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Whenever i'm connected to WiFi, is that what my net goes through?

Never used wi-fi on a phone before. Once i'm connected to my local wi-fi, is that what the internet goes through and i won't be using my data usage or do i need to do something to make sure it's running through wi-fi and not using my usage?

yup once you are on wifi the data connection logo should disappear and all traffic should be via the wifi connection.
try downloading 3g watchdog from the market to keep track of data usage. its really useful.. for me anyway
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Noob question about data setting

Hi guys,
Got my HD yesterday...love it x100000. My first android so im still getting to grips with it all but what a fantastic phone.
Anyway my question is just about the data connection set up. I was just looking through the settings making sure everything is how I like it and I stumbled across this:
Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile Networks and at the bottom there is an option which says 'Enable always-on mobile data'.
What is this and what does it mean? It says it uses more power on some mobile networks so do I turn it on or turn it off?
I have a wifi and mobile network widget on my home screen cause I like to be able to turn them on and off quickly.
If someone could just explain to me exactly what this setting is and whether I need it on or off.
Thanks a lot

This is your 3g connection. You should switch it off when you're not using it as it's a battery drainer. The always on option is good if you're waiting for a lstge ota update ir something similar and you have an unlimited data cobtract.
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pwraggcan said:
This is your 3g connection. You should switch it off when you're not using it as it's a battery drainer. The always on option is good if you're waiting for a lstge ota update ir something similar and you have an unlimited data cobtract.
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I see, but the thing is if I have Enable always-on data yet I have a mobile network widget on my home screen and I turn it off what is actually on?
I have sort of interpreted this always-on setting as:
If you have you mobile (3g) network turned on and have the always-on setting on, then when your phone goes into sleep mode the 3g connection is maintained and apps can still sync whilst your phone is locked/sleeping.
If you have your mobile network (3g) turned on but have the always-on setting turned off then whenever you lock your phone and it goes into sleep mode it is no longer connected to the 3g network and apps and stuff cannot sync (unless you're on wifi obviously). And as soon as you unlock the phone it will reconnect to the 3g network.
And turning the mobile network off from the widget or in settings overrides the always on setting.
Like I said this is only my interpretation of this setting...I've searched google and found almost nothing concrete about it just some opinions and I have searched through the full user manual for the desire HD and this setting has no mention.
So what do you think? Anyone else have any knowledge of this setting?

im not sure about this but i think it means that it doesnt connect, disconnect, connect again whenever you open or close the internet. its always connected, but not always active, so its faster to start up. its like leaving your wifi on all the time. theres always a connection but its not always passing data.
i leave mine always on because it doesnt eat much battery and it makes connecting over 3g much faster.

Does the DroidX bridge network connections?

If I have just my cell radio enabled, then I enable the WiFi - does the phone disable the data on the cell radio, or leave both enabled?
If both are enabled, then is it bridged or not? In other words, when I have my WiFi on, will I get the speed of my WifI + Cell service?
If the data connection is not bridged, then it seems pretty silly to have WiFi options on location apps, like Latitude, since this means that if you lose the WiFi connection, the phone will not know to switch back to the cell data connection.

No when wifi is enabled the phone has no use for 3g so it disables it until u turn wifi off. Oh and I use an app called quick settings from the market cause u can manually turn off everything with it and makes ur battery last way longer too
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Atrix Google Market Activates HSPA+ Data While on Wifi, Causes Wifi to Stop Working

UPDATE: When comparing to my coworker's phone (who doesn't have this problem), we went through all settings/etc and matched them up exactly. The only major difference between our two phones was that I was running Launcher Pro. When I uninstalled it, this problem went away completely. HSPA+ did get activated in the Google Market, but it didn't hinder my browsing experience. Anyone else having this issue, are you running Launcher Pro? And if so, if you uninstall it, does it fix the problem?
I know that there is an ongoing issue that Motorola is looking into concerning HSPA+ data connectivity dropping out. This is not that issue.
Here's the scenario:
- Atrix 4G purchased on release date
- Using 4G SIM card
- No SIM unlocks
- Have 4Gig Tethering plan
- Set to AT&T US HSDPA APN (have tried AT&T US Tether and AT&T US wap.cingular)
- Connected to Wifi
- Issue occurred prior to rooting and after rooting.
- Issue has occurred since day 1 of using device.
Issue: Launching Google Market and browsing around will eventually start showing connection timeouts, typically after looking in a few app descriptions.
What I notice:
- When connected to wifi, the cell data connection gets turned off (i.e. the grey up/down arrows are no longer showing). I assume this is how it is supposed to work (since if on wifi, no need for cell data connection).
- When launching the Google Market application, and after browsing for a few seconds, I notice the cell data connection doing something (grey arrows come back, and then will briefly show black arrows, then back to grey).
- Once the issue occurs, I attempt to browse in Dolphin or even the XDA application, and it doesn't connect.
- Turning wifi off then back on fixes wifi until I try Google Market again.
- Turning cell data off allows Google Market to work fine with no issue.
Thoughts:
- It seems that when connected to wifi, the cell data connection should be getting overridden regardless.
- Somehow Google Market is causing the cell data connection to activate and messing up wifi
- This happened on a 3G SIM and a 4G SIM (so it doesn't seem like a connection problem, simply a software issue)
- I have a coworker who has an Atrix as well and does not have this problem when connected to wifi
- I have other devices connected to the same wifi without issue (thus not a wifi router issue)
Any and all help is truly appreciated and thank you in advance!

Nice first post and seems pretty accurate. I switched on airplane mode and then just enabled wifi to test this out and had a zen-like market experience. Not a single hang up. Hopefully this will help lead to a fix. Thanks.

Have you tried switching off your data connection before connecting to wifi?

I had a similar issue where my wifi would be on simultaneously with my data connection so I just hit airplane mode whil wifi was on that turned off both wifi and data then I re-enabled wifi (airplane mode still on) waited for it to connect then I turned airplane mode off. Never had the issue again
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Hopefully motorola looks into this as this is my only true gripe at the moment. I go to dl an app and it stops at a random percentage, I go back into market and see the app is paused. I cancel and Redownload and usually works. I also get a timeout error almost every time I go into market and have to choose retry or close.

bl0wf1sh said:
Have you tried switching off your data connection before connecting to wifi?
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Turning off data connection does solve the problem, however that is only a stop-gap and I have to leave the data connection off (then remember to turn it back on when I leave my wifi area). No other application I use has this issue, so I would expect it's a software problem, but it doesn't seem to affect every Atrix owner.
drock212 said:
I had a similar issue where my wifi would be on simultaneously with my data connection so I just hit airplane mode whil wifi was on that turned off both wifi and data then I re-enabled wifi (airplane mode still on) waited for it to connect then I turned airplane mode off. Never had the issue again
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Yeah I've done that too, sadly it still crops up for me.
skillz9669 said:
Hopefully motorola looks into this as this is my only true gripe at the moment. I go to dl an app and it stops at a random percentage, I go back into market and see the app is paused. I cancel and Redownload and usually works. I also get a timeout error almost every time I go into market and have to choose retry or close.
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Exactly, those are my experiences as well when on wifi with cell data not explicitly turned off.

UPDATE: Turns out that when factory resetting, the market app when first run works perfectly (doesn't try to activate cell data when on wifi). The problem is that the market app auto-updates to a version that has this problem.
Here's hoping for a fix soon. Thankfully Juice Defender gives me an automatic way to handle the cell data issue since when it detects it's on wifi, it turns off cell data so I don't have to.

Update
I posted an update in the original post. It seems Launcher Pro was the culprit.

turn off data when on wifi?

Will I save battery to turn off data when I am on wifi? Is there any toggle that will turn on wifi and turn off data at the same time?

DandroidT said:
Will I save battery to turn off data when I am on wifi? Is there any toggle that will turn on wifi and turn off data at the same time?
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Um, you could use Tasker...
But technically Mobile Data is disabled when you have an Active WiFi Connection..
Its still functions for MMS and such though. (I think, maybe it downloads those via the WiFi Connection also, have not looked into it before)
But yeah, Not really going to save any battery, since mobile data should not be used anyways when you have an active wifi connection

When you are on WiFi, the cell towers will never get used for data. You will still be connected to them for receiving phone calls, but that should not be a big battery drain. The phone battery has enough power to keep stay in standby mode for a week. The WiFi data will take many more times the amount of power.
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DandroidT said:
Will I save battery to turn off data when I am on wifi? Is there any toggle that will turn on wifi and turn off data at the same time?
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It will save some battery. You want to look into an app named Tasker. You can basically write rules that perform this and many other tasks. There is a bit of a learning curve to the app though.

Data connection is automatically disabled when you are using WiFi. If you are connected through WiFi, you will notice that there is no G or H or anything on the signal bars.