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Hey there,
I was just wondering if we are able to change an sd card without losing the configuration and apps.
Is it possible to make an image of the complete old (small) sd, then restore this to a bigger one with resizing the data partition to fit the bigger sd card.
Anybody tried this?
thanks,
Neo
It's a good idea,but have a lot of data in sd card now.
Have anyone try it that just flash wp7 on HD2 or other dev.
Sorry 4 my English
Hmmm, intresting idea, i would say the first step is to try a complete copy, i mean, lets assume you have a 4GB SD card, go get another one and ghost it to the new one, exactly the same partitions and content.
if that works the next step would then be trying to edit the partition table to increase its size to a bigger card.
If thats possible i think the only other sticking point would be the OS its self
Someone has had an intresting experience on here which may suggest WP7 has some kind of recovery/safe mode, basically the chap did something to his SD card, he restarted and all of his apps an data were all gone, restarted again and it was all back again.
it was almost as if WP saw there was a difference, stopped its self to check everything was ok then carried on as normal.
Dont for a second assume you can back up your data doing this though, a hard reset on the phone would render the data on the card useless
Hey guys!
Here are the events leading to the demise of my perfect dual-boot setup!
1. Installed MAGLDR, WP7 - worked great alone.
2. Setup dual-boot with Cyanogen 7 and worked great. Both are very fast.
3. Contacted Microsoft to get my live activation key. Put it in, now every time i power down my phone and come back into WP7, it is factory reset. Why wont it hold any settings? I have the phone partitioned right, and there are NO problems on the android side. I've searched and searched and can't even find something remotely close.
This might be due to my inability to phrase the scenario right for the search bar.
d16soda said:
Hey guys!
Here are the events leading to the demise of my perfect dual-boot setup!
1. Installed MAGLDR, WP7 - worked great alone.
2. Setup dual-boot with Cyanogen 7 and worked great. Both are very fast.
3. Contacted Microsoft to get my live activation key. Put it in, now every time i power down my phone and come back into WP7, it is factory reset. Why wont it hold any settings? I have the phone partitioned right, and there are NO problems on the android side. I've searched and searched and can't even find something remotely close.
This might be due to my inability to phrase the scenario right for the search bar.
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Maybe, you should just have WP7 alone and then activate it.
Then set-up dual boot. That might work.
Otherwise, you should read through the dual boot thread for any other people with the same problem.
:/ so much work to undo... I hope that isn't necessary.
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I hope it isn't either, but that's what I had done before changing SD cards and it worked fine
XPiemaster said:
I hope it isn't either, but that's what I had done before changing SD cards and it worked fine
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you had the same problem?
Well I just figured out that when I am in WP7, it isn't soft reset like i though - it just isn't recognizing my SD. Says I have 7 MB of memory. :O
Just redid all of the partitioning, reinstalled WP7, reinstalled Android... and STILL after I change the unallocated partition to Primary as directed, when I boot into WP7 it says I have 10mb of memory.
What happened to me
I am still not clear on what is happening to you but here is what I have found. I set up wp7 using my 8 gb card It worked flawlessly. I wanted to dual boot so....half of my 16 gb t-mobile provided sd card became my windows partition and half became a fat partition. excellent life was good. I got sd android and wp7 nand. However, one day from android i selected the reboot option to get back to wp7,,,mistake. I discovered that reboot jacks up the windows side of the card, must write to it during the reboot. lucky for me it was just a matter of recopying the 8gb cards content back to the 16 gb card to get back the data I had there. but a word to the wise, choose shut down not reboot from android on a dual booting wp7 setup.
What happens is things are fine, but android boots fine, but when I boot into WP7 it shows 10 mb of disk space.... not the 8gb i have it set as. Android, however, runs well and shows 8gb.
did you start with a smaller card when you installed wp7? I might be a little behind because I did the install in january but as far as i know you need 2 sd cards to dual boot. I had to use a smaller card to install wp7 then copy the contents to the blank space on the larger card.
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did you start with a smaller card when you installed wp7? I might be a little behind because I did the install in january but as far as i know you need 2 sd cards to dual boot. I had to use a smaller card to install wp7 then copy the contents to the blank space on the larger card.
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I used partitions, not two SD. It is the same principle, though. The WP7 partition is smaller. I just redid everything, and so far it is working Where I think it was getting hung up was in the guide, I was supposed to set the unpartitioned space as Primary instead of Logical. This meant 2 Primaries on the SD.... I skipped this step so I have my Fat32 as Primary and Unpartitioned as Logical. Both WP7 and Android are running well and WP7 saves all settings.... so far.... lol. I'll definitely keep this thread updated. Thanks for the input guys.
I actually think I like the 2 sd card method a little better since it provides a backup if your sd card decides it doesnt love you any more.
whycali said:
I actually think I like the 2 sd card method a little better since it provides a backup if your sd card decides it doesnt love you any more.
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Lol that is what a hard disk and back-up utilities are for ^^
you backed up the unallocated space on your sd card to your hard disk?
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you backed up the unallocated space on your sd card to your hard disk?
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Yes.
Also, now Android is having issues booting... Trying one more thing and hoping it doesn't mess up WP7 :/
Hi,
I'm dual booting Mango and Android in my HD2.
Initially, everything was fine. i can boot into mango or android as i wish. after 1 day exploring mango, i realized that the empty space of the storage card returned to 8GB. FYI, i partitioned the SD card into 2 partitions of 4GB each.
then went into MAGDLR to boot Android...it says loading image fail...my android partition is gone!
anyone facing this issue? i'm thinking maybe mango has something to do with it...
any thoughts?
thx
me too,so i back to NAND android again
remember this is green mango and is buggy!
It probably did a hard software reset and wiped the sd card while you weren't looking.
Hope you backed up android!
You Jinxed me!!!! I read your post this afternoon I said to myself "Pfff...Sucks for U, glad I'm still on NODO!" and then an hour ago while listening to Last.fm my phone crashed and rebooted. I didn't think anything of it because it does this every time once in a while. I stuck it back in my holster while waiting for it to be ready to use again. When I took it back out of my holster and turned it on it had the "getting started menu" was on the first page! Nooooo!!!!!! I got Jinxed!!!!!!!!
Well, I was planning to upgrade to Mango shortly anyways and I have a backup of my android on my desktop, which I just I did 2 days ago, thank god!!! So not too bad though my desktop usb hubs is really wonky and unreliable at times so that will be my only headache. So to answer your question, it's not just a Mango problem. It can happen on Nodo, too!
is this a mango problem? i've been dual booting ever since wp7 was available and haven't had any mishaps. gotta backup more often, but aren't we always using new versions of android anyways?
radiikal,
How did you get Mango dual booting in the first place. I have not had the time to devote to figuring out how to work with the way Mango formats the SD card, in the past I have been running dual boot on 7004 and NoDo so I know how to do it. However, as of Mango it formats the entire card as two "Other" partitions, since the 200MB section is not FAT16 I have not been able to modify it using the usual steps and I cannot get Windows to recognize the new FAT32 partition since it is not the first partition on the disk. I am going to try and copy a partition from another SD card and see if that works but if there is another way to do it I would like to know.
~Spike~
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radiikal,
How did you get Mango dual booting in the first place. I have not had the time to devote to figuring out how to work with the way Mango formats the SD card, in the past I have been running dual boot on 7004 and NoDo so I know how to do it. However, as of Mango it formats the entire card as two "Other" partitions, since the 200MB section is not FAT16 I have not been able to modify it using the usual steps and I cannot get Windows to recognize the new FAT32 partition since it is not the first partition on the disk. I am going to try and copy a partition from another SD card and see if that works but if there is another way to do it I would like to know.
~Spike~
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Guys, the dual booting method is the same for all WP7 builds. I'm using the one user elfinlazz cooked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1157535) and i loaded it the same way as i did when i was using xbmod's build.
spike, you are right in that when WP7 formats your sd card, it doesn't make a FAT16 partition. I use minitool partition manager for the whole process and it makes one 200MB "other" partition, and the rest of the space as a second "other" partition. what you do is this:
1) Delete the bigger "other"(red) partition and click apply. it should be "unallocated" (gray)
2) Click create make it "unformatted"(dark green), leave as logical, and make sure that "partition size" is BIGGER than "unallocated space before" (I would make it AT LEAST a 1gb difference. I've had issues where if you try to make them equal sizes, windows would format the whole card again)
NOTE: make sure the partitions read in THIS EXACT ORDER:
200MB "other" partition
smaller "unallocated" partition
bigger "unformatted" partition
click apply and it may take a while. once it's done, put it in the phone and boot into WP7
3) you should go through the setting up phone process. once you get to the home screen, go to settings, about phone, and check the available storage. it SHOULD be the size of the bigger "unformatted" partition (give or take a couple mb for the os files). if all is well, hit "reset your phone", when it asks are you sure, hit yes, and your phone will reboot. MAKE SURE YOU BOOT INTO MAGLDR.
4) once in magldr, put the sd back in the computer and open minitool
5) you can now delete the 200MB "other" partition and it will merge with the smaller "unallocated" partition. from there, click create, make it FAT32, make it primary, and make the cluster size 32kb. click apply and let it work.
6) you should now have 2 partitions, a FAT32 and an "other" partition. the "other" partition should be bigger. right click on the "other" partition, go to "modify" and click set as primary. both partition should be set as primary or android will not see your SD storage.
7) if that's good, copy your android build to the sd card and before booting into android, i would boot into WP7 again, set up your phone again, and check the available storage. should be the same as the first time you booted wp7. if not, then you'll have to do the process all over again, and i would make the WP7 partition bigger than you did.
I am using dual boot too, no issues here. Works as good as it always has
radiikal said:
Hi,
I'm dual booting Mango and Android in my HD2.
Initially, everything was fine. i can boot into mango or android as i wish. after 1 day exploring mango, i realized that the empty space of the storage card returned to 8GB. FYI, i partitioned the SD card into 2 partitions of 4GB each.
then went into MAGDLR to boot Android...it says loading image fail...my android partition is gone!
anyone facing this issue? i'm thinking maybe mango has something to do with it...
any thoughts?
thx
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I think you can not dual boot with half and half size. Give WP7 greater space than Android as not to confuse WP7. I read that somewhere.
spikespencer said:
radiikal,
How did you get Mango dual booting in the first place. I have not had the time to devote to figuring out how to work with the way Mango formats the SD card, in the past I have been running dual boot on 7004 and NoDo so I know how to do it. However, as of Mango it formats the entire card as two "Other" partitions, since the 200MB section is not FAT16 I have not been able to modify it using the usual steps and I cannot get Windows to recognize the new FAT32 partition since it is not the first partition on the disk. I am going to try and copy a partition from another SD card and see if that works but if there is another way to do it I would like to know.
~Spike~
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You can use 2 different separate cards, one for each build. It's a pain to update WP7 and then go over the partitioning mess again.
The only annoyance may be the removing and the reinserting of cards. That does not bother me.
Once WP7 Mango is set up and running, it does not erase a new card you would insert by accident. WP7 asks you to turn off the phone and get the right card. It is best to setup MAGLDR to boot android automatically...
I had that same problem but that was with a 7004 build. It happened a day after I flashed radio 2.15 to 2.12 to test for better battery performance.
Have got radio 2.15 back on and not changing this time
Hi,
I think I didn't post too often here but now I need your help.
I also did some searching first but in threads like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143949 I did not finy a good solution, yet.
I am owning a HD2 and used CoreDroid 1.6 till yesterday. I connected my phone via USB to my computer to load it and left office. When I came back, I noticed my phone was still on. I touched it but nothing happened. The surface was frozen. Not even the off-button showed any effect. Thus, I removed the battery, waited a bit and inserted it again.
Unfortunately the phone did not boot any more. Just hangs at the first "Coredroid Screen". I tested around and when I removed the SD card and rebooted again, it worked. I checked the card and it had some file system problems. Thus, I saved all data and formatted it. However, my HD2 did not boot also with any of the other SD cards I tested (no difference how it is formatted). The system starts booting from NANE and shows the first CoreDroid screen and then just angs.
Then I noticed, that it said after booting "internal memory is full" (I checked it: 0 kb free). I searched for the reason and I found in the internal memory root a folder /bin. Observing it I saw, that nearly ALL executables have a size of 1.5 MB. I am talking about the executables that usually have some few kB.
In panic mode, I used Task29 to completely clear NAND. Then I installed MAGLDR and the appropriate CWM for CoreDroid. I downloaded the newer version 1.7 and flashed it. Same result. Did not boot with SD card but without it worked. However, I had that strange /bin folder with only 1.5MB files. Then I used MAGLDR to clean the system partition again and installed 1.6 again but same problem. I also used not the CWM provided by CoreDroid but also the "generic" downloadable and changed settings accordingly. Same effect. I even tried a CWM with 400 MB system partition instead the proposed 390 MB but same effect. 0 Bytes free. I also tried the latest Hyperdroid and Cyanogen ROMs with the same effect.
So I wonder if there is some tool for "checking" the internal memory for possible problems? Resetting it with Task29 did not bring any benefit.
Hope someone can give me a hint what I would do in this case.
I've not checked but I seem to remember coredroid uses the SD ext for data and parts of the system, so its hardly surprising that removing or using a different SD card will stop it booting.
If you were able to boot magldr and reflash roms and install cwms, I think your internal memory should be fine.
Try flashing some other rom, preferably with no sense. I'd say hyperdroid, i remember it as quick and light.
It might be problem with your phone SD card reader hardware...
samsamuel said:
I've not checked but I seem to remember coredroid uses the SD ext for data and parts of the system, so its hardly surprising that removing or using a different SD card will stop it booting.
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Thanks for your answers.
The strange thing is: it does not boot if ANY SD-card is inside. If I remove the SD-card, it at least boots. In other words: it boots as long as there is NO SD-card at all.
I must admin I prefer Coredroid since I think it supports many nice features like all the options when connecting it via USB cable (going online over computer connection, usb tethering, etc). However, on the weekend I try flashing again some other roms to check. Still I would like to check what is going on :/
Yeah, I believe you.
Just hope it's not a hardware problem...
Received my first HTC through the post yesterday and joined the site in an attempt to run android. I know nothing and there's an overwhelming amount of information on this site so just need someone to point me in the right direction.
Used this and followed instructions carefully: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
My problem is after running clrcad.exe and haret.exe, the phone reset after a grey screen. Looked like it went well but now the SD card has disappeared from the file explorer and windows when connected through USB.
Any help appreciated, just want to get the SD card back up so I can format it and so on. Thanks.
I take it by the lack of replies that this isn't a common problem. It's kind of put me off trying any new ROM's as a simple procedure like this can't even go straight. Will have to stick with Winmo then
Im not quite sure anymore, but i dont think you are able to mount your sd as long as you use sd builds. I dont know if this is changing with an ext partition on your sd.
Just check out the NAND section. Its installed on your internal memory and not running from sd. WinMob will be fully deleted and replaced with Android, so first do a backup of contacts etc!!!
If you do not need WinMob for any kind of apps for work etc which arent ported to Android yet (which i dont think there are much NAND is the best solution for you.
Started like you with sd build 2years ago, too. But switched to NAND as soon as it was stable.
Now it is almost perfect.
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I have same problem
I had the same problem but now i use magldr and boot-ing goes vith no problem and the card is showing
deth667 said:
I had the same problem but now i use magldr and boot-ing goes vith no problem and the card is showing
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How did you get the card to show again? Or did you buy a new one?
Just a thought,have you tried a soft reset? Switch phone off Take back cover of and press little red button for a few seconds,put cover back on reboot into android
Also make sure your SD card is formatted to 32kb (slow format)
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