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Well after a little discussion yesturday in the root thread about whether or not sprint can downgrade your phone after the 2.1 update I went ahead and called them and they said that it could be done. I actually called first to the sprint service center and they said it could be done. So I went down there today and talked in person to the tech and he told me that it can't be done. So wasted an hour case closed
just a thought, but if the guys here havent figured out how to downgrade hboot, what makes anyone think that sprint would be able to?
wtphoto said:
just a thought, but if the guys here havent figured out how to downgrade hboot, what makes anyone think that sprint would be able to?
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They have the source, and release keys. They can do whatever they want like make you wait six months for a very terrible update just to make you buy a new phone and then blame it on the hardware the same hardware that's going into the mytouch slide which will be running froyo. But the consumers don't know any better so they just buy a new phone
I have been there, the told me it can't be done so i made radioshack give me a new phone since i really wasn't happy with the 2.1
iliapiano said:
I have been there, the told me it can't be done so i made radioshack give me a new phone since i really wasn't happy with the 2.1
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If I wasn't giving it to my girlfriend tomorrow then I would send it to them and have them "fix it" or give me a new one I still got the box they sent me but i figure its not worth the hassle I still got one with root.
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They have the source, and release keys. They can do whatever they want like make you wait six months for a very terrible update just to make you buy a new phone and then blame it on the hardware the same hardware that's going into the mytouch slide which will be running froyo. But the consumers don't know any better so they just buy a new phone
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Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
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Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
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I can't stand the goddamn weather animations. Makes my phone unresponsive to touch when it first wakes up, and I can't figure out how to turn them off.
delete the clock widget, and when you add it again, after choosing clock style then city, it gives you the option to check full screen animations, just uncheck it.
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delete the clock widget, and when you add it again, after choosing clock style then city, it gives you the option to check full screen animations, just uncheck it.
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HUZZAH!!!!
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I can't stand the goddamn weather animations. Makes my phone unresponsive to touch when it first wakes up, and I can't figure out how to turn them off.
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Yeah I'm not a fan of them either would rather have live wallpapers. "Oh my god it's gonna be cloudy and I know cuz clouds just rolled across my screen" . Yeah ridiculous.
On another note I
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Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
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So much I can say but I just llike to have the option of taking and removing what I like (Hate sprint nascar) personalizing icons and so fourth a2sd.......... I could go on but really froyo and gingerbread is all I really need to say
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Yeah I'm not a fan of them either would rather have live wallpapers. "Oh my god it's gonna be cloudy and I know cuz clouds just rolled across my screen" . Yeah ridiculous.
On another note I So much I can say but I just llike to have the option of taking and removing what I like (Hate sprint nascar) personalizing icons and so fourth a2sd.......... I could go on but really froyo and gingerbread is all I really need to say
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Basically what the other guy said, u not being able to root is the reason ur throwing a tantrum. Nothing is wrong with the update but the ability to do something that its normally forbidden.
I'll just throw in an "I told ya so"
Well I want to downgrade because the damn Bluetooth won't work with 2. 1
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Well I want to downgrade because the damn Bluetooth won't work with 2. 1
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Neither does 87 gas in a racecar. Look for one thats compatible
Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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hahah, wow.
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Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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Then u r sol my friend. Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone
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Then u r sol my friend. Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone
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First you post about wanting something that's normally forbidden...aka ROOT !
Then you just post and tell him "Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone "
So what is it?....... you like root or it disgusts you? Can't have it both ways.
And the ability to USE bluetooth with a new phone, either rooted or NORMALLY the way it should be is EXPECTED when we pay for them.
But I'm sure the guy welcomes your SOL attitude......
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First you post about wanting something that's normally forbidden...aka ROOT !
Then you just post and tell him "Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone "
So what is it?....... you like root or it disgusts you? Can't have it both ways.
And the ability to USE bluetooth with a new phone, either rooted or NORMALLY the way it should be is EXPECTED when we pay for them.
But I'm sure the guy welcomes your SOL attitude......
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My phones rooted buddy. I'm talking about the OP complaining because he says 2.1 sucks because he can't do functions that root allow him to do. Reading comprehension > u
As far as my attitude, nothing wrong with my attitude. Some things are NOT compatible with others, plain and simple. Doesn't matter what phone you pay for, it does not mean every bluetooth ever invented will be compatible with the phone. You pay for the phone service, and you have phone service. Your cars bluetooth doesn't work with it? Sorry, i'm sure HTC wasn't thinking PRIUS when they made 2.1.
As a worker for Sprint I hate coming to these forums and hearing people complain about things that have nothing to do with Sprint and then reading about how they can "cheat" Sprint or how disgusted they are with them when it's not even Sprint. Why am I disgusted you ask? Cause all the BS customers that constantly complain come to my department (retention). I don't care what ppl do with their stuff, but don't complain when it's not needed.
Okay first things first I have two phones one with root one without. So this issue is just something that got out of hand. Just gonna touch on some things:
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Basically what the other guy said, u not being able to root is the reason ur throwing a tantrum. Nothing is wrong with the update but the ability to do something that its normally forbidden.
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Actually I was quite calm when I wrote that. All I hear is blah blah blah. I like how you try to put yourself in a higher position than me by demeaning me and overexaggerating my statements to twist them into what you want people to think I meant.
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I'll just throw in an "I told ya so"
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LOL thanks
DirtyShroomz said:
My phones rooted buddy. I'm talking about the OP complaining because he says 2.1 sucks because he can't do functions that root allow him to do. Reading comprehension > u
As far as my attitude, nothing wrong with my attitude. Some things are NOT compatible with others, plain and simple. Doesn't matter what phone you pay for, it does not mean every bluetooth ever invented will be compatible with the phone. You pay for the phone service, and you have phone service. Your cars bluetooth doesn't work with it? Sorry, i'm sure HTC wasn't thinking PRIUS when they made 2.1.
As a worker for Sprint I hate coming to these forums and hearing people complain about things that have nothing to do with Sprint and then reading about how they can "cheat" Sprint or how disgusted they are with them when it's not even Sprint. Why am I disgusted you ask? Cause all the BS customers that constantly complain come to my department (retention). I don't care what ppl do with their stuff, but don't complain when it's not needed.
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Okay the only reason that I posted this was to stop the conversation in the root section. Also to confirm that sprint service centers can't downgrade the bootloader. Second thing I want to touch on is when I did this there were no fake or harassing conversations with employees I was very polite. Why would I be a **** to people that I go out of my way to look for reasons to talk to? Them and tmobile reps. Also I bought phone insurance from radioshack and was promised everything under the sun and told the guy how finnicky I am about my phone and was straight up honest with him and things that were likely to happen to it. You know what he said, "it's okay there's ways around that kind of stuff to get it handled". Now I'm out 125 and I could get a new phone through their policy got the box sitting about three maybe four feet from me but I'm not gonna.
By the way sprint does suck. They aren't as bad as at&t. And before you say why not leave them. Because I can't right because for other reasons that our my business
Ok, so I was going a lot of playing around with my phone last night. On the scale of hacking, I am not even in the same realm as the skilled folks here. I tinker with things now and then... and sometimes I get ideas... like now.
So, my EVO is setup to work with my corp exchange server for work emails. I noticed that under Settings / Security / Select Device Administrators, the exchange security policy is in there. This section also seems to suggest that you can "add / remove" but it appears to only allow removal from the UI.
Then I got to some more thinking... an app essentially installed itself and granted itself this right. Why cant we study what that app is doing a do something similar? Or at a minimum, exploit those very roles that are already there on the device?
Am I even thinking along the right lines? Or am I way off?
Makes sense to me but I'm also a novice but good contribution dude. Maybe it could get the ball rolling on this thing.
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Makes sense to me but I'm also a novice but good contribution dude. Maybe it could get the ball rolling on this thing.
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heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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Come on, you know that's not true. The reason people get crap for asking about rooting 2.2 is that the info and answers are all already here on the front pages.
But I like that people are still thinking and suggesting like the OP. That's how things are going to keep moving.
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
now we just need a hacker
So... thanks for the chime-ins on the idea. I thought it was a good one too. I am curious now to see what one of the big hackers has to say about it. Knowing my luck, it would be a squashed dream.
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Come on, you know that's not true. The reason people get crap for asking about rooting 2.2 is that the info and answers are all already here on the front pages.
But I like that people are still thinking and suggesting like the OP. That's how things are going to keep moving.
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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Hummm "crap" to "veal" I love it you know what some developer thinks of veal LOL
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heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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That's the main reason I check in daily too...
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Not bad......
Just had an idea ( warning I am a noob.) So the previews exploit was found by running flash. If any developer can create an app and install the old flash to allow the old exploit. Then this will allow us to flash.
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Ok, so I was going a lot of playing around with my phone last night. On the scale of hacking, I am not even in the same realm as the skilled folks here. I tinker with things now and then... and sometimes I get ideas... like now.
So, my EVO is setup to work with my corp exchange server for work emails. I noticed that under Settings / Security / Select Device Administrators, the exchange security policy is in there. This section also seems to suggest that you can "add / remove" but it appears to only allow removal from the UI.
Then I got to some more thinking... an app essentially installed itself and granted itself this right. Why cant we study what that app is doing a do something similar? Or at a minimum, exploit those very roles that are already there on the device?
Am I even thinking along the right lines? Or am I way off?
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Not to burst your bubble or anything, but I'm pretty sure this is mostly related to corporate security so that IT can lock the phone down even more than carriers/manufacturers do. Think stuff like not being able to install apps, email restrictions, password management, etc.
Breaking this security feature will at most give you the access non-corporate users enjoy with their unrooted phones.
I'm sure there are plenty of dev's looking for exploits on a daily basis. No need to get peoples hopes up early is why there isn't much talk about it. Same reason people get dumped on for asking on a daily basis. If there was one found already it would be posted so quit asking sort of issue.
I like the thoughts though.
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Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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Just had an idea ( warning I am a noob.) So the previews exploit was found by running flash. If any developer can create an app and install the old flash to allow the old exploit. Then this will allow us to flash.
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I asked same thing other day... They said that htc closed thee flash exploit and reverting to an older version won't be able to access that same exploit since they closed and patched thee exploit
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You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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To further derail this thread, this "easter egg" is actually a feature from Google, the reasoning being that is probably better to send a nonsensical word over a swear word in case you didn't actually mean to write the swear word.
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To further derail this thread, this "easter egg" is actually a feature from Google, the reasoning being that is probably better to send a nonsensical word over a swear word in case you didn't actually mean to write the swear word.
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Still derailing I understand what your saying as you are probably correct, its just funny how they related crap to veal...as you know lots of people don't approve of veal, so the code writer must be one of them...there are so many different words they could have chosen..just funny that's all! Done with the derail, back on this exhausted topic
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Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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Sorry... I hate to be off topic, but this sparked a memory. I was sending my wife a txt a couple weeks ago and I can't remember the word I was typing, but it was definitely a legitimate word--no reason for Android to mess with it anyway. It effectively turned that word into "gay"...go figure.
Like sk63 said, that just relates to the Exchange admin role. Nothing to do with root access on the device.
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You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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OK -
V is to the right of C
E is to the left of R
A is the same as A
L is left under P
I hope this puts an end to this veal crap!
ok, back to topic
So, for the point about exchange administration... I am aware of what it is used for... since I myself am a user of it. My point was that it has administrative power over the phone since it can perform a wipe (among other highly privileged tasks)... so the idea was to try and use that system somehow to exploit.
I also liked the thinking behind installing old flash. That is at least a good question. One that I would love to hear the answer to.
Any time I spell Uber it tries to write ubersexual lol
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I'm sure there are plenty of dev's looking for exploits on a daily basis. No need to get peoples hopes up early is why there isn't much talk about it. Same reason people get dumped on for asking on a daily basis. If there was one found already it would be posted so quit asking sort of issue.
I like the thoughts though.
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Wow! So (1) we aren't allowed to make any kind of new thread about 2.2 and rooting and (2) we can't share ideas about possible exploits, at least not in your presence.
I gotta say, kick me, kill me, put me on probation, but you are truly one GIANT ASS. Who put you on that high horse? What an Asshole. Hey, what prompted you to open this thread? Was it to review some interesting literature tied to an intriguing title, or did you open it knowing full well when you clicked that you were going to scroll to the bottom and post the most close-minded, rude, obtrusive comment you could think of?
I don't know much about root with the mytouch 4g Or any phone for that matter A
except that it is considered very very good However it may or may not want a warranty that is where I hear different issues
Could someone clarify the two things first what are the exact benefits I get out of it. would it take me back to what I had on my nexus --basic android. nd
Secondly would it void my warranty? If so is there a way of getting back to the original factory settings where they would not know?
Lastly there is no way I would be able to do this is there anyway of getting anyone else to do it in person or over the computer By giving me instructions I know there is a list of instructions but I was thinking more along the lines of seeing or speaking to someone
I would pay handsomely for this
Thank you and this was typed and sent using Dragon dictation so forgive me for any misspellings or punctuation I correct is almost all spelling and punctuation till the end
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I don't know much about root with the mytouch 4g Or any phone for that matter A
except that it is considered very very good However it may or may not want a warranty that is where I hear different issues
Could someone clarify the two things first what are the exact benefits I get out of it. would it take me back to what I had on my nexus --basic android. nd
Secondly would it void my warranty? If so is there a way of getting back to the original factory settings where they would not know?
Lastly there is no way I would be able to do this is there anyway of getting anyone else to do it in person or over the computer By giving me instructions I know there is a list of instructions but I was thinking more along the lines of seeing or speaking to someone
I would pay handsomely for this
Thank you and this was typed and sent using Dragon dictation so forgive me for any misspellings or punctuation I correct is almost all spelling and punctuation till the end
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1 - Simply rooting the phone would not give you the same setup that you had on your Nexus One, but it would allow you to get there. By rooting the phone, you are getting complete access to every partition on that phone and THAT is what allows changes to be made to the kernel and operating systems (aka ROMs). Unless you are a developer and know how to create your own ROM, you'd have to wait until one is created for us. Right now I believe there is one called Ice or something to that extent. You can check the Development section for that.
2 - Rooting technically does void your warranty, however there are way to get back to the original stock ROM/settings. There are threads in the Development section as well. As with anything that is in unfamiliar territory, take care and precaution when modifying your phone...especially if you use it on a daily basis and aren't sure of the exact steps to take.
Hopefully this was somewhat useful. Good luck!
Allen, and everyone, thank you
Yes, it does help
You say I can wait for one, or do my own, or use one by ??Ice.
Is that the one that was on the net, namely one like this, created by Scotty also?
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/11/root-mytouch-4g-install-custom-recovery/
1. Is that safe
2. Is the "flash" the thing that can get you back to factory settings
3. As far as the ? about getting anyone to take baby steps with you in doing this OR somewhere to take the phone to do it, has anyone heard of this.
Lastly, Allen
did you know anything about the phone locking up after a break, when using WiFi (EDIT: Oops thought I mentioned this in the post above. fwiw, anyone know why I can use wifi over the net quite well, using my browser (not to confuse using the wifi calling app, as one gent thought I meant. But then after a brief break, it locks up. even if I switch back to hspa. I have to restart. any ideas?)
Again, Thanks Allen, and all
If the only thing you know about rooting is "its very very good" then my suggestion would be to not do it just to do it.... do your research first, learn the basics and what its all about, yes there are pro's but theres con's. A simple mistake could leave you with a very expensive paper weight. All I'm saying is there's no need to jump in to it. root was around far before android and wont disappear over night. The only thing that I can't stress enough is research research research.
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If the only thing you know about rooting is "its very very good" then my suggestion would be to not do it just to do it.... do your research first, learn the basics and what its all about, yes there are pro's but theres con's. A simple mistake could leave you with a very expensive paper weight. All I'm saying is there's no need to jump in to it. root was around far before android and wont disappear over night. The only thing that I can't stress enough is research research research.
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Hey, thanks pack
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You say I can wait for one, or do my own, or use one by ??Ice.
Is that the one that was on the net, namely one like this, created by Scotty also?
1. Is that safe
2. Is the "flash" the thing that can get you back to factory settings
3. As far as the ? about getting anyone to take baby steps with you in doing this OR somewhere to take the phone to do it, has anyone heard of this.
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For a beginner developing your own rom would be extremely difficult/almost impossible... no other roms have been released yet except for the ice one but that is the exact same thing as what you have now minus the stock apps
One problem with using other peoples roms is if you can't read the code you really don't know what your putting on your phone... with XDA a decent amount of us can read code and would say something if we found it malicious but what if noone took the time on that specific rom? unless you can read it that just brings me back to you really never know
So I guess that answers your is it safe question... its safe if you know what your doing... and don't get me wrong I'm not tryin to make it sound scary it'll be a 1 in a million shot to find a malicious file on xda but it could happen
2 flash an equal to install ... as installing a rom flashing a rom
3 no idea what you mean
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For a beginner developing your own rom would be extremely difficult/almost impossible... no other roms have been released yet except for the ice one but that is the exact same thing as what you have now minus the stock apps
One problem with using other peoples roms is if you can't read the code you really don't know what your putting on your phone... with XDA a decent amount of us can read code and would say something if we found it malicious but what if noone took the time on that specific rom? unless you can read it that just brings me back to you really never know
So I guess that answers your is it safe question... its safe if you know what your doing... and don't get me wrong I'm not tryin to make it sound scary it'll be a 1 in a million shot to find a malicious file on xda but it could happen
2 flash an equal to install ... as installing a rom flashing a rom
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thanks. No, that just about answers it. very well, I might add. I will wait
what i meant, is if there is one that comes out, might there be someone who will walk you thru it, i.e for a newbie either thru chat, phone, or somewhere to take your phone to get it flashed with the new rom
oh ok i see, you would probably not want someone to do it for you because youll need to do it more than once... if someone walks you through it at least you learn how to do it and you'll be able to do it next time (and trust me theres always a next time) if your interested in doing it i pm'd you my aim name and id help you out with it... its really quite simply when its broken down... but like i said before id do some more research on it first and come up with some reason you personally need root access because its importance to other people may not mean anything to you n vice versa.
Is it possible that htc is so advanced that they made wildfire with new hboot impossible to be OWN3D by UNREVOKED ?
Will it be ever possible ?
Just curious.
Theyre working on it atm
sure they are... last post they did that they are working on it was 10-th january or earlyer
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If you want it so soon do it yourself or let others do it.
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If you want it so soon do it yourself or let others do it.
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Sorry but i was not asking about "how long do we have to wait...."
I know that they are people like us and they have other stuff to do and they do it free....
I was only asking if this is possible that it now or someday will be too hard...
In the current state of things, I think that it was, it is and it probably always will be a cat-and-mouse game. Remember the TIFF exploit on the PSP. Who would have thought about it? Hacking a console with picture? Seriously.
Despite best practice, there will always be some shortcuts taken and slack programming. Or the plainly unexpectable; rooting through a malformed wifi packet maybe?
The problem we face nowadays is that we have many hungry cats that get impatient for their food.
Having read about the Alpharev and unrevoked, it does look that this is just a question of time.
I think personally (probably because I know nothing on the subject) that making/getting the tools to sign any HBOOT (PS3 style) is the way to go.
I too have a 2.2.1 phone which I bought like this on eBay, and the wait is frustrating to say the least, but I would rather wait a bit more than stare at a brick.
I too have a 2.2.1 wildfire, I was unwittingly duped into thinking updating would make my phone better. < how wrong was I.
Looking at the positive side at least I can research and learn about Android/rooting/custom ROMs before I dive in and perform them. So hopefully no problems when I eventually do manage to root it
The unrevoked team said on the10th that they are working on it. Today we have the 30th and yet still no updates from them. The new security system is probably too good for them and maybe they will not be able to root it....
Look every system can be exploited, Some are easy and some are hard, just give them time. I have 2.2.1 firmware as i got the phone new just over a week ago. I have tried to root it myself and failed (Linux geek maybe) but andriod is new to me so now i am going to wait.
So wait and research on how to use custom roms i am its fun and give the people making the exploits time, they are doing it for free and have normal lifes like the rest of us.
Me to on OTA firmware 2.2.1!
I never root before and android a bit new for me as well.
I had following up xda to learn how to root but now people say my 2.2.1 cannot root unless someone update hboot first.
I would make a small request if it's really kick-off can someone make a video/link (like xda-ians post in SGS) how to root using hboot step-by-step.
Thank you,
imkr said:
I would make a small request if it's really kick-off can someone make a video/link (like xda-ians post in SGS) how to root using hboot step-by-step.
Thank you,
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There is a step by step detailed guide here which is more than sufficient:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Obviously, it doesnt work for 2.2.1.
3xeno said:
There is a step by step detailed guide here which is more than sufficient:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Obviously, it doesnt work for 2.2.1.
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Yes...I've read from that link as well. but can I have a link of root video? since I google in youtube just part not full...
.. perhaps it IS better if it remains locked ?
n!k said:
.. perhaps it IS better if it remains locked ?
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Why? We are not saying that when rooting is available, all people must root their phones. There are lots of people now (like me) who updated or bought the phone with 2.2.1 and now we can't root, and I really want to root again to be free to modify some things or overclock, AND CHANGE ROM.
So, there is no reason for what it should stay unrootable.
antonio1475 said:
Why? We are not saying that when rooting is available, all people must root their phones. There are lots of people now (like me) who updated or bought the phone with 2.2.1 and now we can't root, and I really want to root again to be free to modify some things or overclock, AND CHANGE ROM.
So, there is no reason for what it whould stay unrootable.
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100% agreed,
If you upgraded, without caring about the risks, you deserve it. If you bought the phone with 2.2 already installed, you are not to be blamed.
It's just the fact that people that blindly tapped on"update" and then come here to ***** and whine are driving me mad.
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Alex_GP said:
If you upgraded, without caring about the risks, you deserve it. If you bought the phone with 2.2 already installed, you are not to be blamed.
It's just the fact that people that blindly tapped on"update" and then come here to ***** and whine are driving me mad.
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Why would I/We "deserve" it? Who are you to judge us that way? There are a lot of reasons for what the upgrade was done, and none of them was doing it to then disturb about rooting. I know there are LOTS of people asking without stop, but for example I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update, and just replying to help people.
What you said is a closed-mind opinion... You can't even think another way that yours, and that's sad...
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... I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update...
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Same here I must check those sites at least 3-5 times daily.
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Why would I/We "deserve" it? Who are you to judge us that way? There are a lot of reasons for what the upgrade was done, and none of them was doing it to then disturb about rooting. I know there are LOTS of people asking without stop, but for example I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update, and just replying to help people.
What you said is a closed-mind opinion... You can't even think another way that yours, and that's sad...
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You may call me closed minded, it`s your call, but, I think that people need to learn to live with their decisions.
I`m not talking about you (but if you feel targeted, it`s not my problem), but If you don`t think before you act, you need to pay the price. Think of it this way:
Someone gives you a gun, and tells you that you can shoot anyone you want. You take the gun and shoot some people, but the police catches you. You`ll say "but that man told me I could shoot people with my gun, he`s to blame". NO! you are to be blamed, you decided to shoot those people.
Same thing with the 2.2.1 update. HTC gave you the update, but they did not make you install it. YOU installed it! It`s your choice. Consequences? You can`t root (for now). Don`t come around and whine about not being able to root.
The update was leaked 2-3 days before the official release. In all the topics, people said: "don`t flash it, it will kill/make you unable to root", but it was hopeless.
When and update announcement popped up on your phone, what did you do? Did you think"oooooh, it has an OK button, so I bet I must push it!" or did you think "Now, let`s do a little google search, see what is this update all about?"
If you answered the second one, good thing, you`re normal. If you answered the first....... I`m not gonna comment, because you will say that I`m a mean, close-minded man.
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You may call me closed minded, it`s your call, but, I think that people need to learn to live with their decisions.
I`m not talking about you (but if you feel targeted, it`s not my problem), but If you don`t think before you act, you need to pay the price. Think of it this way:
Someone gives you a gun, and tells you that you can shoot anyone you want. You take the gun and shoot some people, but the police catches you. You`ll say "but that man told me I could shoot people with my gun, he`s to blame". NO! you are to be blamed, you decided to shoot those people.
Same thing with the 2.2.1 update. HTC gave you the update, but they did not make you install it. YOU installed it! It`s your choice. Consequences? You can`t root (for now). Don`t come around and whine about not being able to root.
The update was leaked 2-3 days before the official release. In all the topics, people said: "don`t flash it, it will kill/make you unable to root", but it was hopeless.
When and update announcement popped up on your phone, what did you do? Did you think"oooooh, it has an OK button, so I bet I must push it!" or did you think "Now, let`s do a little google search, see what is this update all about?"
If you answered the second one, good thing, you`re normal. If you answered the first....... I`m not gonna comment, because you will say that I`m a mean, close-minded man.
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First of all, I'm sorry, I didn't really mean to offend. I was saying that you might get in my/our situation or position. The exact reason for what I flashed the 2.2.1 was because I wanted the stability of a complete official ROM to flash the OC kernel. At least to have something stable for sure and then try some new ROMs.
That's my exact case, and each person will have their reasons.
And for the record, I didn't see ANY message about "don't upgrade". You are more "senior member" if you want to say, but I'm not stupid. Could you just accept I made a mistake, as we all do? And now I am quietly waiting for unrevoked bringing the solution, without yelling "unrevoked please/go go go/ **** no unrevoked yet/ etc..."
As I always try to, smile
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.
I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.
VaKo said:
I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.
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True, that's unappealing...just when it's perfect you have to wipe and then you have to set it up again. I used to worry more about that but now that I've had to set-up again about 5 or 6 times I've become a master at doing it quickly and better than before. I totally love having root...wouldn't do it any other way.
I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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chbennett said:
I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
Charlie_Don't_Surf said:
I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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undervolting each freq by 125mV is way to good to pass up
no way would I ever use stock
It's just not the right time. I wait until a "real" custom rom comes out.
What for? I can use my SD card if I need to. Which I don't. Got 3.2 a couple of days ago. If I want to play with roms and overclocking I have my phone rooted. But for now I don't need it.
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Really?
crisisinthecity said:
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.
KerryG said:
How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.
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Good point. Any more reasons?
newskate9 said:
For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.
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It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.
I Agree
I cannot imagine using any of my android devices without at least su file capabilities
crisisinthecity said:
It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.
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Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.
Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.
Cielmerlion said:
Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.
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This is great because it says that people love the Xoom right out of the box, or fresh from the stock update.
As I said, having experienced both, I will choose the ability to truly customize to my hearts content. But for those who are happy with plain vanilla, enjoy!
chbennett said:
I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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+1 I have no reason to root.
the speed, battery life, etc. etc. are all fine for what I use it for - nothing heavy - just a replacement for browsing the web and a few games like angry birds
Charlie_Don't_Surf said:
I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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there's no real custom roms out that give you any benefit to flashing a new rom, and I am on 3.2 - not even put an sdcard in the xoom yet.
all movies/tv shows are streamed direct to TV or to Xoom via Plex, so i dont need extra space to store movies,
I only have the wifi version so i dont need space for travelling around with 3g.
the only time I may need more space and thus an sdcard would be if i go on holiday and want to take a few films on the sd - but even in a readonly state i can do that by loading films onto an sd and sticking it in now...
my only grief was that motorola were taking an aeon to push out any updates to the UK image I had on - but flashing the US fixed that and I decided I dont need to go any further down the rooting process... I'm happy - surely that's the best way to be
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Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.
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I was basically trying to get some conversations started as to why and why not to root the WiFi xoom so people on this forum understand where the other team is coming from. Thought this thread title and my choice of words would draw some good debate. And it would keep the debate here and not all over the forum.
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I get what people are saying here, if you're happy with what you've got then by all means you should stick to it. No-one should be telling you what to like.
However, I do support the OP. If you are NOT happy with what you've got but there is a fix for it, why not just apply the fix instead of complaining?
crisisinthecity said:
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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I for one am too new to Android to root my Xoom. I have a G2x phone. It has a one step Root method and a one step Recovery method. I'm ok with that. But looking at all the ABD steps and the instructions on how to make them work....I feel its too complicated for a limited return at this time.
If someone put together the Bible of rooting the Xoom, that does NOT begin with , " This assumes you have an understanding of xxx", then maybe I would...
I took the Xoom out of the box...I want to Root, do this, then this, then this. Include what needs to be installed, what to type, etc, etc.
If that sounds whiney...so what, you asked.