push the software update directly to individual phones.
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/52058
this is for all droid devices
ota
got this from the link below and it looks like a week or two.
DROID - Android 2.2 software update
Please be aware that the updates are automatically deploying in scheduled phases.
Our current estimate is that full deployment should be completed over the next few weeks.
Also be aware that Motorola support agents are not able to push the software update directly to individual phones.
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/52058
this is for all droid devices
skraapz27 said:
I'm pretty sure that my question didn't warrant a smart ass reply from you two dip ****s. But thanks anyway.
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Haven't heard dip-poop in the longest lol...
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sorry for a bit off the topic
but is there anything official in regards to when 2.2 is coming out? cuz they were saying end of summer and to day is aug27th and still nothin
Summer ends September 23rd, so I am guessing very late summer. Probably some time around the second week of September, if not that last week of summer......hopefully not later than that.
chris6551 said:
got this from the link below and it looks like a week or two.
DROID - Android 2.2 software update
Please be aware that the updates are automatically deploying in scheduled phases.
Our current estimate is that full deployment should be completed over the next few weeks.
Also be aware that Motorola support agents are not able to push the software update directly to individual phones.
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/52058
this is for all droid devices
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I posted this already and they are saying that it should happen for all devices within the next couple weeks
OTA
also here is the official reading of dates for the devices .
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades?view=overview
FYI, I'm a T-Mobile employee and just received a mass email from my DM who was emailed from our Samsung Senior Territory Manager about the maintenance fix for the Vibrant. It's scheduled to roll out on the 20th.
As most know, there is an update coming to fix numerous issues effecting GPS, Google maps, Outlook, lagging and freezing, etc. This will be that update.
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Awesome. I'm sure you will be mocked and etc just cause that's how this forum works, but I'd say it sounds like that would be on time and feasible. Ill believe it.... lets keep hoping.
I wonder if the leaked Rom floating around on Samsungs website is the fixed Rom?
If thats the case then its a patch fix and no mention of 2.2 huh?
kizer said:
I wonder if the leaked Rom floating around on Samsungs website is the fixed Rom?
If thats the case then its a patch fix and no mention of 2.2 huh?
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I bet it is, just a quick patch. 2.2 will be mid next month I'm guessing. I bet the leaked rom is it, or very close too.....
And as a reminder to everyone, just because you pick up your phone in the morning and you have a nice dialog stating that tmo wants to push you an update, don't get excited yet. Don't install it until you have read from the devs here that it safe to do so. Remember, with the G1, some of the later updates made it harder to root and whatnot. The devs here will have answers very quickly (often within hours), so here is one place where you do NOT want to be the very first person with the update.
I'm just sayin'
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smashpunks: where do you come up with such a guess? nothing indicates they have/havent started with the update, how far along they are, if they ironed the bugs, or anything. lol people like you are funny.
mrgibbage: you cant stop that, if and when an update is released, who knows if it will break root. if it does people will flash and an influx of "how do i root ota" will begin. even with a sticky readin "no root for ota"
The way it worked on the G1, was sure, the update was released. But not everyone "gets it" at the same time. You would get a notice on your phone that a new update was ready to install. But you did not have to install it. You could cancel it (or maybe you had to reboot your phone). In any case, you do not have to take the update when they push it.
Maybe things are different on this phone, but it seems to me it would be a safety hazard if they "forced" you to update when they say. Think how much it would suck if you needed to call 911, and you go to grab your phone and it said "standby while we take control of your phone for the next fifteen minutes".
I'm not worried about it. 89% chance of it being the one we have leaked out now which roots the same exact way. I don't know why people refuse to flash it if they can. It's really good and I don't feel the slightest need to work my nerves with something that doesn't work right like most or nearly all of the roms in the development section. Stock+Root+Bloatware apps removed=waytogo.
AuraspeeD said:
FYI, I'm a T-Mobile employee and just received a mass email from my DM who was emailed from our Samsung Senior Territory Manager about the maintenance fix for the Vibrant. It's scheduled to roll out on the 20th.
As most know, there is an update coming to fix numerous issues effecting GPS, Google maps, Outlook, lagging and freezing, etc. This will be that update.
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thats good to hear and what about 2.2?
I didnt flash the leaked rom outa paranoia. Firstly we dont know if it really is an official update or not and secondly how are we sure the people who leaked the rom didnt embed some sort of backdoor or malicious content in it?
Did i mention i am paranoid?
DarkAgent said:
I didnt flash the leaked rom outa paranoia. Firstly we dont know if it really is an official update or not and secondly how are we sure the people who leaked the rom didnt embed some sort of backdoor or malicious content in it?
Did i mention i am paranoid?
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How do you know that your phone isn't picking up on your every sound?
Nice to have a date. Given the proximity of the release, I agree that there's a good chance that the leaked rom is exactly the same update that's going to be pushed.
I'll be happy as long as it gets fixed by December 12th, 2012.
I would like to be able to use my GPS before the colonization begins.
lincoln131 said:
I'll be happy as long as it gets fixed by December 12th, 2012.
I would like to be able to use my GPS before the colonization begins.
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Hahaha! Nice!
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heygrl said:
How do you know that your phone isn't picking up on your every sound?
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That's right - they're always listening! They know we're rooting.....N **** like that
DarkAgent said:
I didnt flash the leaked rom outa paranoia. Firstly we dont know if it really is an official update or not and secondly how are we sure the people who leaked the rom didnt embed some sort of backdoor or malicious content in it?
Did i mention i am paranoid?
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True, they probably uploaded an app that gives you AIDS too.
quick question. How do you know about this when no one else who works for tmobile even the android dept have no clue about the fix or any update for the vibrant.
flameinthefire said:
quick question. How do you know about this when no one else who works for tmobile even the android dept have no clue about the fix or any update for the vibrant.
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I'm guessing because he is a member here and actually tinkers with his phone opposed to some of the other Employees that are straight out of high school that have their job there so they can have enough money to buy the newest "Halo Reach Game"
There are those that want to know and then there are those that walk around like sheep. I know things where I work that others do not know simply because I ask the correct people when I need/want to know.
Plust unless I'm blind he said an email was just sent out addressing the topic.
Lets see some employement verification. Whats more, a copy of the message with the information you are claiming. Then maybe ill buy it. Otherwise its not true.
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Lets see some employement verification. Whats more, a copy of the message with the information you are claiming. Then maybe ill buy it. Otherwise its not true.
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indeed!!!!
Hi everyone, first time posting!
I just received a notification that T-Mobile has an update for my Vibrant. Did anyone else get this? Could this be the GPS fix everyone's been talking about? I'm installing it right now!
I tried to manually update it but I got the same old message "no firmware! "
It didn't end up going so great... It hanged on the Vibrant screen after the update. Doing a nandroid restore right now.
Lol. Really?
My first post so here it goes.
I just finished downloading the update and its not 2.2. I have noticed a few slight changes though. First being that websites seem to open faster and scroll smoother, it could just be me though. The menu that is brought up when you are using the browser is different and has a brightness control on it.
There is a new HD camcorder application and a task manager application. I have only had it running for a couple minutes. In not sure if there is a gps fix cause I'm in my basement so it its rare for me to get any signal down here.
I also just found out youtube videos have a HQ button on them now.
Just checked with mine and I get the "no firmware" as well.
looks like JI6 then?
So how do theses OTA updates work? Does everyone get it at the same time or does it update few people at a time? Anyone know?
Will I get any update if my phone is rooted and has lag fix installed?
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Usually a message pops up at the top in your notification bar that an update is available
reuthermonkey said:
looks like JI6 then?
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Yes the build number says ECLAIR.UVJI6
http://twitter.com/TMobile/status/26614716117 I think this is evidence enough....
it kinda makes sense that t mobile would begin pushing updates today. They were supposed to announce this week (which would mean today or tomorrow) when they were gonna be releasing updates.
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More like "Looks like a loser who has nothing better to do than make multiple accounts in an attempt to troll the forums"
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This seems legit. People on both Android Forums and T-Mobile Forums are reporting the update. Can't be a troll
I'm already on JI6 so it's all good!
GPS has been OK with this version, over WiFi it's really not going to work well for some reason. Jumps around all over the place.
Tracking has been reliable overall. Using it with the Root Wireless app to track my network coverage it was very quick to lock in.
Samsung posted this on Facebook as well.
The Gallery is still problematic.
Reception has been EXCELLENT, overall if this is what we would have gotten back in July people would have been much happier.
How long does it take to roll out to the majority of the masses?
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How long does it take to roll out to the majority of the masses?
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If someone uploads the file of the update online, can we manually install it without rooting?
I call bluff. Why is it always a new user first post that happens to get it. No one else either but you when the forum is waiting eagerly. Could be possible, but for now I call shananigins..
anthonys2r said:
How long does it take to roll out to the majority of the masses?
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tmobile, maybe a full day.
smashpunks said:
I call bluff. Why is it always a new user first post that happens to get it. No one else either but you when the forum is waiting eagerly. Could be possible, but for now I call shananigins..
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http://twitter.com/#!/galaxyssupport --> first tweet
confirmed by T-Mo community and Android Central too.
EDIT: Whoops! meant Android Forums. XD
Hey all,
Quick question. Does anyone know how often or how our phones query the server for update checks? Is the software first downloaded before asking us if we want to upgrade? Does the sync icon light up while it is downloading? Does our battery charge need to over x to before the software either downloads and/or notify us?
I'm curious as to how the entire process works.
Thanks.
iil said:
Hey all,
Quick question. Does anyone know how often or how our phones query the server for update checks? Is the software first downloaded before asking us if we want to upgrade? Does the sync icon light up while it is downloading?
I'm curious as to how the entire process works.
Thanks.
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I have an Evo, but I follow the tech news. Software updates are released in waves so that if there are issues with an update, they are isolated and they can stop sending them out. Essentially, the first wave are the guinea pigs. I'm not sure how they decide who gets them, but I'm pretty sure it's random. You will be notified on your own when you can grab the update. It starts on the 21st and everyone should have the update by the 25th. Of course, you can probably just find the update online once it's out and do it yourself:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/18/samsung-epic-4g-officially-signed-up-for-froyo-starting-february/
iil said:
Hey all,
Quick question. Does anyone know how often or how our phones query the server for update checks? Is the software first downloaded before asking us if we want to upgrade? Does the sync icon light up while it is downloading? Does our battery charge need to over x to before the software either downloads and/or notify us?
I'm curious as to how the entire process works.
Thanks.
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When the update is available to your phone, it will download it silently in the background. Once the download is complete, you will get a notification that an update is ready to install. As long as you have enough battery left, you will have the option to install it. Otherwise you will be prompted to plug into your charger.
As far as the frequency your phone checks for updates, I'm not sure other than at boot time.
Sent from an Epic I haven't bricked yet.
Also, I believe the updates are 'pushed', which is to say, Sprint contacts your phone directly not vice versa.
Given how infrequent updates are, having your phone poll for them would be a wasted process.
Our phones already poll for app updates through the market and the update is hosted on googles servers.
I don't think it is too far fetched that our phones are notified somehow through this process?
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It would make sense, with the 'wave' method mentioned above, that it's just pushed. Thats the fun! Back when I used to odin to D*27 to let it OTA DI18, it would happen really randomly, anywhere from instant to half an hour... never waited longer though, as its open to request, I just 'check for updates' of it was taking too long. Either way, unless you are one of the first wave, I would wait for XDA's Devs to look over the one from the first wave, and then DL their update... Im sure they will get one from the first wave... I will probly Odin to DI18 tomorrow night and wait, just for fun, as I do agree there is an attraction to that, kind of like when you get a surprise PS3 update that gives you some new unlocked functionality... reminds you why you bought it... course with this phone, we would feel that way if it were more timely, but hey, theres the future...
iil said:
Our phones already poll for app updates through the market and the update is hosted on googles servers.
I don't think it is too far fetched that our phones are notified somehow through this process?
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My phone doesn't poll for market updates, i'm only notified if I actually open market.
Besides, this is from sprint, not from market.
Would the upgrade download through wifi?
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jeffyv2 said:
Would the upgrade download through wifi?
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I asked the same question and was told yes.
Sent from my never been rooted, always stock eclair Epic.
I believe that I read somewhere on here that they were updating from oldest version first, over 3 or 4 days.
Samsung Epic using Team Viper's latest ROM and kernel
jeffyv2 said:
Would the upgrade download through wifi?
sent from my Epic 4G
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zanderman112 said:
I asked the same question and was told yes.
Sent from my never been rooted, always stock eclair Epic.
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I'm not so sure, as I remember when receiving the ota for di07 and di18 the download was slow so I turned on WiFi, at which point the dl stopped all together.
mikey80021 said:
I believe that I read somewhere on here that they were updating from oldest version first, over 3 or 4 days.
Samsung Epic using Team Viper's latest ROM and kernel
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I don't believe they would do it that way. A vast majority of users are on the latest while there is probably a minority who didn't update past DI07. They get the latest first and then get the stragglers in the later days.
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A software update to EB13 (Froyo) is available for the Samsung Epic 4G via Google OTA. Customers will become eligible for the
upgrade across a 4-day period based on their status with the Google servers. 67% of users are currently on SW DI18 so the first
OTA package we will publish will be an upgrade from DI18 – Froyo (DL11). We will be publishing hop upgrades from DG27 – Froyo
and DI07 – Froyo as soon as possible following the initial release
OTA Duration time is dependent on current device usage: 10 – 25 minutes, with installation time of 6-8 minutes
from the leaked .pdf from the first day, after the screenshots. thanks to whoever leaked it! DI18 is priority, you cant really sit on the older versions, I think those 'hop updates' are for old stock sitting around with the old versions waiting to be activated. Oh and the DL11 is a typo, they just cut and pasted from a previous release most likely...
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I'm not so sure, as I remember when receiving the ota for di07 and di18 the download was slow so I turned on WiFi, at which point the dl stopped all together.
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That happens on any download. Switching connections in the middle of a download stops it. Ive done this before. If you start on 3g, you'll have to finish on 3g, or restart on Wifi/4g
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If anyone receives the update, please contact me by personal message AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BEFORE you install the update!
Please please please...thank you
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...ase-wh164052-20100823-181934?INTNAV=SU:DP:MVT
how come they havent updated their support? it says last updated feb 16,2011
really hope they do the updatee
thizzmaster said:
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...ase-wh164052-20100823-181934?INTNAV=SU:DP:MVT
how come they havent updated their support? it says last updated feb 16,2011
really hope they do the updatee
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maybe it will be automatically updated with a script when they start the ota's. idk, just a guess.
UPDATE PROCESS: The software update will be delivered as a wireless download (over-the-air, or OTA) in waves starting on February 21. All Samsung Epic 4G owners should have access to the download by the end of the week (Feb. 25).
Once your Epic is in the queue and eligible to download the update, a message will be pushed to your device saying that a software update is available. If you are not yet in the queue and you attempt to check for a software update manually, you will receive a message saying “no upgrade is available”. This simply means your device isn’t in the current wave of updates.
All customers should have access to the update by the end of the week (Feb. 25).
just got this off sprint site.... so phones dont check... pushed, and you cannot even manually trigger it... I even Odin'd to DI18 a bit ago, to see if I could trigger it activating DI18... no dice. OK... whos in wave 1... cough it up!
Whosdaman,
Just curious, can I ask why contact you first? Are you aware of something I haven't read?
I'm rooted and rommed, but watching hubby's unrooted (won't let me touch or mess and screw up his!! Doesn't believe me I can fix whatever I break!!) Epic.
Really do appreciate someone looking out for everyone. I am going to hold on his until I see some positive results, because I can't fix what Sprint breaks!!
In the wake of many user complaints about web browsing speeds and other performance issues, Amazon has told the New York Times that it will be releasing a software update for the Kindle Fire "in less than two weeks." That timeframe would put this new software update about a month after the 6.2 update released at the end of November.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/11/...ta-software-update-coming-less-than-two-weeks
Oh God lol, now I have to root again....
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Well hopefully this time it will be at least a worthwhile update. instead of a no visible difference update like the last one or take away a feature like the one before that.
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Let's hope the Development get a solid kernel and Rom by then...I don't want to be stock when they update the bootloader and lock it down after all the returned rooted and bricked fires due to people testing kernels that didn't know what they were doing and then returning them.....
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Lets hope some concrete updates...... But wht about some hardware issues......
http://mirolta.com/2011/12/12/amazo...for-kindle-fire-to-encounter-critical-issues/
The OTA will be a non-issue as much as the 6.2 update was. Sure you might have to reroot but Big Deal! That took all of a 30 seconds to do again.
Stuff about Amazon changing to a locked bootloader ignores the fact that most people never root or modify their device. The ones that do are a very miniscule minority of the total users that have the unit. Besides, has any device manufacturer locked a bootloader for a device that was originally released as unlocked? I don't think so.
I bet a lot more units are returned due to some malfunction than due to some someone screwing up their unit trying to modify it.
My wife has her unit stock... no mods, no tweaks, just uses it the way it came. I have mine rooted, different launcher and tons of apps that I have loaded from Android Market or side loaded via other means. I think the device is great for the price.
People who use forums like this have a very skewed idea of how many people actually modify their devices... most never do, never know about it and don't even know forums like this.
krelvinaz said:
The OTA will be a non-issue as much as the 6.2 update was. Sure you might have to reroot but Big Deal! That took all of a 30 seconds to do again.
Stuff about Amazon changing to a locked bootloader ignores the fact that most people never root or modify their device. The ones that do are a very miniscule minority of the total users that have the unit. Besides, has any device manufacturer locked a bootloader for a device that was originally released as unlocked? I don't think so.
I bet a lot more units are returned due to some malfunction than due to some someone screwing up their unit trying to modify it.
My wife has her unit stock... no mods, no tweaks, just uses it the way it came. I have mine rooted, different launcher and tons of apps that I have loaded from Android Market or side loaded via other means. I think the device is great for the price.
People who use forums like this have a very skewed idea of how many people actually modify their devices... most never do, never know about it and don't even know forums like this.
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Exactly ... That's a well explained post
Yeah, companies lock bootloaders for concrete reasons. They are not going to all of a sudden lock the device down a month after it was released just to mess with modders. Because that is literally the only thing it would do.
The Nook Tablet, for instance... I believe the reason the bootloader is locked is because they had to as part of an agreement with Netflix to provide higher quality streaming to the device. B&N decided that annoying the tiny minority of modders was worth it in exchange for high quality Netflix streaming - something that a much larger percentage of users can benefit from and of course an extra marketing bullet point for them to use.
I'm fine with them updating the device. Look at all the Android phones that don't get regular updates. All people do is whine about NOT getting updated! The KF is some great hardware for the price but it still has issues. Touchscreen responsiveness still needs to be improved, battery life REALLY needs to be improved, and they have to fix the sleep of death as well. I will GLADLY go through the hassle of re-rooting and re-installing the market if these things are fixed.
Of course I'd prefer to have a custom ROM so I can get updates without having to redo all that stuff, but it's only a matter of time.
please, dear god, let non-rooted users change the lockscreen wallpaper
Is there a way yet to block OTA updates (that is also easy to reverse)?
Don't want to be caught with my pants down by this update if it does more than anticipated ....
andTab said:
Is there a way yet to block OTA updates (that is also easy to reverse)?
Don't want to be caught with my pants down by this update if it does more than anticipated ....
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Haven't read through it, but this post seems to cover it.
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please, dear god, let non-rooted users change the lockscreen wallpaper
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This. 10char
Also hoping for a clean re-root-only response to this update... I have it stowed away as a gift for my wife, and take it out at night to perform nerd-surgery. It would be great to not have issues right before holiday, as it's going to be enough fun explaining the different launchers, etc.
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Also hoping for a clean re-root-only response to this update... I have it stowed away as a gift for my wife, and take it out at night to perform nerd-surgery. It would be great to not have issues right before holiday, as it's going to be enough fun explaining the different launchers, etc.
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I have nothing to contribute to this, just lmfao at your analogy of what you do late at night. ;-)
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andTab said:
Is there a way yet to block OTA updates (that is also easy to reverse)?
Don't want to be caught with my pants down by this update if it does more than anticipated ....
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Not the best solution, but it's easy: turn off wireless.
You don't need a widget for this, but it's nice. I recently installed a power control widget ( I used Widgetsoid ) to allow me to turn off wireless ( as well as adjust brightness, volume, toggle USB, and turn off GPS ).
Since I'm mostly content with my setup for now, I leave the wireless turned off to conserve battery and avoid the next update. I'd rather wait until I hear from the good folks here that the next update is OKAY before I turn on wireless and let it update. In the meantime, if I need wireless, I can check here just to be sure there is no update waiting to be pushed, flip on the wireless, do what I need, then turn it back off.
Like I said, it's not the best solution, but it works for me, and it's really simple.
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Also hoping for a clean re-root-only response to this update... I have it stowed away as a gift for my wife, and take it out at night to perform nerd-surgery. It would be great to not have issues right before holiday, as it's going to be enough fun explaining the different launchers, etc.
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Let me ask you something- same situation here.. My wife's just came in the mail today. I'd like to know more about device setup before said "nerd surgery" as I want to do a similar thing.. Did you login with your own amazon account or hers? If I login w/ hers I don't want her to get a "Congrats on your Kindle registration" type of email- as this is a surprise after all.. But- I'm also thinking that if I go ahead and login w/ mine- anything I do as far as loading apps, etc will be wiped out when she has to login w/ hers?
Sorry to be long winded- overall my main question is- Whats the best way to tinker/root/play with this thing w/o giving away any surprises or having to re-do work?
I'd leave it in the box. When my wife's came, she wanted it right away. It auto registered to MY account, not hers. Didn't add anything to it, it just happened.
I had to deregister it and then reregister it to her account. Doing so is like a default reset.
Also, it is going to auto update at least once as they come with 6.1 and 6.2 is the current. Might even be 6.3 or whatever the new OTA is by the time she opens it.
Do you remember if she got an email when you deregistered and assigned it to her account?
Dont recall. I don't read her email so I don't know and I did a quick check of my email and don't see anything either...
I definitely got an email when I registered mine.
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