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Is Samsung just going to skip froyo and go straight to gingerbread for our device?
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I hope not. That would mean another 6 months of waiting once Gingerbread releases
You can get Froyo here! http://www.tuttifruttimd.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/
is froyo a priority? it took the evo a few months to get it why do ya think we are getting it sooner?
I highly highly doubt our Epics will ever even see Gingerbread. Officially at least.
from a epic Galaxy far, far away.
Gingerbread if it all will be atleast 6 months away. They will give us froyo for sure, and worst case scenario it will be christmas at latest. Most likely we will see it in november. This is all based on rumour and speculation though.
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You can get Froyo here! http://www.tuttifruttimd.com/
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Lol That was epic!
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/
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Engadget was wrong in that article and, shamefully, still has not corrected it. The mistake was debunked in this thread here, in other xda threads, and all over the Internet.
Some commenters, shamefully, do not search before posting, so they perpetuate the old misinformation. Bad enough that the OP never should have started this thread in the first place. Now it is spreading not only his speculatative BS about Gingerbread, but also Engadget's factual mistakes about Froyo.
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Some commenters, shamefully, do not search before posting, so they perpetuate the old misinformation. Bad enough that the OP never should have started this thread in the first place. Now it is spreading not only his speculatative BS about Gingerbread, but also Engadget's factual mistakes about Froyo.
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Engadget, Gizmodo, and Techcrunch have never been known for their high standards in journalistic accuracy. Most sites covering Android sites are more or less blogs. Heck, even large companies these days don't get their stories right a lot of the time.
But going back to the point, it seems that with Samsung, updating does not appear to be a priority, despite the sales figures for the Galaxy S series (all variants).
I imagine that the Epic may even be the last phone because it is the most different - with the 4G, hardware keyboard, flash, and notification light. The world edition will be the first one, because of its user base (in fact an update has already been rolled out but was later pulled due to bugs).
Be Patient
Perhaps Samsung & Sprint want to make sure that FroYo is an "Epic" experience.
Before I got my Epic, I tried a Captivate. The wireless client was broken and would not work on some networks. I also could not adjust to the virtual keyboard.
I was concerned when I got my epic, but the wireless client had been fixed. My coworkers with Captivates are still broken. I understand that FroYo was released with wireless issues that have affected corporate users. (See "support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7f71ff06702e39e1" from google's site)
Maybe Sprint wants to learn from the mistakes of others and get it right on the first try.
Sorry for the strange link - new user here.
Froyos rolling out in the UK right now. It's gonna take a month for it to complete, and we should be next.
Edit: Sorry for the double post, some one posted as I was typing.
www.androidcentral.com/froyo-pushing-out-galaxy-s-phones-uk-right-about-now
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Froyos rolling out in the UK right now. It's gonna take a month for it to complete, and we should be next.
Edit: Sorry for the double post, some one posted as I was typing.
www.androidcentral.com/froyo-pushing-out-galaxy-s-phones-uk-right-about-now
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Ya shouldn't be long now
oh my god, a froyo thread with a REAL information and not total speculation! will pigs fly next!?
pigs have flown i has seen them.
Don't look up though, they'll poop on your head.
So itll take another month and then we might get it? So we are looking at another full month before it even begins in the US? Thats interesting. Im curious as to what is so different between the UK/US versions that they need a whole month more to get it ready....if this hardware wasnt so awesome i might be tired enough of the update game to dust off my nexua. Hell by the time the vibrant gets froyo my nexus may very well have gingerbread and then ebay will he my vibrants new home. Its starting to look as though all the samsung android customers were right all along to warn against getting a samsung device....when I had my g1, mt3g, and nexus, all through those I recall reading so much about how bad Samsung is about updates. But their phones blew so it didn't really resonate with me. But my wife got a vibrant and I was happy to get the free one that came with it because the hardware is definitely a step above my n1, the vibrants camera is as good as advertised.
But I wonder how many galaxy s owners had previously owned Samsung phones. Because Samsung owners are always complaining (rightfully so) about all the delays, and here I join them. So even though the galaxy s is selling out of its mind, Samsung is still dragging its feet on updates. I for one wont buy another Samsung unless its so far ahead of the game that I can't get a comparable HTC. So even though they are breaking sales records, I wonder what samsungs repeat business statistics look like. Because there are only so many people left for Samsung to alienate, these sales figures might really be misleading regarding potential if. Afterall froyo isnt a maintenance update we are waiting for spped, adobe flash and more, its a serious update and by the looks of it, if and when we do get it, gingerbread will just he released. I am uncomfortable with a phone that is an entire update period behind, makes me kinda anxious. I think with all the competition, delaying updates can really hurt a company's reputation. Aside from some glaring design negligence (camera flash, no trackball/pad, volume buttons directly opposite power button(counterintuitve/awkward to press one without pressing the other), and no extra mic for background noise, this phone is an absolute beast, with tweaks it could be the most powerful hardware until the next galaxy s phone, i love having all this power. But remaining so far behind the software will really start becoming noticeable even to the novice, as features are advertised for newer software on newer devices and people wonder why they don't have the features even though they ostensibly have the software...
OK yea so I just ranted and wasted several valuabke minutes of your life. In turn I hope you will all feel free to waste my time on this forum any time you'd like to ; )
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pigs have flown i has seen them.
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Fu*k it free Bacon.
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Free bacon? Try and catch a flying pig, its impossible much like gps for eugenes froyo. Greasy little pigs
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I hope someone can rip the GPS drivers from it and bake a ROM early.
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So itll take another month and then we might get it? So we are looking at another full month before it even begins in the US? Thats interesting. Im curious as to what is so different between the UK/US versions that they need a whole month more to get it ready....if this hardware wasnt so awesome i might be tired enough of the update game to dust off my nexua....
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Yep. Samsung sucks.
I might dump mine and dust off my 3Gs, and wait to see the new hardware with Gingerbread.
Tired of the update wait, tired of the crappy battery life.
BTW, Gingerbread is about to be out -- I never thought it will be out before the Galaxy S got bumped to Froyo. So much for a flagship.
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Yep. Samsung sucks.
I might dump mine and dust off my 3Gs, and wait to see the new hardware with Gingerbread.
Tired of the update wait, tired of the crappy battery life.
BTW, Gingerbread is about to be out -- I never thought it will be out before the Galaxy S got bumped to Froyo. So much for a flagship.
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What sucks is that Gingerbread, yet rumored is supposed to launch this month yet. It's sad that we don't have Froyo yet and yet there's talk of Gingerbread launching. The "Nexus 2" was the only phone as of yet to come with Gingerbread though isn't it? (might be others..) Still sucks we are waiting for 2.2 yet the MT2G has froyo and the Droid Series does.
The rumored date for Gingerbread is Nov15, maybe we will get 2.3 instead of 2.2 =D Wishful thinking.
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What sucks is that Gingerbread, yet rumored is supposed to launch this month yet. It's sad that we don't have Froyo yet and yet there's talk of Gingerbread launching. The "Nexus 2" was the only phone as of yet to come with Gingerbread though isn't it? (might be others..) Still sucks we are waiting for 2.2 yet the MT2G has froyo and the Droid Series does.
The rumored date for Gingerbread is Nov15, maybe we will get 2.3 instead of 2.2 =D Wishful thinking.
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The fact that a Samsung phone is getting Gingerbread first makes me a LOT less worried about getting it on our Vibrants soon. It should be much easier to port.
So the wait for FROYO has taken a while. I expect the wait for Gingerbread to be a lot shorter.
And everyone that's so frustrated with not having FroYo is frustrated...why? I assume all of you are running totally stock phones without any kind of modifications whatsoever?
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And everyone that's so frustrated with not having FroYo is frustrated...why? I assume all of you are running totally stock phones without any kind of modifications whatsoever?
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I'm running stock with root and removed the bloatware.
I'm more frustrated at the fact at how much time it's taken to push the update. Samsung promised we would get 2.2, didn't say when, but did say we would get it. Yet we are going on 4 months now and "possbily" getting it Nov-Dec?
I love the phone, but the JI6 destroyed the battery life, that's my only problems. GPS is okay, still needs fixes but hopefully that will come.
I just want Samsung to support the damn device and not screw us. Watch, the UK Galaxy S will get Froyo and when time comes for us to "have it" they'll pull the switch-a-roo and say "Oops, it doesn't work so you won't get the 2.2".
For a phone that sold millions its pretty ****ty of Samsung to not be updating their **** fast enough.
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I'm running stock with root and removed the bloatware.
I'm more frustrated at the fact at how much time it's taken to push the update. Samsung promised we would get 2.2, didn't say when, but did say we would get it. Yet we are going on 4 months now and "possbily" getting it Nov-Dec?
I love the phone, but the JI6 destroyed the battery life, that's my only problems. GPS is okay, still needs fixes but hopefully that will come.
I just want Samsung to support the damn device and not screw us. Watch, the UK Galaxy S will get Froyo and when time comes for us to "have it" they'll pull the switch-a-roo and say "Oops, it doesn't work so you won't get the 2.2".
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If JI6 "destroyed your battery life," just flash the JI2 modem.
according to Samsung...we will have froyo by the end of the year. I follow Galaxyssupport on twitter. That account is official tech support account for our phones and I asked yesterday about the updates. They stated that we would have our updates by the end of the year
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If Froyo isn't made available before the rumored Nexus Two I'm selling off my Vibrant and getting it! I want the improved bluetooth support, JIT, arabic support, improved battery life, etc now!
Hey everyone, so this is probably the best evidence to date that we are going to be getting froyo very soon. Sprint is giving froyo over the air right now as we speak. I know that froyo for our vibrant has been beaten to death with a stick on these forums, but I think this is actually the first Real sign that we are getting this bad boy before the new year. Right? I mean they most likely have to have the u.s. Galaxy lines updates at about the same time, no? Anyways , just wanted to spread some christmas cheer
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This is ridiculous, the vibrant was the first galaxy device in the US but will be the last to get Froyo. At this point I don't really care, I've been running Froyo for weeks anywase. Just another reason my beloved Tmobile is in last place and that will never change.
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This is ridiculous, the vibrant was the first galaxy device in the US but will be the last to get Froyo. At this point I don't really care, I've been running Froyo for weeks anywase. Just another reason my beloved Tmobile is in last place and that will never change.
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screw the epic 4g.....we get some cyanogenmod before them. they fail
The best and only evidence was the leaked jk6. And it's still not quite ready. So, I bet it will be a couple of weeks, at least.
yep, let down by tmobile and samsung both. but at this point i think we have tmobile to blame.
t mobile was the first US galaxy and i think the Epic was the last, now the epic gets official froyo first...
oh well, ive had it for a couple weeks, but I think we should offically have it by then
Leaks are basically final, im running jk6 now. Official won't be any different..
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yep, let down by tmobile and samsung both. but at this point i think we have tmobile to blame.
t mobile was the first US galaxy and i think the Epic was the last, now the epic gets official froyo first...
oh well, ive had it for a couple weeks, but I think we should offically have it by then
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The Fascinate was the last but I understand your point.
I think this is the order of release is:
1 Vibrant
2 Captivate
3 Epic
4 Fascinate
A little disappointed by T-Mobile. We were the first to get the GS phones in the States and will be the last to get Froyo... (officially).
I said it in another thread, (mentioned above too..) that JK6 will probably be T-Mo's final revision of Froyo the Vibrant.
I agree that both samsumg and tmobile are not doing a good job on upgrading these phones.At this point I can guarantee that I will not continue with either of these two companies after my contact expires,BUT back to the point I made earlier, there is no way it will take more then a week or two for tmobile to upgrade, I think this is def the sign I have been waiting for.
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The Epic 4G has a watered down version of TouchWiz.
2.2.1 means JK6 is NOT final, at least it should mean that.. the Epic got 2.2.1 first right?
Seeing as the Epic just got 2.2, I wouldn't put this on TMo. Samsung said we'd have 2.2 in September, then in November, and now it's December when the first SGS derivative gets anything. That isn't a carrier issue, it's Sammy.
I'm not leaving TMo, but I think I'm heading back to HTC after this experience. (Unless I get suckered into the Nexus S, which means I can get Sammy's great hardware and leave the software to Big G.)
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Seeing as the Epic just got 2.2, I wouldn't put this on TMo. Samsung said we'd have 2.2 in September, then in November, and now it's December when the first SGS derivative gets anything. That isn't a carrier issue, it's Sammy.
I'm not leaving TMo, but I think I'm heading back to HTC after this experience. (Unless I get suckered into the Nexus S, which means I can get Sammy's great hardware and leave the software to Big G.)
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T-Mobile has it's own custom firmware for the Vibrant. Have you played with an Epic? It's clearly not the same firmware.
Same for the Captivate and Fascinate.
2.2 rolled out overseas already for the international version, it's being held up by certain carriers but it IS out.
What could be the hold up besides the carrier differences between firmware?
HTC is no better, the Desire still has 2.1 on certain carriers because it was released on more than one. The Incredible and Evo are phones that got updated very quickly but it's new behavior for HTC and very much not across the entire line of their phones.
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HTC is better because you get Cyanogen's mods on it very quickly. Like some others, I'm very happy (for the most part) with the hardware, but upset with Samsung about the speed of updates. Samsung is joing Sony-Ericsson in the list of phone manufacturers I won't nuy from any more. Unless I can get software updates directly from Nexus S. The G2 with worse specs than the Vibrant, runs circles around it.
Obviously all carriers have their own firmware. But Samsung has been **** at getting 2.2 sorted. I honestly don't care, since 2.1 works fine (I'd much rather they junk RFS for etx2, than get some colored icons in the settings menu) - but the principle is that they suck at firmware. Regardless as to the differences the Epic has, it's in the SGS line, and 2.2 dropped a damn year ago - 2.3 is out in the next week, if not Monday.
And it's not like all of the world has 2.2 on their SGS - many places still don't have it.
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Seeing as the Epic just got 2.2, I wouldn't put this on TMo. Samsung said we'd have 2.2 in September, then in November, and now it's December when the first SGS derivative gets anything. That isn't a carrier issue, it's Sammy.
I'm not leaving TMo, but I think I'm heading back to HTC after this experience. (Unless I get suckered into the Nexus S, which means I can get Sammy's great hardware and leave the software to Big G.)
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Obviously all carriers have their own firmware. But Samsung has been **** at getting 2.2 sorted. I honestly don't care, since 2.1 works fine (I'd much rather they junk RFS for etx2, than get some colored icons in the settings menu) - but the principle is that they suck at firmware. Regardless as to the differences the Epic has, it's in the SGS line, and 2.2 dropped a damn year ago - 2.3 is out in the next week, if not Monday.
And it's not like all of the world has 2.2 on their SGS - many places still don't have it.
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This is how I feel all the way to th the T... but don't really think I will ever lean towards sammy unless its for a camerae on a tv I came from a G1 and didn't really have any complaints I mean I knew what it had internal for hardware so I knew what I could expect Ill leave at that rant.
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This is how I feel all the way to th the T... but don't really think I will ever lean towards sammy unless its for a camerae on a tv I came from a G1 and didn't really have any complaints I mean I knew what it had internal for hardware so I knew what I could expect Ill leave at that rant.
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I also came from G1 ago I understand what your saying. I love the hardware on the Vibrant. It if top of the line quality. The software is where the problem lies. It's just too laggy. I know I can root and get voodoo lag fix, but I rather run stock. I've rooted the Vibrant once (used Axura's latest rom), but rather stock rom although it's much slower.
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The fact that we were promised a piece of software that should only require minor tweaking is absolutely unacceptable. I use linux for almost everything and that being said I know a bit about rolling out releases of different distros and how to integrate them into different systems. Android is a linux based software, (Opensource might I add), the only reason we don't have the bleeding edge is because Samsung needs to put their horrible UI into it, TW. I don't care about "Touchwiz" its badly programmed and anyone who has taken basic programing courses could program a GUI for this phone that puts it to shame. I'm sick of dealing with leaked versions of things that I was promised. No offense to any of the Devs, you guys are incredible and should be paid to roll out these releases rather than waiting for these bad companies with their "programmers" to try to find out how to use a toilet. we should have a stable build of gingerbread by now and I'm sorry but building a driver/hardware file for a computer isnt that hard, nor should it be so for Samsung since they placed all the parts into the phone. What do they have like one person with half a brain trying to reprogram the whole OS using Assembly code? Do they not realize the OS its self is open source and you can mod the code for each phone?? Both sprint and Samsung are horrible companies, if Froyo doesn't show soon, I will never touch a single one of their products after my contract is up, which is soon. Sorry, I just needed to rage. Hard.
Im with you man. Samsung stinks! I traded my EVO for a Epic and I have regretted it since. It has the best hardware out there and ZERO support. They are too slow about upgrades that are available and even lower end phones have gotten Froyo. They should skip Froyo and be first to drop Gingerbread. But, that would be too much like right for Samsung who sold the phones then dropped all of its users like a bad habit. If they dont do something soon Ill never buy another phone from Samsung. I dont blame Sprint because dropping updates is not on them. The EVO will probably be the next to get Froyo because that's the phone that Sprint has thrown it all in with.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's Sprint's fault for the delayed release. Sprint putting in their bloatware is the most likely reason we have not received the OTA yet. While Samsung is at fault for not getting it out sooner, it is Sprint that is causing this delay.
All companies are like this its not just sprint or samsung... I've been with every carrier except att and I've tried all three major cellphone brands and they've all lagged behind like this.
Until android is less fragmented, (think its getting there), and carriers realize their UIs only frustrate consumers and there are better ways to advertise/garnish more fundage from existing customer base; we will face "version lag" all the time regardless of carrier/phone.
Just my $0.02
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I think saying Gingerbread should be available now is pushing it..at this stage Gingerbread is for "developers"...I'm not saying that its not stable or anything, but it requires time to optimize for the hardware at hand...no phone ever gets a new Android OS until a few months after it came out..other the developer phones...
As for Froyo..according to samsung they gave it to the carriers..yes they have been slow overall but considering they are releasing 2.2.1 and not just 2.2 puts them there...
We know 100% that touchwiz is not the issue at this point as the leaks are running touchwiz just fine..
Either way there is still hope for end of the year update..as next playbook comes out on the 29th
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The fact that we were promised a piece of software that should only require minor tweaking is absolutely unacceptable. I use linux for almost everything and that being said I know a bit about rolling out releases of different distros and how to integrate them into different systems. Android is a linux based software, (Opensource might I add), the only reason we don't have the bleeding edge is because Samsung needs to put their horrible UI into it, TW. I don't care about "Touchwiz" its badly programmed and anyone who has taken basic programing courses could program a GUI for this phone that puts it to shame. I'm sick of dealing with leaked versions of things that I was promised. No offense to any of the Devs, you guys are incredible and should be paid to roll out these releases rather than waiting for these bad companies with their "programmers" to try to find out how to use a toilet. we should have a stable build of gingerbread by now and I'm sorry but building a driver/hardware file for a computer isnt that hard, nor should it be so for Samsung since they placed all the parts into the phone. What do they have like one person with half a brain trying to reprogram the whole OS using Assembly code? Do they not realize the OS its self is open source and you can mod the code for each phone?? Both sprint and Samsung are horrible companies, if Froyo doesn't show soon, I will never touch a single one of their products after my contract is up, which is soon. Sorry, I just needed to rage. Hard.
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we could all do one thing in the morning CALL SPRINT AND *****
Ya it may not do any thing but piss off the cs that takes the call but o well
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we could all do one thing in the morning CALL SPRINT AND *****
Ya it may not do any thing but piss off the cs that takes the call but o well
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Why ***** to customer service? They can't do a damn thing. If you were to ***** to anyone, ***** to the techs or their managers.
I haven't heard any body mention this in the forums but I was reading an article that said sprint was bringing their new crappy sprint ID software to the new epic update and I guarantee that's probably what's causing the delay
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Sprint "bloatware" is only a few apps worth a few megs. I think the only bloatware would be TW. I will never understand why is it so hard to port, say, the g2 build of android to our phone or any other android phone considering its pure vanilla with a few apps installed extra.. but that's why I'm no dev lol
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Im with you man. Samsung stinks! I traded my EVO for a Epic and I have regretted it since. It has the best hardware out there and ZERO support. They are too slow about upgrades that are available and even lower end phones have gotten Froyo. They should skip Froyo and be first to drop Gingerbread. But, that would be too much like right for Samsung who sold the phones then dropped all of its users like a bad habit. If they dont do something soon Ill never buy another phone from Samsung. I dont blame Sprint because dropping updates is not on them. The EVO will probably be the next to get Froyo because that's the phone that Sprint has thrown it all in with.
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right its not like ANY of the us carriers have gotten froyo on the galaxy s, something is seriously WRONG HERE and samsung is to blame! the phone should had froyo on it since DAY1! the nexus s had gingerbread since day 1 why didnt the galaxy s. regardless the epic should have froyo on it and if they want to release gingerbread later then go ahead. release froyo already! the phone never realized its potential. making us wait this long and i mean all of AMERICA is going to hurt samsung in the long run. i for one WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER SAMSUNG PHONE AGAIN! tweet email samsung and tell them them same.
btw if u bought a vibrant, how pissed off r u that the nexus s came out!
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Why ***** to customer service? They can't do a damn thing. If you were to ***** to anyone, ***** to the techs or their managers.
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They can't do a damn thing either. Especially if you're in a non-corporate store.
Can anyone put a link of as to who we can ***** too??
Let's KILL!! (lol)
A reply to the (op) My friend owns an Epic so I came on here to check if Froyo was released for it today and I ran across this post. I for one know that this all falls on Samsung and has nothing to do with Sprint. I have an EVO since launch day and have gotten 4 updates including Froyo about a month after release of the phone. Your Epics came out about a week or two after we got Froyo and Samsung has been promising ever since. Google other Samsung phones and you will see this is a trend with this company. The Galaxy S line over seas are not carried by Sprint and they just started getting Froyo Open your eyes its Samsung. No Froyo on T-Mobile, Verizon or At&t
Well Samsung must be to bizy making Auto Guns to keep the Crazy ****s in the North at bay. Than to hire any of the devs around hear that seem to know a little about our phone.
People. Say don't ***** out sprint well start posting some @samsung.com emails that you think we can ***** to insted?
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A reply to the (op) My friend owns an Epic so I came on here to check if Froyo was released for it today and I ran across this post. I for one know that this all falls on Samsung and has nothing to do with Sprint. I have an EVO since launch day and have gotten 4 updates including Froyo about a month after release of the phone. Your Epics came out about a week or two after we got Froyo and Samsung has been promising ever since. Google other Samsung phones and you will see this is a trend with this company. The Galaxy S line over seas are not carried by Sprint and they just started getting Froyo Open your eyes its Samsung. No Froyo on T-Mobile, Verizon or At&t
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Exactly. Very well said. This is a samsung issue and sprint has nothing to do with it. If that was the case then when the Evo got Froyo it would have probably been delayed also. I am only posting here because I was considering getting a epic but with all this delay and lack of support, I think I will have to re-think that. Everyone said from day one that Samsung would not support the phone and it has been proven true. Just a note on the delay, I have to say that the update was out for the vibrant and it was bricking phones. That shows how good the developers are over at samsung. They can't even program their own product. It's a shame because it's such a nice phone and the keyboard was the icing on the cake. Oh well.
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Exactly. Very well said. This is a samsung issue and sprint has nothing to do with it. If that was the case then when the Evo got Froyo it would have probably been delayed also. I am only posting here because I was considering getting a epic but with all this delay and lack of support, I think I will have to re-think that. Everyone said from day one that Samsung would not support the phone and it has been proven true. Just a note on the delay, I have to say that the update was out for the vibrant and it was bricking phones. That shows how good the developers are over at samsung. They can't even program their own product. It's a shame because it's such a nice phone and the keyboard was the icing on the cake. Oh well.
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Vary true
But in away i feel kinda bad for the hardware Engs that made the Epic they put all that work into a sweet phone and the SW people just totally drop the ball
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Can anyone put a link of as to who we can ***** too??
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there you have it. Have fun!
Where can we contact the company to ***** at them. Cause calling sprint isn't gonna do anything
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A reply to the (op) My friend owns an Epic so I came on here to check if Froyo was released for it today and I ran across this post. I for one know that this all falls on Samsung and has nothing to do with Sprint. I have an EVO since launch day and have gotten 4 updates including Froyo about a month after release of the phone. Your Epics came out about a week or two after we got Froyo and Samsung has been promising ever since. Google other Samsung phones and you will see this is a trend with this company. The Galaxy S line over seas are not carried by Sprint and they just started getting Froyo Open your eyes its Samsung. No Froyo on T-Mobile, Verizon or At&t
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They are both at fault actually. Samsung was slow to release the update to carriers and now they are being slow to release it to the end user. SGS devices in europe have had the update since november.
As to the evo issue, sprint considers the evo its flag ship device and as such makes sure it is up to date whereas they have made it abundantly clear they don't give a single flying **** about the epic so there is no incentive to update.
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They can do it for Gingerbread
http://www.devicemag.com/2011/04/09...owners-to-test-froyo-update-prior-to-release/
Don't hold your breath.
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Because it's Samsung ... enough said ...
It could happen if they actually foster that XDA relationship they kept mentioning. #SamsungJohn?
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The Root said:
It could happen if they actually foster that XDA relationship they kept mentioning. #SamsungJohn?
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I repeat, don't hold your breath.
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For all of its greatness, our phone is getting long in the tooth. personally, don't really expect Samsung to support our phone much into the future
Epic... the bastard king.... just dont buy another one of their phones unless they have the OS you expect on it and stable. Im just happy XDA is here to save their asses for those lucky enough to look for it on this one...
I think Samsung is just about done with this phone. They gotta worry about the GSII NOW
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Problem is Sprint wont get the GS2 for awhile if ever.
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They did.
DJ29
DK17
DK28
Anyone doubt these got out on purpose?
The galaxy s 2 is nothing. Another touch screen android phone. So what? There's litteraly thousands of those.
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k0nane said:
They did.
DJ29
DK17
DK28
Anyone doubt these got out on purpose?
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You got a point there.
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Kitteh298 said:
The galaxy s 2 is nothing. Another touch screen android phone. So what? There's litteraly thousands of those.
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Either you're incredibly stupid, or a troll.
In the event that you're just stupid here's the difference:
Dual core version on our processor
Super AMOLED plus (no pentile matrix ruining the screen)
Larger screen
Thinnest Phone in the world (subject to change any day, but still pretty damn thin)
HDMI out through usb
And more.
they did do this just not as public. i got eb13 the day it was pushed OTA but then they discontinued rollouts due to problems. its gonna be awhile before they come out with another good android phone with a keyboard IMO. i refuse to go HTC just because theyre starting to lock down their phones more and more as new models come out. no bueno. i just hope when the nexus s comes out for sprint there will be a quick port for us epic users. i dont plan on getting a new phone for a while. epic does everything i need it to do and some. and for those who complain about the dropped keys, IMPALER has a flashable zip on the development section which IMO completely irradicates the dropped keys issue. i text just as fast as i can type on a CPU and have had not 1 dropped key since.
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They did.
DJ29
DK17
DK28
Anyone doubt these got out on purpose?
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In your opinion as a dev, has Samsung's support of the Dev community gotten better in the past 2 months, and if so, do you think it will continue to improve, or fall back?
Thanks!
Pyperkub said:
In your opinion as a dev, has Samsung's support of the Dev community gotten better in the past 2 months, and if so, do you think it will continue to improve, or fall back?
Thanks!
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Personally I felt like Eb13 rocked. It was nice to have an official 2.2 even if it was a bit late. I believe they will release GB and as long as it doesn't have any major bugs that will be the end of official development for the Epic. If they do release Gingerbread in a reasonable time frame, my next phone will be a Galaxy S II. If not then I will be looking for an HTC or a Motorola. My next phone must have an unlocked bootloader or I will not buy.
To answer your question, yes I believe hit has gotten better but by how much I am not so sure.
There's a difference between a locked bootloader and an encrypted bootloader.
HTC's phones have ALWAYS been NAND locked, once NAND was unlocked root was achieved. Moto is encrypting their bootloaders, they can't be unlocked without the encryption code.
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I think the problem is with Sprint, not with Samsung!
I'm throwing out a theory here. I think the froyo disaster is heavily based on the fact that the Galaxy Series would be best served with Gingerbread, but as of release they couldn't be equipped with Gingerbread. They had Eclair solid at release date and decided to do so uniformly. They also had froyo code, but it's optimized for the HTC hardware it was designed on. The conversion to froyo was bigger than expected and involved moving and/or firing devs that couldn't deal with the change. Frantic motions are made across all Galaxy phones to get froyo out. Now Gingerbread development can be resumed, thus resumed silence. I really think it might be a combo of bad timing on release date and an inability to realize what that would mean in the market. I think Samsung is learning lessons more publicly than other companies are having to. I see people complain about problems with prior Moto and HTC updates, so I know Samsung is not alone in having issues.
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