I have now NAND WP7, how can i put NAND Android on it ?
When booting up device hold down the power/end key button. You'll see a menu pop up and using the volume keys to navigate up and down, go to USB flasher, press the call key to go into USB flasher and connect your phone to the computer. STart up the android installer, and install. Do the install as an administrator. Also format your sd card with android or with panasonic formatter on the computer so that you get the full amount of space in your sd card, panasonic gives the best results however.
Kailkti , did you tried WP7 ?
Yes. As fluid, smooth and all the eye candy it had, it was too limited to my tastes.
Hm, what didn't you like in it , for example.
"it was too limited to my tastes"
no copy 'n paste and no access to filesystem are the mainreasons why i switched back to android. less settings, then winmo 6.5. wp7 llooks like an iphone alternative for girls.
As a note on the formatting: one of the easiest ways to do it is by simply putting it in a digital camera and having the camera format it.
i would stay on Wp7 just for his 720p
Can android record in 720p ?
Maybe limited is the wrong word. >.>
I guess there was too many turn offs for me, such as the camera, no flash player, video player with not much codec support, market load time/download/install was too long for me, not much good free games or apps (well not WP7's fault anyways), the black/white background, while pleasing to first time viewers, got boring to me as my zune hd got me used to such, browser was slower in comparison to android, and well I'm addicted to flashing. I love to try new things, like, every two days, at max, and because WP7 formats and partitions my sd in a way that i have to reformat it and put back all my files, it is a nuisance in that sense.
The good things are, in my view, 720p, music player and that the UI is fluid and smooth.
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Hey guys (and maybe girls?),
After about 8-9 of fighting with my phone, I've managed to install android on my HTC HD2. Now, I got this rom/version (I'm newb so.. I'll be more than glad for some explainations) I've found *HERE*.
So, the ptoblems are: SD Card is mounted to read-only mode, I can't take a picture, can't listen to music, run apps and so on.. after about 10min since booting android its becoming unmounted. What eles, thephone is super laggy, I can't run apps and games, and it's driving me crazy because I bought the phone for android and the only good OP worked on it is WM..
So, do I need the regular DESIRE build? or stick with DESIRE HD ones?
If there's a better build that what I've brought there, can I have the thread or download?
Another question, if I'm getting new SD Card (I got only 8GB for now, I need atleast 16GB for all my music, movies and stuff), I just need to copy all the things on the old one and everything will work properly? (after I'll switch a build ofcourse).
(Btw, sorry about grammer mistakes, it's morning over here ;])
THANKS!!
Up. Need it fast =\
Come on guys, I need it badly, I got school tomorrow and I got phone that's bearly works..
i have the same MDJ version and working quite good for me propably you need to format again your sd card
What class is your SD Card?
Not sure what the issue with the build is... you should try looking through the build thread. But if you bought this phone for android, you might as well install android to your nand (internal memory) with magldr... it will be much more like a real android phone that way. Just out of curiousity, why didn't you just buy a real android phone if you just wanted android? This phone take a decent amount of work and learning to get it to run as well as a native android phone... but for the price you can get the HD2 for sometimes, it can run android pretty well... but you have to be willing to put the hours in to read the forums and learn what you're doing.
Also, this section is for sd build development, not for question threads. Threads like this should be posted in thread you got the build from, or the Q&A/General section.
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What class is your SD Card?
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All good quality class2 sd cards also work with this build without problem!! But you could also try the others with class4 or class6. I think important thing is to test the cards with which cluster size they work best with this build. I have tested formatting different SD cards with 64kb, 32kb and 16kb cluster size. For me till now this build worked best with the 16kb cluster size. With 32kb and 64kb I had Lagg and freezes.
If you want to know how it worked best for me check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859817&page=502 post number #5016
Regards
CrunchEd.
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Hey guys (and maybe girls?),
After about 8-9 of fighting with my phone, I've managed to install android on my HTC HD2. Now, I got this rom/version (I'm newb so.. I'll be more than glad for some explainations) I've found *HERE*.
So, the ptoblems are: SD Card is mounted to read-only mode, I can't take a picture, can't listen to music, run apps and so on.. after about 10min since booting android its becoming unmounted. What eles, thephone is super laggy, I can't run apps and games, and it's driving me crazy because I bought the phone for android and the only good OP worked on it is WM..
So, do I need the regular DESIRE build? or stick with DESIRE HD ones?
If there's a better build that what I've brought there, can I have the thread or download?
Another question, if I'm getting new SD Card (I got only 8GB for now, I need atleast 16GB for all my music, movies and stuff), I just need to copy all the things on the old one and everything will work properly? (after I'll switch a build ofcourse).
(Btw, sorry about grammer mistakes, it's morning over here ;])
THANKS!!
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ptoblems with your SD Card is mounted to read-only mode.
You can do follow this to fix error:
1) Plug your SD Card to your computer by card reader
2) Open 'My Computer'
3) Right Click on the drive you want to run scandisk on and click on Properties
4) In the Properties window select the 'Tools' tab.
5) In the Error-checking section click on 'Check now' button.
6) Select from the options to customize your scan and click on 'Start' to run the scandisk.
7) Insert your SD card to your phone and run android
If i flash up to WP7 to give it a go, will the CWM i have installed stay on with MAGDLR, along with my back up?
note: i have a separate microSD for doing WP7, so the backup wont be touched(i believe it is saved on the SD card isnt it ?)
I ask since i would rather not loose my current install, but i want to give WP7 a whirl
CWM is also on the SD card, so yes, it's safe as long as you use a different SD card for WP7.
I've done this myself and it works with no problems
k, so:
1) Switch Card
2) Upgrade device to MAGDLR 1.12
3) Install WP7
4) ??
5) Profit?
on a side note, when i swap SD cards back, to go back to Androind i just go to MAGDLR menu, the top option, followed by going into the clockwork mod folder, then recovery?
As long as you've used CWM to already make a backup of your current ROM, then yes, that's it.
sweet, very good to know
on a side note- is WP7 worth it ?
Obviously, this is just an opinion, but I don't think it is.
I played with it for quite a while, giving it the benefit of the doubt, and I think it plays really well. The UI is slick and everything that is on there does seem to work REALLY well. The main problem I had with it was that I've got WhatsApp & Kik constantly running on Android, and I've got lots of friends with Android & iPhone, so we use those apps to chat. Apart from the fact that there's nothing like that on WP7 yet, you can't have them running in the background as they suspend. So there's no real way to use IM apps on the phone, unless that's the ONLY thing it does.
The second I found that out I started flashing back Android.
Also, because it's so new, the MarketPlace is a massive letdown when you're used to the Android Market. There's hardly anything on there, and what is on there has about 2 ratings and maybe 1 comment (which is usually slating it!)
Each to their own, obviously, but it's not for me, yet.
k, thats i figured, i dont do much IM on my phone, just been curious to try out WP7, and well this si the best way for me to do it nice to have an oppinion on it thanks mate
W.Feather said:
k, thats i figured, i dont do much IM on my phone, just been curious to try out WP7, and well this si the best way for me to do it nice to have an oppinion on it thanks mate
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No worries mate. Have fun
I hope Microsoft reads this, but I hope the developers can accomplish this, here are some ideas:
Have WP7 use internal memory for its main functions/rom, make the SD card available for programs, games, music, photos, videos etc...
This whole "making the sd as part of the phone" or striping data accros is way too sensitive. As I already experienced, this striping is very sensitive and the chain can easily be broken [as with a raid0(striping) storage system on a PC].
Also a ledgable partition to the os would be a plus (fat32, ntfs or even ext).
With this method the data on the sd card does not get lost each time the phone malfunctions/the storrage system gets disconected.
This is one of the major negative points with wp7, otherwise I really like it a lot, even for my business it just seems easier and better to navigat than wm 6.5.x.
What are other peoples thoughts??
Can the developer (if Microsoft refuses) accomlplish that???
P.s. Let me know ifmy threads are in the wrong Forum, but I thought both threads are valid ponts in regards to development and WP7 nand/rom issues.
OK, sorry for that, but I think maybe this one should be in the Q&A section??
If we get a future build that is
Usefull features
I do agree WP7 works great on HD2. There are some issues I would like to raise though:
1. I was unable to add custom TTF Fonts, like in WM6.5 to be able to read in Georgian.
2. Interactive USSD Feature does not work. That is, you can enable certain features that operator provides through *xxx# combination. I do not know if that works in original WP&, but in DFT release when the interactice menu comes up, the keyboard is locked, so there is no way to choose the desired option.
If anyone know answer to either issue please reply.
I dont think its a really big deal and it works the way they want it to, its almost like a hard drive that is built for the phone only. Microsoft will be releasing an updated WP7 that even includes the copy paste fuction. Maybe they can include the ability to send contacts, but since WP7 isnt open source I do not see any customization if much at all happening.
Except all the known issues, i'd like to have 2 improvement on the keyboard;
-Make the keyboard larger, there is some unused space on the right and left side of the keyboard.
-I'd like the keyboard to vibrate when buttons are pushed
i dont really think MS will see this
if you do want to give feedback find Windows phone on facebook or twitter where they have posted a short questionnaire and feedback box thats the place to do it
i dont really care about the SD card. Its one thing less to buy after you buy it. And this way you wont have any issues with damaging the card.
Windows Phone 7 wasnt designed for removable SD cards. It was intended for real internal storage though manufacturers went cheap for the first gen which is quite disappointing as if they used normal flash storage i think the performance would have been far better and the whole over blown deal with the SD card thing wouldn't have existed in the first place
evolutionqy7 said:
i dont really think MS will see this
if you do want to give feedback find Windows phone on facebook or twitter where they have posted a short questionnaire and feedback box thats the place to do it
i dont really care about the SD card. Its one thing less to buy after you buy it. And this way you wont have any issues with damaging the card.
Windows Phone 7 wasnt designed for removable SD cards. It was intended for real internal storage though manufacturers went cheap for the first gen which is quite disappointing as if they used normal flash storage i think the performance would have been far better and the whole over blown deal with the SD card thing wouldn't have existed in the first place
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I agree. 16gb of internal nand storage would be awesome and more reliable. An extra sd card would be cool also just so one can quickly copy/read pics and docs etc wihout having to install zune software.
ive been having quite a few major issues with WP7. its a shame because i do like it.
The main one being that every now and again it will restart by itself but sometimes it will do kind of a "hard reset" where everything goes back to factory settings, however if you restart it, it will go back to normal. i dont know if thats something to do with the SD card or something else??
ksingh86 said:
ive been having quite a few major issues with WP7. its a shame because i do like it.
The main one being that every now and again it will restart by itself but sometimes it will do kind of a "hard reset" where everything goes back to factory settings, however if you restart it, it will go back to normal. i dont know if thats something to do with the SD card or something else??
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This happened to me until I changed my SD card...
Well, I changed sd card and tried without. A full factory reset did the trick though. Seems like something weired is going on with the internal storage (I did a factory reset flashing from sd card).
My biggest concerns about wp7
1- No Copy and Paste
2- No fast multitask (like alt+tab)
3- No T9 dialpad
But the biggest is:
4- NO GOOGLE CONTACTS GOOD SYNC. Many of my contacts have multiple cellphones, and WP7 (also wm6.x) doesn't recognize them... Does anyone have an workaround?
5- Few medical apps (no Skyscape, Epocrates, or offline Uptodate...)
6- No apps folder...
Hope MS is watching this post!
OK, just picked up the Nook Color last night. It's v1.2.0 in its settings, and apparently a blue-dot version (since it only has 1.0 GB free space in its settings panel).
I picked this up because I wanted to make it a low-end cost-effective android tablet.
I'm already getting a bit confused with all the stuff flying around - I read some post that says you don't need to root these things, that you just format/flash right over the existing - more posts talking about how its next to impossible to brick these, other posts talking about bootable SDs, and some other posts talking about ManualNooter for rooting. THen I happened to stumble onto the whole "blue-dot" business.
My questions are fairly simple. I want a low-end android tablet that I can get stuff from the Market (or side-load) and play Netflix videos. I have a 4GB SD card in it now, that's free and empty that I can use to make flashable bootable whatnots.
Do I root? Do I repartition this blue-dot business first? Can some people chime in with exactly what I should be doing? I see things about rooting, I see things about bootable CWM SD cards, (different sizes for different SD cards, but golly if you're blue-dot, get the 1GB eyeballer somethingorother) and it's getting a bit much.
I have an Evo 4G that I've rooted and flashed ROMs, and know my way around CWM for that. I'm not a total noob to this.
I just want to make sure I have my ducks in a row. If I don't need to root, why is there manualNooter? I guess I'd just like to get an android OS going on there (CM7?) that will let me play netflix and get market apps and such. What's the shortest/easiest path to this, and should I repartition first?
edit: as a follow up - can I just install CM7 onto an SD card and always boot from that? Do I have to mess at all with NC's internal business? That would be handier, I think - if possible. I just read that it looks possible in the comments here:
http://www.linux-mag.com/id/8553/
In reading this:
http://quinxy.com/guides/how-to-pick-your-nook-color-operating-system-and-install-options/
I think I want to go the OS on SD-Card option. It protects the warranty, and I can keep it "safe" for now.
Wifflepig said:
In reading this:
http://quinxy.com/guides/how-to-pick-your-nook-color-operating-system-and-install-options/
I think I want to go the OS on SD-Card option. It protects the warranty, and I can keep it "safe" for now.
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If that's your decision, which is the same one I made, this is what I learned here:
-The MicroSD card itself can make running android a wonderful experience, or a torurous nightmare of force close issues on everything. All cards are not made equal. You probably want a SanDisk brand card, test your card with Crystal Disk Mark, and read Here and Here for more information on that part of it.
-I am running this Phiremod 6.2 image, dualboot between phiremod and honeycomb. You can just run it by default on the more stable phiremod without ever going into honeycomb if you want. I haven't updated it to phiremod 6.3 yet as the thread gives you the option for, 6.2 runs very well.
A rock solid package that works fantastically well, make sure to thank the people who made it if you like it - you can tell it's a labor of love by how nice it is.
Also, make sure that the battery is charged all the way to full the first time you put your custom SD card in.
To make the custom card:
-put it in your computer, fresh format if possible/necessary
-use WinImage to burn the image to the MicroSD card.
-use EASEUS partition software to extend the /sdcard partition to use the rest of the unallocated space on your MicroSD card.
...and that's really all there is to it. It can get confusing out there with so many options and configuration choices.
You may end up deciding that you like something better, but for a "no strings attached" look at android on the Nook color the image and tools I just linked are a good place to start.
Besides preserving your stock Nook color as-is, running from the sdcard lets you have a couple of different cards with different installs, and swapping between them is as easy as turning the Nook off and then back on again.
While the Nook is booted to it's stock configuration, you can plug it into your computer and transfer whatever you want drag and drop style into the internal memory of the device. When you reboot the Nook into your android sdcard install, you can use a file manager to browse to it and use it. No hassle pictures, music and etc... transfer to your android device.
The google market app "dual file manager" by medieval software is free and great for running back and forth between the internal and sdcard memory.
Also, for an sdcard install, get the google market app "sd speed increase" by diego stamigni. It absolutely makes a noticable difference in running android from the sdcard.
Two last app recommendations are both paid google market apps, but:
The "nook color power button" by otis8 provides you with an on-screen icon that emulates the hardware power button on the side of your nook. I have a case that covers mine, and a lot of searching led to this answer. You may or may not need it, but if you do this is the right answer.
"thumb keyboard" by beansoft, has completely changed my Nook experience in ways I didn't realize needed changing until I used it. The split keyboard makes thumb typing so much easier. The arrow keys I always seem to need were why I wanted a new keyboard, but with the customizable buttons and layout options available through this app...it was worth every last penny spent on it.
Every time I type something on the Nook, I am so glad I got this keyboard.
That should be enough to get you started, just make sure that if you install the image I reference above:
-After it boots into android the first time, let it sit and don't touch it for about 5 minutes. The first time it runs, it has to configure itself on the sdcard, which you don't see happening on the screen. A little bit fo patience this one time can eliminate some possible problems in the future.
-Log into and activate the google market from the app icon on the home screen first. If you delete this icon from the home screen, you may lose market on this install and have to either do something funky to get it back, or re-image the sdcard.
There is so much great information here, I was amazed and overwhelmed when I first started looking into it. This place has taught me so much in so little time - I love it here.
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One last thing is, I don't know anything about blue dot, i've only seen it in passing. My nook is updated to 1.2 stock. You should be ok, but make sure to read the thread of the image you download to make sure.
...and... by keeping your stock nook, you don't have a problem that others might. If using windows, an imaged sdcard can't be just formatted back to it's full capacity. Windows only reads the first small partition as the whole card.
If you boot the nook into it's stock software, and then insert the sdcard, the stock nook will let you format it right back to it's standard capacity and remove all the custom partitions on it.
Then all you have to do is pop the card out, put it in your computer, and burn a new image to it.
Just for opinions really ...
So Which is best WP7 or Android on hd2,
Would say WM6.5 but I hate it!
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Usability, graphics, performance...
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i would prefer the android ROM, especially GB. smooth and fast for daily use.
coz i have got experience with W7..there's so much lock app or sometimes app/gall is locked too..
but, it's depend on what you need of course..
I was jumping between Nodo and Gingerbread for over a month, as soon as I installed one I missed the other. Then Mango came out and I could no longer decide, so had them both. Now I have Mango and Ice Cream Sandwich. I am still not sure what I would keep if given a choice of only one.
My biggest bug with WP7.5 was inability to transfer .pdf files to be used with Acrobat reader. You could get the reader, but when it came to files it was a whole different scenario, as Zune transfers only media and photos, so there were suggestions of drop box, e-mailing yourself (yeah, the entire library), etc. Now there is a program that gets your files (I believe any files) loaded through USB and my WP7.5 is a lot more useful.
Android is a lot more democratic when playing videos. Full stop. Zune is too finicky with what it wants to play and the whole connect and synchronise routine can't win against the simplicity of plug and drop. So I have 65 movies on my Android and none on my Mango. Mango, however, has my entire collection of family photos from 2002 - all sorted by dates and readily available, my Facebook albums, my friends' albums and whatever else I might need to keep up with anyone I care about.
Mango takes better HD videos and I enjoy just sharing photos on Facebook, including tags and updates. Android allows you to use any tune as a ringtone, the procedure for WP7 is hellish nightmare for uninitiated.
I liked Mango's Zune player, so got it installed on Android, I liked WP7 keyboard with its uncanny word accuracy and prediction - same thing (in fact, after trying a whole lot of keyboards, I think none beats the one that came with WP7, not even in the same league). Even Metro messaging UI was ported over.
Social networking integration, however, places Mango way ahead of Android. The whole concept of People Hub, Pictures, Calendar, Me etc - perfect. And is the biggest reason I like Mango so much.
As far as games and apps - I like Sam, the Personal Assistant. It's similar to Iphone's Siri and I wish WP7 could get one just like it. Navigation, Google Goggles, Places etc - Android, games - Mango. Otherwise apps are more or less evenly spread, depending on your needs, of course. Other e-book format and readers - definitely Android, music - Mango. Zune got all my albums properly arranged, the album art was readily available and all the information was added perfectly well.
I never experienced any problems with Mango, but I did have occasional freezes and mishaps with Android. But then again, I am running Android off SD, the ICS is still in development, so it would be unfair to say Android is to blame.
I guess I got you even more confused now than when you started What I am trying to say is both are great, Android is perhaps a bit more versatile at the moment, but WP7 is catching up fast. Can't wait to see the next incarnation.
I would agree that Mango seems more stable as I was just out and about this evening trying the ICS-4.0.3-CM9-build15 I installed on my HD2 recently but I must admit it did hang and freeze on numerous occasions. I was taking loads of pics of Plymouth harbour and the gallery froze and had to be shutdown then Google maps blacked the screen which was annoying cos I was using it to find my way back to the bus! What was more annoying was that I didn't have the other sd card that I use when booting WP7.5!!
On that subject, any of you guys running HD2O_WP7_1.26_LEO71_8107_ WP7.5 off NAND with ICS-4.0.3-CM9-build15 using the same SD card? I have tried everything to get this to work but everytime I have gone through the procedure, easeus partition etc etc everything boots fine BUT Android says 'please install an SD card' it can't somehow read the SD card which it has just booted off!! The only way I can get the ICS to work is if I use a separate SD which I have formatted using sdformatter.
Pity cos I would love to have both on the phone at the same time without having to change the SD.
Olly
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I would agree that Mango seems more stable as I was just out and about this evening trying the ICS-4.0.3-CM9-build15 I installed on my HD2 recently but I must admit it did hang and freeze on numerous occasions. I was taking loads of pics of Plymouth harbour and the gallery froze and had to be shutdown then Google maps blacked the screen which was annoying cos I was using it to find my way back to the bus! What was more annoying was that I didn't have the other sd card that I use when booting WP7.5!!
On that subject, any of you guys running HD2O_WP7_1.26_LEO71_8107_ WP7.5 off NAND with ICS-4.0.3-CM9-build15 using the same SD card? I have tried everything to get this to work but everytime I have gone through the procedure, easeus partition etc etc everything boots fine BUT Android says 'please install an SD card' it can't somehow read the SD card which it has just booted off!! The only way I can get the ICS to work is if I use a separate SD which I have formatted using sdformatter.
Pity cos I would love to have both on the phone at the same time without having to change the SD.
Olly
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My guess would be your card is to blame. Although I am running BTTF + Tytung's latest ICS 1.4. Went through 3 cards with 2 just dying within 2 weeks of operation and constant problems with either WP7.5 or Android not booting, restarting etc. Finally I went with San Disk and the problems magically disappeared.
I never go through Easeus partitioning because BTTF provides storage unlock and partitioning .cab, I just unlocked, partitioned to have 10Gb for Mango and 20Gb for ICS, never looked back.
Windows phone 7 is smoother, but of course has less going on in the background, and also has better social network integration, while Android has the overwhelming edge when it comes to apps, but that users would likely be happy with either on their HTC HD2.
But I think Android is the best phone OS going right now.....
just android
I would move to WP7, if only the battery drain problem would be properly fixed.
Since that's not happening, I have a nice and smooth GB rom on my HD2 as a daily driver.
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My guess would be your card is to blame. Although I am running BTTF + Tytung's latest ICS 1.4. Went through 3 cards with 2 just dying within 2 weeks of operation and constant problems with either WP7.5 or Android not booting, restarting etc. Finally I went with San Disk and the problems magically disappeared.
I never go through Easeus partitioning because BTTF provides storage unlock and partitioning .cab, I just unlocked, partitioned to have 10Gb for Mango and 20Gb for ICS, never looked back.
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What are u using in place of Easeus? I thought the WP7 had to be larger according the video on Pdaimatejam ROM. Are you partitioning before you install the ROM? Maybe you can send a link to the forum your reading
maybe this
I think what she's does is she installs WP7 first then unlocks the sd card (this there's a tut here somewhere) then she partitions the unlocked sd card for android
lets have enigma1nz confirm this